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Zachary Carter

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May 17, 2013, 3:09:46 PM5/17/13
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Many people are not aware of the PiCL effort, so it might be worth giving a brief, high-level overview of our goals.

What would be worth mentioning for SignIn? Mozilla IDP? Migration to AWS? Beta 2?

-z

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> Sure. What do we want to present? A few notes from each team? Similar
> to what is shared in the Identity Meeting? Do I need to poke team
> leads each week to fill in updates, or will the reminder from Potch
> be enough?
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> I'd push that even if it seems insignificant, we have *something* to
> say each week. The consistent appearance from Identity will help
> everyone else on the Project remember we exist and are important.
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> On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 8:24 AM, Tauni Oxborrow <
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> +1 on strategy on presentations and assignments
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> Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 8:12:20 AM
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> How about we skip this week, strategize on how we want to present in
> general, assign weeks so we show off a different team member every
> time, and start next week?
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> Sean, want to lead on planning?
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> Chris Karlof < cka...@mozilla.com > wrote:
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> I would step up, but unfortunately, I also have an eye appt this
> morning.
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> On May 13, 2013, at 6:33 AM, Benjamin Adida wrote:
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> > Usually I can do this, but someone else should do today given my
> > schedule.
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> > Sean McArthur < smca...@mozilla.com > wrote:
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> > What all do we want to say? Do we have someone in MV or SF that
> > could stand
> > up with our notes? Do we start this Monday?
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Sean McArthur

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May 17, 2013, 3:21:55 PM5/17/13
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Good call on PICL. Can you or Chris have some notes ready for the Monday
Meeting?

For Sign In, Beta 2 seems like old news. But maybe. Yahoo Identity
Bridging? Definitely seems worth it to mention our progress on the Mozilla
IdP. Maybe AWS? I know nothing about that work.

And that Persona continues to work towards the best experience possible on
Firefox OS.

Let's fill in this etherpad:
https://id.etherpad.mozilla.org/mozilla-project-meeting

Lloyd Hilaiel

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May 17, 2013, 3:43:46 PM5/17/13
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On May 17, 2013, at 1:21 PM, Sean McArthur <smca...@mozilla.com> wrote:

> Good call on PICL. Can you or Chris have some notes ready for the Monday Meeting?
>
> For Sign In, Beta 2 seems like old news. But maybe. Yahoo Identity Bridging? Definitely seems worth it to mention our progress on the Mozilla IdP. Maybe AWS? I know nothing about that work.
>
> And that Persona continues to work towards the best experience possible on Firefox OS.

I would bring this point, that we are taking FirefoxOS support extremely seriously and have dedicated a significant portion of our team to this, to the forefront. Our colleagues are under a lot of stress to make FirefoxOS successful, and I wouldn't be surprised if some of them failed to realize that persona functioning well at scale is a requirement for people to be able to use marketplace and install apps, and that we actually are playing a critical role in supporting the organization, in addition to trying to kill passwords on the web.

I would also emphasize the true fact that we have beefed up our Native team which ultimately means more attention to integration with all the firefoxen - something that should viscerally show Mozilla's commitment to persona, and will improve Persona UX for a quarter of internet users.

Sorry, had my marketing hat on there, but I do think these are true facts that will help people understand what we do and how important it is to the organizations key short-term objectives. The level of investment by jedp, shane, crystal, edwin, jrgm, and everyone on the team, really, to make FirefoxOS go has been amazing. People should know about it.

So I'd propose something like this (which cover's key events for persona and native, not picl (or up)):

1. Supporting FirefoxOS (we're in the final round of testing in cooperation with marketplace)
2. Accelerating Native Support (we've grown the team that focuses specifically on integrating identity products into firefoxen)
3. Fixing LDAP logins (are you sick of typing in your corporate password? IT and the Identity team are going to fix this in Q2, and it's going to be mind-blowingly awesome, stay tuned...)
4. Forwarding Persona (we're full steam ahead on gmail identity bridging which combined with yahoo will deliver on the no-new-password promise for half of the world internet population)

(I expect that because we've been absent from the monday meeting, the first re-entry should get everyone caught up on what we're doing, and subsequently we can be more granular)

thoughts?

lloyd

Johnathan Nightingale

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May 17, 2013, 3:54:04 PM5/17/13
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I agree with Lloyd's thoughts below, for what it's worth. Moreover, Monday being a Canadian holiday means I'll not occupy my usual spot at the top of the roster on Firefox, and would happily hand this team my sword to re-inject identity into the proceedings.

J
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Ben Adida

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May 17, 2013, 9:24:23 PM5/17/13
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I'll add that it's tough for folks to follow every detail of the entire
project in a high-speed monday meeting. So I would suggest sticking to 2 or
3 points per meeting. Spend 1 minute on each. Aim for a total of 3 minutes
or less that packs punch and one key thought to remember.

-Ben
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Lloyd Hilaiel

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May 17, 2013, 9:35:08 PM5/17/13
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On May 17, 2013, at 7:24 PM, Ben Adida <b...@adida.net> wrote:

> I'll add that it's tough for folks to follow every detail of the entire project in a high-speed monday meeting. So I would suggest sticking to 2 or 3 points per meeting. Spend 1 minute on each. Aim for a total of 3 minutes or less that packs punch and one key thought to remember.

+1

Tauni Oxborrow

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May 18, 2013, 8:01:33 PM5/18/13
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+1

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Andrew Ducker

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May 20, 2013, 5:39:53 AM5/20/13
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On Friday, 17 May 2013 20:43:46 UTC+1, Lloyd Hilaiel wrote:
> 4. Forwarding Persona (we're full steam ahead on gmail identity bridging which combined with yahoo will deliver on the no-new-password promise for half of the world internet population)

As a note here - will this work with people using Google Apps for Domains? My email address is managed by Google/Gmail, and it would be great to be able to denote this and have it automatically work with the bridging.

Andy

Lloyd Hilaiel

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May 20, 2013, 2:11:04 PM5/20/13
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We couldn't get it together in time for this monday's meeting. We'll figure out how to get remote voice in and ensure we have presence starting next week.

lloyd

On May 17, 2013, at 1:54 PM, Johnathan Nightingale <joh...@mozilla.com> wrote:

> I agree with Lloyd's thoughts below, for what it's worth. Moreover, Monday being a Canadian holiday means I'll not occupy my usual spot at the top of the roster on Firefox, and would happily hand this team my sword to re-inject identity into the proceedings.
>
> J
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> On May 17, 2013, at 3:43 PM, Lloyd Hilaiel wrote:
>
>> On May 17, 2013, at 1:21 PM, Sean McArthur <smca...@mozilla.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Good call on PICL. Can you or Chris have some notes ready for the Monday Meeting?
>>>
>>> For Sign In, Beta 2 seems like old news. But maybe. Yahoo Identity Bridging? Definitely seems worth it to mention our progress on the Mozilla IdP. Maybe AWS? I know nothing about that work.
>>>
>>> And that Persona continues to work towards the best experience possible on Firefox OS.
>>
>> I would bring this point, that we are taking FirefoxOS support extremely seriously and have dedicated a significant portion of our team to this, to the forefront. Our colleagues are under a lot of stress to make FirefoxOS successful, and I wouldn't be surprised if some of them failed to realize that persona functioning well at scale is a requirement for people to be able to use marketplace and install apps, and that we actually are playing a critical role in supporting the organization, in addition to trying to kill passwords on the web.
>>
>> I would also emphasize the true fact that we have beefed up our Native team which ultimately means more attention to integration with all the firefoxen - something that should viscerally show Mozilla's commitment to persona, and will improve Persona UX for a quarter of internet users.
>>
>> Sorry, had my marketing hat on there, but I do think these are true facts that will help people understand what we do and how important it is to the organizations key short-term objectives. The level of investment by jedp, shane, crystal, edwin, jrgm, and everyone on the team, really, to make FirefoxOS go has been amazing. People should know about it.
>>
>> So I'd propose something like this (which cover's key events for persona and native, not picl (or up)):
>>
>> 1. Supporting FirefoxOS (we're in the final round of testing in cooperation with marketplace)
>> 2. Accelerating Native Support (we've grown the team that focuses specifically on integrating identity products into firefoxen)
>> 3. Fixing LDAP logins (are you sick of typing in your corporate password? IT and the Identity team are going to fix this in Q2, and it's going to be mind-blowingly awesome, stay tuned...)
>> 4. Forwarding Persona (we're full steam ahead on gmail identity bridging which combined with yahoo will deliver on the no-new-password promise for half of the world internet population)
>>

Crystal Beasley

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May 20, 2013, 4:21:20 PM5/20/13
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I'm hoping some of the folks in SF can speak on our behalf. It's not much
more difficult than being in MtView.

I also think we should crack the nut of getting remote voices in. Dietrich
often gives the FxOS report, so it's definitely doable. I'll see if he can
give us some pointers.

c
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