[Event Report] Localization Hackathon @wfs-india, 20th May, 2013

[chandan kumar]

Hello All,

WFS-india is a volunteered organization created by some intelligent and
innovative minds like: Satabdi Das (A OPW- Gnome intern and FOSS
etheuasist) few months ago. The main motto of this organization is to
create awareness among women towards free and open source software in
india. For this , they have started conducting meetings on #wfs-india
channel on freenode server in order to plan an event for increasing
participation of women in free and open source software movement. In a
short span of time, finally they decided to organize an event named
"Localization Hackathon" on the eve of cultural freedom day on 20th may,
2013 from 08:00 p:m to 09:30 p:m at wfs-india channel on freenode server.

The whole event is supported by Mozilla, Fedora and Videolan (The creater
of VLC Media Player). We have got seven participants across the globe
<holingpoon, erry, sunu, Anupam, shweta, anexasajoop, sri_c>. The more
details about the participants are given below in the chat list. The guest
persons who are helping backend are Amani_glugcal, kaustavdm,
Priyankanag. The whole session of Localization Hackathon is started by me
and finally backened by Biraj karmakar and Runab Battacharya.

The output of the hackathon are as follows:
<1> in a short span of time, people get charged and comes forward to
support wfs-india.
<2> People actually learnt what localization is and how to get started in
any language by using transifex and pootle server.
<3> On founding any problem during localization, they can contact to
language co-rodinator through mailing lists.
<4> faces some problems during hackathon on pootle server needs to short
out.
<5> more things on localization will be introduced in the upcoming event.

Following features needs to be added in the pootle server in order to
improve it.
<1> Test the working of mozilla locamotion on all different available
browsers to avoid 500 internal server error.
<2> Show language code against the language name.
<3> creation of help desk to solve problem quickly if any problem occured
during hackathon.
<4> Sometimes the pootle translation page does not responds- it needs to be
fixed.
<5> porting all translations of mozilla projects to locamotion for easy
translation.

And lastly , the event was successful to some extent as we have expected. I
would like to thanks all people who have directly or indirectly supported
us in successful completion of the hackathon.A special thanks to Mozilla
Locamotion and Transifex Developers.

Please help us in promoting women in FOSS by joining #wfs-india (Freenode)
channel for a meeting on 27th May, 2013 at sharp 09:30 P:M (IST).

All the above things are mentioned in the blog. <
http://ciypro.wordpress.com/2013/05/20/localization-hackathon-wfs-india-20th-may-2013/
>
Some important links:
<1> IRC Chat Logs: http://fpaste.org/13234/
<2> Mozilla Event Page:
https://reps.mozilla.org/e/localization-hackathon-wfs-india/#
<3> Public Event Page: http://wfs-india.github.io/#/step-1
<4> getting started:
http://ciypro.wordpress.com/2013/05/20/localization-hackathon-get-started/

Thanks,

With Best Wishes,
Chandan Kumar
Final Year, Computer Science and Engineering
Dr.B.C.Roy Engineering College, Durgapur
https://ciypro.wordpress.com

[Axel Hecht]

Let me start off my comments with setting the general context: Pootle is
a volunteer-driven project. What the volunteers contributing to it can
do, and want to do is really up to that team.

It's also open-source, so you can contribute patches, if you want to
scratch an itch.

> <1> Test the working of mozilla locamotion on all different available
> browsers to avoid 500 internal server error.

Quite frankly, that's a non-goal for the mozilla-focused installation.
If you're a firefox localizer, you should be using Firefox (actually,
Aurora) in your language. If the browser you work on doesn't work for
you, why would it work for anybody else?

For the pootle project in general, it's of course useful to work good in
many browsers, but I guess it's OK to limit this to current versions.

> <2> Show language code against the language name.

What's the exact use-case? The reason I'm asking is that the language
name shows up often, and adding the locale code everywhere would likely
add a good deal of noise to the UI.

> <3> creation of help desk to solve problem quickly if any problem occured
> during hackathon.

There's an irc channel on freenode, #pootle. That's not a help desk,
though. Again, pootle is a volunteer driven effort, if you want
assistance from the pootle guys for your sprint, you'll have to motivate
one of them to get out of bed early, given your timezone. Not
impossible, as they're mostly around UTC natively.

> <4> Sometimes the pootle translation page does not responds- it needs to be
> fixed.

Dwayne and I met at djangocon.eu (awesome!) this weekend, and there's
some low-hanging fruit to improve responsiveness of the
mozilla.locamotion.org site.
I also overheard a conversation between Arky and Dwayne about UI
feedback on things that happen in ajax. No UI feedback plus interesting
network connections make that problem probably look worse than it might
be. This is harder to fix, of course.

> <5> porting all translations of mozilla projects to locamotion for easy
> translation.

This is blocked on pootle being able to participate in a distributed
effort. That's really far out, and not a high-priority issue, I guess. I
can't see this happening without ripping out significant pieces of the
software toolchain, and replacing them with a different chain. I.e.,
you'd replace A-B-C-D with A-XY-D. That's tough.

>
> And lastly , the event was successful to some extent as we have expected. I
> would like to thanks all people who have directly or indirectly supported
> us in successful completion of the hackathon.A special thanks to Mozilla
> Locamotion and Transifex Developers.

Great to hear. Thanks for the effort and the feedback.

Axel

[Dwayne Bailey]

We do love patches :)

But first off please do let us know if you intend running such events, for
simple reason of timing which you'll see below.

>
>
> <1> Test the working of mozilla locamotion on all different available
>> browsers to avoid 500 internal server error.
>>
>
> Quite frankly, that's a non-goal for the mozilla-focused installation. If
> you're a firefox localizer, you should be using Firefox (actually, Aurora)
> in your language. If the browser you work on doesn't work for you, why
> would it work for anybody else?
>
> For the pootle project in general, it's of course useful to work good in
> many browsers, but I guess it's OK to limit this to current versions.

I don't think this is a browser compatibility issue. You just happened to
run your event on the same day that we migrated all the translations to
Aurora 23. So Pootle was under some additional load. Weekends are busy on
Pootle, Mondays are quiet. We could have done this on Tuesday if we'd
known :(

>
>
> <2> Show language code against the language name.
>>
>
> What's the exact use-case? The reason I'm asking is that the language name
> shows up often, and adding the locale code everywhere would likely add a
> good deal of noise to the UI.

Like Axel I'd need a little more detail. Most translators we work with
don't even know what those are and it does add noise where we are trying
hard to remove noise.

>
>
> <3> creation of help desk to solve problem quickly if any problem occured
>> during hackathon.
>>
>
> There's an irc channel on freenode, #pootle. That's not a help desk,
> though. Again, pootle is a volunteer driven effort, if you want assistance
> from the pootle guys for your sprint, you'll have to motivate one of them
> to get out of bed early, given your timezone. Not impossible, as they're
> mostly around UTC natively.

Tell us a bit in advance and most likely someone can plan to be around.

>
>
> <4> Sometimes the pootle translation page does not responds- it needs to
>> be
>> fixed.
>>
>
> Dwayne and I met at djangocon.eu (awesome!) this weekend, and there's
> some low-hanging fruit to improve responsiveness of the
> mozilla.locamotion.org site.
> I also overheard a conversation between Arky and Dwayne about UI feedback
> on things that happen in ajax. No UI feedback plus interesting network
> connections make that problem probably look worse than it might be. This is
> harder to fix, of course.

We're looking at some easy wins in terms of responsiveness but long term
we'll do a bit more that should make is really quick even on slow
connections, the last part is pretty hard though.

>
>
> <5> porting all translations of mozilla projects to locamotion for easy
>> translation.
>>
>
> This is blocked on pootle being able to participate in a distributed
> effort. That's really far out, and not a high-priority issue, I guess. I
> can't see this happening without ripping out significant pieces of the
> software toolchain, and replacing them with a different chain. I.e., you'd
> replace A-B-C-D with A-XY-D. That's tough.

We host a few things already. If you have other projects that you'd like
hosted and that can also work within the Mozilla space then let us know.
For the moment we're limiting new projects unless we have someone volunteer
to run with it. If you want to volunteer to lead e.g. Thunderbird
localisation then we'd be happy for the assistance.

>
>
>
>> And lastly , the event was successful to some extent as we have expected.
>> I
>> would like to thanks all people who have directly or indirectly supported
>> us in successful completion of the hackathon.A special thanks to Mozilla
>> Locamotion and Transifex Developers.
>>
>
> Great to hear. Thanks for the effort and the feedback.
>
> Axel
>
>
> Please help us in promoting women in FOSS by joining #wfs-india (Freenode)
>> channel for a meeting on 27th May, 2013 at sharp 09:30 P:M (IST).
>>
>> All the above things are mentioned in the blog. <

>> http://ciypro.wordpress.com/**2013/05/20/localization-**
>> hackathon-wfs-india-20th-may-**2013/<http://ciypro.wordpress.com/2013/05/20/localization-hackathon-wfs-india-20th-may-2013/>

>>
>>>
>>> Some important links:
>> <1> IRC Chat Logs: http://fpaste.org/13234/
>> <2> Mozilla Event Page:

>> https://reps.mozilla.org/e/**localization-hackathon-wfs-**india/#<https://reps.mozilla.org/e/localization-hackathon-wfs-india/#>
>> <3> Public Event Page: http://wfs-india.github.io/#/**step-1<http://wfs-india.github.io/#/step-1>
>> <4> getting started:
>> http://ciypro.wordpress.com/**2013/05/20/localization-**
>> hackathon-get-started/<http://ciypro.wordpress.com/2013/05/20/localization-hackathon-get-started/>

>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> With Best Wishes,
>> Chandan Kumar
>> Final Year, Computer Science and Engineering
>> Dr.B.C.Roy Engineering College, Durgapur
>> https://ciypro.wordpress.com
>>
>>

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