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Mike Connor  
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 More options May 12 2006, 1:28 am
Newsgroups: mozilla.dev.planning
From: Mike Connor <mcon...@mozilla.com>
Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 01:28:24 -0400
Local: Fri, May 12 2006 1:28 am
Subject: Bon Echo Alpha 3 Timeline
Hey all,

As was mentioned in passing in a couple of places, we are adding a  
third alpha to pick up a few things that missed the A2 cutoff.  Most  
notable/important are the new SafeBrowsing feature and DOMStorage.  
This is going to a _very_ short cycle, aiming at a ship date of May  
25th. (Yes, that's two weeks from now, and yes, this should be very  
hittable.)   We need to mitigate risk wherever possible in order to  
stay on schedule, so we would like module owners to be very  
conservative about approving branch patches in the next two weeks.

Key dates for this cycle:

Friday,   May 12th: Alpha 2 released, MOZILLA_1_8_BRANCH re-opens for  
business
Tuesday,  May 16th: Deadline for landing ECC cipher support
Thursday, May 18th: Deadline for landing SafeBrowsing (will land on a  
closed tree)
Monday,   May 22nd: Deadline for landing DOMStorage (will land on a  
closed tree)
Tuesday,  May 23rd: Branch enters lockdown for Alpha 3 at 11:59pm PDT
Thursday, May 25th: Hard freeze at noon PDT for respins as need, QA  
will do full smoketest runs
Friday, May 26th: Alpha 3 ships

Additional patches that need to be considered:

bryner's JS component fastload
session restore refactoring
<insert suggestions here>

Please follow up to dev.planning with any comments/discussion.

-- Mike


 
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supernov...@gmail.com  
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 More options May 12 2006, 8:27 am
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From: supernov...@gmail.com
Date: 12 May 2006 05:27:15 -0700
Local: Fri, May 12 2006 8:27 am
Subject: Re: Bon Echo Alpha 3 Timeline
How about tab overflow and undo closed tab?

 
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Mike Connor  
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 More options May 12 2006, 10:20 am
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From: Mike Connor <mcon...@mozilla.com>
Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 10:20:25 -0400
Local: Fri, May 12 2006 10:20 am
Subject: Re: Bon Echo Alpha 3 Timeline

On 12-May-06, at 8:27 AM, supernov...@gmail.com wrote:

> How about tab overflow and undo closed tab?

Those are both still targeted for b1, but if they're ready in time,  
we will be opportunistic about taking those changes.  Dietrich and I,  
and a lot of others, are heading to Amsterdam for XTech tomorrow, and  
won't be spending a lot of time hacking during that time, so we are  
not going to block on those additions.

-- Mike


 
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beltzner  
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 More options May 13 2006, 1:09 pm
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From: beltzner <mbeltz...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 13:09:10 -0400
Local: Sat, May 13 2006 1:09 pm
Subject: Re: Bon Echo Alpha 3 Timeline
On 5/12/06, Mike Connor <mcon...@mozilla.com> wrote:

> Friday,   May 12th: Alpha 2 released, MOZILLA_1_8_BRANCH re-opens for
> business

So should the tree be re-opened now? Or do we want to keep it closed
as we merge back the things landed on the 1.8 branch when trunk was
closed, and *then* open it?

cheers,
mike
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kalphegor  
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 More options May 14 2006, 5:15 pm
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From: "kalphegor" <kalphe...@gmail.com>
Date: 14 May 2006 14:15:04 -0700
Local: Sun, May 14 2006 5:15 pm
Subject: Re: Bon Echo Alpha 3 Timeline
Search Suggest is nice, but what about an option to switch to Search
History (default behavior in Firefox 1.x)?
And an option in Tabs options "Show close button on each tab" enabled
by default. Disabled will show close button on the right, just like in
Firefox 1.x

 
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Kevin Brosnan  
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 More options May 15 2006, 1:10 pm
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From: "Kevin Brosnan" <kbros...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 13:10:38 -0400
Local: Mon, May 15 2006 1:10 pm
Subject: Re: Bon Echo Alpha 3 Timeline
A pref to have close buttons tabs revert to the right hand close
button has been won't fixed
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=324227 [Implement old tab
close button as a preffable option.]. I doubt your other issue will
get a pref either. There may be a search plugin that does not use the
search suggest that you can install.

Kevin Brosnan

On 14 May 2006 14:15:04 -0700, kalphegor <kalphe...@gmail.com> wrote:


 
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jsi...@gmail.com  
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 More options May 15 2006, 2:52 pm
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From: jsi...@gmail.com
Date: 15 May 2006 11:52:44 -0700
Local: Mon, May 15 2006 2:52 pm
Subject: Re: Bon Echo Alpha 3 Timeline
I really hope that's not true, as I'm not fond of the "Suggest" thing
at all. :)

 
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Robert Marshall  
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 More options May 15 2006, 4:41 pm
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From: Robert Marshall <newsmoz...@rdmsoft.com>
Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 21:41:11 +0100
Local: Mon, May 15 2006 4:41 pm
Subject: Re: Bon Echo Alpha 3 Timeline

kalphegor wrote:
> Search Suggest is nice, but what about an option to switch to Search
> History (default behavior in Firefox 1.x)?

There's a bug filed for this, though I'd apprehensively describe it as
"not wontfixed yet".
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=337491

> And an option in Tabs options "Show close button on each tab" enabled
> by default. Disabled will show close button on the right, just like in
> Firefox 1.x

As Kevin Brosnan said, this was rejected. There was some discussion in
dev.apps.firefox about making it a pref based on feedback, but that
didn't seem to lead to anything.

Speaking of dev.apps.firefox, this probably belongs there if there's any
more discussion. :)


 
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pedrol...@gmail.com  
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 More options May 16 2006, 9:25 pm
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From: pedrol...@gmail.com
Date: 16 May 2006 18:25:41 -0700
Local: Tues, May 16 2006 9:25 pm
Subject: Re: Bon Echo Alpha 3 Timeline
Hi Mike,

I'd like to talk to someone at Mozilla and you're the right developer
to help us. Could you?

Please, I've missed Pluck Firefox Edition Sidebar. Pluck Sidebar works
very well on Internet Explorer but not on Firefox. Why?
Could you please make it work there too?
I've taken FX 1.5 out and installed Bon Echo but now no Pluck Sidebar
could be installed unfortunately.
Pluck is just fine (www.pluck.com). And you're just a developer who
could make it real.

Thanks!

Pedro
Brazil

pedrol...@gmail.com


 
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veloriu...@gmail.com  
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 More options May 27 2006, 12:25 pm
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From: veloriu...@gmail.com
Date: 27 May 2006 09:25:51 -0700
Local: Sat, May 27 2006 12:25 pm
Subject: Re: Bon Echo Alpha 3 Timeline
I agree on that one entirely.

 
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richard_pe...@yahoo.co.uk  
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 More options May 29 2006, 2:27 pm
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From: richard_pe...@yahoo.co.uk
Date: 29 May 2006 11:27:42 -0700
Local: Mon, May 29 2006 2:27 pm
Subject: Re: Bon Echo Alpha 3 Timeline
Well if we're talking extension absorbtion I would definately like to
see the stop/refresh ext made official. It melds together the stop and
refresh buttons to give the same functionality but with one button.

Samuel, UK


 
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Robert Accettura  
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 More options May 29 2006, 3:50 pm
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From: Robert Accettura <rob...@accettura.com>
Date: Mon, 29 May 2006 15:50:01 -0400
Local: Mon, May 29 2006 3:50 pm
Subject: Re: Bon Echo Alpha 3 Timeline

richard_pe...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
> Well if we're talking extension absorbtion I would definately like to
> see the stop/refresh ext made official. It melds together the stop and
> refresh buttons to give the same functionality but with one button.

As I recall the plan is to do that, as part of the UI overhaul.

-R

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Adam Kowalczyk  
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 More options May 29 2006, 8:18 pm
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From: Adam Kowalczyk <ances...@o2.pl>
Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 02:18:04 +0200
Local: Mon, May 29 2006 8:18 pm
Subject: Re: Bon Echo Alpha 3 Timeline

Robert Accettura wrote:
> richard_pe...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
>> Well if we're talking extension absorbtion I would definately like to
>> see the stop/refresh ext made official. It melds together the stop and
>> refresh buttons to give the same functionality but with one button.
> As I recall the plan is to do that, as part of the UI overhaul.

> -R

Not exactly. As far as I can recall, it was decided that, if anything, a
Go/Refresh would be a better option.

- Adam


 
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 More options May 30 2006, 7:08 am
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From: dolphinling <li...@dolphinling.net>
Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 07:08:46 -0400
Local: Tues, May 30 2006 7:08 am
Subject: Re: Bon Echo Alpha 3 Timeline

Adam Kowalczyk wrote:
> Robert Accettura wrote:
>> richard_pe...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
>>> Well if we're talking extension absorbtion I would definately like to
>>> see the stop/refresh ext made official. It melds together the stop and
>>> refresh buttons to give the same functionality but with one button.
>> As I recall the plan is to do that, as part of the UI overhaul.

>> -R

> Not exactly. As far as I can recall, it was decided that, if anything, a
> Go/Refresh would be a better option.

> - Adam

Do you have a link? I'd like to look into that, because I think there
could be improvement in that area, but if that's the only change being
made it'll be annoying to me as I use the two for different purposes.

 
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