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Schrep  
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(1 user)  More options Jul 25 2007, 2:55 pm
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From: Schrep <mtsch...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 18:55:12 -0000
Local: Wed, Jul 25 2007 2:55 pm
Subject: Planning for Alpha 7 Freeze Tonight 23:59 PDT
Hey Folks,

Reminder that freeze is tonight.   At the Gecko meeting today the
following large changes yet to land were identified:

1) URLClassifier (DCamp)
2) doc.all changes (Sicking)
3) x-site XMLHttpRequest (Sicking)
4) ShowModalDialog (JST)
5) cross origin wrappers (Bkap/Brendan)
6) xml:id
7) oncopy/onpaste (JST)
8) xpath generator (Sicking)

We'd like to do landing slots for these (in the above order) so we
don't have a last-minute dash to the freeze.  Each of the above
changes should land separately from the other (e.g. with a full tbox
cycle between them).   Other smaller changes are still clear to land
up to the freeze tonight.  After the freeze we'll continue landing
these big changes.   So:

a) Can the above named folks coordinate their landings appropriately?
b) If you have a big change can you make sure to get on this list?
c) We are gecko feature frozen as of tonight - so if you have a
feature or any change that is exposed to content you should either get
on this list or defer to 1.9.1 or moz2.

Reply here if you have any thoughts or questions.

Best,

Schrep


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smaug  
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 More options Jul 25 2007, 8:54 pm
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From: smaug <sm...@welho.com>
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 03:54:18 +0300
Local: Wed, Jul 25 2007 8:54 pm
Subject: Re: Planning for Alpha 7 Freeze Tonight 23:59 PDT
Because I'm in EET (UTC+2), I could land xml:id early afternoon
tomorrow when it is night or very early morning in PDT.
...hoping ofc that tinderbox is green then, especially all perfboxes.

-Olli


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T Rowley  
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 More options Jul 25 2007, 8:58 pm
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From: T Rowley <t...@acm.org>
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 19:58:46 -0500
Local: Wed, Jul 25 2007 8:58 pm
Subject: Re: Planning for Alpha 7 Freeze Tonight 23:59 PDT
On 7/25/07 1:55 PM, Schrep wrote:

> b) If you have a big change can you make sure to get on this list?

I have SVG lighting filters ready to land, so would like to get on the list.

> c) We are gecko feature frozen as of tonight - so if you have a
> feature or any change that is exposed to content you should either get
> on this list or defer to 1.9.1 or moz2.

We have a number of SVG feature items which will be ready in the 1.9
timeframe:

* SVG tile filter
* SVG displacement filter
* SVG image filter
* SVG text character positioning
* SVG fonts


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Michael V.  
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 More options Jul 25 2007, 9:07 pm
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From: "Michael V." <m.vent...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 18:07:22 -0700
Local: Wed, Jul 25 2007 9:07 pm
Subject: Re: Planning for Alpha 7 Freeze Tonight 23:59 PDT
Full zoom (bug 4821) and submitting forms in new tabs (bug 17754) have
patches that I think should be considered for 1.9.

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Schrep  
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 More options Jul 25 2007, 9:55 pm
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From: Schrep <mtsch...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 01:55:02 -0000
Local: Wed, Jul 25 2007 9:55 pm
Subject: Re: Planning for Alpha 7 Freeze Tonight 23:59 PDT
On Jul 25, 5:58 pm, T Rowley <t...@acm.org> wrote:

> On 7/25/07 1:55 PM, Schrep wrote:

> > b) If you have a big change can you make sure to get on this list?

> I have SVG lighting filters ready to land, so would like to get on the list.

k  That's probably well contained so go ahead and land that.

> > c) We are gecko feature frozen as of tonight - so if you have a
> > feature or any change that is exposed to content you should either get
> > on this list or defer to 1.9.1 or moz2.

> We have a number of SVG feature items which will be ready in the 1.9
> timeframe:

> * SVG tile filter
> * SVG displacement filter
> * SVG image filter
> * SVG text character positioning
> * SVG fonts

Do you mean will be ready after today?  Today is the cutoff for this
kind of stuff....

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Schrep  
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 More options Jul 25 2007, 9:57 pm
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From: Schrep <mtsch...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 01:57:27 -0000
Local: Wed, Jul 25 2007 9:57 pm
Subject: Re: Planning for Alpha 7 Freeze Tonight 23:59 PDT
On Jul 25, 5:54 pm, smaug <sm...@welho.com> wrote:

How about early AM PDT assuming the dust has settled?

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Schrep  
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 More options Jul 25 2007, 9:58 pm
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From: Schrep <mtsch...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 01:58:44 -0000
Local: Wed, Jul 25 2007 9:58 pm
Subject: Re: Planning for Alpha 7 Freeze Tonight 23:59 PDT
On Jul 25, 6:07 pm, "Michael V." <m.vent...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Full zoom (bug 4821) and submitting forms in new tabs (bug 17754) have
> patches that I think should be considered for 1.9.

Bug 4821 you bet.  We need to whip up some UI for that as well :-)

Bug 17754 doesn't look ready to go (waiting on reviews)...


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Boris Zbarsky  
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 More options Jul 25 2007, 10:15 pm
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From: Boris Zbarsky <bzbar...@mit.edu>
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 21:15:52 -0500
Local: Wed, Jul 25 2007 10:15 pm
Subject: Re: Planning for Alpha 7 Freeze Tonight 23:59 PDT

Schrep wrote:
> Bug 17754 doesn't look ready to go (waiting on reviews)...

For what it's worth, this is a fairly self-contained change, that doesn't affect
web sites unless users make use of this functionality.  Depending on what the
reviewers think, and depending on how usable it is, we should consider approving
it in the next beta.

-Boris


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Blake Kaplan  
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 More options Jul 26 2007, 12:23 am
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From: Blake Kaplan <mrb...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 00:23:20 -0400
Local: Thurs, Jul 26 2007 12:23 am
Subject: Re: Planning for Alpha 7 Freeze Tonight 23:59 PDT

Schrep wrote:
> 5) cross origin wrappers (Bkap/Brendan)

I figure that I'll pop on IRC tomorrow and find a timeslot based on
that. It'll probably be around 12:00pm EST.
--
Blake Kaplan

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T Rowley  
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 More options Jul 26 2007, 1:48 am
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From: T Rowley <t...@acm.org>
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 00:48:26 -0500
Local: Thurs, Jul 26 2007 1:48 am
Subject: Re: Planning for Alpha 7 Freeze Tonight 23:59 PDT
On 7/25/07 8:55 PM, Schrep wrote:

> On Jul 25, 5:58 pm, T Rowley <t...@acm.org> wrote:
>> On 7/25/07 1:55 PM, Schrep wrote:

>>> b) If you have a big change can you make sure to get on this list?
>> I have SVG lighting filters ready to land, so would like to get on the list.

> k  That's probably well contained so go ahead and land that.

You mean, well contained besides touching DOMClassInfo and the style
system?  I'll look for a relatively quiet time to land it tonight.

>>> c) We are gecko feature frozen as of tonight - so if you have a
>>> feature or any change that is exposed to content you should either get
>>> on this list or defer to 1.9.1 or moz2.
>> We have a number of SVG feature items which will be ready in the 1.9
>> timeframe:

>> * SVG tile filter
>> * SVG displacement filter
>> * SVG image filter
>> * SVG text character positioning
>> * SVG fonts

> Do you mean will be ready after today?  Today is the cutoff for this
> kind of stuff....

Yes, after today.  The resources for SVG are low, so things are ready
when they're ready.  The filters we want to add since it will complete
the specified SVG 1.1 filters.  SVG fonts are a frequently requested
feature, and character positioning is of particular interest to a group
who is working on implementing it.

Patches are in various states of completion for four of these five
items, with the exception being the relatively straightforward
displacement filter.

These changes are isolated to SVG, and given the current schedule are
still acceptable from a risk/benefit point of view by the SVG module
owner (me).


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 More options Jul 26 2007, 2:55 am
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From: Mike Connor <mcon...@mozilla.com>
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 02:55:23 -0400
Local: Thurs, Jul 26 2007 2:55 am
Subject: Re: Planning for Alpha 7 Freeze Tonight 23:59 PDT

On 26-Jul-07, at 1:48 AM, T Rowley wrote:

> These changes are isolated to SVG, and given the current schedule are
> still acceptable from a risk/benefit point of view by the SVG module
> owner (me).

While I respect your opinion as a module owner, this is not likely to  
be acceptable from a schedule or driver standpoint.  We have been  
quite open and clear about feature freeze for gecko being M7  
(formerly beta 1), since at least March.  This in the newsgroups, the  
wiki schedule, and the weekly Gecko 1.9 meetings.  Past M7, all  
checkins for 1.9 to Gecko will require driver approval, and while in  
past releases we have made exceptions to feature freezes for SVG, I  
do not believe we will do so for 1.9.

Gecko 1.9 has been two years in the making, the longest cycle without  
a release off the trunk in the project's history, and eventually we  
have to close the door to new features.

-- Mike


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 More options Jul 26 2007, 5:06 am
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From: longs...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 02:06:57 -0700
Local: Thurs, Jul 26 2007 5:06 am
Subject: Re: Planning for Alpha 7 Freeze Tonight 23:59 PDT
On Jul 26, 7:55 am, Mike Connor <mcon...@mozilla.com> wrote:

The SVG tile filter that tor referred to is ready to land. Or at least
will be within the next hour or so.

Robert.


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