Wonderful stuff! Am using it for a while now to see how I get on.
A couple of requests, which you're probably thinking about already:
1. Faster access to pinned tabs (The demo video shows what looks like a column of pinned tabs below the FF icon, but it doesn't seem to happen in my install) 2. Faster access to the bookmarks in my bookmark bar 3. Hide/move Firefox icon (somehow... I'm lacking suggestions for exactly what to do with it, but providing the option to simply bind it to a key of choice - e.g. a Function key or similar, rather than the Ctrl-L combo - would be good)
None of these are essential, of course. Thanks so much for making this, it's really interesting!
And another request, rather more urgent: At present, updating the Home Dash view in line with text entry in the search box seems to be triggered by keydown; this causes major perf issues if the update is costly (say, because you have a massive history and several hundred open tabs... yeah, I'm afraid so). Perhaps throttle by timeout instead?
On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 4:11 PM, Yoz Grahame <yoz...@gmail.com> wrote: > Faster access to pinned tabs
You can create pinned tabs by dragging them left. (I know, not very easy to find right now.) Now you can just hit ctrl-1 to jump to the first pinned tab.
> Faster access to the bookmarks in my bookmark bar
The search will still find your bookmarks, but won't indicate that they're bookmarks quite yet. But perhaps when there's customization of the dashboard area, it'll somewhat act like what we have with the bookmarks bar now.
> Hide/move Firefox icon
I've been thinking about hiding the icon completely if you're not moving the pointer. So if you're watching a full screen HTML5 video, the icon will just fade away.
> a Function key or similar, rather than the Ctrl-L combo
Are you looking for a keyboard combo to toggle Home Dash? As you pointed out, you can hit ctrl-l to activate it. Hitting escape will get rid of the dashboard.
> this causes major perf issues if the update is costly
I think this might be related to the recently added thumbnails. Before history searching felt much faster. But indeed, searching through tabs and history on a timeout might be needed.
The biggest issue I've had with it since I've installed it tonight is
that I have to either disable ScriptBlock to best use HomeDash or vice
versa. Normally under the betas the little SB icon would come up next
to the address bar, but no more. Is there anyway this can be resolved?
-- Brian
On Jan 26, 8:03 pm, Edward Lee <edi...@mozilla.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 4:11 PM, Yoz Grahame <yoz...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Faster access to pinned tabs
> You can create pinned tabs by dragging them left. (I know, not very
> easy to find right now.) Now you can just hit ctrl-1 to jump to the
> first pinned tab.
> > Faster access to the bookmarks in my bookmark bar
> The search will still find your bookmarks, but won't indicate that
> they're bookmarks quite yet. But perhaps when there's customization of
> the dashboard area, it'll somewhat act like what we have with the
> bookmarks bar now.
> > Hide/move Firefox icon
> I've been thinking about hiding the icon completely if you're not
> moving the pointer. So if you're watching a full screen HTML5 video,
> the icon will just fade away.
> > a Function key or similar, rather than the Ctrl-L combo
> Are you looking for a keyboard combo to toggle Home Dash? As you
> pointed out, you can hit ctrl-l to activate it. Hitting escape will
> get rid of the dashboard.
> > this causes major perf issues if the update is costly
> I think this might be related to the recently added thumbnails. Before
> history searching felt much faster. But indeed, searching through tabs
> and history on a timeout might be needed.
> > Please leave feedback on that post in this thread.
> > Ed
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On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 8:10 PM, Kevin Dangoor <kdang...@mozilla.com> wrote: > One comment: I couldn't find a way to go to a URL directly (short of > being one of those people that does a google search for yahoo.com :)
You should be able to just type in the url that you want and hit enter.
... but if you have a "top match", I suppose that gets tricky. Maybe there should be an override like holding "shift"?
Pro-tip! Hit cmd-l twice to get the current location filled in, so you can edit the path/query/etc. :)
On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 6:39 PM, MetaMonk <briankolczyn...@gmail.com> wrote: > the little SB icon would come up next to the address bar
It sounds like ScriptBlock is only adding itself to the main Firefox UI, namely the location bar. Theoretically that add-on could hook into the Home Dash interface if it was a part of Firefox. Also, if the add-on added itself to the new Firefox 4 add-on bar, that should still show even if Home Dash is active.
Until then, you could use Home Dash 2 with the alt-ctrl-shift-d soft toggle to restore the Firefox UI including ScriptBlock.
On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 11:18 PM, Edward Lee <edi...@mozilla.com> wrote: > On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 8:10 PM, Kevin Dangoor <kdang...@mozilla.com> > wrote: > > One comment: I couldn't find a way to go to a URL directly (short of > > being one of those people that does a google search for yahoo.com :) > You should be able to just type in the url that you want and hit enter.
> ... but if you have a "top match", I suppose that gets tricky. Maybe > there should be an override like holding "shift"?
Yes, that was exactly the problem. In fact, I was trying to get to the top page of mozillalabs.com and my other matches there weren't letting me...
> Pro-tip! Hit cmd-l twice to get the current location filled in, so you > can edit the path/query/etc. :)
Home Dash is awesome. I think you should fix one thing, and it's all
good.
This one thing, is tab management. I like how the new loaded tabs
appear on the left below the firefox logo. Why not let them stay
there? All open tabs should stay on the left of the screen (or right)
as icons, so we can switch easier. When we need to close a tab, press
cmd-W or middle-click them.
On 27 jan, 02:03, Edward Lee <edi...@mozilla.com> wrote:
> > a Function key or similar, rather than the Ctrl-L combo
> Are you looking for a keyboard combo to toggle Home Dash? As you
> pointed out, you can hit ctrl-l to activate it. Hitting escape will
> get rid of the dashboard.
I think he was talking about single key access (like F1 addon) rather
than combo
Home dash is really interesting. I'd like a better bookmark
management, like capability to open a bookmark folder in tabs.
Choosing the position of the logo and how the tab notification expand
(bottom-up, left-right…) would be great
Feature request: I think it would be great to be able to have to pages
(or more) showing next to each other in the main browsing window, e.g.
instead of two windows (ctrl+n), one window showing two pages in
parallel like in a word processor.
Just a little thing: I is hard to see if the icons you can click to
set the search provider are activated or not (difference in opacity
between the two states is to small).
On Jan 26, 10:59 pm, Edward Lee <edi...@mozilla.com> wrote:
another thing: I have gmail, reader, twitter and so on as pinned tab.
The tab change color when I receive a new mail or tweet etc…
a way to have this notification with Home Dash would be great :)
On Jan 27, 9:36 am, Geobert <geob...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 27 jan, 02:03, Edward Lee <edi...@mozilla.com> wrote:
> > > a Function key or similar, rather than the Ctrl-L combo
> > Are you looking for a keyboard combo to toggle Home Dash? As you
> > pointed out, you can hit ctrl-l to activate it. Hitting escape will
> > get rid of the dashboard.
> I think he was talking about single key access (like F1 addon) rather
> than combo
> Home dash is really interesting. I'd like a better bookmark
> management, like capability to open a bookmark folder in tabs.
> Choosing the position of the logo and how the tab notification expand
> (bottom-up, left-right…) would be great
Hi, I just tried to use it, but it doesn't work properly.
I have firefow 4.0b9 and mac OS 10.5.8
When I click on the firefox icon in the corner, my current page
becommes grey as it should, but none of the windows nore tabs appear.
The search box is the only thing on my screen, but it has none of the
icons.
The tabs can appear randomly when my mouse is leaving the page or when
it's
moving hover some tags. I tried shorcuts to change between tabs and it
works.
I hope you'll find how to fix this.
Thanks.
On 26 jan, 22:59, Edward Lee <edi...@mozilla.com> wrote:
<jeremy.landes.no...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi, I just tried to use it, but it doesn't work properly.
> I have firefow 4.0b9 and mac OS 10.5.8
> When I click on the firefox icon in the corner, my current page
> becommes grey as it should, but none of the windows nore tabs appear.
> The search box is the only thing on my screen, but it has none of the
> icons.
> The tabs can appear randomly when my mouse is leaving the page or when
> it's
> moving hover some tags. I tried shorcuts to change between tabs and it
> works.
> I hope you'll find how to fix this.
> Thanks.
> On 26 jan, 22:59, Edward Lee <edi...@mozilla.com> wrote:
> beta 10 is out, maybe home dash works only with it?
> On Jan 27, 3:44 pm, Jérémy Landes-Nones
> <jeremy.landes.no...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi, I just tried to use it, but it doesn't work properly.
> > I have firefow 4.0b9 and mac OS 10.5.8
> > When I click on the firefox icon in the corner, my current page
> > becommes grey as it should, but none of the windows nore tabs appear.
> > The search box is the only thing on my screen, but it has none of the
> > icons.
> > The tabs can appear randomly when my mouse is leaving the page or when
> > it's
> > moving hover some tags. I tried shorcuts to change between tabs and it
> > works.
> > I hope you'll find how to fix this.
> > Thanks.
> > On 26 jan, 22:59, Edward Lee <edi...@mozilla.com> wrote:
> a Function key or similar, rather than the Ctrl-L combo > Are you looking for a keyboard combo to toggle Home Dash? As you > pointed out, you can hit ctrl-l to activate it. Hitting escape will > get rid of the dashboard.
> I'm testing F1 as Home dash hotkey with the help of keyconfig (moving F1
extension to F12), it feels quite right (one hand to open home dash, the other on the mouse)
When trying the search box, I feel the lack of keyboard navigation as I'm typing something, I don't want to put my hand back to the mouse. It's not a problem when I just want to change tab.
I really like Home Dash, but (of course) I have some tings to
implement.
1. faster access to pinned tabs
2. a possibility to fast cycle trough all tabs (tab names + favicon)
would be enough
3. a possibility to use the back button for going back x pages
4. optionality: view one toolbar with: back, forward, all pinned tabs,
scrollable tabs, tab group button (optional), addon buttons (optional)
5. the possibility to specify which tabs are shown in the bottom area
6. maybe tab group integration
7. eventually more, but I've forgotten it
8. tanks for it
Very nice! I really like the concept and it works quite well even at this first version. In the way of feedback I think I'd rather have less of the graphics-intense previewing in exchange for simpler, more responsive UI, particularly when just switching between tabs quickly.
Another quick thought: Why not have the tabs area go all the way across the top, providing more room for tabs, and move the location field down, just below it on the left? (Or this could be an optional layout, if/when you get a preferences pane for it?)
Also, I agree with Paul in the fact that I think there should be some
Preferences. One of the key things that makes Firefox miles better
than competitors is the customisability of it! Things like position of
new tabs, etc.
Another idea is to have an icon for the tab pop up when there is
something new in the tab. Like how an App Tab goes blue, you would be
able to quickly go to that tab to see what has been updated!
Other than that this is a great add on and looks like it's going to be
very successful!
On Jan 26, 9:59 pm, Edward Lee <edi...@mozilla.com> wrote:
- I'd like to see the address of the links when I put my pointer over
them and not the name of the link which usually is the same displayed
in the page and is what is displayed on the side of the FF logo upper
left.
- in the normal (old?) interface I use to have some buttons in the
address bar (web developer for example, of fireftp) that means one
click to see that particular bar, now if I try to see the web
developer bar selecting it from the main menu is the address bar that
appears instead (FF4b10), and if I click on the web developer button
on the address bar, the address bar simply disappear and I got no web
developer bar at all.
- I have many (and I mean many) bookmarks and I don't remember the
name of all of them, that's why I organized them in folders so with
the usual interface if I want to open a bookmark in a new tab I open a
new blank tab, open the bookmarks menu (from the button in the address
bar on FF4b10), open the folder relative to the argument I'm looking
for, select the bookmark (recognizing it reading it's name) and that's
all. with home dash I can't find a way to open a blank tab and so I'm
not able to open a bookmark in a new tab quickly, the only way is open
the bookmarks menu, open the folder, read the name of the bookmark,
close the menu, hit ctrl-t, type the name of the bookmark, hit enter.
I would like to have a faster way to do that :)
- I think there should be a faster way to switch tabs, in the normal
interface is a one click operation because I always see them and they
display the title of the page (assuming you don't have dozens of
opened tabs of course). with home dash I have to ctrl-l to show them,
if the pages have similar content I have to hover them one by one to
find the page I'm looking for (reading their titles), and finally
click on it. or ctrl-tab to carousel all the tabs until finding the
desired one. I think both methods are slower than simply click (or
ctrl-number) on the tab you want.
also theres no way to close "other tabs" and a not active tab (without
previewing it).
- In the normal address bar of FF4b10 there's a nice star-icon that
inform me if I already have an address in my bookmarks or not.
obviously without the address bar I have no clue. also clicking the
star is a fast way to bookmark a page and decide where to store the
bookmark with a second click. I miss this
- I have facebook as an application-tab in FF4b10, this means that
while I'm browsing I can see if I got new stuff simply because the
facebook tab highlights (or the gmail one). without visible tabs this
is impossible.
I really like the concept behind this but maybe I'm too used with the
standard interface, somehow I feel lost without tabs, for example if I
open 10 tabs and then I leave the computer when I return a simple look
tells me where I was, if I got new mails and if someone comment on
facebook, without visible tabs I should open home dash to remember the
10 sites and I have no choice but to visit gmail and facebook to see
if there's new stuff. so the standard interface doing nothing gives me
many informations, the home dash doing an operation (ctrl-l) gives me
just a part of the informations. that's why I find home dash nicer to
see than normal FF but not so user-friendly.
On Jan 27, 3:31 pm, Rob Hannay <bod...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Also, I agree with Paul in the fact that I think there should be some
> Preferences. One of the key things that makes Firefox miles better
> than competitors is the customisability of it! Things like position of
> new tabs, etc.
Way too early for preferences. This is a concept! It should be
radical. No compromises, not yet. That time will come, but for now
spend some time trying to work in the constraints provided by Home
Dash. Where do you work around them? Where does HD provide a different
paradigm? Where is there friction? A set of preferences is an easy way
out of being an active part of the experiment.
As for me, I'm acclimating. There are things I miss right now. I may
not miss them in a week, but I won't know that unless I immerse myself
in the Home Dash experience. I haven't decided if it's brilliant,
crazy, or somewhere in between, but I think it will be a few more days
before I have another set of somewhat coherent thoughts on the matter.
