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Axel Hecht
Sep 7, 2011, 4:09:39 PM9/7/11
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Hi,
to frame the topic:
We have a few localization efforts that don't keep up with the rapid
localization process. There are no easy answers to keep them up-to-date,
so we need to have a discussion when we flag locales.
I'm looking for people from both product (Firefox/Fennec at least) and
l10n that want to participate in this discussion.
I hope to have a limited group of people doing a small number of conf
calls and mail exchanges on this. That way, we shouldn't scope-creep the
discussion, and get to an OK compromise at large.
Why now? So far, the biggest UI changes have been around about: urls and
devtools, so I've made the call myself to just continue to ship for
desktop. I didn't investigate mobile. With Firefox 8, we'll see a dialog
on whether you want to keep your system-installed addons, AFAICT. That's
a good data point to make sure we balance the UX between a fully
localized browser, a browser with mixed in English strings, or a
migration of the users of those locales to ... well, what to convert to
is subject of this discussion as well.
RSVP..
Axel
to frame the topic:
We have a few localization efforts that don't keep up with the rapid
localization process. There are no easy answers to keep them up-to-date,
so we need to have a discussion when we flag locales.
I'm looking for people from both product (Firefox/Fennec at least) and
l10n that want to participate in this discussion.
I hope to have a limited group of people doing a small number of conf
calls and mail exchanges on this. That way, we shouldn't scope-creep the
discussion, and get to an OK compromise at large.
Why now? So far, the biggest UI changes have been around about: urls and
devtools, so I've made the call myself to just continue to ship for
desktop. I didn't investigate mobile. With Firefox 8, we'll see a dialog
on whether you want to keep your system-installed addons, AFAICT. That's
a good data point to make sure we balance the UX between a fully
localized browser, a browser with mixed in English strings, or a
migration of the users of those locales to ... well, what to convert to
is subject of this discussion as well.
RSVP..
Axel
Toni Hermoso Pulido
Sep 7, 2011, 6:14:20 PM9/7/11
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Al 07/09/11 22:09, En/na Axel Hecht ha escrit:
Hello,
as far as there is an open discussion agenda before the meetings
(somewhere in Mozilla wiki), count on me.
I must say that, as a member of a group localising at Aurora pace, I
imagine I have a different POV and my accumulated experiences may
greatly differ from those ones of people that are admirably following
central repository trail.
Best,
--
Toni Hermoso Pulido
http://www.cau.cat
as far as there is an open discussion agenda before the meetings
(somewhere in Mozilla wiki), count on me.
I must say that, as a member of a group localising at Aurora pace, I
imagine I have a different POV and my accumulated experiences may
greatly differ from those ones of people that are admirably following
central repository trail.
Best,
--
Toni Hermoso Pulido
http://www.cau.cat
Armen Zambrano Gasparnian
Sep 7, 2011, 10:01:03 PM9/7/11
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Let me know if I can help in any way.
For Armenian localization I poke the localizers a week after the merge
and again a week or two before the next merge for web bugs and any
lingering translations.
For Armenian localization I poke the localizers a week after the merge
and again a week or two before the next merge for web bugs and any
lingering translations.
flod
Sep 8, 2011, 1:08:10 AM9/8/11
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Hi Axel,
count me in for this discussion.
Francesco
count me in for this discussion.
Francesco
Marcelo Poli
Sep 8, 2011, 1:34:14 AM9/8/11
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Count me in.
I'm working on all products.
I'm working on all products.
Dwayne Bailey
Sep 8, 2011, 2:25:41 AM9/8/11
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For the language on Pootle this is critical, they've managed to keep up
on Aurora and the rapid release has been a good experience. I ping them
and that seems to get people translating. But I've also been grappling
with when is a language not good enough and we stop assisting.
--
regards
Dwayne
Matjaz Horvat
Sep 8, 2011, 2:38:37 AM9/8/11
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Great idea -I'm in!
Matjaž
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 8:25 AM, Dwayne Bailey <dwa...@translate.org.za>wrote:
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> On 2011-09-07 22:09, Axel Hecht wrote:
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>>
> dev-l10n mailing list
> dev-...@lists.mozilla.org
> https://lists.mozilla.org/**listinfo/dev-l10n<https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-l10n>
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Matjaž
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 8:25 AM, Dwayne Bailey <dwa...@translate.org.za>wrote:
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> On 2011-09-07 22:09, Axel Hecht wrote:
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>>
> I'm interested, but travelling a lot at the moment.
>
> For the language on Pootle this is critical, they've managed to keep up on
> Aurora and the rapid release has been a good experience. I ping them and
> that seems to get people translating. But I've also been grappling with
> when is a language not good enough and we stop assisting.
>
> --
> regards
> Dwayne
>
>
> ______________________________**_________________
>
> For the language on Pootle this is critical, they've managed to keep up on
> Aurora and the rapid release has been a good experience. I ping them and
> that seems to get people translating. But I've also been grappling with
> when is a language not good enough and we stop assisting.
>
> --
> regards
> Dwayne
>
>
> dev-l10n mailing list
> dev-...@lists.mozilla.org
> https://lists.mozilla.org/**listinfo/dev-l10n<https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-l10n>
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Peter Pin-Guang Chen
Sep 8, 2011, 2:37:28 AM9/8/11
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marsf
Sep 8, 2011, 8:13:47 AM9/8/11
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Hi Axel,
I'm not a main peer of Firefox/Fennec, but working for others.
Please count me in.
Milos
Sep 8, 2011, 9:31:00 AM9/8/11
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On 09/08/2011 02:06 PM, Staś Małolepszy wrote:
> This is a great and important discussion to be had, thanks for
> spearheading this, Axel! Count me in, as well.
>
> -stas
Count me in too.
--
Milos Dinic,
Firefox productization& WebLocalization enchanter,
Mozilla Corporation
twitter: @dinicmilos
blog: http://brokenkeyboard.info
> This is a great and important discussion to be had, thanks for
> spearheading this, Axel! Count me in, as well.
>
> -stas
Count me in too.
--
Milos Dinic,
Firefox productization& WebLocalization enchanter,
Mozilla Corporation
twitter: @dinicmilos
blog: http://brokenkeyboard.info
Zbigniew Braniecki
Sep 8, 2011, 9:50:16 AM9/8/11
to Axel Hecht
Awesome!
Please, count me in as I want to make sure that l20n will at the very
least not increase complexity here.
Cheers,
g.
--
Mozilla (http://www.mozilla.org)
Please, count me in as I want to make sure that l20n will at the very
least not increase complexity here.
Cheers,
g.
--
Mozilla (http://www.mozilla.org)
Cédric Corazza
Sep 8, 2011, 5:02:15 PM9/8/11
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Hi,
The French locale is not really concerned with this, but you might want
to know how we deal with this new pace. Feel free to ping me if interested.
Regards
Cédric
The French locale is not really concerned with this, but you might want
to know how we deal with this new pace. Feel free to ping me if interested.
Regards
Cédric
smo
Sep 9, 2011, 9:03:11 AM9/9/11
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Count me in!
smo
F Wolff
Sep 9, 2011, 9:15:34 AM9/9/11
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Op Wo, 2011-09-07 om 22:09 +0200 skryf Axel Hecht:
It sounds like an interesting discussion. I'm not sure why we need to
RSVP, calls, etc. I assume part of the discussion at least can be
handled here?
Friedel
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Recently on my blog:
http://translate.org.za/blogs/friedel/en/content/virtaal-070-released
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