I have reset a computer with Weave on,
and downloaded everything from the cloud.
Not everything was going well:
1) a folder with +500 bookmarks, ordered manually alphabetically
bookmarks with a W, X, Y, or Z were placed behind the ones with an A
2) Some folders are left behind in the 'unsorted bookmarks' folder
in stead of being placed on the right place in the 'bookmarks menu'
In both cases the folders were opened on the main computer,
but everything closed on the second computer (where I was syncing)
I controlled Weave was ready downloading all the bookmarks from the
cloud.
Further I don't know what was the reason, I directly reset the cloud
so the bookmarks on the other computers where not merged...
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 4:26 PM, Maaren <maarten...@gmail.com> wrote: > Not everything was going well: > 1) a folder with +500 bookmarks, ordered manually alphabetically > bookmarks with a W, X, Y, or Z were placed behind the ones with an A > 2) Some folders are left behind in the 'unsorted bookmarks' folder > in stead of being placed on the right place in the 'bookmarks menu'
Do you remember if all your bookmarks were synced? about:weave indicates if there's still data that this computer hasn't received.
Because Weave syncs just a part of your data at a time, it might get some bookmarks/folders before others such as a bookmark without its containing folder yet. So Weave will temporarily put the bookmark in unsorted, but it'll move it to the right folder when it gets synced -- this is so that you can still access the bookmark if you searched for it from the location bar.
Additionally, if a folder has some bookmarks, they might be in the wrong order until they're all shown in the folder. For each bookmark, it knows which one it needs to be put behind, so there can be chains of correctly ordered bookmarks, but the two chains might not be correctly ordered relative to each other because there's a missing link that hasn't synced.
We've lessened this issue with Weave 0.8pre1 by being smarter how often and how much we sync, so you should be able to get all your bookmarks in one go, and Weave will correctly order them.
Sorry for not replying, but the 'email me when replied' is not on by
default...
As far as I can tel now after this time:
that of syncing only a part of the data, I asked about that before, so
I knew about that
I can't see it anymore in the log, but I had looked if anything was
synced
(I think I even had pressed 'sync' some times again)
I have just put them all back in the right order,
and never done a clean install anymore after that (not been necessary
since that too)
On 16 okt, 20:03, Edward Lee <edi...@mozilla.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 4:26 PM, Maaren <maarten...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Not everything was going well:
> > 1) a folder with +500 bookmarks, ordered manually alphabetically
> > bookmarks with a W, X, Y, or Z were placed behind the ones with an A
> > 2) Some folders are left behind in the 'unsorted bookmarks' folder
> > in stead of being placed on the right place in the 'bookmarks menu'
> Do you remember if all your bookmarks were synced? about:weave
> indicates if there's still data that this computer hasn't received.
> Because Weave syncs just a part of your data at a time, it might get
> some bookmarks/folders before others such as a bookmark without its
> containing folder yet. So Weave will temporarily put the bookmark in
> unsorted, but it'll move it to the right folder when it gets synced --
> this is so that you can still access the bookmark if you searched for
> it from the location bar.
> Additionally, if a folder has some bookmarks, they might be in the
> wrong order until they're all shown in the folder. For each bookmark,
> it knows which one it needs to be put behind, so there can be chains
> of correctly ordered bookmarks, but the two chains might not be
> correctly ordered relative to each other because there's a missing
> link that hasn't synced.
> We've lessened this issue with Weave 0.8pre1 by being smarter how
> often and how much we sync, so you should be able to get all your
> bookmarks in one go, and Weave will correctly order them.
> Do you remember if all your bookmarks were synced? about:weave
> indicates if there's still data that this computer hasn't received.
> Because Weave syncs just a part of your data at a time, it might get
> some bookmarks/folders before others such as a bookmark without its
> containing folder yet. So Weave will temporarily put the bookmark in
> unsorted, but it'll move it to the right folder when it gets synced --
> this is so that you can still access the bookmark if you searched for
> it from the location bar.
> Additionally, if a folder has some bookmarks, they might be in the
> wrong order until they're all shown in the folder. For each bookmark,
> it knows which one it needs to be put behind, so there can be chains
> of correctly ordered bookmarks, but the two chains might not be
> correctly ordered relative to each other because there's a missing
> link that hasn't synced.
> We've lessened this issue with Weave 0.8pre1 by being smarter how
> often and how much we sync, so you should be able to get all your
> bookmarks in one go, and Weave will correctly order them.
I have a problem with bookmarks that may be related.
Some bookmarks cannot be accessed through tree views (sidebar/
library). They appear when a filter is applied. A few associated
moz_bookmarks rows were examined. For all moz_bookmarks.ftk = NULL,
breaking the link to moz_places. At least in one case a parent folder
row existed and was correctly linked. Currently all know missing
bookmarks have a common parent folder. It too doesn't show up in tree
views, but exists in moz_bookmarks.
These bookmarks/folder(s) predate use of Weave. Initially it was used
to merge three profiles. Two were effectively clones, one copied from
the first. They diverged over a month or two. There was no transfer of
data between those 2 and the other profile. Bookmark folder
hierarchies were similar for all. The same bookmarks/folder(s) are
missing in all profiles. When last checked moz_bookmarks had just
under 10,000 rows.
A single profile was the original source of missing bookmarks. It is
possible that the corruption existed and was unnoticed before syncing.
Backups can be used to determine state prior to syncing.
I was not able to find documentation on the merge process. Profiles
were backed up. There was no apparent problem after syncing.
Syncing did less merging of folder hierarchies then desired. It was
hoped that hierarchies would be merged and duplicates eliminated using
logic parallel to a direct marketing list merge/purge process. In
retrospect that seems unrealistic.
A full consistency analysis of Places.sqlite will determine the extent
of corruption. If it is limited to ftk nulls in moz_bookmarks and
moz_places rows exist it can be corrected with a few lines of SQL.
> Do you remember if all your bookmarks were synced? about:weave
> indicates if there's still data that this computer hasn't received.
> Because Weave syncs just a part of your data at a time, it might get
> some bookmarks/folders before others such as a bookmark without its
> containing folder yet. So Weave will temporarily put the bookmark in
> unsorted, but it'll move it to the right folder when it gets synced --
> this is so that you can still access the bookmark if you searched for
> it from the location bar.
> Additionally, if a folder has some bookmarks, they might be in the
> wrong order until they're all shown in the folder. For each bookmark,
> it knows which one it needs to be put behind, so there can be chains
> of correctly ordered bookmarks, but the two chains might not be
> correctly ordered relative to each other because there's a missing
> link that hasn't synced.
> We've lessened this issue with Weave 0.8pre1 by being smarter how
> often and how much we sync, so you should be able to get all your
> bookmarks in one go, and Weave will correctly order them.
I have a problem with bookmarks that may be related.
Some bookmarks cannot be accessed through tree views (sidebar/
library). They appear when a filter is applied. A few associated
moz_bookmarks rows were examined. For all moz_bookmarks.ftk = NULL,
breaking the link to moz_places. At least in one case a parent folder
row existed and was correctly linked. Currently all know missing
bookmarks have a common parent folder. It too doesn't show up in tree
views, but exists in moz_bookmarks.
These bookmarks/folder(s) predate use of Weave. Initially it was used
to merge three profiles. Two were effectively clones, one copied from
the first. They diverged over a month or two. There was no transfer of
data between those 2 and the other profile. Bookmark folder
hierarchies were similar for all. The same bookmarks/folder(s) are
missing in all profiles. When last checked moz_bookmarks had just
under 10,000 rows.
A single profile was the original source of missing bookmarks. It is
possible that the corruption existed and was unnoticed before syncing.
Backups can be used to determine state prior to syncing.
I was not able to find documentation on the merge process. Profiles
were backed up. There was no apparent problem after syncing.
Syncing did less merging of folder hierarchies then desired. It was
hoped that hierarchies would be merged and duplicates eliminated using
logic parallel to a direct marketing list merge/purge process. In
retrospect that seems unrealistic.
A full consistency analysis of Places.sqlite will determine the extent
of corruption. If it is limited to ftk nulls in moz_bookmarks and
moz_places rows exist it can be corrected with a few lines of SQL.
I'm using 0.8 and I have the same problem here.
Some of my bookmarks were transferred but into 'unsorted bookmarks'
and the folder where they have to be is empty.
Even after some time of waiting and a few attempts to sync it
manually.
Initial checkin of my bookmarks was yesterday and today they are still
in the wrong place on the other pc.
This is really annoying : I have a huge hierarchy of folders (some of
them with the same name), and every sync they are all messed up, in a
different way on each computer…
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 2:30 PM, Kemenaran <kemena...@gmail.com> wrote:
> +1
> This is really annoying : I have a huge hierarchy of folders (some of > them with the same name), and every sync they are all messed up, in a > different way on each computer…
> Is there a way we could vote for this bug ?
Are you still seeing this bug with 0.9 or 1.0betapre1?
This is exactly my issue, trying to sync 3 computers and the bookmarks are a
complete train wreck. What is going on? I thought that this is exactly what
Weave is meant to fix and keep in line!
Please help,
- Ronnie
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 5:42 PM, Ragavan S <ragavan.sriniva...@gmail.com>wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 2:30 PM, Kemenaran <kemena...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > +1
> > This is really annoying : I have a huge hierarchy of folders (some of
> > them with the same name), and every sync they are all messed up, in a
> > different way on each computer…
> > Is there a way we could vote for this bug ?
> Are you still seeing this bug with 0.9 or 1.0betapre1?
> I have exactly same problem. bookmarks are not in the right place
> anymore after sync. I'm using weave 1.0b1 and 8a4ef7ae14a3 server.
> After sync i also got some bookmarks that are taget as "Apps" into
> folder named "Apps", maybe here is the reason for all that bookmarks
> out of place.
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