TVguide - third time
Bill Davidsen
needed to allow using TVguide.com/Listings? In SM 1.1.18 and Firefox 3.5.x if I
click on a show name I get a synopsis. In 2.0 I get a big hole with nothing in it.
Linux, fedora-9,11,12beta, i686 and x86_64 versions, on bare metal and virtual
machines. Worst of all it used to work on the dailies, I went to 2.0pre to help
test, and now going back to dailies doesn't work.
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Bill Davidsen <davi...@tmr.com>
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Barry Edwin Gilmour
> The third time is the charm, they say, can anyone suggest what
> configuration is needed to allow using TVguide.com/Listings? In SM
> 1.1.18 and Firefox 3.5.x if I click on a show name I get a synopsis.
> In 2.0 I get a big hole with nothing in it.
>
> Linux, fedora-9,11,12beta, i686 and x86_64 versions, on bare metal and
> virtual machines. Worst of all it used to work on the dailies, I went
> to 2.0pre to help test, and now going back to dailies doesn't work.
>
Lightning/1.0pre SeaMonkey/2.1a1pre ID:20091026003411
I get the same thing here in Australia, Bill. Nice big white-pane.
Page-info says the site is pretty-much all JavaScript, yet I've got my
JavaScript all enabled, along with cookies-permitted OK?
Stupid-question, but are you certain SM 1.1.18 and Firefox 3.5.x show a
synopsis OK?
OK. I just tried that in my local http://au.tv.yahoo.com/tv-guide/ site,
and it still opens the same type of synopsis OK (page = 110% JavaScript).
I reckon something in that page is not playing nicely with SM2+. Isn't
Fx-3.5 toolkit-based? That would seem to knock-out optimised-for XPFE
versus Toolkit arguments? Barry.
NoOp
> The third time is the charm, they say, can anyone suggest what
> configuration is needed to allow using TVguide.com/Listings? In SM
> 1.1.18 and Firefox 3.5.x if I click on a show name I get a synopsis.
> In 2.0 I get a big hole with nothing in it.
>
> Linux, fedora-9,11,12beta, i686 and x86_64 versions, on bare metal
> and virtual machines. Worst of all it used to work on the dailies, I
> went to 2.0pre to help test, and now going back to dailies doesn't
> work.
>
Perhaps you mean 'nightlies'? In any event, it works for me on 2.0pre
and 2.0rc2 (32bit) linux Ubuntu 9.04 and 9.10.
NoOp
Barry, that link is a different site altogether. That said, your site &
link (http://au.tv.yahoo.com/tv-guide/) works just fine all the way from
here (California). The link shows:
<quote>
Yahoo!7 TV Guide: Australian television listings for all free to air tv
channels plus Foxtel, Optus and Austar in every region of Australia.
View details of each programme or search for specific tv shows.
We did not find any TV Guide results here
Try the suggestions below or type a new query above.
Suggestions:
* Check your spelling.
* Try more general words.
* Try different words that mean the same thing.
* Broaden your search by using fewer words.
* If you're looking for a TV show try browsing the tv guide listings
for its time slot.
</quote>
But I suspect that's a Yahoo issue rather than a SeaMonkey issue.
Tested with:
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.3) Gecko/20090824
Firefox/3.5.3
Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.5pre)
Gecko/20091026 Lightning/1.0pre SeaMonkey/2.0.1pre
Note to Phillip Jones via the "SM 2.0 RC2: will modal window for
About:SeaMonkey return?" thread; thank goodness for SM tabs so that I
don't have to load multiple windows to check :-)
Barry Edwin Gilmour
http://au.tv.yahoo.com/tv-guide/?hour=12&min=24&date=27&mon=10&year=2009
Did it open the TV-guide for Sydney-AU, which is what I intended?
If so, click-on any show-name in the schedule to-open the pane detailing
the show/movie/etcetera.
It should open a pane with all the information, but if it only-opens a
white-pane in the page like what Bill is getting, then it's also not
working, and presumably is something like bad JavaScript in the page.
Bill Davidsen
summary of the program for the day. In SM 2.0-RC2build3 you get a big blank
hole. I'm not sure how Yahoo! got involved with www.tvguide.com/Listings, local
DNS replacement or something?
> Tested with:
>
> Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.3) Gecko/20090824
> Firefox/3.5.3
>
> Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.5pre)
> Gecko/20091026 Lightning/1.0pre SeaMonkey/2.0.1pre
>
> Note to Phillip Jones via the "SM 2.0 RC2: will modal window for
> About:SeaMonkey return?" thread; thank goodness for SM tabs so that I
> don't have to load multiple windows to check :-)
You have Lightning and a version other than what I got when I downloaded the
binary from the Mozilla site. I have:
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.4) Gecko/20091017 SeaMonkey/2.0
and no updates available. I'm guessing you are running a daily of some origin.
However, I think it's a config issue, rather than a missing feature, so I wish
someone could pass out a clue.
NoOp
> NoOp wrote:
...
>> But I suspect that's a Yahoo issue rather than a SeaMonkey issue.
>>
> Click on the name of a show, in Firefox 3.5.x and Seamonkey 1.1.18 you get a
> summary of the program for the day. In SM 2.0-RC2build3 you get a big blank
> hole. I'm not sure how Yahoo! got involved with www.tvguide.com/Listings, local
> DNS replacement or something?
>
>> Tested with:
>>
>> Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.3) Gecko/20090824
>> Firefox/3.5.3
>>
>> Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.5pre)
>> Gecko/20091026 Lightning/1.0pre SeaMonkey/2.0.1pre
>>
>> Note to Phillip Jones via the "SM 2.0 RC2: will modal window for
>> About:SeaMonkey return?" thread; thank goodness for SM tabs so that I
>> don't have to load multiple windows to check :-)
>
> You have Lightning and a version other than what I got when I downloaded the
> binary from the Mozilla site. I have:
>
> Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.4) Gecko/20091017 SeaMonkey/2.0
>
> and no updates available. I'm guessing you are running a daily of some origin.
> However, I think it's a config issue, rather than a missing feature, so I wish
> someone could pass out a clue.
It's a browser sniffer issue.
I tried 1.1.18 (windows and linux) and 2.0pre and 2.0 final (rc2) and
got the white blank that you are referring to. In Firefox 3.5.3 (windows
and linux) I had no issues.
So, using prefbar I added a Firefox (linux) UA:
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.3) Gecko/20090824
Firefox/3.5.3
and checked again in 1.1.18 and 2.0(pre and final) and the site
displayed listings just fine.
In 2.0 (linux) I even have it showing the listings in one tab w/the Fx
UA, and then switched to a different window & tab, turned off the Fx UA
and that one is showing the blanks.
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.4) Gecko/20091017
Lightning/1.0pre SeaMonkey/2.0
Bill Davidsen
http://blogs.tmr.com/~davidsen/Private/TVguide-SM2.0-fix.html
It's manual (no extensions needed), it still says SeaMonkey (truth in
advertising), and it disavows being Firefox. What more can I ask?
Neil
> Okay, until TVguide fixes their stupid browser evil, my solution:
> http://blogs.tmr.com/~davidsen/Private/TVguide-SM2.0-fix.html
>
> It's manual (no extensions needed), it still says SeaMonkey (truth in
> advertising), and it disavows being Firefox. What more can I ask?
That it keeps up with your SeaMonkey version :-)
Add a new string preference general.useragent.extra.notFirefox perhaps ;-)
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NoOp
> NoOp wrote:
...
>>
>>
>> I tried 1.1.18 (windows and linux) and 2.0pre and 2.0 final (rc2) and
>> got the white blank that you are referring to. In Firefox 3.5.3 (windows
>> and linux) I had no issues.
>>
>> So, using prefbar I added a Firefox (linux) UA:
>> Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.3) Gecko/20090824
>> Firefox/3.5.3
>> and checked again in 1.1.18 and 2.0(pre and final) and the site
>> displayed listings just fine.
>> In 2.0 (linux) I even have it showing the listings in one tab w/the Fx
>> UA, and then switched to a different window & tab, turned off the Fx UA
>> and that one is showing the blanks.
>>
>> Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.4) Gecko/20091017
>> Lightning/1.0pre SeaMonkey/2.0
>>
> Okay, until TVguide fixes their stupid browser evil, my solution:
> http://blogs.tmr.com/~davidsen/Private/TVguide-SM2.0-fix.html
>
> It's manual (no extensions needed), it still says SeaMonkey (truth in
> advertising), and it disavows being Firefox. What more can I ask?
>
In the past we've found using:
"general.useragent.extra.firefox"
and
NOT Firefox/<version>
to work well in nearly all situations.
I can't recall the thread where we tested this, but that seemed to work
well. Note that the "only" string you need to put in
general.useragent.extra.firefox is the 'NOT Firefox/<version>' bit & it
will automatically insert it in the right location. Example from the one
I just added:
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.4) Gecko/20091017 NOT
Firefox/3.0 Lightning/1.0pre SeaMonkey/2.0
If I reset (remove the 'NOT Firefox/3.0') from the
general.useragent.extra.firefox, I return to:
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.4) Gecko/20091017
Lightning/1.0pre SeaMonkey/2.0
Now: anyone know how to easily remove an added Preference from
about:config without having to edit prefs.js?
Hartmut Figge
>Now: anyone know how to easily remove an added Preference from
>about:config without having to edit prefs.js?
I have just tested. Created three Prefs with about:config, one string,
one number and one boolean. Restarted my SM2 and they were there. Then
'reset' for each of the Prefs and after restarting SM2 they were gone.
Hartmut
NoOp
That did the trick - thanks Hartmut!