Address Book Cards: Ordering of fields
Mark Banner
(https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=160601) where someone
would like to be able to re-order the address book fields on the card
properties display for different locales.
I am happy for this to be enabled for the name and the home/work address
sections of the cards.
However the submitter also thinks that the phones and Internet (primary
/ secondary / preference / screen name) section should also be able to
be reorganized via DTD files (see in particular
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=160601#c27).
I would really like to know if localizers would want to use, or consider
using the ability to reorganize the Internet and phone number sections
of the current address book card,
If someone can give me a good reason/usage, then I'll be happy to let it
be implemented. At the moment, I think it is too much flexibility that
is highly unlikely to be used and is going to lead to bloat.
Many Thanks in advance for your comments.
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none
Phone numbers should be swappable in my opinion, in France I haven't
seen a pager since the early 90's and I believe this service just no
longer exists, most of the younger people probably don't even know what
it is. Probably the same for most if not all western europe countries.
On the other hand, there are more mobile phone lines here than
traditional wired phone lines so this field should definitely be on top
of the list while the pager one could be suppressed and nobody would notice.
Pascal
Hasse
wrote...
> I would really like to know if localizers would want to use, or consider
> using the ability to reorganize the Internet and phone number sections
> of the current address book card,
I agree with Pascal that the current order of phone numbers is not very
good. I don't know if it is because of regional differences or if the
dialog is simply outdated, but I think the mobile phone deserve a more
prominent place than the pager and the fax.
I also find it a bit odd that the work phone is first in order, I think
that a contact is more likely to have a home phone or a mobile phone
than a work phone. But the current order is perhaps more of an
accommodation to corporate customers than a regional quirk.
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Hasse
sv-SE l10n team
Ricardo Palomares Martinez
> I have been asked to review a patch on bug 160601
> (https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=160601) where someone
> would like to be able to re-order the address book fields on the card
> properties display for different locales.
> I would really like to know if localizers would want to use, or consider
> using the ability to reorganize the Internet and phone number sections
> of the current address book card,
It's true that pager is rarely used since mobile phone use got
widespread. Regarding the remaining phone fields, I think that, as
long as es-ES is concerned, it's a matter of user preferences more
than a regional issue. If I use Mozilla mainly in an office
environment, I will probably have more work and fax fields filled than
home phones, whereas in a domestic usage it will be the reverse.
As for the primary and secondary e-mail addresses and screenname, I
don't see the need to reorder them. Primary and secondary e-mail
addresses, by definition, need to be in that order, and I'd be happy
if someone could tell me the value for the screename field since
Mozilla has never shipped AOL nor any other IM product (except
ChatZilla, which as far as I'm aware, doesn't make use of that field).
Ricardo.
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Mark Banner
> As for the primary and secondary e-mail addresses and screenname, I
> don't see the need to reorder them. Primary and secondary e-mail
> addresses, by definition, need to be in that order, and I'd be happy
> if someone could tell me the value for the screename field since
> Mozilla has never shipped AOL nor any other IM product (except
> ChatZilla, which as far as I'm aware, doesn't make use of that field).
You'll find the screen name field is currently best used with AOL
instant messenger. I believe on Windows the address book hooks into the
AIM protocol and lets you start a new chat window with someone just by
selecting the card and then instant message. On Linux I've been able to
hook it into gaim using gaim-remote to do the same thing.
I'm hoping that someone might step up to do some work on expanding that
field to cope with more than one instant messaging client/protocol, but
that hasn't happened yet.
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Mark Banner
> Phone numbers should be swappable in my opinion, in France I haven't
> seen a pager since the early 90's and I believe this service just no
> longer exists, most of the younger people probably don't even know what
> it is. Probably the same for most if not all western europe countries.
> On the other hand, there are more mobile phone lines here than
> traditional wired phone lines so this field should definitely be on top
> of the list while the pager one could be suppressed and nobody would
> notice.
I can see your point. I think pagers do exist still in most countries,
just not necessarily heard of much.
I'm wondering if we re-ordered the fields within address book to
something like:
Home
Mobile
Work
Fax
Page
Would that be enough? or would people still want to be able to reorder
it for different locales.
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Mark Banner
> As for the primary and secondary e-mail addresses and screenname, I
> don't see the need to reorder them. Primary and secondary e-mail
> addresses, by definition, need to be in that order, and I'd be happy
> if someone could tell me the value for the screename field since
> Mozilla has never shipped AOL nor any other IM product (except
> ChatZilla, which as far as I'm aware, doesn't make use of that field).
I forgot to address the other point, I think you are right and we don't
need to be able to reorder the email addresses and screen name.
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none
> none wrote:
>> Phone numbers should be swappable in my opinion, in France I haven't
>> seen a pager since the early 90's and I believe this service just no
>> longer exists, most of the younger people probably don't even know
>> what it is. Probably the same for most if not all western europe
>> countries. On the other hand, there are more mobile phone lines here
>> than traditional wired phone lines so this field should definitely be
>> on top of the list while the pager one could be suppressed and nobody
>> would notice.
>
> I can see your point. I think pagers do exist still in most countries,
> just not necessarily heard of much.
>
> I'm wondering if we re-ordered the fields within address book to
> something like:
>
> Home
> Mobile
> Work
> Fax
> Page
>
IMO that order makes more sense than the current one and would certainly
be an improvement.
BTW, I checked on Wikipedia and most pager services stopped being
offered in France in the late 90's :)
Pascal