How to change between Lightning and mail
Kim Ludvigsen
are hidden when not needed?
I don't know what I did, but suddenly the calender view is displayed in
the whole window. Folder pane and Lightning pane is gone, and I can't
figure out how to get them back. I can get back to the inbox by closing
Thunderbird and then open it again, but the folder pane is still not
shown at the left. And if I change to the calendar, I'm stuck again ...
... I found out, it was collapsed. But there is no way to see this, and
no way to see, how to get the pane back again. I think this is going to
be a major pain in the behind for ordinary users. At least there need to
be a grip, when it is collapsed.
Regards
Kim Ludvigsen
Christian Jansen
thanks for the feedback. I agree, that this is an issue, but I think
this is more a general design problem of the xul splitter.
I've filed a RFE on that.
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=356130
Thanks,
Christian
Kim Ludvigsen schrieb:
alta88
I think the general issue is that there is no built in way to turn
Lightning on and off in the Folder Pane:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=330674
However, there is an extension that provides a button etc.:
http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=412528
Kim Ludvigsen
>
> I think the general issue is that there is no built in way to turn
> Lightning on and off in the Folder Pane:
No, it's two different things. Both needs to be taken care of in a
future version.
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=330674
This open/closes Lightning in the sidebar. If one has many message
folders, it is nice to be able to turn off Lightning in order to see
more folders.
> However, there is an extension that provides a button etc.:
> http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=412528
Thanks! I will be sure to write about this on my Sunbird pages:
http://kimludvigsen.dk/programmer-tools-sunbird-trin.html
(sorry, they're in danish and not yet updated to version 0.3)
>> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=356130
This on the other hand is more serious. If one tries to make the folder
pane smaller, it disappears totally. And there is no indication that it
is merely collapsed.
I clicked at the splitter by accident, so it took some time to figure
out what had happened. I'm sure ordinary users will never find the
reason, and that they will have to uninstall Lightning in order to get
the folder pane back.
Actually the same behavior is in Thunderbird without Lightning, but the
pane does not disappear until the pane is very small. With Lightning one
just have to change the size with a millimeter, and poof!
Kind regards
Kim Ludvigsen
Stefan Sitter
> Actually the same behavior is in Thunderbird without Lightning,
> but the pane does not disappear until the pane is very small.
> With Lightning one just have to change the size with a
> millimeter, and poof!
If the pane width gets smaller than the minimum width - the width
that is required to display all elements inside the pane - the pane
collapses.
With Lightning installed the three buttons 'New', 'Edit' and
'Delete' in the Calendar tab forces a minimum width of about 270
pixel on my system.
Workaround for people that want a narrow pane:
Hide all buttons using userChrome.css style rule:
#ltnCalendarButtonsBox { display: none !important; }
/Stefan
Joachim Stahl
>
> This open/closes Lightning in the sidebar. If one has many message
> folders, it is nice to be able to turn off Lightning in order to see
> more folders.
>
Yes! I just installed Lightning and found myself wanting to do that
(have like 8 accounts and small monitor :) ).
Is there any option in about:config that controls/disables the Lightning sidebar?
Kim Ludvigsen
> Is there any option in about:config that controls/disables the Lightning
> sidebar?
It's a lot easier if you just install the extension ltnToggler, that
alta88 wrote about:
http://fanfaar.be/extensions/
You can enable or disable the Lightning sidebar using an icon or the
short key F9.
Joachim Stahl
Thanks! I know in my post I said 'sidebar'. My bad, what I really meant
to say was:
Is there any option in about:config that controls/disables the Lightning
*Calendar* in the sidebar (but keeping the todo list and agenda).
Stefan Sitter
> Is there any option in about:config that controls/disables the
> Lightning *Calendar* in the sidebar (but keeping the todo list
> and agenda).
You can do this via CSS-Rule in chrome/userChrome.css file
[http://kb.mozillazine.org/UserChrome.css] in your Thunderbird
profile. Add the following rule:
/* hide Minimonth */
#ltnMinimonthBox { display: none !important; }
/Stefan
Joachim Stahl
> You can do this via CSS-Rule in chrome/userChrome.css file
> [http://kb.mozillazine.org/UserChrome.css] in your Thunderbird
> profile. Add the following rule:
>
> /* hide Minimonth */
> #ltnMinimonthBox { display: none !important; }
>
That worked perfect. Thanks!
alta88
> This on the other hand is more serious. If one tries to make the folder
> pane smaller, it disappears totally. And there is no indication that it
> is merely collapsed.
>
> I clicked at the splitter by accident, so it took some time to figure
> out what had happened. I'm sure ordinary users will never find the
> reason, and that they will have to uninstall Lightning in order to get
> the folder pane back.
>
> Actually the same behavior is in Thunderbird without Lightning, but the
> pane does not disappear until the pane is very small. With Lightning one
> just have to change the size with a millimeter, and poof!
>
Tb 1.5 removed grippies, so this extension
https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/2242/
was created. I have modified it for myself to show a grippy for the
Lightning splitter, it's not hard but not necessarily easy either. Tb2
brings grippies back for the Message Pane and Folder Pane, but the mod
also works for Lightning in Tb2.
If you really want the grippy now, let me know and I'll post how; the
other likely better method would be to use the userchrome.js extension,
but I just modded the extension.
I've also made quite a few mods in css to style Lightning, to remove
wasted space etc. Space in the Folder Pane is very precious..
Kim Ludvigsen
> If you really want the grippy now, let me know and I'll post how;
It was not for myself, but in order to not alienate ordinary users. And
I guess that description will not be for them.
> I've also made quite a few mods in css to style Lightning, to remove
> wasted space etc. Space in the Folder Pane is very precious..
Indeed. The first thing I did, when Lightning was released to my OS
(where the pane is even wider than in Windows), was to use the
css-trick, which Stefan wrote about earlier in the thread, in order to
remove the buttons.
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Kind regards
Kim Ludvigsen