New download button on mozilla.org, a few strings needed

[Pascal Chevrel]

Hi guys,

Many many people have already noticed and already translated their
strings, thanks to them!

For those that haven't noticed, I have added a separate .lang file on
mozilla.org that *only* contains download button strings for Firefox.
it's probably the most important strings we need as they are the ones to
get Firefox ;)

We have new download button boxes and most of those boxes can be seen there:
https://www-dev.allizom.org/mk/styleguide/websites/sandstone/buttons/

(the beta/aurora ones are not listed, I work with webdev on having a
page on a demo server with an exhaustive list of all our buttons).

So please check the webdashboard
(http://l10n.mozilla-community.org/webdashboard/) and translate the new
strings, please also test that the download buttons display correctly if
your strings are longer than the English ones, if you cannot change the
text and the button looks bad, please file a bug (www.mozilla.org/L10N)
about it and I will see if we can help with CSS rules to make the
download button look good for your language.

Thanks!

Pascal

[Jørgen Rasmussen]

Hi Pascal

The small button with the text "Firefox Beta for Android Get it free on
Google Play" is not looking right in some locales. (da, de, nl, fr) to
mention a few.
--
Regards JR

[Pascal Chevrel]

Le 25/03/2013 16:27, Jï¿œrgen Rasmussen a ï¿œcrit :

>> Pascal
>
> Hi Pascal
>
> The small button with the text "Firefox Beta for Android Get it free on
> Google Play" is not looking right in some locales. (da, de, nl, fr) to
> mention a few.

Thanks, I'll check with the designer if we can change a bit the design
to accomodate more text.

pascal

[flod]

Il 25/03/13 23:17, Pascal Chevrel ha scritto:

> (the beta/aurora ones are not listed, I work with webdev on having a
> page on a demo server with an exhaustive list of all our buttons).

Hi Pascal,
a couple of questions ;-)

https://www-dev.allizom.org/it/styleguide/websites/sandstone/buttons/

1) Is it just me or there's no button using the string " Download Firefox"?

2) " Get it free on Google Play": strangely is shorter in Italian than
English and looks quite strange right now when it's displayed on two lines.

The only solution I can think of is having a second string for narrow
spaces where I can put a "<br/>" to force the new line (not sure how
much the system would like it).

Francesco

[Inma Barrios]

2013/3/25 Pascal Chevrel <pascal....@free.fr>

> Hi guys,
>
> Many many people have already noticed and already translated their
> strings, thanks to them!
>
> For those that haven't noticed, I have added a separate .lang file on
> mozilla.org that *only* contains download button strings for Firefox.
> it's probably the most important strings we need as they are the ones to
> get Firefox ;)
>
> We have new download button boxes and most of those boxes can be seen
> there:

> https://www-dev.allizom.org/es-ES/styleguide/websites/sandstone/buttons/<https://www-dev.allizom.org/mk/styleguide/websites/sandstone/buttons/>

>
> (the beta/aurora ones are not listed, I work with webdev on having a page
> on a demo server with an exhaustive list of all our buttons).
>
>

Hi team,


Firefox Beta for Android button text is not displayed properly. Also I
edited the string "Qué hay de nuevo" > "Novedades" (shorter), but it seems
it didn't get updated.

Thanks!


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[Pascal Chevrel]

Le 26/03/2013 01:27, flod a ï¿œcrit :

> Il 25/03/13 23:17, Pascal Chevrel ha scritto:
>> (the beta/aurora ones are not listed, I work with webdev on having a
>> page on a demo server with an exhaustive list of all our buttons).
> Hi Pascal,
> a couple of questions ;-)
>
> https://www-dev.allizom.org/it/styleguide/websites/sandstone/buttons/
>
> 1) Is it just me or there's no button using the string " Download Firefox"?

that string is actually used in the text-only version in the <noscript> tag.

>
> 2) " Get it free on Google Play": strangely is shorter in Italian than
> English and looks quite strange right now when it's displayed on two lines.
>
> The only solution I can think of is having a second string for narrow
> spaces where I can put a "<br/>" to force the new line (not sure how
> much the system would like it).

Adding a <br> works with lang files. I looked at the css and available
space in the button and there isn't many pixels we can gain to allow
more text, but the web designer is better than me at that and might find
ideas. So our options are:
1/ find translated text that fit the boxes without compromising quality
of message
2/ see if we can get some more margin in the button for all locales via
css to solve display bugs for many locales at once
3/ use per locale CSS, for that I need to work with the webdev directly
but I can't much this week and next week (travelling, Paris office move,
other deadlines...). Usually this solution works best but is also more
time consuming and means a bit more maintenance over time
4/ add line breaks as a last resource

Pascal

[Pascal Chevrel]

Le 26/03/2013 04:37, Inma Barrios a ï¿œcrit :

> Hi team,
>
>
> Firefox Beta for Android button text is not displayed properly. Also I

> edited the string "Quￜ hay de nuevo" > "Novedades" (shorter), but it seems

> it didn't get updated.
>
> Thanks!
>
>

Did you test on dev or producton? Can you provide the url of the page
where you have the bug ? thanks

Pascal

[Anas El Husseini]

Hi Pascal,

I noticed that for the first two buttons for "Standard download", the
brandname "Firefox" isn't localizable, in contrast to the case of "Mobile
download" buttons. Is that a bug?

Best Regards,
Anas

On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 12:17 AM, Pascal Chevrel <pascal....@free.fr>wrote:

> Hi guys,
>
> Many many people have already noticed and already translated their
> strings, thanks to them!
>
> For those that haven't noticed, I have added a separate .lang file on
> mozilla.org that *only* contains download button strings for Firefox.
> it's probably the most important strings we need as they are the ones to
> get Firefox ;)
>
> We have new download button boxes and most of those boxes can be seen
> there:

> https://www-dev.allizom.org/**mk/styleguide/websites/**sandstone/buttons/<https://www-dev.allizom.org/mk/styleguide/websites/sandstone/buttons/>

>
> (the beta/aurora ones are not listed, I work with webdev on having a page
> on a demo server with an exhaustive list of all our buttons).
>

> So please check the webdashboard (http://l10n.mozilla-**
> community.org/webdashboard/<http://l10n.mozilla-community.org/webdashboard/>)

> and translate the new strings, please also test that the download buttons
> display correctly if your strings are longer than the English ones, if you
> cannot change the text and the button looks bad, please file a bug (
> www.mozilla.org/L10N) about it and I will see if we can help with CSS
> rules to make the download button look good for your language.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Pascal

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[Pascal Chevrel]

Le 27/03/2013 11:45, Anas El Husseini a ï¿œcrit :

> Hi Pascal,
>
> I noticed that for the first two buttons for "Standard download", the
> brandname "Firefox" isn't localizable, in contrast to the case of "Mobile
> download" buttons. Is that a bug?
>
> Best Regards,
> Anas

Well, depends on the point of view :) If you are a localizer using
non-latin script, you usually want to transliterate Firefox, but if you
work for the marketing/branding department, you don't want anybody to
touch the brand name.

Currently, the balance seems to be more on the branding side and it was
added recently in the styleguide for mozilla that Firefox as a brand
name should not be modified at all:
http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/styleguide/communications/translation/#branding

If you need a special case for your locale, please file a bug and CC
l10n drivers to it, thanks

Pascal

[Pascal Chevrel]

Le 25/03/2013 17:17, Pascal Chevrel a ï¿œcrit :

37 locales have already translated the strings for the new download
button, that means that we still need 57 translations.

Please translate them quickly, ideally, I would like to be able to
switch to the new buttons next week as this is a big blocker to migrate
our download pages from the old PHP codebase to the newer Python one.

Thanks!

Pascal

[Γιώργος Φιωτάκης]

Στις 30/03/2013 01:15 πμ, ο/η Pascal Chevrel έγραψε:

> _______________________________________________
Pascal, is there any chance we will have available aurora buttons before
the switch?
We (el locale) have used <br/> to split the text for aurora in two lines
and make it appear ok on the buttons for stable and beta.
It looks that there might be enough space for the aurora button as
well, but I can't be sure if I can't see it (bug 855043).

[Pascal Chevrel]

Le 30/03/2013 13:49, Γιώργος Φιωτάκης a écrit :
> Pascal, is there any chance we will have available aurora buttons before
> the switch?
> We (el locale) have used <br/> to split the text for aurora in two lines
> and make it appear ok on the buttons for stable and beta.
> It looks that there might be enough space for the aurora button as
> well, but I can't be sure if I can't see it (bug 855043).

Yesterday, the webdev in charge of that page told me he was working on
it, so I expect that we will have it early next week and that will be
before the switch as we also need to update the /new page that use it.

My estimate (based on my travelling, the release of Firefox Health
Report and 15 years of Mozilla this week), is that I should be able to
switch the /new page at the end of the week. Then I will work on /fx
(which will require some translation) and then Aurora/Beta. I don't
expect that we will switch to new buttons for Aurora / Beta before at
least April 10, so that should give you time. In short, the short term
targets for the python switch for download pages are final releases, the
aurora/beta channel pages will be later.

Cheers

pascal

[Eduard Gamonal]

Hey Pascal,
Where does it get the name of the locale from? In this case, the first
letter should be uppercase for Catalan (ca). if it's used in other places,
maybe css (text-transform: capitalize;) would help here instead of changing
the string.

[Pascal Chevrel]

Le 01/04/2013 23:08, Eduard Gamonal a ï¿œcrit :

> Hey Pascal,
> Where does it get the name of the locale from? In this case, the first
> letter should be uppercase for Catalan (ca). if it's used in other places,
> maybe css (text-transform: capitalize;) would help here instead of changing
> the string.
>

That's from the product-details library, note that we have been using
that word lowercase for your locale for years (if not a decade ;) ). You
can see on the older version of the download page still in use that it
is not capitalized for your locale:
http://www.mozilla.org/ca/firefox/new

I can update the data in product-details and uppercase it.

Pascal

[Eduard Gamonal]

On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 6:20 PM, Pascal Chevrel <pascal....@free.fr>wrote:

> That's from the product-details library, note that we have been using that
> word lowercase for your locale for years (if not a decade ;) ).

strange, I already had mozilla at that time

> You can see on the older version of the download page still in use that it
> is not capitalized for your locale:

> http://www.mozilla.org/ca/**firefox/new<http://www.mozilla.org/ca/firefox/new>

>
> I can update the data in product-details and uppercase it.

it looked alright in that context :)
if it's used only in those buttons, then ok, capitalize it. otherwise let's
discuss that in another conversation.

>
>
> Pascal

[Pascal Chevrel]

Le 02/04/2013 22:50, Eduard Gamonal a ï¿œcrit :

> On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 6:20 PM, Pascal Chevrel <pascal....@free.fr>wrote:
>
> it looked alright in that context :)
> if it's used only in those buttons, then ok, capitalize it. otherwise let's
> discuss that in another conversation.
>

Bug filed, you are CCed.

Pascal

[Pascal Chevrel]

Le 30/03/2013 19:49, Γιώργος Φιωτάκης a écrit :

>> _______________________________________________
> Pascal, is there any chance we will have available aurora buttons before
> the switch?
> We (el locale) have used <br/> to split the text for aurora in two lines
> and make it appear ok on the buttons for stable and beta.
> It looks that there might be enough space for the aurora button as
> well, but I can't be sure if I can't see it (bug 855043).

here is the page with all buttons, just change the locale code in the
url to see them for your locale:

https://www-dev.allizom.org/en-US/styleguide/all-download-buttons/

Pascal