Scheduling a Conference Call
David Ascher
scary of creatures, the dreaded timezone monster.
Finding a time is going to be hard, because there are lots of parameters
to take into account:
1) Avoiding weekends
2) Enabling as many participants as possible, especially key participants
3) Not conflicting with other related events (Mozilla conf calls in
particular).
4) Everyone's personal preferences =)
With respect to #2, the constituencies that it strikes me have to be
able to attend at least most calls include: Thunderbird devs and QA
folks, Seamonkey devs, and Calendar devs (the latter two groups may
obviously not want to join each time, but it strikes me as very
important that they _can_ join). From my current understanding, I think
that most of those people are currently in North America and Europe,
which I think tends to imply scheduling things near 17:00 UTC (9am
Pacific, 18:00 Germany, ...).
Are there people in other timezones who need/really want to be there?
If the above assumptions are true, then the big question is what days
can work. The calendar call is on Wednesdays. Fridays is out because
that would make it Friday night in Europe, and that's not a great time
for meetings.
That leaves Monday, Tuesday, and Thursday.
Opinions? Other factors to consider? What other high-overlap meetings
are there that I've forgotten?
I'd like to start with a call next week, so pipe up soon, so we can
settle this.
--david
Chris Ilias
> It's high time we started a Thunderbird weekly call. Cue that most
> scary of creatures, the dreaded timezone monster.
>
>
> I'd like to start with a call next week, so pipe up soon, so we can
> settle this.
I nominate:
Tuesdays - 10:00am Pacific, 1:00pm Eastern, 18:00 UTC
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Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.)
>
> I nominate:
> Tuesdays - 10:00am Pacific, 1:00pm Eastern, 18:00 UTC
>
>
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Robert Kaiser
> I nominate:
> Tuesdays - 10:00am Pacific, 1:00pm Eastern, 18:00 UTC
As long as we finish before 11am Pacific, when the Gecko-1.9/FF3 meeting
starts ;-)
Robert Kaiser
Mark Banner
Chris Ilias wrote:
> On 2/26/08 2:43 PM, _David Ascher_ spoke thusly:
>> It's high time we started a Thunderbird weekly call. Cue that most
>> scary of creatures, the dreaded timezone monster.
>>
> <snip>
>>
>> I'd like to start with a call next week, so pipe up soon, so we can
>> settle this.
>
> I nominate:
> Tuesdays - 10:00am Pacific, 1:00pm Eastern, 18:00 UTC
>
18:00 UTC is definitely preferable to 17:00 UTC for me. Mondays or
Tuesdays either should be fine.
Standard8
Gary Kwong
> With respect to #2, the constituencies that it strikes me have to be
> able to attend at least most calls include: Thunderbird devs and QA
> folks, Seamonkey devs, and Calendar devs (the latter two groups may
> obviously not want to join each time, but it strikes me as very
> important that they _can_ join). From my current understanding, I think
> that most of those people are currently in North America and Europe,
> which I think tends to imply scheduling things near 17:00 UTC (9am
> Pacific, 18:00 Germany, ...).
>
> Are there people in other timezones who need/really want to be there?
>
I'm in favour of Tuesdays (after the Mozilla call on monday and before
the calendar call on wednesday), but at 9am PST.
The start time of 9am PST = 1700 UTC = 1am GMT+8 (China, HK, Singapore
etc.), but not as bad as 10am PST = 1800 UTC = 2am GMT+8
Moreover, this leaves open the possibility that the conf call may
occasionally take more than an hour if there are many things on the
agenda, since there are a full 2 hours before the Gecko 1.9 call. The
conf call may be rushed to end on time if it starts at 10am PST.
However, I may be one of the rare devs/QA folks on the Asian side, so I
guess I'm the minority voice.
Gary Kwong
Dan Mosedale
> I'm in favour of Tuesdays (after the Mozilla call on monday and before
> the calendar call on wednesday), but at 9am PST.
>
> The start time of 9am PST = 1700 UTC = 1am GMT+8 (China, HK, Singapore
> etc.), but not as bad as 10am PST = 1800 UTC = 2am GMT+8
>
> Moreover, this leaves open the possibility that the conf call may
> occasionally take more than an hour if there are many things on the
> agenda, since there are a full 2 hours before the Gecko 1.9 call. The
> conf call may be rushed to end on time if it starts at 10am PST.
In my experience with calendar calls back in the day, and Firefox calls
more recently, running over an hour does happen more often than one
would like, so this is a real concern.
Dan
David Ascher
Bryan W Clark
That time works for me. Monday - High Noon EST
~ Bryan
Chris Ilias
> Agreed. Any conflicts with Monday 9am PST/1700 UTC?
We've got Firefox Support meetings an hour later.
<http://wiki.mozilla.org/Support/Weekly_Meetings>
nick.k...@gmail.com
> Agreed. Any conflicts with Monday 9am PST/1700 UTC?
9am PST would be perfect for me!
nick.k...@gmail.com
> > Agreed. Any conflicts with Monday 9am PST/1700 UTC?
9am would work best for me!
Magnus Melin
> Agreed. Any conflicts with Monday 9am PST/1700 UTC?
Should work for me!
-Magnus
Mark Banner
>> In my experience with calendar calls back in the day, and Firefox calls
>> more recently, running over an hour does happen more often than one
>> would like, so this is a real concern.
> Agreed. Any conflicts with Monday 9am PST/1700 UTC?
hmm, that's really bad for me. I could probably do 16:30 UTC, or 18:00
UTC, but I really need 17:30 - 18:00 UTC free.
Standard8
Joey Minta
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David Ascher
Tuesdays, 9:30AM, 17:30UTC
Should leave 90 minutes (in all TZ!) before the Fx3/Gecko1.9 meetings,
and I think most people can make it.
I'll assume that we start with that next week, unless people come up
with strong objections & better alternatives.
I'll start working on an agenda, which will be on the wiki.
--david
Dan Mosedale
> My current understanding is that the following time is the best overall:
>
> Tuesdays, 9:30AM, 17:30UTC
>
David whipped up an agenda for Tuesday's meeting, which I think looks
like a good one. I'm taking the liberty of linking to it here:
<http://wiki.mozilla.org/Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2008-03-04>. Feel
free to add stuff that you think should be discussed...
Dan