SeaMonkey 2.0 Beta 1 Previews the Next Generation
Robert Kaiser
SeaMonkey team even more thrilled to announce SeaMonkey 2.0 Beta 1,
previewing the next generation of the successful Internet suite.
Building on the great heritage of the Netscape Communicator and Mozilla
Application suites, SeaMonkey 2.0 Beta 1 combines a state-of-the-art web
browser based on the same core as Firefox 3.5.1 with a solid email and
newsgroups client and a simple HTML editor, rounding the experience with
web development tools and IRC chat.
In addition to the changes in the alpha releases, this version features:
- the same browser core and web feature support as Firefox 3.5.1,
- a reworked download manager, including support for cross-session
resumable downloads,
- localized builds - Windows/Linux/Mac packages are available in 15
languages officially (2 additional are experimental) from day 1,
- feed preview and improved feed subscription from the browser,
- fully customizable mail/news toolbars,
- mail archiving support,
- and a lot of other, smaller improvements.
The release notes include a detailed list of improvements in comparison
to SeaMonkey 1.1.17, our current stable release.
We welcome any and all discussions on this beta on our newsgroups, or
you can even file a bug if you find one. Be sure to check our known
issues prior to filing bugs.
SeaMonkey 2.0 Beta 1 is available for free download on the SeaMonkey
website. Once you have downloaded and installed this release, we'd like
to encourage you to get involved in discussing and reporting problems as
well as further improving the product.
Thanks for testing and helping us to make SeaMonkey even better!
Full news article:
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/news#2009-07-21
Release notes:
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.0b1
Downloads for all available platforms and languages:
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.0b1
System Requirements:
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/2.0/system-requirements
Newsgroups: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/community#groups
File a bug: http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/enter_bug.cgi?format=guided
Get Involved: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/dev/get-involved
Robert Kaiser
SeaMonkey project coordinator
David Wilkinson
> It took a bit longer than previously expected, but that fact makes the
> SeaMonkey team even more thrilled to announce SeaMonkey 2.0 Beta 1,
> previewing the next generation of the successful Internet suite.
Robert:
Great!
Do we have to uninstall Alpha 3 before installing Beta 1? (This is on Windows 7
RC, with no SeaMonkey 1.x installed.)
--
David Wilkinson
Mark Hansen
> It took a bit longer than previously expected, but that fact makes the
> SeaMonkey team even more thrilled to announce SeaMonkey 2.0 Beta 1,
> previewing the next generation of the successful Internet suite.
Congratulations on such a wonderful accomplishment, Robert!
Best Regards to you and the entire SM team!
nr
not mess with SeaMonkey 1.1.17, and the browsing seems to work OK, but
I cannot import my SM 1.1.17 mail. The import options do not include
this. Is there a way for me to do this as I've installed it or do I
have to install it to the same folder as 1.1.17?
Thank you for your help.
Nairda
Has anyone else tried successfully to use MozBackup (latest version) to
load profiles into SM 2.0b1?
I tried twice last night to load my 3 profiles into SM 2.0b1 (US
English), with no success, and ended up rolling my system back both
times. MozBackup didn't/couldn't see my backups at all after 2.0b1 was
installed. The only profile that was available was "default". I have
three named; "Nairda1", "Nairda2" and "Nairda3". But none named "default".
Any advice gratefully appreciated.
PS. For the short time I did use 2.0b1, it was fast, stable, and more
than lived up to the high standards we have all come to expect from SM.
-Nairda
Robert Kaiser
> Do we have to uninstall Alpha 3 before installing Beta 1? (This is on
> Windows 7 RC, with no SeaMonkey 1.x installed.)
Just use Help > Check for Updates... and you shouldn't need to uninstall
anything.
Robert Kaiser
Frank Wein
Normally it should import your complete SeaMonkey 1.x profile on the
first launch of a SeaMonkey 2 build. Did it for example import your
bookmarks? Were the mail accounts imported but not the mails? Currently
it can happen that SeaMonkey 2.0b1 cannot find the mails SeaMonkey 1.x
is using. This can happen when you (for example) renamed your Windows
user account or renamed your SeaMonkey profile. The bug for this is
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=452465, currently it looks
like this bug is a bit difficult to fix. I'll post a workaround on the
bug or here if needed.
Frank
Frank Wein
[...]
> Has anyone else tried successfully to use MozBackup (latest version) to
> load profiles into SM 2.0b1?
>
> I tried twice last night to load my 3 profiles into SM 2.0b1 (US
> English), with no success, and ended up rolling my system back both
> times. MozBackup didn't/couldn't see my backups at all after 2.0b1 was
> installed. The only profile that was available was "default". I have
> three named; "Nairda1", "Nairda2" and "Nairda3". But none named "default".
>
> Any advice gratefully appreciated.
>
> PS. For the short time I did use 2.0b1, it was fast, stable, and more
> than lived up to the high standards we have all come to expect from SM.
>
> -Nairda
See
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_migration_-_SeaMonkey#SeaMonkey_2_profile_migration
if you have multiple SeaMonkey 1.x profiles you want to import. I'm not
sure if MozBackup already supports SeaMonkey 2.0b1 (although the website
says it does ;)
Frank
Tobias Fischer
> Robert Kaiser wrote:
>> It took a bit longer than previously expected, but that fact makes the
>> SeaMonkey team even more thrilled to announce SeaMonkey 2.0 Beta 1,
>> previewing the next generation of the successful Internet suite.
>
> I may have missed it but I never saw a link for the .zip file. Is
> there one?
The .zip-Builds are still available, but not officially announced,
because they might be not useful for user with less knowledge.
So there is no Download-Link on the Release-Page, you have to take a
look into the Download-Mirrors.
Tobias
Daniel Kies
Thanks to all of the SeaMonkey developers. Your work is much
appreciated by many.
Niels Peter Hansen
I don't know if this is a bug or supposed to be like this, but I'm being
prompted three times for my master password before anything will start.
To me this pretty much removes the advantage of having a master password ...
This happens whether I start out with the browser or with MailNews ...
Niels Peter
Robert Kaiser
> I don't know if this is a bug or supposed to be like this, but I'm being
> prompted three times for my master password before anything will start.
> To me this pretty much removes the advantage of having a master password
> ...
You checked the "known issues" on the release notes, right? ;-)
Robert kaiser
NoOp
...
>
> I don't know if this is a bug or supposed to be like this, but I'm being
> prompted three times for my master password before anything will start.
> To me this pretty much removes the advantage of having a master password ...
> This happens whether I start out with the browser or with MailNews ...
>
> Niels Peter
It's a bug:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=master+password
There are several interrelated bugs so I'm not sure which should be
quoted as 'the' bug anymore, but these will give you an idea of the
issue(s):
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=414047
[master password prompt for every mail account on every SWF page load]
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=338549
[Mailnews account password prompts at startup no longer serial]
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=419354
[constant annoying master password prompts]
Currently the only workaround (not an acceptable one IMO) is to turn off
Master Passwords.
Niels Peter Hansen
My bad - I did look, but not closely enough, obviously :-(
Niels Peter
Jens Hatlak
> On 07/22/2009 09:26 AM, Niels Peter Hansen wrote:
>> I don't know if this is a bug or supposed to be like this, but I'm being
>> prompted three times for my master password before anything will start.
>> To me this pretty much removes the advantage of having a master password ...
>> This happens whether I start out with the browser or with MailNews ...
>
> Master Passwords.
No, there's a better one:
1. disable opening MailNews on startup (Edit/Preferences/Appearance)
2. enable checking for new mail only after opening MailNews
(Edit/Preferences/Mail & Newsgroups)
3. trigger the Master Password prompt (Tools/Password Manager/Manage
Stored Passwords or visiting a site for which login data is stored)
4. now open MailNews.
HTH
Jens
--
Jens Hatlak <http://jens.hatlak.de/>
SeaMonkey Trunk Tracker <http://smtt.blogspot.com/>
Nairda
Has anyone else tried successfully to use MozBackup (latest version) to
load profiles into SM 2.0b1?
I tried twice last night to load my 3 profiles into SM 2.0b1 (US
English), with no success, and ended up rolling my system back both
times. MozBackup didn't/couldn't see my backups at all after 2.0b1 was
installed. The only profile that was available was "default". I have
three named; "Nairda1", "Nairda2" and "Nairda3". But none named "default".
Any advice gratefully appreciated.
PS. For the short time I did use 2.0b1, it was fast, stable, and more
than lived up to the high standards we have all come to expect from SM.
-Nairda
SM 1.1.17
Vista Home Basic
ChatZilla 0.9.75
Linky
Roaming
Reporter.Mozilla.org
Image Zoom
MultiZilla 1.8.3.4e
NoOp
> NoOp wrote:
>> On 07/22/2009 09:26 AM, Niels Peter Hansen wrote:
>>> I don't know if this is a bug or supposed to be like this, but I'm being
>>> prompted three times for my master password before anything will start.
>>> To me this pretty much removes the advantage of having a master password ...
>>> This happens whether I start out with the browser or with MailNews ...
>>
>> Currently the only workaround (not an acceptable one IMO) is to turn off
>> Master Passwords.
>
> No, there's a better one:
> 1. disable opening MailNews on startup (Edit/Preferences/Appearance)
> 2. enable checking for new mail only after opening MailNews
> (Edit/Preferences/Mail & Newsgroups)
> 3. trigger the Master Password prompt (Tools/Password Manager/Manage
> Stored Passwords or visiting a site for which login data is stored)
> 4. now open MailNews.
>
> HTH
I wish it did... but trying that (IMO) is worse than entering the
password on the first prompt & canceling the others afterwards. But
thanks anyway :-)
Reason being is that when I start SM in the morning I want to do two
things; open my mail and open my browser - all at once. My open command
is: seamonkey -noremote -mail browser
As you know, 2.0 doesn't respect the '-mail browser' order and opens the
browser window first, so I still need to move my 'mail' panel tab left
of the browser panel tab. But that's easy to do on Gnome/linux & I've
settled on that being a 'nag' bug.
The Master Password bug, is (again IMO) a "showstopper" bug that will
need to be resolved prior to 2.0 going production. Commercial users
simply won't tolerate having to cancel multiple Master Password prompts
on opening SM & if they do use SM they'll resort to the less secure
method of not using an MP. I do so on this machine, but I run linux and
know that my machine is well protected (multiple routers, firewalls,
etc., etc. I still tolerate the MP popups on my laptops primarily
because, even though they are linux as well, I may not always have
control over the network that I connect to remotely.
But I'll not try to 'beat the horse to death' as I know SM folks are
working hard to resolve the issue, and from my understanding it's not an
easy one to fix.
@Niels Peter Hansen: Forgot to mention that you only need to enter your
MP on one of the prompts, you can then cancel the rest of the popups by
clicking the 'Cancel' button.
Note: I use '-noremote' so that I can open 1.1.1x for testing at the
same time as 2.0.
Rich Gray
have time to mess with it more, so haven't migrated. I need to
do that now, no more foolin with 1.x.
Congrats to the SeaMonkey team on this milestone!!!
--
Rich (Pull thorn from address to e-mail me.)
SeaMonkey - Surfing the net has never been so suite!
Robert Kaiser
> The bug for this is
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=452465, currently it looks
> like this bug is a bit difficult to fix.
It would be really good though if we found a possibility before final.
Robert Kaiser
Niels Peter Hansen
> We welcome any and all discussions on this beta on our newsgroups, or
> you can even file a bug if you find one. Be sure to check our known
> issues prior to filing bugs.
>
> SeaMonkey 2.0 Beta 1 is available for free download on the SeaMonkey
> website. Once you have downloaded and installed this release, we'd like
> to encourage you to get involved in discussing and reporting problems as
> well as further improving the product.
>
> Thanks for testing and helping us to make SeaMonkey even better!
So far I haven't experienced any problems other than the
multiple-prompts-for-masterpassword-thingy.
On the contrary it feels as if the browser is a bit faster than Firefox
(can't be true or?).
And the password managing (once you've done your three master passwords)
definitely works better than in Firefox - it recognizes more log-in
pages as such than Firefox.
Niels Peter
Philip Chee
> So far I haven't experienced any problems other than the
> multiple-prompts-for-masterpassword-thingy.
> On the contrary it feels as if the browser is a bit faster than Firefox
> (can't be true or?).
I don't think so. We use exactly the same gecko engine as Firefox 3.5.1.
However several people have claimed the same as you so there is
something mysterious happening, we just don't know what.
> And the password managing (once you've done your three master passwords)
> definitely works better than in Firefox - it recognizes more log-in
> pages as such than Firefox.
You're definitely imagining things since we use exactly the same
password manager as Firefox 3.5.1.
Phil
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Frank Wein
Ok, let's see, one workaround (yes, it's a bit complicated) goes like this:
0. Close SeaMonkey 2 and delete the SeaMonkey 2 profile (so it can
migrate again later). See
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_folder_-_SeaMonkey#SeaMonkey_2 for
where your SeaMonkey 2 profile is located.
1. Open SeaMonkey 1.x again and open the URL about:config
2. Also open MailNews in SeaMonkey 1.x and open the Account Manager
3. Type in "mail.server.server" in the filter field
4. Take a look at all preferences with the name
mail.server.serverX.directory (X being a number): Check if the path
there matches the path in the account manager (select any mail
account->Server Settings, Local Directory at the bottom of the window).
The important part of that path is for example (Windows 2k/XP/Vista)
this one C:\Documents and Settings\<Windows user name>\Application
Data\Mozilla\Profiles\<profile name>\********.slt. The part after
********.slt is account-specific and _should not be changed_. If the
path does not match, double-click on that preference and change the
first part of the path (so up to ********.slt) to the one that is
visible in the Account Manager.
5. Close SeaMonkey 1.x and open SeaMonkey 2 again to migrate your
profile. Now it should also import your mails.
Frank
Bill Davidsen
> NoOp wrote:
>> On 07/22/2009 09:26 AM, Niels Peter Hansen wrote:
>>> I don't know if this is a bug or supposed to be like this, but I'm
>>> being prompted three times for my master password before anything
>>> will start. To me this pretty much removes the advantage of having a
>>> master password ...
>>> This happens whether I start out with the browser or with MailNews ...
>>
>> Currently the only workaround (not an acceptable one IMO) is to turn off
>> Master Passwords.
>
> No, there's a better one:
> 1. disable opening MailNews on startup (Edit/Preferences/Appearance)
> 2. enable checking for new mail only after opening MailNews
> (Edit/Preferences/Mail & Newsgroups)
I feel really stupid, I can't find any such setting in that section. And editing
on the mailbox only offers YES/NO for check messages at startup, and nothing to
say "when I actually open the mail/news wandow" which is what you want.
The logic to avoid this is simple, but since it seems to be in shared code
there's no way to fix it unless the Tbird folks stop liking it the way it works.
There's an even worse one, if you cancel the master password it will then ask
for every news server password, bringing on the same flood of popups asking for
a news server password BUT IT DOESN'T TELL YOU WHICH NEWS SERVER SO YOU CAN'T
PROVIDE IT!! Sorry for yelling, but this is just terminally bad human
engineering, I have 4-5 news servers in most machines, several public, one ISP,
gmane and mozilla, so it's just frustrating. I posted about it some years ago
and was told to use the same password on all of them, which indicates a total
lack of security smarts.
> 3. trigger the Master Password prompt (Tools/Password Manager/Manage
> Stored Passwords or visiting a site for which login data is stored)
> 4. now open MailNews.
>
> HTH
>
> Jens
>
--
Bill Davidsen <davi...@tmr.com>
"We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot
NoOp
> Jens Hatlak wrote:
>> NoOp wrote:
>>> On 07/22/2009 09:26 AM, Niels Peter Hansen wrote:
>>>> I don't know if this is a bug or supposed to be like this, but I'm
>>>> being prompted three times for my master password before anything
>>>> will start. To me this pretty much removes the advantage of having a
>>>> master password ...
>>>> This happens whether I start out with the browser or with MailNews ...
>>>
>>> Currently the only workaround (not an acceptable one IMO) is to turn off
>>> Master Passwords.
>>
>> No, there's a better one:
>> 1. disable opening MailNews on startup (Edit/Preferences/Appearance)
>> 2. enable checking for new mail only after opening MailNews
>> (Edit/Preferences/Mail & Newsgroups)
>
> I feel really stupid, I can't find any such setting in that section. And editing
> on the mailbox only offers YES/NO for check messages at startup, and nothing to
> say "when I actually open the mail/news wandow" which is what you want.
>
> The logic to avoid this is simple, but since it seems to be in shared code
> there's no way to fix it unless the Tbird folks stop liking it the way it works.
I'd recommend cooling your jets a little. TB doen't have to deal with
the browser & mail fighting for startup and so the solution for TB 3.x
is simple: just ask for the Master Password on startup. At least that's
the way it works for:
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.1) Gecko/20090715
Lightning/1.0pre Thunderbird/3.0b3
The SeaMonkey folks are well aware of the issue and, as indicated by the
bug reports I've listed, realize that it needs to be fixed. Of course it
never hurts to politely poke the coals on occasion, but I figure the
best way to do that is to (again politely) add a note on at least
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=419354.
Given the recent security updates required for mozilla, I think that
this issue is even more critical than previously shown in the 2.0x
nightlies. If users tire of clicking the cancel popups & resort to
simply removing the Master Password/encryption it won't be long before
someone provides a crack to compromise unencrypted passwords in SM 2.x.
Personally I am unsure of just how secure MP is anyway, so the entire
issue may be mute if the encryption can be cracked anyway...
For now I don't use MP on my daily (well monitored) linux system. For
for my laptops I either leave it on and put up with the popups, or just
encrypt my entire ~/.mozilla folders with truecrypt to avoid the
problem. However, the average SM user won't know how the latter, and
likely will be using Windows, so it indeed does need to be fixed ASAP.
My business customers will not use 2.0x without the minimal protection
of MP + encryption & even with my small customer base, the effort to
switch them all over to truecrypted ~/.mozilla folders/directories is
far too much effort to bother with at this point.
If not fixed, I'll just move them over to more secure email clients &
be done with it. I predict that any corporations, government, health
industry, etc., SM users will do the same & SM will be left for
hobbists.
I do not state/predict the last comment lightly as I've *always*
advocated SM in my customer base over TB/Fx and other such combinations.
But in the end, I need to look afer my customers first.
So here's 'polite' poke in the coals/reminder/plea for getting this
fixed. If I can be of help to test I'm happy to do so; I can test on
linux (ubuntu 8.04 or 9.04), Windows winxppro or win2kPro. Devs can see
that I don't mind assisting from participation on other related bugs -
see: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=506638 for example.
Robert Kaiser
> The SeaMonkey folks are well aware of the issue and, as indicated by the
> bug reports I've listed, realize that it needs to be fixed. Of course it
> never hurts to politely poke the coals on occasion, but I figure the
> best way to do that is to (again politely) add a note on at least
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=419354.
It's true that we are well aware of this nasty problem but unfortunately
we don't have any clue on how to actually fix it, so bug comment "poking
the coals" can change that, only a patch can.
Robert Kaiser
Jens Hatlak
> Jens Hatlak wrote:
>> 2. enable checking for new mail only after opening MailNews
>> (Edit/Preferences/Mail & Newsgroups)
>
> I feel really stupid, I can't find any such setting in that section.
1. Open Edit/Preferences
2. Go to Mail & Newsgroups (the category itself)
3. Under General Settings, check Only check for new mail after opening
Mail & Newsgroups.
I didn't check if it's actually in SM2.0b1 but it should since it was
added through <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=450263> the
target milestone of which says seamonkey2.0b1.
> There's an even worse one, if you cancel the master password it will
> then ask for every news server password, bringing on the same flood of
> popups asking for a news server password BUT IT DOESN'T TELL YOU WHICH
> NEWS SERVER SO YOU CAN'T PROVIDE IT!! Sorry for yelling, but this is
> just terminally bad human engineering, I have 4-5 news servers in most
> machines, several public, one ISP, gmane and mozilla, so it's just
> frustrating.
That's <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=187406> (a similar
one exists for TB, no progress there either). It's marked as depending
on <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=66860> which is about
the same for status bar notifications. I agree with you, it has been
annoying me for years, too. Unfortunately these kind of things need to
be fixed in the MailNews backend. Only a few SM developers have enough
knowledge to make such changes and those are busy fixing/reviewing more
pressing issues for SM 2.0. Chances are it'll be fixed by some TB
developer eventually, after all they're the most active MailNews backend
developers...
Peter Weilbacher
I don't have a clue about the bug quotes above, either, but to work around
the multiple-master-password-requests-at-startup one can force one to come
up during app initialization. This was added to TB in bug 501212 and I copied
the same trick to Sunbird in bug 483582.
Just in case you haven't see this...
Cheers,
Peter.
P.S.: Or have you not ported this on purpose, hoping that someone gets so
annoyed eventually that he will implements a real solution?
Robert Kaiser
> I don't have a clue about the bug quotes above, either, but to work around
> the multiple-master-password-requests-at-startup one can force one to come
> up during app initialization. This was added to TB in bug 501212 and I copied
> the same trick to Sunbird in bug 483582.
I know, but it's also unfriendly to put up the dialog when someone just
opens the browser to see a random non-login website. Unfortunately,
that's what the suite is confronted with...
Robert Kaiser
Peter Weilbacher
In that case one can still press cancel and not waste time with the
master password. Unfriendly, yes, but less of an annoyance than the
multiple prompts.
Peter.
Bill Davidsen
> On 8/10/2009 4:17 AM Bill Davidsen wrote:
>> Jens Hatlak wrote:
>>> 1. disable opening MailNews on startup (Edit/Preferences/Appearance)
>>> 2. enable checking for new mail only after opening MailNews
>>> (Edit/Preferences/Mail & Newsgroups)
>>
>> I feel really stupid, I can't find any such setting in that section.
>
> 1. Open Edit/Preferences
> 2. Go to Mail & Newsgroups (the category itself)
> 3. Under General Settings, check Only check for new mail after opening
> Mail & Newsgroups.
>
dailies as well.
> I didn't check if it's actually in SM2.0b1 but it should since it was
> added through <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=450263> the
> target milestone of which says seamonkey2.0b1.
>
>> There's an even worse one, if you cancel the master password it will
>> then ask for every news server password, bringing on the same flood of
>> popups asking for a news server password BUT IT DOESN'T TELL YOU WHICH
>> NEWS SERVER SO YOU CAN'T PROVIDE IT!! Sorry for yelling, but this is
>> just terminally bad human engineering, I have 4-5 news servers in most
>> machines, several public, one ISP, gmane and mozilla, so it's just
>> frustrating.
>
> That's <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=187406> (a similar
> one exists for TB, no progress there either). It's marked as depending
> on <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=66860> which is about
> the same for status bar notifications. I agree with you, it has been
> annoying me for years, too. Unfortunately these kind of things need to
> be fixed in the MailNews backend. Only a few SM developers have enough
> knowledge to make such changes and those are busy fixing/reviewing more
> pressing issues for SM 2.0. Chances are it'll be fixed by some TB
> developer eventually, after all they're the most active MailNews backend
> developers...
>
> HTH
>
> Jens
>
--
NoOp
> On 8/10/2009 4:17 AM Bill Davidsen wrote:
>> Jens Hatlak wrote:
>>> 1. disable opening MailNews on startup (Edit/Preferences/Appearance)
>>> 2. enable checking for new mail only after opening MailNews
>>> (Edit/Preferences/Mail & Newsgroups)
>>
>> I feel really stupid, I can't find any such setting in that section.
>
> 1. Open Edit/Preferences
> 2. Go to Mail & Newsgroups (the category itself)
> 3. Under General Settings, check Only check for new mail after opening
> Mail & Newsgroups.
>
> I didn't check if it's actually in SM2.0b1 but it should since it was
> added through <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=450263> the
> target milestone of which says seamonkey2.0b1.
Doesn't make any difference for me. The MP popups still occur with an MP
set.
Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.1pre)
Gecko/20090717 SeaMonkey/2.0b1
Rich Gray
> Rich Gray wrote:
>> Frank Wein wrote:
>>> nr wrote:
>>>> I installed this version to a new folder in my Program Files so as to
>>>> not mess with SeaMonkey 1.1.17, and the browsing seems to work OK, but
>>>
>>> Normally it should import your complete SeaMonkey 1.x profile on the
>>> first launch of a SeaMonkey 2 build. Did it for example import your
>>> bookmarks? Were the mail accounts imported but not the mails? Currently
>>> it can happen that SeaMonkey 2.0b1 cannot find the mails SeaMonkey 1.x
>>> is using. This can happen when you (for example) renamed your Windows
>>> user account or renamed your SeaMonkey profile. The bug for this is
>>> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=452465, currently it looks
>>> like this bug is a bit difficult to fix. I'll post a workaround on the
>>> bug or here if needed.
>>>
>
> 0. Close SeaMonkey 2 and delete the SeaMonkey 2 profile (so it can
> migrate again later). See
> http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_folder_-_SeaMonkey#SeaMonkey_2 for
> where your SeaMonkey 2 profile is located.
> 1. Open SeaMonkey 1.x again and open the URL about:config
> 2. Also open MailNews in SeaMonkey 1.x and open the Account Manager
> 3. Type in "mail.server.server" in the filter field
> 4. Take a look at all preferences with the name
> mail.server.serverX.directory (X being a number): Check if the path
> there matches the path in the account manager (select any mail
> account->Server Settings, Local Directory at the bottom of the window).
> The important part of that path is for example (Windows 2k/XP/Vista)
> this one C:\Documents and Settings\<Windows user name>\Application
> Data\Mozilla\Profiles\<profile name>\********.slt. The part after
> ********.slt is account-specific and _should not be changed_. If the
> path does not match, double-click on that preference and change the
> first part of the path (so up to ********.slt) to the one that is
> visible in the Account Manager.
> 5. Close SeaMonkey 1.x and open SeaMonkey 2 again to migrate your
> profile. Now it should also import your mails.
>
> Frank
Wow, my directory paths were all garbage that look similar to this:
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
All the -rel entries were intact, however, so I was able to
re-enter the full paths by doing the appropriate splicing.
With that done, I was able to successfully import my SM1
profile into SM2 and seemingly get there with everything
intact.
Interestingly, SM2 re-scrambled the directory paths, so I
guess that is the normal behavior. I must have had the
wrong values in my SM1 profile. Not sure what good this
scrambling is. In #seamonkey, Neil just said:
the -rel entries are used internally but the non -rel entries
are provided for the migrator and also for backward compatibility
with older versions
on Windows and Linux they are simple paths but on the Mac they are
a special sort of alias
Has anyone on OS X cleanly migrated??