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SeaMonkey 1.1.7 candidate builds - please help testing!

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Robert Kaiser

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Nov 20, 2007, 11:33:21 AM11/20/07
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Hi all,

You might have noticed recent posts about a Firtefox 2.0.0.10 being in
the works (<http://quality.mozilla.org/en/node/920>) and a test day for
that stability and security release
(<http://quality.mozilla.org/en/node/919>) and wondered if we'll do a
SeaMonkey 1.1.7 in sync with it.

And yes, you're right, we're planning to do this SeaMonkey 1.1.7 in sync
with the Firefox update, planned for next week (see
<http://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox:2.0.0.10:Test_Plan#Schedule> for their
schedule).

A number of bugs will be fixed in this release, most notable we also
hope to have fixed the problems with launching SeaMonkey from read-only
installations, just like a Mac Disk Image.

Our candidate builds are now available at
http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/nightly/candidates-1.1.7/
and we need your help to get good testing of them on all major platforms
before release.

Please help us with this testing so we can have a good SeaMonkey 1.1.7
release!

If you can do some smoketesting, please go to
<http://litmus.mozilla.org/> and do a SeaMonkey 1.1 test run
(<http://litmus.mozilla.org/run_tests.cgi?test_run_id=11>). For further
questions, stop by on IRC in #seamonkey, and ask our QA head ajschult or
other people around there who should know what can/should/needs to be
tested.


Thanks for your help,

Robert Kaiser
SeaMonkey Council member

Graham

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Nov 20, 2007, 3:53:24 PM11/20/07
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Robert Kaiser wrote:
> Please help us with this testing so we can have a good SeaMonkey 1.1.7
> release!

No release notes yet (404 "We're sorry, but we can't find what you're
looking for"). Other than that, no obvious problems so far.

Graham.

Geoff Welsh

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Nov 20, 2007, 4:08:10 PM11/20/07
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Robert Kaiser wrote:

>
> Our candidate builds are now available at
> http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/nightly/candidates-1.1.7/
> and we need your help to get good testing of them on all major platforms
> before release.
>
> Please help us with this testing so we can have a good SeaMonkey 1.1.7
> release!

runs fine here on OSX v10.4.11

thanks, KaiRo!
GW

Robert Kaiser

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Nov 20, 2007, 6:45:01 PM11/20/07
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Yes, I still need to create those. Thanks for reminding me.

Robert Kaiser

Edward

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Nov 20, 2007, 8:10:45 PM11/20/07
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Testing out the release candidate for Linux. No problems to report. :)

dominique

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Nov 21, 2007, 8:30:04 AM11/21/07
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running on WinXP, several POP and Imap accounts, IRC,...
Nothing to report so far, after half a day !

Dominique

Robert Kaiser

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Nov 27, 2007, 12:01:23 PM11/27/07
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Hi,

> Please help us with this testing so we can have a good SeaMonkey 1.1.7
> release!

Unfortunately, all Firefox and SeaMonkey testing did not reveal a
regression in canvas code (known one-line-fix forgotten to be included
in the code), we needed Firefox 2.0.0.10 to be in the wild for a few
hours to spot this. Nothing as bad as the last time something like that
happened, but still annoying enough.

As we caught it just the moment I wanted to move SeaMonkey files to
public, we'll respin builds and hope to get really fast QA to still
release this week, as it's already public that we have those three
vulnerabilities in 1.1.6:
http://www.mozilla.org/projects/security/known-vulnerabilities.html#seamonkey1.1.7

If you personally want to be on the safe side and don't need canvas
functionality, you probably should use the 1.1.7 candidates, but be
aware that they'll be replaced with new builds very soon. I'll announce
that here again when it's done.

Robert Kaiser

Jens Hatlak

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Nov 27, 2007, 1:27:33 PM11/27/07
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Robert Kaiser wrote:
> As we caught it just the moment I wanted to move SeaMonkey files to
> public, we'll respin builds and hope to get really fast QA to still
> release this week, as it's already public that we have those three
> vulnerabilities in 1.1.6:
> http://www.mozilla.org/projects/security/known-vulnerabilities.html#seamonkey1.1.7

I guess you won't wait for bug 376976, then? Just a question; I don't
know about the impact. I only saw it was checked in on trunk and read a
comment about it being prepared for branch.

Greetings,

Jens

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SeaMonkey Trunk Tracker <http://smtt.blogspot.com/>

Jose

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Nov 27, 2007, 2:22:30 PM11/27/07
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> Unfortunately, all Firefox and SeaMonkey testing did not reveal a regression in canvas code

What is regression in canvas code? Was Michaelangelo a cryptographer too?

Jose

Robert Kaiser

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Nov 27, 2007, 2:57:53 PM11/27/07
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<canvas> is a HTML5 element we've implemented for some time now.

Robert Kaiser

Robert Kaiser

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Nov 27, 2007, 2:59:24 PM11/27/07
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Jens Hatlak wrote:
> Robert Kaiser wrote:
>> As we caught it just the moment I wanted to move SeaMonkey files to
>> public, we'll respin builds and hope to get really fast QA to still
>> release this week, as it's already public that we have those three
>> vulnerabilities in 1.1.6:
>> http://www.mozilla.org/projects/security/known-vulnerabilities.html#seamonkey1.1.7
>
> I guess you won't wait for bug 376976, then? Just a question; I don't
> know about the impact. I only saw it was checked in on trunk and read a
> comment about it being prepared for branch.

No, that's not on the radar. We won't unpackage the whole release
process, we'll add that one regression fix and be done. The bug you
mentioned hasn't even requested SeaMonkey approval yet.

Robert Kaiser

Peter Weilbacher

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Nov 27, 2007, 3:42:42 PM11/27/07
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On 27.11.07 18:01, Robert Kaiser wrote:

> As we caught it just the moment I wanted to move SeaMonkey files to
> public, we'll respin builds

If the canvas problem is really the only one that will be fixed by the
respin, you can still use the OS/2 builds that I have already emailed
you about because those are built without SVG and Canvas.

Peter.

P.S.: Is it not "respun"?

Philip Chee

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Nov 28, 2007, 3:36:53 AM11/28/07
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On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 21:42:42 +0100, Peter Weilbacher wrote:
> On 27.11.07 18:01, Robert Kaiser wrote:

> P.S.: Is it not "respun"?

I think that verbs are conjugated differently in German.

Phil

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Michael Wolf

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Nov 28, 2007, 4:36:35 AM11/28/07
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Philip Chee napisa:

> On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 21:42:42 +0100, Peter Weilbacher wrote:
>> On 27.11.07 18:01, Robert Kaiser wrote:
>
>> P.S.: Is it not "respun"?
>
> I think that verbs are conjugated differently in German.

No, it's similar. A direct equivalent for "respin" doesn't exist, but
for "spin". The German equivalent is "spinnen". Both the English and the
German verb are strong verbs:

English: spin - spun (also span) - spun
German: spinnen - spann - gesponnen

respinned is a form of a weak verb which is wrong here.

Robert Kaiser

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Nov 28, 2007, 10:33:31 AM11/28/07
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Peter Weilbacher wrote:
> P.S.: Is it not "respun"?

Whatever. Redone. :p

Robert Kaiser

Ricardo Palomares Martinez

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Nov 28, 2007, 3:32:00 PM11/28/07
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Robert Kaiser escribió:

> Peter Weilbacher wrote:
>> P.S.: Is it not "respun"?
>
> Whatever. Redone. :p
>

LOL! :-)

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If it's true that we are here to help others,
then what exactly are the OTHERS here for?

Robert Kaiser

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Nov 28, 2007, 6:27:45 PM11/28/07
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>> Please help us with this testing so we can have a good SeaMonkey 1.1.7
>> release!
>
> Unfortunately, all Firefox and SeaMonkey testing did not reveal a
> regression in canvas code (known one-line-fix forgotten to be included
> in the code), we needed Firefox 2.0.0.10 to be in the wild for a few
> hours to spot this. Nothing as bad as the last time something like that
> happened, but still annoying enough.

We have new builds up at
http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/nightly/candidates-1.1.7/

PLEASE help us testing them, so we can ship the release very soon now!

We already know we have those 3 vulnerabilities out in the wild with the
current stable version, which are fixed in this new SeaMonkey 1.1.7:
http://www.mozilla.org/projects/security/known-vulnerabilities.html#seamonkey1.1.7

In comparison with the last candidates, we additionally took a fix for
the <canvas> regression that forced the Firefox team to prepare a
2.0.0.11 release, and another small fix that makes our builds launch
correctly again from Mac disk images.

Release notes are prepared on
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey1.1.7/ already and
contain a fully list of fixed bugs in this release.

If you can do some smoketesting, please go to
<http://litmus.mozilla.org/> and do a SeaMonkey 1.1 test run
(<http://litmus.mozilla.org/run_tests.cgi?test_run_id=11>). For further
questions, stop by on IRC in #seamonkey, and ask our QA head ajschult or
other people around there who should know what can/should/needs to be
tested.

Robert Kaiser
SeaMonkey Council member

Rick

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Nov 28, 2007, 7:50:27 PM11/28/07
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What I can tell you is that 1.1.7 is very unstable. It totally crashed
by test computer to the point I had to do a clean install.

Rick

Ed Mullen

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Nov 28, 2007, 8:15:46 PM11/28/07
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Robert, if any of the devs have Comcast as their ISP please ask them to
email Comcast about their broken browser sniffing on their new
http://comcast.net page. It sees SM as not Firefox or any other
acceptable browser and redirects to a "Upgrade your browser" page. I've
emailed them a couple days ago but it still is broken. This started
happening after Comcast changed their home page but coincided with SM 1.1.6.

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Edward

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Nov 28, 2007, 8:59:21 PM11/28/07
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Ed Mullen wrote:

> Robert, if any of the devs have Comcast as their ISP please ask them to
> email Comcast about their broken browser sniffing on their new
> http://comcast.net page. It sees SM as not Firefox or any other
> acceptable browser and redirects to a "Upgrade your browser" page. I've
> emailed them a couple days ago but it still is broken. This started
> happening after Comcast changed their home page but coincided with SM
> 1.1.6.

Ed,

I have provided some information to Comcast, they are aware of it. But
as of this evening, I am still getting that browser upgrade page. :(

Edward

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Nov 28, 2007, 9:00:54 PM11/28/07
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Rich Gray

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Nov 29, 2007, 12:15:06 AM11/29/07
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Robert Kaiser wrote:
>>> Please help us with this testing so we can have a good SeaMonkey
>>> 1.1.7 release!

Passed all, Mac OS X 10.5.1, Intel (executing out of a dmg, too!)


BTW, it's SeaMonkey 1.1.7 Reloaded. :)

--
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SeaMonkey - Surfing the net has never been so suite!

dominique

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Nov 29, 2007, 4:14:04 AM11/29/07
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Robert Kaiser wrote:
>>> Please help us with this testing so we can have a good SeaMonkey
>>> 1.1.7 release!

Hi Robert,

Works fine here with WinXP SP2, used with number of IMAP and
POP3 mail account, using IRC and Chatzilla,
No issue to report after a few hours use.

Dominique

dominique

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Nov 29, 2007, 4:14:26 AM11/29/07
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Robert Kaiser wrote:
>>> Please help us with this testing so we can have a good SeaMonkey
>>> 1.1.7 release!

Hi Robert,

Edward

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Nov 29, 2007, 11:50:10 AM11/29/07
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Robert Kaiser wrote:
>>> Please help us with this testing so we can have a good SeaMonkey
>>> 1.1.7 release!

No issues to report with the Linux version.

NoOp

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Nov 29, 2007, 11:27:18 PM11/29/07
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Robert,

Why is it you always cross post these in the mozilla.support.seamonkey
group with followups set to mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey?

I am sure that mozilla.support.seamonkey users may be willing to give
the build(s) a try & possibly even perform smoketesting (I've done so in
the past for most versions), but many mozilla.support.seamonkey users
may not even be subscribed to mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey.

Please if you are to cross post the announcements, also notify
mozilla.support.seamonkey users that they should subscribe to
mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey in order to read and/or continue any posts to
the thread.
That said, are you sure that you actually want
mozilla.support.seamonkey users over on the mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey
group simply for reports regarding a new build test request? Perhaps a
separate mozilla.support.seamonkey might be a better idea?

Followup to this post set to: mozilla.support.seamonkey

Robert Kaiser

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Nov 30, 2007, 10:19:12 AM11/30/07
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NoOp wrote:
> Why is it you always cross post these in the mozilla.support.seamonkey
> group with followups set to mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey?

Because netiquette says that it's bad to post without a followup to a
single group.

mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey is for development and testing, while
mozilla.support.seamonkey is for end-user support. End users should be
notified that there are testing versions, but testers should always use
the dev group for test feedback, as everything but actually released
builds are development builds of some kind.

You might noticed that release announcements go the other way, with
followup set to the support group.

Robert Kaiser

NoOp

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Nov 30, 2007, 9:10:05 PM11/30/07
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Thanks. However, in the future for users that are not subscribed to the
dev group, I'd suggest an added reminder notifying


mozilla.support.seamonkey users that they should subscribe to
mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey in order to read and/or continue any posts to
the thread.

Downloading 1.1.7 now - sorry for the delay in testing, I've been
configuring new machines the past few days.

Gary

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