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Ian Hickson  
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 More options Feb 18 2009, 8:06 pm
Newsgroups: mozilla.dev.platform
From: Ian Hickson <i...@hixie.ch>
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 01:06:03 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Wed, Feb 18 2009 8:06 pm
Subject: Re: An alternate take on HTML5

On Wed, 18 Feb 2009, sayrer wrote:
> On Feb 18, 6:44 pm, Ian Hickson <i...@hixie.ch> wrote:
> > On Wed, 18 Feb 2009, sayrer wrote:

> > > To publish a document with well defined error handling and a very
> > > select few new features, quickly.

> > I think this is a laudable goal, if executed fully. (My concern is
> > that we should not leave features define in the spec under-defined,
> > otherwise what's the point -- after all, HTML4 already does a fine job
> > of being an incomplete specification!)

> This statement seems to imply that improving the specification is an
> all-or-nothing proposition when it comes to existing features. I do not
> agree. To use a specific example, I don't plan on including a
> "Rendering" section, as HTML5 does. I think getting consensus on the
> Rendering section is an effort that matches the time scale you have
> outlined for HTML5.

Since the section is non-normative, I actually expect consensus on that
section to be the least of the troubles in HTML5.

> I recognize you might not agree, and I expect "getting consensus" is
> more important to me than to you.

But you don't have consensus on not having the rendering section...

> In other words, I would rather deliver an incomplete deliverable on
> time, than a complete one very late.

I entirely agree with this. You'll note that HTML5 has been exactly on
track to the published timetable ever since we had a timetable.

I guess I don't really see the point of doing something quickly if it
leaves things underdefined -- underdefined (as opposed to omitted
entirely) seems far worse than slow.

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