Accessible Firefox logo ideas

[Aaron Leventhal]

We're looking for some logo ideas related to accessible
Firefox. These could end up on t-shirts etc. for folks who
help out with Firefox accessibility.

Any ideas out there? I'm trying to avoid anything that's
been done many times over (the typical wheelchair logo, etc.)

- Aaron

[Sina Bahram]

I'm rather partial to animals wearing shades.

Per haps using a crutch to point to a firefox logo or something that
represents firefox?

That way the crutch, usually a simple of something that is used for support,
can then be used to point to something that is rather supportive and
supports accessibility?

The animal wearing shades of course would indicate we don't take ourselves
to seriously and makes fun of the popular stereotype of blinks wearing
shades.

Take care,
Sina

- Aaron
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[Aaron Leventhal]

Just to throw one of my own ideas into the mix.

How about something using Sit Skis (or the ice skating
equivalent). I can imagine Firefox making an awesome sit ski
jump. Here are some images from the Paralympics:

Sit Ski:
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41432000/jpg/_41432256_rose203.jpg

Hockey/skating:
http://www.usahockey.com/servlets/FileServlet/relatedDocuments/F9AAD7B8587B1AC8E0340003BA5FE009/joe%20howard%2002%20paralympics%20800.gif

- Aaron

[Jonathan Chetwynd]

bionic fox?

prosethetics over disabilities?

Jonathan Chetwynd

[Hans Hillen]

Perhaps a logo where Firefox, instead of flying around the globe (or
whatever it does in the original logo), probes the globe with a cane or
something, or even have a guide dog sniff it? May be too oriented on
blindness though.

Hans Hillen
TPG Europe

[David Poehlman]

I was thiinking of another blind idea as well. How about a submareen
in the shape of a shark with windows / portals for eyes running along
side firefox?

Hans Hillen
TPG Europe

[Shane Anderson]

One way of going about this is by showing something that connotes "ability".
The icon on our training CD, for example, (http://webaim.org/products/training/
) tries to do this.

We are NOT trying to provide an alternative entrance or parking spot, but
rather a tool that seamlessly integrates into someone's environment.

Warm fuzzies aside, I do realize that integrating this line of thought in an
icon or logo will be difficult and I am fine with any fun alternative to the
usual wheelchair or dark glasses... But... maybe someone can come up with
something with a little more depth. :-)

Just a thought that I hope might get more creative juices flowing.

Shane Anderson
WebAIM.org

[Aaron Leventhal]

> Warm fuzzies aside, I do realize that integrating this line of thought

> in an icon or logo will be difficult ...

I don't think we actually need an icon, since this isn't a
specific app to launch. Icons are too small to be very complex.

Let's free ourselves up to think of complex ideas. I see
this on t-shirts, booth banners, printed literature and
websites.

- Aaron

[Aaron Leventhal]

> Warm fuzzies aside, I do realize that integrating this line of thought

[Charles Chen]

I propose a modified version of the existing Firefox logo so that the
fox is wearing a harness on it (the type that seeing eye dogs would be
wearing) and a stick figure is holding onto the harness. I would suggest
the Mozilla dragon instead of the stick figure, but since we are moving
away from that, I guess we can't use that...

At any rate, the seeing eye dog image avoids the cliched wheelchair,
shades, cane, etc. type designs while evoking some of the great
qualities of Firefox that we would want people to remember and associate
with us such as user friendliness ("man's best friend") and (literally)
leading the way for accessibility.

-Charles

[Jonathan Chetwynd]

strangely this morning in central London a fox was in our garden,
we'd found the large hole in the fence, but not the perpetrator
~:"

Jonathan Chetwynd

bionic fox?

prosethetics over disabilities?

Jonathan Chetwynd

[Jon Gibbins (dotjay)]

Aaron Leventhal wrote:
> Any ideas out there? I'm trying to avoid anything that's been done many times over (the typical wheelchair logo, etc.)
>
> - Aaron

We've had this sort of discussion on Accessify Forum before on trying to
avoid the wheelchair idea - it's tricky to achieve. We've kept the logo
the same though as it is a recognised symbol for accessibility.
AccessFirefox.com uses the wheelchair symbol.

The problem with many accessibility logo ideas is that they either try
to hard to encompass all disability or they focus on one. Others are
just too abstract.

I think simplicity is the key, as with any good logo.

I particularly like Apple's accessibility logo:
http://www.apple.com/accessibility/

And I've used the symbolism of a key and lock before, but it borders on
the abstract.

More interesting discussion from Joe Clark:
http://joeclark.org/symbolizing.html

Strangely, updated here (?):
http://joeclark.org/access/resources/symbolizing.html

Charles Chen wrote:
> At any rate, the seeing eye dog image avoids the cliched wheelchair,
> shades, cane, etc. type designs while evoking some of the great
> qualities of Firefox that we would want people to remember and associate
> with us such as user friendliness ("man's best friend") and (literally)
> leading the way for accessibility.
>
> -Charles

I quite like that idea, Charles.

Jon

[Jonathan Chetwynd]

Joe's naturally contrary verging on bl@£$-minded, and in this we have
common.

However I find the Apple logo frankly worrying, something faintly
sinisterly utopian arian >> eugenics
man going ET

I'd rather celebrate diversity

perhaps pkdicks alarms ringing?

cheers

Jonathan Chetwynd

Jon

[Calum Benson]

On 21 Oct 2006, at 14:58, Jon Gibbins (dotjay) wrote:

> I particularly like Apple's accessibility logo:
> http://www.apple.com/accessibility/

Which, FWIW, they arrived it because they refer to their features as
"Universal Access" (hence the stylised "universal man" icon), rather
than "accessibility". We also use that icon (and more recently, that
term) on the Java Desktop System.

Cheeri,
Calum.

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[Jon Gibbins (dotjay)]

Calum Benson wrote:
> Which, FWIW, they arrived it because they refer to their features as
> "Universal Access" (hence the stylised "universal man" icon), rather
> than "accessibility".

I see your point.

I still maintain that simplicity is the key.

This page of thoughts from a wheelchair user makes some very interesting
reading:
http://thenthdegree.com/intacces.asp

Jon