STR Needed Keyword?

[Anthony Hughes]

(CCing dev-quality to reach a broader audience -- please direct responses to dev-platform)

It has come to my attention that we lack a keyword in Bugzilla for when steps-to-reproduce are needed (a very common request). However, we do have keywords for when a testcase, regression range, or URLs are wanted. I find it to be extremely useful when someone requesting qawanted pairs it with a keyword indicating what is being requested. It's certainly more efficient then having to parse the comments to interpret the request.

Assuming support for such a keyword here are some proposed names:
* steps-wanted
* str-wanted
* needSTR
* need-steps

Would people find this keyword useful? If so, I can file a bug to get it added.

Thanks

Anthony Hughes
Quality Engineer
Mozilla Corporation

[Ralph Giles]

I think this would be useful, and improves workflow clarity along the
lines of dbaron's blog post yesterday.

> * steps-wanted

This is the most obvious of the options you gave.

-r

[Anthony Hughes]

For those interested, I've gone ahead and filed a bug to get the keyword
added:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=785519

Thanks to everyone who provided feedback.

--
Anthony Hughes
Quality Engineer
Mozilla QA (Desktop)

[Andre Klapper]

On Thu, 2012-08-16 at 18:01 -0700, Anthony Hughes wrote:
> It has come to my attention that we lack a keyword in Bugzilla for
> when steps-to-reproduce are needed (a very common request). However,
> we do have keywords for when a testcase, regression range, or URLs are
> wanted. I find it to be extremely useful when someone requesting
> qawanted pairs it with a keyword indicating what is being requested.
> It's certainly more efficient then having to parse the comments to
> interpret the request.
>
> Assuming support for such a keyword here are some proposed names:
> * steps-wanted
> * str-wanted
> * needSTR
> * need-steps
>
> Would people find this keyword useful? If so, I can file a bug to get it added.

This might be off-topic, but looking at keywords in general I see
* regressionwindow-wanted
* stackwanted
* needURLs (used once so far, maybe pretty new?)
(all of them describing $something *missing*, without a counterpart to
signal that $something is available), but also

* crashreportid
(describing $something *available*, without a counterpart to mark that
that $something is missing).

Are there specific reasons in teams' workflows that only either missing
or available $information can be queried for, and that the counterpart
is not needed to be queried for?

Also, all in the first category seem to be subcases of "need more info
from somebody", hence it might be worth considering a NEEDINFO status?
That would be https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=478467 and
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=778731 .

andre
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[Robert Kaiser]

Andre Klapper schrieb:

> * needURLs (used once so far, maybe pretty new?)

We're removed that one from the bug when we paste in URLs from crash
stats, so that's why it's always only on very few or no bugs.

> * crashreportid

I wonder why we have that at all, never saw it actually being used - and
I work in the stability group.

Robert Kaiser

[Joe Drew]

On 2012-08-27 7:03 PM, Andre Klapper wrote:
> * needURLs (used once so far, maybe pretty new?)

Used all the time - it's just removed after the URLs are provided. :)

[Andre Klapper]

Hmm. According to
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?field0-0-0=keywords;query_format=advanced;type0-0-0=changedfrom;value0-0-0=needURLs
the keyword has been removed from 59 reports so far, so judgement what
"all the time" means is probably subjective. :)

andre
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[Kevin Brosnan]

On Tue 28 Aug 2012 08:37:44 AM PDT, Andre Klapper wrote:
> On Tue, 2012-08-28 at 11:28 -0400, Joe Drew wrote:
>> On 2012-08-27 7:03 PM, Andre Klapper wrote:
>>> * needURLs (used once so far, maybe pretty new?)
>>
>> Used all the time - it's just removed after the URLs are provided. :)
>
> Hmm. According to
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?field0-0-0=keywords;query_format=advanced;type0-0-0=changedfrom;value0-0-0=needURLs
> the keyword has been removed from 59 reports so far, so judgement what
> "all the time" means is probably subjective. :)
>
> andre

It only applies to crash reports that cannot be moved along by other
means. It is needed because access to the url that a crash report gave
is very limited.

Kevin