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Roadmap says RC1 on March 6th - where is it?

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maststef

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Mar 11, 2007, 5:43:50 AM3/11/07
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Hi,

Where/When can I download the RC1 of TB2? The Roadmap says Freeze on
March 6th, but on my calender this day has already passed by.
Or what does "Freeze" mean? I thought it means stopping development and
releasing the Release Candidate. If you freeze the code and not
releasing it, how can you find and remove bugs?

Tony Mechelynck

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Mar 11, 2007, 10:48:29 AM3/11/07
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1. Roadmaps are not cast in bronze; they show the dates of releases etc. as
they were foreseen at the time the roadmap was posted.

2. Until and unless a formal 2.0rc1 gets posted on
releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/thunderbird/releases/ (where the latest
Tb2 build is currently, AFAICT, a 2.0b2 dated 22-Jan-2007), I suppose you can
test the "Tb 2.0pre" builds from
http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/thunderbird/nightly/latest-mozilla1.8/


Best regards,
Tony.
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maststef

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Mar 11, 2007, 1:32:00 PM3/11/07
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I know, Roadmaps are only a prediction. But the TB2 Roadmap was edited
on the 4th or 5th of march to "RC1 freeze on march the 6th". And such a
short-dated change in the roadmap to such a clear statement means to me
that the named date is correct (or let's say +/- 2 days - but now it's
already +5 days).

Tony Mechelynck schrieb:

Rob Hasselbaum

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Mar 11, 2007, 1:45:04 PM3/11/07
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On 03/11/2007 01:32 PM, maststef wrote:

> I know, Roadmaps are only a prediction. But the TB2 Roadmap was edited
> on the 4th or 5th of march to "RC1 freeze on march the 6th". And such a
> short-dated change in the roadmap to such a clear statement means to me
> that the named date is correct (or let's say +/- 2 days - but now it's
> already +5 days).

"Freeze" does not mean the same thing as "ship". Freeze just means no
additional changes are expected to go into the tree unless something
major comes up during testing. At least that's how it works at my
company. I assume the process is similar for Thunderbird.

If you can't wait, you can always download the source and build it.

Tony Mechelynck

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Mar 11, 2007, 1:47:53 PM3/11/07
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The following was posted Thurdsay in this same newsgroup, inviting us to test
the nightlies (i.e., the builds available at the above-mentioned URL). The
Subject was "Thunderbird 2 'RC' Test Day - Friday March 9th from 7am-5pm PST".

> *I meant to cross post this and forgot...
>
> Thunderbird 2 is at zarro bugs and we're going to treat the nightly branch build as an informal RC so we can gather feedback and we need your help. Please join us Friday March 9th from 7am-5pm PST.
>
> More information about the Test Day can be found here:
> http://wiki.mozilla.org/Thunderbird:Current_QA_TestDay
>
> Nightly branch builds that we will use for testing can be found at:
> http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/thunderbird/nightly/latest-mozilla1.8/
> http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/thunderbird/nightly/latest-mozilla1.8-l10n/
>
> Thanks for your help!
>
> -Team Thunderbird

Best regards,
Tony.
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Omega X

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Mar 12, 2007, 4:10:49 PM3/12/07
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My advice to you is to ignore those roadmap predictions and just wait
for the word on the grapevine. 98% of the time things at Mozilla get
pushed back. I have rarely seen an on time release of anything.

Scott MacGregor

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Mar 12, 2007, 6:26:42 PM3/12/07
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Hey All,

We hit our code and string freeze deadline last week for Thunderbird 2. We are currently in a holding pattern waiting for release cycles to do the heavy lifting for actually tagging, setting up the release machines, making the RC, generating the update diffs, pushing the updates out to the beta channel, dealing with l10n, etc.

I'll keep you posted when that process starts.

In the mean time for everyone interested in the Thunderbird 2 release, we need your help.

Here's what you can do to hep us release Thunderbird 2:

Download and use a nightly Thunderbird 2 branch build. Right now we are at zarro bugs.

* http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/thunderbird/nightly/latest-mozilla1.8/
* http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/thunderbird/nightly/latest-mozilla1.8-l10n/

Participate in our Thunderbird 2 test days. We had one last Friday and I'll set one up again for this Friday, March 16th. This is a great way for folks who want to see Thunderbird 2 get released soon to help.

* http://wiki.mozilla.org/Thunderbird:Current_QA_TestDay

Thanks for helping!

-Team Thunderbird

Tony Mechelynck

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Mar 12, 2007, 9:53:15 PM3/12/07
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Scott MacGregor wrote:
[...]

> In the mean time for everyone interested in the Thunderbird 2 release,
> we need your help.
> Here's what you can do to hep us release Thunderbird 2:
>
> Download and use a nightly Thunderbird 2 branch build. Right now we are
> at zarro bugs.
>
> *
> http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/thunderbird/nightly/latest-mozilla1.8/
>
> *
> http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/thunderbird/nightly/latest-mozilla1.8-l10n/
[...]

I've been using Tb2 nightlies for my day-to-day mail/news reading and writing
for quite some time. Any bugs I notice (which isn't often, even compared with
the Fx & Sm browsers) are reported at bugzilla.mozilla.org. All in all, a
great product IMHO. :-) :-) :-) :thumbsup:


Best regards,
Tony.
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Scott MacGregor

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Mar 20, 2007, 12:20:56 AM3/20/07
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A quick status update on this. The release team is slotted to begin putting together the RC for us this Wednesday. It usually takes 7-10 days from when they start to when the RC is ready to go live.

I'll keep you all updated if that changes.

Cheers,

-Team Thunderbird

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