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Ryan Snyder  
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 More options Jul 7 2010, 7:39 pm
From: Ryan Snyder <ryansnyder...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 16:39:50 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Jul 7 2010 7:39 pm
Subject: Naming sudoSocial
I've heard a number of complaints about the name for sudoSocial,
whether it's non-geeks who don't get the concept of "sudo", to looking
at first glance like the name actually states "suicidal".  I've been
thinking about what a better name for the SudoSocial project might be,
and thought I would throw out a couple options:

1 - Find a name for something very specific to the functionality of
the technology.  For example - Soapbox.  A Soapbox is a box that you
place on the ground, wherever you want, stand on it and say whatever
you want to whomever you want.  You have control over what, where,
when, why.  It's also easy to brand.  But it definitely does have
connotations that are not ideal, such as eliciting arrogance or having
a political focus.

2 - Find a name that has nothing to do with the technology, which is
very much akin to how many Mozilla projects are named.  Firefox,
Seamonkey, Thunderbird, etc.  Grab an animal name that you like and
attach an elemental noun to the front of it.  HailRobin.  WindPigeon.
DrizzleCat.  The name won't inherently describe the project, but
creating a succinct elevator pitch for the product will allow users to
quickly associate the project purpose to the project name.

These are just ideas that I'm tossing out and am hoping to spark some
name ideas.

Keep up the great work - I'm glad that this project is picking up a
little steam!

Cheers,
Ryan Snyder


 
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Ozten  
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 More options Jul 8 2010, 10:43 am
From: Ozten <austin...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2010 07:43:05 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Jul 8 2010 10:43 am
Subject: Re: Naming sudoSocial
Hi Ryan,
Great point and good suggestions.

sudoSocial is defiantly a temporary name and I'm looking forward to
more suggestions.

I agree Soapbox is pretty good, but isn't quite right.

I <3 the African Golden Weaver [1] which makes incredible nests [2].
This name has issues with a Mozilla Weave, which is now Mozilla Sync.
Weaver and the image of the nest are good, because you are taking the
various bits from around the internet and weaving them to publish your
homepage (nest).

I was talking to Chris Finke last night, who develops Add-ons, and he
talked about how he got a name for "Foxfound"[3].
Let's keep the ideas coming!

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_Golden-weaver
[2] http://animals.howstuffworks.com/birds/weaver-info.htm
[3] http://www.mahalo.com/answers/help-me-name-my-software


 
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MJae  
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 More options Jul 10 2010, 8:46 pm
From: MJae <mj.advinc...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 17:46:42 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sat, Jul 10 2010 8:46 pm
Subject: Re: Naming sudoSocial
I'm thinking of the beaver...

"Beavers are known for building dams, canals, and lodges (homes)."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beaver

Though, I know it is almost "weave". But weave is now sync!

Just me talking...

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Austin King  
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 More options Jul 11 2010, 12:28 pm
From: Austin King <sh...@ozten.com>
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 16:28:43 +0000
Local: Sun, Jul 11 2010 12:28 pm
Subject: Re: Naming sudoSocial
Hi MJae,
I see the issue with Launchpad OpenID.

Please remove the '-' from the username it suggests.

Example:
https://launchpad.net/~foo-gmail
would suggest
foo-gmail as the username, and sudoSocial doesn't handle it well.

So foo-gmail should be foogmail or foogmail.

If you go to https://sudosocial.me/auth/confirm_profile
and remove the '-', then you will be able to use the app.

Sorry about that, I"ve filed a bug:
http://github.com/ozten/sudosocial/issues/issue/11


 
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MJae  
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 More options Jul 12 2010, 1:42 am
From: MJae <mj.advinc...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 22:42:29 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, Jul 12 2010 1:42 am
Subject: Re: Naming sudoSocial
Thanks for that!

But I do believe you replied in the wrong thread...

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 More options Jul 12 2010, 1:48 am
From: MJae <mj.advinc...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 22:48:37 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, Jul 12 2010 1:48 am
Subject: Re: Naming sudoSocial
I was confused a bit but it did work...

But I think it'll be better if SudoSocial will work out the "-"...

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Ozten  
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 More options Jul 12 2010, 11:41 pm
From: Ozten <austin...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 20:41:31 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, Jul 12 2010 11:41 pm
Subject: Re: Naming sudoSocial
On Jul 10, 5:46 pm, MJae <mj.advinc...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm thinking of the beaver...

> "Beavers are known for building dams, canals, and lodges (homes)."

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beaver

The beaver is promising! I like that it also builds a structure by
gathering lots of little items from around the forest.

 
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Ryan Snyder  
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 More options Jul 13 2010, 12:06 pm
From: Ryan Snyder <ryansnyder...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 09:06:44 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Jul 13 2010 12:06 pm
Subject: Re: Naming sudoSocial
I really like the concept of using Beaver as the name, as both
descriptors equate what sudoSocial is trying to capture.  My concern
is that Beaver is used as a nickname for female genitalia, and that
the project would never be taken serious because of its name.

The European Beaver and the North American Beaver both belong to the
"Castor" genus, so naming it something like Wind Castor would also be
a possibility.  However, there is another open source project named
the Castor Project - http://www.castor.org .   If we prefix the name
with an elemental noun, will that allow us to have enough distinction
from the other open source project?  There's also the Family name
"Castoridae".

- Ryan

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Austin King  
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 More options Jul 13 2010, 1:11 pm
From: Austin King <sh...@ozten.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 10:11:16 -0700
Local: Tues, Jul 13 2010 1:11 pm
Subject: Re: Naming sudoSocial
I can understand your concerns about the English connotations of Beaver.

Elements... Wind is good. The platform would help tame "the firehose
of information". So natural elements like:
* Wind
* Geyser
* Eruptions (Volcano)
* Pyroclastic Flow
or elements that stop a Firehose
* Ice
* Glacier
* Avalanche

Castor is an interesting idea. Especially if we could find a French
word for an element that worked. I'll ping Geekshadow to see if he has
thoughts for this thread.

Also, we should explore outside of the animal. Dam and lodges are
created by beavers. Visually, you can use a Beaver, but the name would
be about the "nest" it creates.
WindDam
WindLodge
IceLodge
GeyserDam

I think the best thing is to keep brainstorming and listing lots of
names. Great work Ryan and MJae!


 
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MJae  
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 More options Jul 14 2010, 12:21 am
From: MJae <mj.advinc...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 21:21:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: Naming sudoSocial
Wow. I didn't know that. But thanks for the information.

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MJae  
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 More options Jul 14 2010, 12:25 am
From: MJae <mj.advinc...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 21:25:01 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Jul 14 2010 12:25 am
Subject: Re: Naming sudoSocial
Thanks.

Oh, yeah, that too.

It's just like what we users do when we use SudoSocial: we get tiny
bits and pieces from around the web to build our home stream.

It's just too bad that there is a negative connotation of the word.

One question: Are we gonna go for the "element + animal/something"
else name format? Or can we throw in other stuff that can sound good
and appropriate for the project?

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 More options Jul 14 2010, 1:52 pm
From: Ozten <austin...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 10:52:52 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Jul 14 2010 1:52 pm
Subject: Re: Naming sudoSocial

> One question: Are we gonna go for the "element + animal/something"
> else name format? Or can we throw in other stuff that can sound good
> and appropriate for the project?

Let's throw in other stuff too!

 
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Ryan Snyder  
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 More options Jul 14 2010, 2:39 pm
From: Ryan Snyder <ryansnyder...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 11:39:44 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Jul 14 2010 2:39 pm
Subject: Re: Naming sudoSocial
I really like the idea of using Dam in the name, because like you both
mentioned, it's a home that is created by gathering and collecting
multiple external bits and pieces.  Words with 2 syllables preceding
the word seem to sound better than words with 1 syllable preceding it.
Some options -

FunnelDam
RiverDam
TorrentDam
WaterDam

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MJae  
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 More options Jul 15 2010, 1:07 am
From: MJae <mj.advinc...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 22:07:34 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Jul 15 2010 1:07 am
Subject: Re: Naming sudoSocial
Well, nice!

And here are some words that came to my min during the grueling 2-and-
a-quarter-hour travel from the university to my place:
Spider; Vineyard; Tattoo

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 More options Jul 21 2010, 11:55 pm
From: MJae <mj.advinc...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 20:55:35 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Jul 21 2010 11:55 pm
Subject: Re: Naming sudoSocial
Oyster!

You know how pearls are formed.

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 More options Jul 22 2010, 7:11 pm
From: Ozten <austin...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 16:11:49 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Jul 22 2010 7:11 pm
Subject: Re: Naming sudoSocial
CloudBot
CloudTron
Cistern

 
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 More options Aug 13 2010, 2:18 pm
From: Ozten <austin...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 11:18:08 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Aug 13 2010 2:18 pm
Subject: Re: Naming sudoSocial

> RiverDam

I'm thinking we should call the next release RiverDam and try it on
for size... Here is a sketch of a logo
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ozten/4888252205/

I can see a Beaver as the mascot, even if it isn't in the Project's
name ;)


 
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 More options Aug 13 2010, 3:17 pm
From: Ryan Snyder <ryansnyder...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 12:17:42 -0700
Local: Fri, Aug 13 2010 3:17 pm
Subject: Re: Naming sudoSocial

Sounds great.  I definitely think that a beaver would make a great mascot
for the project.  Even if we don't use Beaver in the name, the Beaver has
such a strong influence to dams.  And they're dam cute too.

Could you crowdsource the logo making through Creative Collective?  Or maybe
Sean Martell would be interested in creating a logo?


 
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 More options Aug 16 2010, 7:51 pm
From: "Antoine Turmel (GeekShadow)" <geeksha...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 16:51:17 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, Aug 16 2010 7:51 pm
Subject: Re: Naming sudoSocial
RiverDam sounds cool :)

 
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