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Chris Ilias

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Mar 4, 2008, 7:17:29 PM3/4/08
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With www.mozilla.org being better defined and restructured, are we going
to keep the Mozilla Suite product pages[1]?

I ask because I ran across some support pages in /docs/end-user/* [2]
that (I think) should probably be gone.

[1]<http://www.mozilla.org/products/mozilla1.x/>
[2]<http://www.mozilla.org/docs/end-user/>
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Philip Chee

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Mar 4, 2008, 8:34:12 PM3/4/08
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On Tue, 04 Mar 2008 19:17:29 -0500, Chris Ilias wrote:

Suggestions:

> [1]<http://www.mozilla.org/products/mozilla1.x/>
Delete and redirect to:
<http://www.seamonkey-project.org/>

> [2]<http://www.mozilla.org/docs/end-user/>
Much of this seems still useful to SeaMonkey users. Perhaps move this
(and updating the links) to <http://www.seamonkey-project.org/> as well.

Or if there is a SeaMonkey section on SUMO (what dim-bulb came up with
that acronym anyway) you could park it there for the time being.

Phil

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davidwboswell

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Mar 5, 2008, 12:12:22 PM3/5/08
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Moving this content to the SeaMonkey site seems good to me. We're
also thinking of putting a History section on the site to link to out-
of-date but historically interesting content, so some of this content
could also be left on www.mozilla.org as part of that.

David

Chris Ilias

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Mar 5, 2008, 4:04:56 PM3/5/08
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On 3/4/08 8:34 PM, _Philip Chee_ spoke thusly:

> On Tue, 04 Mar 2008 19:17:29 -0500, Chris Ilias wrote:
>
> Suggestions:
>
>> [1]<http://www.mozilla.org/products/mozilla1.x/>
> Delete and redirect to:
> <http://www.seamonkey-project.org/>

I would rather point it to something like <http://www.mozilla.org/start/>

See <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=373065>.

>> [2]<http://www.mozilla.org/docs/end-user/>
> Much of this seems still useful to SeaMonkey users. Perhaps move this
> (and updating the links) to <http://www.seamonkey-project.org/> as well.

Pinging KaiRo. :-)

> Or if there is a SeaMonkey section on SUMO (what dim-bulb came up with
> that acronym anyway) you could park it there for the time being.

Firefox Support (The official name of the project :-) ) is Firefox-only;
but the intent is build a system that other vendors can on their own
domains.

Robert Kaiser

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Mar 5, 2008, 4:39:03 PM3/5/08
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Chris Ilias wrote:
> On 3/4/08 8:34 PM, _Philip Chee_ spoke thusly:
>> On Tue, 04 Mar 2008 19:17:29 -0500, Chris Ilias wrote:
>>> [2]<http://www.mozilla.org/docs/end-user/>
>> Much of this seems still useful to SeaMonkey users. Perhaps move this
>> (and updating the links) to <http://www.seamonkey-project.org/> as well.
>
> Pinging KaiRo. :-)

We surely would like to have that content in some way available for
SeaMonkey users, at least 1.x users, yes.

>> Or if there is a SeaMonkey section on SUMO (what dim-bulb came up with
>> that acronym anyway) you could park it there for the time being.
>
> Firefox Support (The official name of the project :-) ) is Firefox-only;
> but the intent is build a system that other vendors can on their own
> domains.

David Tenser implied on FOSDEM that he'd appreciate to have SeaMonkey
stuff on SUMO...

Robert Kaiser

Chris Ilias

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Mar 5, 2008, 10:40:11 PM3/5/08
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On 3/5/08 4:39 PM, _Robert Kaiser_ spoke thusly:

> Chris Ilias wrote:
>
>> Firefox Support (The official name of the project :-) ) is Firefox-only;
>> but the intent is build a system that other vendors can on their own
>> domains.
>
> David Tenser implied on FOSDEM that he'd appreciate to have SeaMonkey
> stuff on SUMO...


Do you mean SeaMonkey stuff on support.mozilla.com, or SeaMonkey stuff
on (your own installation of) SUMO (tikiwiki)?

If it's the former, I think should get that clarified with David.

Robert Kaiser

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Mar 6, 2008, 6:46:40 AM3/6/08
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Chris Ilias wrote:
> On 3/5/08 4:39 PM, _Robert Kaiser_ spoke thusly:
>> Chris Ilias wrote:
>>
>>> Firefox Support (The official name of the project :-) ) is Firefox-only;
>>> but the intent is build a system that other vendors can on their own
>>> domains.
>>
>> David Tenser implied on FOSDEM that he'd appreciate to have SeaMonkey
>> stuff on SUMO...
>
>
> Do you mean SeaMonkey stuff on support.mozilla.com, or SeaMonkey stuff
> on (your own installation of) SUMO (tikiwiki)?
>
> If it's the former, I think should get that clarified with David.
>

Well, if support.mozilla.com is supposed to be just Firefox, it should
be support.firefox.com or such, IMHO.
But in which way this way meant specifically, I'm not 100% sure. But if
he meant on a separate installation of tikiwiki, then what's SUMO about
it, we can set any wiki at any time for such a thing, right?

Robert Kaiser

Chris Ilias

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Mar 6, 2008, 2:12:58 PM3/6/08
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On 3/6/08 6:46 AM, _Robert Kaiser_ spoke thusly:

> Well, if support.mozilla.com is supposed to be just Firefox, it should
> be support.firefox.com or such, IMHO.

That's an issue beyond the scope of the Firefox Support project.
support.mozilla.com is a sub-domain of mozilla.com, which is the domain
of the Mozilla Corporation, which is Firefox-only (Thunderbird is moving
to mozillamessaging.com). I think I remember a blog post from Ben
Goodger about creating the Firefox Corp., but I can't find it.

> But in which way this way meant specifically, I'm not 100% sure. But if
> he meant on a separate installation of tikiwiki, then what's SUMO about
> it, we can set any wiki at any time for such a thing, right?

Yes, but we're not simply taking tikiwiki and branding it. We've got a
tikiwiki coder on contract, to help us build a system designed for
product user support.

JoeS

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Mar 7, 2008, 7:12:40 PM3/7/08
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Chris Ilias wrote:
> On 3/6/08 6:46 AM, _Robert Kaiser_ spoke thusly:
>> Well, if support.mozilla.com is supposed to be just Firefox, it should
>> be support.firefox.com or such, IMHO.
>
> That's an issue beyond the scope of the Firefox Support project.
> support.mozilla.com is a sub-domain of mozilla.com, which is the domain
> of the Mozilla Corporation, which is Firefox-only (Thunderbird is moving
> to mozillamessaging.com). I think I remember a blog post from Ben
> Goodger about creating the Firefox Corp., but I can't find it.

http://www.bengoodger.com/2007/04/the_autonomous_future.html

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