Mozilla F1 released

[Bryan Clark]

Hey -

We've pushed the latest code out to production. Lets use this thread
is to talk about this current release and any issues people are seeing
with this latest version. We can also use this thread to talk about
the latest ski conditions in your area when we get bored talking about
F1. :)

Cheers,
~ Bryan

[Bryan Clark]

Here's the blog post announcing the release.
http://mozillalabs.com/messaging/2011/03/10/mozilla-f1-faster-more/

[sergio...@mozilla-hispano.org]

Great! Im not at home at this moment, there is something new?
Enviado desde mi BlackBerry de Personal

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[db_cooper]

Is there a changelog?

[Caspy7]

The issues I'm having now are the same I was having before except when
I first installed and restarted there was no autocomplete happening
for gmail. After forcing a refresh the autocomplete is back for
gmail.

Despite having done multiple manual refreshes, the address book
available for gmail is the same as the first time I set up F1 several
versions ago - and at that it appears to still be missing contacts.
This means any contacts I add right now will not show up in the list
(even with a refresh).
In my case this means the person who I want to email the most does not
show up. (I normally use my native client for emailing so she wasn't
initially in the gmail address book.)

Also, I thought I'd read that in the last version of F1 when I type @
in a public tweet that I would see an autocomplete list from my
friends, but I am not seeing this.

Mark

[James Burke]

On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 4:08 PM, Caspy7 <cas...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The issues I'm having now are the same I was having before except when
> I first installed and restarted there was no autocomplete happening
> for gmail.  After forcing a refresh the autocomplete is back for
> gmail.

What version of Firefox and the F1 extension are you running?

James

[Matt]

Seems awesome so far. One quick thing I've noticed is that it's kind
of hard to tell that a "share" was successful due to the fact that the
progress indicator and the share successful indicator are the same
color. I think that making the success indicator take on a green hue
would allow for better visual feedback. This would also allow for a
red hue to be added in the event an error occurs. This would bring our
feedback indicators to Blue for in-progress, Green for a successful
share, and Red for an error event.

Thanks.

On Mar 10, 5:25 pm, Bryan Clark <clar...@gmail.com> wrote:

[Caspy7]

On Mar 10, 7:37 pm, James Burke <jrbu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> What version of Firefox and the F1 extension are you running?

RC1
0.7.7

[Bryan Clark]

Good idea, we'll look into using a different color for success. We got
some hints from our usability testing that the sharing and success
indicator might be too subtle for the first share so we're also looking
into if we should be giving a greater hint of how to see a successful
share on the first share.

For failed shares we're using a notification bar instead of in the icon
as we wanted to make sure it was visible. You can test this out on your
own by entering a junk email address into the gmail to field. The share
panel should close normally and then you'll quickly get an error
notification through the notification bar you normally see for popups etc.

Thanks,
~ Bryan

[Bryan Clark]

I'll probably be putting out a more summarized Changelog like summary
with future releases. For now you'd have to run through the commit log
on github: https://github.com/mozilla/f1/commits/

[James Burke]

On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 4:08 PM, Caspy7 <cas...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Despite having done multiple manual refreshes, the address book
> available for gmail is the same as the first time I set up F1 several
> versions ago - and at that it appears to still be missing contacts.
> This means any contacts I add right now will not show up in the list
> (even with a refresh).
> In my case this means the person who I want to email the most does not
> show up.  (I normally use my native client for emailing so she wasn't
> initially in the gmail address book.)

Right now we limit the API call to Google to retrieve a max of 500
contacts. Is your contact list bigger than that? We have talked about
trying to open that up to a larger number, even go unlimited.

With the latest there is some mitigation: if you type the email once
and it is not in the autocomplete, after a successful send the name
should be remembered. But it would be best if we just got all the
names and correctly from the start.

> Also, I thought I'd read that in the last version of F1 when I type @
> in a public tweet that I would see an autocomplete list from my
> friends, but I am not seeing this.

The @ completion is only available if "direct message" is selected in
the dropdown instead of "public" and there is @ name completion in
that field.

James

[josefec]

I would like to ask if you plan to allow editing of header, short
excerpt and photo of the shared link. Sometimes Facebook does a really
bad job when trying to find the best excerpt of the text or the best
photo on the page and I am used to editing the excerpt, changing for
one that is more appropriate or choosing other photo then the first
when sharing via Facebook’s page. So is this being planned? This is
something that I really miss in this addon and a reason why I won’t
use it. If I share a news item about e.g. central bank changing its
rates and get a picture of Gaddafi there from other part of the news
page, it is reallys not nice. Thanks for response.

[Bryan Clark]

Hi -

Yes, I'd really like to have this as well. There are some changes we
need to look into to make this happen but I've added it to our plan
for a future release. I'll send a message out to the list when we
start work on and so if you're interested in testing we'd love to get
some feedback.

Cheers,
~ Bryan

[Sebastian]

Hi,

installed the F1 addon but whenever I click on the f1 button the only
thing I get is a box with a light blue background. My error console
displays an security error exception:

Error: uncaught exception: [Exception... "Security error" code:
"1000" nsresult: "0x805303e8 (NS_ERROR_DOM_SECURITY_ERR)" location:
"https://f1.mozillamessaging.com/0.3.1/share/panel/index.js Line: 62"]

Any clue how to fix this?

Regards,

Sebastian

[James Burke]

If you clear the browser cache then restart the browser does that fix it?

Have you used F1 in the past, before installing the latest version of
the add-on? If so there may be a problem with an old version of the
server-based UI working with the latest extension.

James

[Sebastian]

No, clearing the cache does not help. I tried it with FF4 latest beta
under linux and FF4 RC1 under Windows7, no success. The error is the
same:

Error: uncaught exception: [Exception... "Security error" code:
"1000" nsresult: "0x805303e8 (NS_ERROR_DOM_SECURITY_ERR)" location:
"https://f1.mozillamessaging.com/0.3.1/share/panel/index.js Line: 62"]

On 15 Mrz., 16:14, James Burke <jrbu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> If you clear the browser cache then restart the browser does that fix it?
>
> Have you used F1 in the past, before installing the latest version of
> the add-on? If so there may be a problem with an old version of the
> server-based UI working with the latest extension.
>
> James
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, March 15, 2011, Sebastian <sebastian.wiesin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi,
>
> > installed the F1 addon but whenever I click on the f1 button the only
> > thing I get is a box with a light blue background. My error console
> > displays an security error exception:
>
> > Error: uncaught exception: [Exception... "Security error"  code:
> > "1000" nsresult: "0x805303e8 (NS_ERROR_DOM_SECURITY_ERR)"  location:

> > "https://f1.mozillamessaging.com/0.3.1/share/panel/index.jsLine: 62"]

[James Burke]

Do you have the BetterPrivacy add-on installed? Or have you disallowed
cookies and/or localStorage (DOM Storage)?

James

[Sebastian]

Cookies are allowed, how do I disable (DOM) localStorage? I have no on-
disk cache because I'm using an SSD. I don't have the BetterPrivacy
addon, I have NoScript but it doesn't report any blocking.

[Vincent Clavien]

I'm having a bug here.

Each time I shared a link (only two so far), I noticed that Firefox freezed for about 10-15 seconds.
I finally found why: it turns out that for each link I shared, F1 created several hundreds (about 340) identical bookmarks in my bookmarks menu!
Needless to say, one bookmark per link would have been enough. ;-)

Am I the only one with this issue?

(I'm not home at the moment so I can't say for sure which version of Firefox or F1 it was, but I will be able to provide this information later if needed.)

[James Burke]

On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 3:50 AM, Vincent Clavien
<vincent...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm having a bug here.
>
> Each time I shared a link (only two so far), I noticed that Firefox freezed
> for about 10-15 seconds.
> I finally found why: it turns out that for each link I shared, F1 created
> several hundreds (about 340) identical bookmarks in my bookmarks menu!
> Needless to say, one bookmark per link would have been enough. ;-)
>
> Am I the only one with this issue?

This was brought up in another thread. We did a fix, and as of a
couple hours ago, version 0.8.0 of the F1 add-on should fix this
problem. At least the multiple bookmarking problem. Let us know if the
sharing still takes a long time with the 0.8.0 version of the add-on.

James

[James Burke]

On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 12:48 AM, Sebastian
<sebastian...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Cookies are allowed, how do I disable (DOM) localStorage? I have no on-
> disk cache because I'm using an SSD. I don't have the BetterPrivacy
> addon, I have NoScript but it doesn't report any blocking.

If you look in the about:config window and search for "dom.storage",
it should have

dom.storage.default_quota: 5120
dom.storage.enabled: true

that would indicate if DOM storage is enabled.

James

[Sebastian]

Yes, it is enabled with the default values you mentioned.

On 16 Mrz., 21:14, James Burke <jrbu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 12:48 AM, Sebastian
>

[Phil Wolff]

On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 11:07 AM, James Burke <jrb...@gmail.com> wrote:
Right now we limit the API call to Google to retrieve a max of 500
contacts. Is your contact list bigger than that? We have talked about
trying to open that up to a larger number, even go unlimited.

Yes, contact lists routinely grow large for several use cases:

• People who use browser based email at work.
• People whose jobs require talking with people (sales, support, collaboration, coordination, etc.)
  
• People who are active in social networks on purpose, for fun or for work.
• People who've become even slightly famous with respect to a specific public.

If you'll recall, reporter Robert Scoble made a huge stink when Facebook capped his account at 5000, not 500.

I wonder if Google would return your contacts in a list sorted by Google's estimate of relevance to the account holder. So the list quality (chances of being the person you seek) wouldn't be flat but would offer high returns on the first 500 and diminishing returns on successive queries.

Phil Wolff
managing editor, Skype Journal
http://SkypeJournal.com
pwo...@skypejournal.com
skype:evanwolf
+1-510-444-8234 San Francisco
+1-510-316-9773 mobile
http://www.linkedin.com/in/philwolff
http://www.facebook.com/philwolff
http://twitter.com/evanwolf
http://dataportability.org

On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 11:07 AM, James Burke <jrb...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 4:08 PM, Caspy7 <cas...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Despite having done multiple manual refreshes, the address book
> available for gmail is the same as the first time I set up F1 several
> versions ago - and at that it appears to still be missing contacts.
> This means any contacts I add right now will not show up in the list
> (even with a refresh).
> In my case this means the person who I want to email the most does not
> show up.  (I normally use my native client for emailing so she wasn't
> initially in the gmail address book.)

> Also, I thought I'd read that in the last version of F1 when I type @
> in a public tweet that I would see an autocomplete list from my
> friends, but I am not seeing this.

The @ completion is only available if "direct message" is selected in
the dropdown instead of "public" and there is @ name completion in
that field.

James

[Vincent Clavien]

I did a few tests and it appears the bug has been corrected indeed. :-)

Thanks for your answer!

[Caspy7]

Sorry for the delay in my reply.
Yes, my address book is greater than 500.

> Right now we limit the API call to Google to retrieve a max of 500
> contacts. Is your contact list bigger than that? We have talked about
> trying to open that up to a larger number, even go unlimited.

Please do!

> > Also, I thought I'd read that in the last version of F1 when I type @
> > in a public tweet that I would see an autocomplete list from my
> > friends, but I am not seeing this.
>
> The @ completion is only available if "direct message" is selected in
> the dropdown instead of "public" and there is @ name completion in
> that field.

Might I suggest a behavior in which the dropdown is invoked anywhere
in the public text box whenever you type @. The iGoogle widget called
TwitterGadget that I use does this and it makes mentioning, a frequent
occurrence, quite easy.

[Jonathan Protzenko]

Hi Bryan,

I can't share
http://www.universalsubtitles.org/en/videos/NNxEqfuQSaPN/info/Mozilla%20Firefox:%20A%20Different%20Kind%20of%20Browser/
to my facebook account, I get a "We're sorry, there was an error sending
your share. (#100) picture URL is not properly formatted" error.

jonathan

[Bryan Clark]

I believe that's the same bug we're tracking here:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=642905

We thought it had to do with the 404 response but it seems like it is
some other kind of generic error. Facebook does seem to allow that
(and other 404) pages to be shared through their UI.

[Ludovic Hirlimann]

I'm getting the following errors once in a while when sharing :

An error occurred during a connection to f1.mozillamessaging.com:443.

The OCSP server experienced an internal error.

(Error code: sec_error_ocsp_server_error)

Am I the only one ?

--
Ludo

[Shane Caraveo]

There's some error in validating the certificate that f1 is sending you,
no I'm not experiencing that...anyone else?

> *Ludo*

[Shane Caraveo]

I would like to request that everyone start using new subjects for their
emails, it makes it easier to scan the messages for specific issues.

Thanks
Shane

[Shane Caraveo]

You're mixing a couple different issues. The url that protz is showing
has a bad url in the open graph tags and we pass that through to
facebook. The first url in bug 642905 is the 404 issue.
Shane

[Johan Larsson]

I'm on version 0.8.2 and F1 really slows down when I share a link.
Nearly to the point where it's unusable.

Is there anything I can do to provide you with more information?

On 16 mar, 21:12, James Burke <jrbu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 3:50 AM, Vincent Clavien
>

[Bryan Clark]

Hi Johan -

We have a bug open on this to try to determine the cause. Do you think
you could add your details to that bug? What operating system you use
and if you have steps to reproduce it.

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=642629

Thanks,
~ Bryan

[yousuf tafhim]

Im using FireFox 4 with F1  0.8.2. Whenever I share it, the page is bookmarked as well. Is that an issue with F1?

By the way F1 is really awesome.

[Johan Larsson]

You can turn that feature off in the settings for F1. I personally
find it really handy to be able to quickly find links that I've shared
in the past.

[Delirium tremens]

If I remember correctly, a person said in those Mozilla Labs design awards that Firefox should be aware of a user's contacts. Then, you made an add-on to import and export a person's contacts. Then, you made an add-on to share with a person's contacts.

When I see the paper airplane icon, I think:
- "Firefox may have my contact list", because if it's sharing with Twitter or Facebook, it can be just sending my message to it without having direct access to my contact list.
- "Firefox may have an API for interacting with my contact list", because Firefox is very important, so it has a very good api and an add-on list, amo is important, so it has a good api and no add-on list, firefox share is not important, so it doesn't have an API nor add-on list.
The programmer will think it's hard to check with the DOM Inspector and the Scratchpad and won't even check by the end if Firefox has my contact list and an API for my contact list.

Please, put the user's contacts in about:contacts, make an API for Firefox Contacts and create a link to about:contacts labelled Firefox Contacts somewhere visible. To make things consistent, I saw Addon Manager, Permission Manager... can I see Contact Manager instead of Firefox Contacts?