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 More options Feb 19 2009, 8:30 am
Newsgroups: mozilla.dev.platform
From: rubys <ru...@intertwingly.net>
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 05:30:07 -0800 (PST)
Local: Thurs, Feb 19 2009 8:30 am
Subject: Re: An alternate take on HTML5
On Feb 18, 9:02 pm, Ian Hickson <i...@hixie.ch> wrote:

> On Wed, 18 Feb 2009, rubys wrote:
> > On Feb 18, 8:06 pm, Ian Hickson <i...@hixie.ch> wrote:

> > > I entirely agree with this. You'll note that HTML5 has been exactly on
> > > track to the published timetable ever since we had a timetable.

> > Question: what is the published timetable for test cases being complete?

> The URI I cited earlier in this thread, namely the aforementioned
> published timetable, details the timetable for the test suite also:

>    http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/TIMETABLE

> (It has to, since without a complete test suite the spec can't exit CR.)

You've made amazing progress to date, and I very much want you to
continue.  However from my perspective you have done so by cutting a
number of big corners: including the need to establish and maintain
consensus, and the need to create test suites up front.

Frankly, the first corner I mentioned will bite you in the ass when we
get to the very next milestone.  I haven't reviewed the list of things
that Rob has cut from your draft to produce his draft, but I'm
confident that a number of them are things over which consensus has
not been reached.  In fact, many of them appear to be outside of the
scope of the W3C Working Group.  Could the charter of the working
group be changed and consensus be reached on any one of those items?
Quite possibly.  Could this be done simultaneously for each and every
one of the items and on the schedule you have defined?  Not a chance.

Rob's bar which I will characterize as "no worse than HTML4 and
significantly better in a select few ways" is the way forward, IMHO.
That being said, I do *not* believe that work on your draft should
slow down one bit.  You are blazing a trail, and everybody would like
you to continue to do so.  All we need to make sure that is that
others with more near term focuses do things which are largely
consistent and absolutely do not preclude the direction you are
taking.

- Sam Ruby


 
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