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Eddy Nigg  
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 More options Jan 27 2010, 12:28 pm
Newsgroups: mozilla.dev.security.policy
From: Eddy Nigg <eddy_n...@startcom.org>
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 19:28:00 +0200
Subject: Re: CNNIC Root Inclusion
On 01/27/2010 07:11 PM, Nelson Bolyard:

> On 2010-01-27 06:18 PST, Eddy Nigg wrote:

>>> Even though this is mostly a technical forum,

> It is?

Technical in the sense of policies and CA practices. It's not a
political forum...

> I've seen MANY rants in past years from people who got infected by signed
> malware.  They were under the mistaken impression that signed software is
> software that has been certified by the CA to be virus-free.  Of course,
> as we know, that's not what a code signing cert means at all.  It merely
> provides trustworthy identification of the source of the software, and
> does not attest to the quality of the software.

Sure, I think that the issues mentioned are a bit broader and haven't
much to do with code signing certificates per se. Distribution of
malware usually starts at a web site, and this is what the links below say.

>> http://safebrowsing.clients.google.com/safebrowsing/diagnostic?client...

>> http://www.siteadvisor.com/sites/cnnic.net.cn

>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_Internet_Network_Information_Cente...

> I cannot determine, from the information presented on those pages, if CNNIC
> was itself the source (the signer) of the signed software,

I nowhere seen anything about signed software, this is your (wrong)
assumption.

> I think we need to be very careful to avoid getting caught in the trap of
> thinking of certificates as attestations of morality or competence, and
> thinking of CAs as judges of morality or competence.  If we allow the role
> of CAs to become defined as being those judges, they will CERTAINLY FAIL.
> So, let's define their role as doing something at which they can succeed,
> namely attesting to binding of keys to vetted identities.

That's why I requested to have this handled at the proper channels.
Though I think a discussion specially by the affected parties might be
interesting to have in order to understand more about it. And obviously
there might be members willing to voice their opinion what should be done...

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