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cecilca

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Oct 11, 2009, 7:34:00 AM10/11/09
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Imposible ,descarcargar,a pesar de la agilidad,del servidor vuestro.ACCESO DENEGADO! Si Es quien sea! Protesto! Muy energicamente! Pues si es Cuba,No debe SER,se esta violando un derecho,solicito :Vuestra amable comprensiòn,y si es aqui en La Habana ,Cuba llamo a las partes a respetar los codigos ,Libres! Mas que Mozilla es el mejor navegador! De Internet! Ademas solicito a Google Grups,su comprensiòn.Ya no se que voy a hacer. Pienso que hay parte de errores mios,como mios los asumo!Pero los que no son mios! Los señalo .con.... y,,,.Codigo abierto.Internet es un derecho.Dr. juan cesar martinez serrano.'.

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Michael Kohler

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Oct 11, 2009, 1:06:54 PM10/11/09
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On 10/11/2009 01:34 PM, cecilca wrote:
> Imposible ,descarcargar,a pesar de la agilidad,del servidor vuestro.ACCESO DENEGADO! Si Es quien sea! Protesto! Muy energicamente! Pues si es Cuba,No debe SER,se esta violando un derecho,solicito :Vuestra amable comprensi�n,y si es aqui en La Habana ,Cuba llamo a las partes a respetar los codigos ,Libres! Mas que Mozilla es el mejor navegador! De Internet! Ademas solicito a Google Grups,su comprensi�n.Ya no se que voy a hacer. Pienso que hay parte de errores mios,como mios los asumo!Pero los que no son mios! Los se�alo .con.... y,,,.Codigo abierto.Internet es un derecho.Dr. juan cesar martinez serrano.'.

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This means in English (used Google Translate so it's not *that* good..


"Impossible descarcargar, despite the flexibility, the server
vuestro.ACCESO DENIED! If anyone is! Objection! Very energetic! Well, if
Cuba should not be, it is violating a right, I ask: Your kind
understanding, and if here in Havana, Cuba called on the parties to
respect the codes, Free! But that is the best browser Mozilla! Internet!
You call on Google Grups his comprensi�n.Ya not that I do. I think there
is some error of mine, and mine's assume! But those are not mine! Point
to them. With .... and,,,. abierto.Internet Code is a derecho.Dr. cesar
martinez juan serrano. '.

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Boris Zbarsky

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Oct 11, 2009, 11:04:41 PM10/11/09
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On 10/11/09 7:34 AM, cecilca wrote:
> Imposible ,descarcargar,a pesar de la agilidad,del servidor
> vuestro.ACCESO DENEGADO! Si Es quien sea! Protesto! Muy
> energicamente! Pues si es Cuba,No debe SER,se esta violando un
> derecho,solicito :Vuestra amable comprensi�n,y si es aqui en La

> Habana ,Cuba llamo a las partes a respetar los codigos ,Libres! Mas
> que Mozilla es el mejor navegador! De Internet! Ademas solicito a
> Google Grups,su comprensi�n.Ya no se que voy a hacer. Pienso que hay

> parte de errores mios,como mios los asumo!Pero los que no son mios!
> Los se�alo .con.... y,,,.Codigo abierto.Internet es un derecho.Dr.

> juan cesar martinez serrano.'.
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> compromiso de usar el servicio a tales fines y cumplir con las
> regulaciones establecidas
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Another attempt to translate the gist of this. The fact that the
original has typos and poor grammar and punctuation really does in
machine translation, hence all the non-English and various nonsense in
Michael's attempt. Not that the sense is this much stronger this way,
imo, past the first two sentences, but don't blame that on the
translator.... ;)

"Impossible to download from your server. ACCESS DENIED! I protest!
Very strongly! It's as if Cuba should not be. It's a violation of a
right. I ask for your kind understanding, and yes here in Havana, Cuba
I call on the parties to respect open source(?). Because Mozilla is the
best browser! Of the Internet! I also ask on Google Groups for your
understanding. Now I don't know what I'm going to do. I think that
maybe this is partly my mistake. But those that aren't mine! Point to
them! And..... Open source. The internet is a right.

Dr. Cesar Martinez Juan Serrano

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Alexander Limi

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Oct 12, 2009, 1:43:59 PM10/12/09
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On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 8:04 PM, Boris Zbarsky <bzba...@mit.edu> wrote:

> Another attempt to translate the gist of this. The fact that the original
> has typos and poor grammar and punctuation really does in machine
> translation, hence all the non-English and various nonsense in Michael's
> attempt. Not that the sense is this much stronger this way, imo, past the
> first two sentences, but don't blame that on the translator.... ;)
>
> "Impossible to download from your server. ACCESS DENIED! I protest! Very
> strongly! It's as if Cuba should not be. It's a violation of a right. I
> ask for your kind understanding, and yes here in Havana, Cuba I call on the
> parties to respect open source(?). Because Mozilla is the best browser! Of
> the Internet! I also ask on Google Groups for your understanding. Now I
> don't know what I'm going to do. I think that maybe this is partly my
> mistake. But those that aren't mine! Point to them! And..... Open
> source. The internet is a right.
>

We had an issue with this in the Plone project. We used to host with Google
Code, and they are subject to US export restrictions, so people in Cuba
couldn't download our files. We ended up moving to Launchpad (hosted in
Europe) so things could be downloaded.

Does anyone know whether code that currently ships in Firefox (SSL, AES,
etc) are actually subject to cryptographic restrictions? If not, it would
make sense to at least redirect downloads coming from these areas to the
European servers.

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belt...@mozilla.com

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Oct 12, 2009, 1:50:46 PM10/12/09
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It is my understanding that they are no longer subject to export
restrictions.

cheers,
mike

On 2009-10-12, at 13:44, Alexander Limi <li...@mozilla.com> wrote:

> On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 8:04 PM, Boris Zbarsky <bzba...@mit.edu>
> wrote:
>
>> Another attempt to translate the gist of this. The fact that the
>> original
>> has typos and poor grammar and punctuation really does in machine
>> translation, hence all the non-English and various nonsense in
>> Michael's
>> attempt. Not that the sense is this much stronger this way, imo,
>> past the
>> first two sentences, but don't blame that on the translator.... ;)
>>
>> "Impossible to download from your server. ACCESS DENIED! I
>> protest! Very
>> strongly! It's as if Cuba should not be. It's a violation of a
>> right. I
>> ask for your kind understanding, and yes here in Havana, Cuba I
>> call on the
>> parties to respect open source(?). Because Mozilla is the best
>> browser! Of
>> the Internet! I also ask on Google Groups for your understanding.
>> Now I
>> don't know what I'm going to do. I think that maybe this is partly
>> my
>> mistake. But those that aren't mine! Point to them! And..... Open
>> source. The internet is a right.
>>
>
> We had an issue with this in the Plone project. We used to host with
> Google
> Code, and they are subject to US export restrictions, so people in
> Cuba
> couldn't download our files. We ended up moving to Launchpad (hosted
> in
> Europe) so things could be downloaded.
>
> Does anyone know whether code that currently ships in Firefox (SSL,
> AES,
> etc) are actually subject to cryptographic restrictions? If not, it
> would
> make sense to at least redirect downloads coming from these areas to
> the
> European servers.
>
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