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Edward Lee  
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 More options Mar 18 2011, 12:20 pm
From: Edward Lee <edi...@mozilla.com>
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 09:20:10 -0700
Local: Fri, Mar 18 2011 12:20 pm
Subject: Efficient Browsing with Home Dash
There's a new video to check out for Home Dash:
http://videos-cdn.mozilla.net/serv/labs/prospector/homeDashEfficient....

More details in the latest update:
https://mozillalabs.com/prospector/2011/03/18/efficient-browsing-with...

Please leave feedback on that post in this thread.

Ed


 
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Paul Morris  
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 More options Mar 18 2011, 2:19 pm
From: Paul Morris <paulwmor...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 11:19:34 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Mar 18 2011 2:19 pm
Subject: Re: Efficient Browsing with Home Dash
Nice work!

Here's a suggestion for what it's worth:

Having to hit command-L twice to see the URL of the current page is
pretty obscure (by design, I know).  But why not have it appear with
just a single command-L?  The URL appears highlighted so typing
replaces it -- so it doesn't affect what the user does whether it's
shown or not.  It's a purely added benefit, and is closer to the
standard behavior for command-L, providing familiarity for those
moving to home dash.  You'd still have command-T which gives you a new
tab and blank text box.  Right now the difference between command-T
and command-L is not that clear.  So it would also offer better
differentiation between opening a new tab and replacing the current
page.  If the URL appears you know you're replacing the current page,
just as in the regular firefox interface.

That's my suggestion.  Great work!
-Paul


 
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Abdul Muneer  
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 More options Mar 18 2011, 2:47 pm
From: Abdul Muneer <abdulmun...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 00:17:59 +0530
Local: Fri, Mar 18 2011 2:47 pm
Subject: Re: Efficient Browsing with Home Dash

I have one more suggestion. Often, I am not comfortable browsing pages when
I cannot see the url of the pages. This is by habit and as well as by
security practices like watching out for phishing pages. So when I use Home
Dash, I have to enter Command+L the Esc to see the url of the page. Also,
this brings a lot of visual clutter to the page during that time and affects
the over all user experience. It would have been nice if there is any
mouseover behaviour like when u move the mouse to anywhere in the top
border, it would drop-down the url banner (or the whole conventional url and
tabs bars - that might just give the 'best of both world' experience).

Thanks to Lee for the great work. But I'm still little uncomfortable using
the Home Dash. I don't like being in the dark about my navigation and the
active tabs I'm browsing :) . A quick access to them might just win the deal
for me. Nevertheless, I have been checking Home Dash since day 1. Great
progress over the iterations!

Regards,
Abdul Muneer

--
Whom I'm Lookin' for is The One who sees!!


 
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Paul Morris  
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 More options Mar 18 2011, 3:09 pm
From: Paul Morris <paulwmor...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 12:09:13 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Mar 18 2011 3:09 pm
Subject: Re: Efficient Browsing with Home Dash
On Mar 18, 2:47 pm, Abdul Muneer <abdulmun...@gmail.com> wrote:

> But I'm still little uncomfortable using
> the Home Dash. I don't like being in the dark about my navigation and the
> active tabs I'm browsing :) . A quick access to them might just win the deal
> for me.

I use Panorama for this.  It works well alongside Home Dash to give
you quick access to all your open tabs.  The "Change Panorama
Shortcut" add on is also helpful.  I set it to command+E.

-Paul


 
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Edward Lee  
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 More options Mar 18 2011, 3:28 pm
From: Edward Lee <edi...@mozilla.com>
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 12:28:27 -0700
Local: Fri, Mar 18 2011 3:28 pm
Subject: Re: Efficient Browsing with Home Dash
On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 11:19 AM, Paul Morris <paulwmor...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The URL appears highlighted so typing replaces it -- so it doesn't affect what
> the user does whether it's shown or not.  It's a purely added benefit

That's probably mostly true. But I have a feeling (we haven't done
studies yet!) that at least for some users, with the traditional
location bar, they are afraid or don't feel like they should change
the location because that text is set by the browser. Touching it
might break the internet! ;) People end up typing "google.com" into
the search box, clicking the first result for google, then typing in
yet another domain into google then clicking the page. That might be
because the search box is always what you've entered or is empty for
you to enter something.

However, for people pressing cmd-l, they're probably more comfortable
with changing/editing the url by hand, so it's a reasonable
suggestion. I've filed an issue for you:

https://github.com/mozilla/prospector/issues/187

Additionally, for those not familiar with keyboard shortcuts, they'll
likely have to click on the Firefox icon, and that will do what cmd-t
does -- prepare to open a new tab with an empty input box.

Ed


 
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Paul Morris  
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 More options Mar 18 2011, 5:54 pm
From: Paul Morris <paulwmor...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 14:54:53 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Mar 18 2011 5:54 pm
Subject: Re: Efficient Browsing with Home Dash

Good points.  It seems like you've got two quite different target audiences
for Home Dash, both advanced users and those who are afraid of breaking the
internet.  :)  

Glad you're amenable to my suggestion, and thanks for filing the issue on
it!  It should help keep the more advanced users who like their URLs happy.

-Paul


 
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Kruykaze  
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 More options Mar 18 2011, 11:44 pm
From: Kruykaze <kruyk...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 20:44:12 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Mar 18 2011 11:44 pm
Subject: Re: Efficient Browsing with Home Dash
Great ! I already started using it . I know how to resize the
thumbnails but can't figure out how to zoom. i see the magnifying
glass but it doesn't do anything. (ubuntu 64bit)

On Mar 18, 10:20 am, Edward Lee <edi...@mozilla.com> wrote:


 
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Kruykaze  
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 More options Mar 18 2011, 11:49 pm
From: Kruykaze <kruyk...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 20:49:35 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Mar 18 2011 11:49 pm
Subject: Re: Efficient Browsing with Home Dash
Nevermind I got it. you resize first then you can drag to zoom.

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Jia-Jia Zhu  
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 More options Mar 19 2011, 1:21 pm
From: Jia-Jia Zhu <m...@jiajiazhu.com>
Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 10:21:42 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sat, Mar 19 2011 1:21 pm
Subject: Re: Efficient Browsing with Home Dash

How do I even launch Home Dash? And what's that layout in your screencast?
Will Firefox 4 look like that when Home Dash is activated?


 
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Kruykaze  
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 More options Mar 20 2011, 12:53 am
From: Kruykaze <kruyk...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 21:53:13 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sun, Mar 20 2011 12:53 am
Subject: Re: Efficient Browsing with Home Dash
ctrl+l once
On Mar 19, 11:21 am, Jia-Jia Zhu <m...@jiajiazhu.com> wrote:


 
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 More options Mar 23 2011, 2:59 am
From: Nobody <mlhpr.pra...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 23:59:47 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Mar 23 2011 2:59 am
Subject: Re: Efficient Browsing with Home Dash

I like the concept of Home Dash but the following issues are making me use
less... excuse me if they are specific to me or in pipeline already...
[ubuntu 10.10 64bit with firefox 4.0.13 beta 23/03]
1) How to change no of thumbnails on home dash screen... not able to change
the initial thumbnails created when installed... even links not being
replaced..
2) No security icon about the sites i visit... (no https certificate till i
go back to default ui mode)
3) Screen shots on thumbnails are not freezing on some sites like gmail...
they are reloading even after being frozen.. working on static sites..
4) No option to create thumbnails...
5) Not able to go back to the previous page in home dash mode... back button
getting disabled...
6) Is there any way to make addons visible in home dash mode.. without addon
bar... I really like using wot, flagfox, mozilla f1 and tab groups..


 
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Edward Lee  
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 More options Mar 23 2011, 5:16 pm
From: Edward Lee <edi...@mozilla.com>
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 14:16:36 -0700
Local: Wed, Mar 23 2011 5:16 pm
Subject: Re: Efficient Browsing with Home Dash
On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Abdul Muneer <abdulmun...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I am not comfortable browsing pages when I cannot see the url of the pages

You point out that you're looking out for phishing pages. How often
are you entering login information to pages? Do you use the password
manager? If so, Firefox should only fill in the information on pages
that you've been to, so if you end up on a phishing page, Firefox
won't accidentally fill out your username/password. But this is also
only if the page has avoided Firefox's built-in anti-phishing and
anti-malware protection.

> move the mouse to anywhere in the top border, it would drop-down the url

A slightly hidden feature for is that you can hold Shift while
pointing at a link to see the url instead of human readable text.
There isn't something equivalent yet for showing the current page's
url, but version 8 added showing of the page's title whenever it
changes or when you switch tabs.

> active tabs I'm browsing :) . A quick access to them might just win the deal

Could you explain more of what you expect compared to what there is
right now when you scroll the mouse on the Firefox icon? Would you
prefer no thumbnails in a more compact list? Titles of tabs? Or just
some small representation, e.g., favicon?

Ed


 
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Edward Lee  
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 More options Mar 23 2011, 5:31 pm
From: Edward Lee <edi...@mozilla.com>
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 14:31:21 -0700
Local: Wed, Mar 23 2011 5:31 pm
Subject: Re: Efficient Browsing with Home Dash
On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 11:59 PM, Nobody <mlhpr.pra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> How to change no of thumbnails on home dash screen

There'll be a way to add (and remove) thumbnails in the future.
Perhaps by dragging in a history result or an open tab into the
dashboard area.

> No security icon about the sites i visit

What do you get out of/how do you use the security icon? Is it to make
sure you're on the right page? Do you only look for certain sites?
What would you do if a site doesn't have the security icon and has no
option for https?
https://github.com/mozilla/prospector/issues/192

> Screen shots on thumbnails are not freezing on some sites like gmail

Do you click the checkbox after you finish configuring the thumbnail?
There's a bug where you can dismiss Home Dash but keep the thumbnail
editing.
https://github.com/mozilla/prospector/issues/191

> Not able to go back to the previous page in home dash mode

https://github.com/mozilla/prospector/issues/190

> Is there any way to make addons visible in home dash mode

These are add-ons that add themselves to the navigation toolbar? This
is somewhat related to people wanting the navigation toolbar in some
way to go back/forwards/reload, etc. Perhaps there can be a way to
address both concerns as they are somewhat related.

Ed


 
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 More options Mar 30 2011, 1:12 pm
From: Herdo <stefan.o...@gmx.de>
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 10:12:48 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Mar 30 2011 1:12 pm
Subject: Re: Efficient Browsing with Home Dash
Hi guys.
I have 3 issues.
The "URL-Box" (top left corner), i can't push "Google", "Amazon" and
"Leo" button.
Also can't check the checkbox below: "replace current page"
And I can't close tabs with right-click on the FF-logo.

 
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Edward Lee  
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 More options Mar 31 2011, 3:33 am
From: Edward Lee <edi...@mozilla.com>
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 00:33:03 -0700
Local: Thurs, Mar 31 2011 3:33 am
Subject: Re: Efficient Browsing with Home Dash
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 10:12 AM, Herdo <stefan.o...@gmx.de> wrote:
> The "URL-Box" (top left corner), i can't push "Google", "Amazon" and
> "Leo" button.
> Also can't check the checkbox below: "replace current page"

These two are related and should be fixed with this issue:
https://github.com/mozilla/prospector/issues/207

> And I can't close tabs with right-click on the FF-logo.

That was removed with the addition of the close tab control, but if
the Home Dash menu doesn't require the right-mouse button to be held
to access items, the right-click-to-close functionality could be
restored.
https://github.com/mozilla/prospector/issues/208

Ed


 
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 More options Oct 17 2011, 8:27 am
From: Sean <sean.morti...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 05:27:23 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, Oct 17 2011 8:27 am
Subject: Re: Efficient Browsing with Home Dash

I really like the idea of the Home Dash, though I think it would take me
some time to really get used to it.  There's a few issues I had that are
keeping me from using it though.  
1) I miss having quick access to to all the buttons on my bookmark toolbar.
2) I can't seem to do a google search from the location bar with just the
keyboard.  I have to reach for the keyboard and click the little "Google"
icon.
3) Pressing "ctrl+enter" no longer adds ".com" to the end of an address.  
Though I suspect I could get used to not having this feature.

One other thing I noticed was that the order of the favicons that come up
when you right click isn't static.  I think the active one was always on the
far left.  Maybe it's just me, but I found this behaviour made it harder to
find the tab I wanted.


 
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