Deprecation of Standalone Talos

[Jeff Hammel]

We in Automation and Testing would like to deprecate Standalone Talos:

- https://wiki.mozilla.org/Buildbot/Talos#Running_locally_-_Standalone_Talos
- https://wiki.mozilla.org/StandaloneTalos
- https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=714659

StandaloneTalos hasn't been updated in almost a year. In the last two
quarters, :jmaher, myself, and several very helpful contributors have
make great progress to making canonical talos
(http://hg.mozilla.org/build/talos) much easier to install and use.

The two most important, IMHO:
- it now has a setup.py script that will install the dependencies
- pageloader is now bundled in talos

There are many other nits that have not yet been fixed, but we are
rapidly developing it.

This should make it as easy to use if not easier than StandaloneTalos
is. No one has been maintaining StandaloneTalos and we'd like to
eliminate it and encourage users to use canonical Talos.

Does anyone have any issues or questions with this? I'm happy to debunk
myths that StandaloneTalos is doing anything useful. If there is any
issue that StandaloneTalos fixes that is not currently covered in
canonical Talos, I'd love to know about them and fix them in the
canonical source.

Thanks!

Jeff Hammel

[Marco Bonardo]

On 23/02/2012 19:44, Jeff Hammel wrote:
> This should make it as easy to use if not easier than StandaloneTalos
> is. No one has been maintaining StandaloneTalos and we'd like to
> eliminate it and encourage users to use canonical Talos.
>
> Does anyone have any issues or questions with this?

I think what we need is just a decent documentation on how to setup and
use the new Talos locally. Does it exist already?
I can't think of anything else, if I can setup and run Talos locally one
way or another one. I just need to know how to do it.
-m

[Jeff Hammel]

On 02/23/2012 10:57 AM, Marco Bonardo wrote:
> On 23/02/2012 19:44, Jeff Hammel wrote:
>> This should make it as easy to use if not easier than StandaloneTalos
>> is. No one has been maintaining StandaloneTalos and we'd like to
>> eliminate it and encourage users to use canonical Talos.
>>
>> Does anyone have any issues or questions with this?
>
> I think what we need is just a decent documentation on how to setup
> and use the new Talos locally. Does it exist already?

Yep: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Buildbot/Talos#Running_locally_-_Source_Code

Let me know if these are adequate.

[Marco Bonardo]

It's not that the old documentation on standalone talos was exactly
shiny :) So yes, this looks sufficient to start. I'm pretty sure
questions will come as soon as people will start using it and the
documentation will improve.
Could we link these new instructions from the old StandaloneTalos pages
so people looking for it are properly forwarded to the new one?

-m