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Ian Hickson  
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 More options Feb 18 2009, 6:44 pm
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From: Ian Hickson <i...@hixie.ch>
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 23:44:14 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Wed, Feb 18 2009 6:44 pm
Subject: Re: An alternate take on HTML5
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On Wed, 18 Feb 2009, sayrer wrote:

> On Feb 18, 5:50 am, Henri Sivonen <hsivo...@iki.fi> wrote:

> > I have trouble deciding what I think without knowing what the purpose
> > of your document is. What's the goal you are trying to achieve and
> > why?

> To publish a document with well defined error handling and a very select
> few new features, quickly.

I think this is a laudable goal, if executed fully. (My concern is that we
should not leave features define in the spec under-defined, otherwise
what's the point -- after all, HTML4 already does a fine job of being an
incomplete specification!)

On Wed, 18 Feb 2009, rubys wrote:

> The current W3C plan (<http://www.w3.org/html/wg/>) is: 2009-06 HTML5
> Candidate Recommendation

The W3C timetable was unrealistic when it was conceived (and I said as
much at the time). The W3C is not well-known for its ability to write
plausible timetables; often the first milestone in a charter is missed
before the charter has itself been approved! For what it's worth I have
been working to this timetable:

   http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/TIMETABLE

Features have been and will continue to be pruned; that is an essential
part of any standardisation process. Features have also been staged; just
look in the source of the HTML5 spec for the string "v2" for laundry lists
of features that have been pushed off to HTML6 or later.

On Thu, 19 Feb 2009, Robert O'Callahan wrote:

> > Another is to stage features across multiple releases.

> This last one, but calling the releases "HTML 4.x", wouldn't bother me.

I would be a fan of having an "HTML4.1" draft which is "HTML4 done right",
maybe with a few additional features like <canvas>. This would be the
equivalent of CSS 2.1, which was "CSS2 done right", with a few additional
features (like the color 'orange').

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