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cb

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Feb 26, 2011, 7:15:17 PM2/26/11
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Who or what will put an end to this madness?

Emergency! Pathogen New to Science Found in Roundup Ready GM Crops?
USDA senior scientist sends “emergency” warning to US Secretary of
Agriculture Tom Vilsack on a new plant pathogen in Roundup Ready GM
soybean and corn that may be responsible for high rates of infertility
and spontaneous abortions in livestock Dr. Mae-Wan Ho

http://www.i-sis.org.uk/newPathogenInRoundupReadyGMCrops.php

nick

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Feb 26, 2011, 7:21:36 PM2/26/11
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cb...@1...Mark my words, you will hear similar one day regarding to a
connection between sunscreen and skin cancer. It's only a matter of
time.
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nick

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Feb 26, 2011, 8:11:24 PM2/26/11
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Could this be the beginnings of what could become “civil war”.....

“Arizona Lawmaker Proposes State-Run Militia to Protect Border”
http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/dpp/news/immigration/harper-state-run-militia-01042011

cb

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Feb 26, 2011, 8:40:06 PM2/26/11
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Saturday, February 26, 2011
Food Inflation and the Worldwide Economic Collapse
http://geraldcelentechannel.blogspot.com/

cb

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Feb 26, 2011, 8:48:19 PM2/26/11
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Nothing of the sort would surprise me anymore, Nick.
What used to be fields of endeavour for improving human health have
been commercialised and monetised and turned into enterprises where
profit becomes the supreme motive. Well, with that sort of framework,
the system is incentivised to generate as much ill health and disease
as possible, so that it can then cash in massively on its potions and
cures. The parallel trends in developments in health and food
production are nothing if not alarming, and outright frightening.

cb

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Feb 26, 2011, 8:57:00 PM2/26/11
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Oh, and add to that list, of course, the provision of currencies to
the economies of the world.

RT: Goldman Sachs – $5.4 billion worth of shady practices
http://maxkeiser.com/2011/02/26/rt-goldman-sachs-5-4-billion-worth-of-shady-practices/

The trend is the same: Monopolise and take control of some essential
need and do anything and everything to squeeze the living life out of
people for the provision of your services in that area.

The zion boiz are experts in how to do this. They buy off and co-opt
the politicians and regulators who are supposed to protect the people
precisely against scamsters and parasites like them, so that in the
end, the people only have one option to shake themselves free of the
blight on humanity's back that they are.

cb

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Feb 26, 2011, 9:03:15 PM2/26/11
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On the Edge with Gerald Celente
February 26th, 2011 by stacyherbert
Max interviews Gerald Celente.

http://maxkeiser.com/2011/02/26/on-the-edge-with-gerald-celente/
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cb

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Feb 26, 2011, 9:23:49 PM2/26/11
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Gerald Celente, above:

"If you want to know about hypocrisy, it is spelled "Hillary Clinton."
LOL

cb

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Feb 26, 2011, 9:36:22 PM2/26/11
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Hear, hear, Nick!

I thought this comment from the Celente - Keiser interview was
interesting. I will post it in in its entirety:


Original bob
Feb 26, 2011 at 11:54 pm
Zeropoint energy maybe?

When you look at the history of nuclear energy, war mongering options
(i.e. bombs!) was what made uranium powered reactors win out against
Thorium based reactors.

If you have 1 1/2 hours to get informed, watch a google tech talk on
thorium reactors – you’ll also get a history of why thorium was
ignored even though it’s inherently leads to a safe reactor design and
you’ll find out just how good it is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZR0UKxNPh8

If you only have a few minutes, here’s a highly condensed version
that’s only 16 mins long

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWUeBSoEnRk

India is supposed to be firing up it’s thorium reactor this year.
Other countries have announced they are looking into thorium based
reactors. China has also announced it’s starting a thorium reactor
program with the notion of securing patents as well.

Thorium, unlike uranium is plentiful and the energy derived from it
makes it vastly more efficient than uranium.

The US lied the world on oil as it could for many years control supply
– this is why it prefers uranium, a small number of countries hold the
worlds uranium which makes control easier. Thorium is so plentiful
that there would be no control thus severely limiting the US’s ability
to stick it’s nose into other countries business.

nick

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Feb 26, 2011, 10:02:59 PM2/26/11
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PRECISELY!!! cb. This is why I don't put much weight on "investing in
oil". The "coalition" is ahead of the game and the inbreds know it!
The motor vehicle of the not too distant future will be built by the
"coalition" and will not depend on oil for propulsion. Then the
inbreds can play with their $200 or even $1,000 oil, they can keep it.
If Lindsey Williams info is true, about the US being sole supplier at
high price, then I am convinced that the inbreds are dumber that
initially thought....ahhh genetics can be cruel.

cb

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Feb 26, 2011, 10:07:17 PM2/26/11
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Good points, Nick. Still on the topic:

China Takes Lead in Race for Clean Nuclear Power
http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2011/02/china-thorium-power/

dc

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Feb 26, 2011, 10:44:47 PM2/26/11
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Good links cb! I guess oil will still be used for motor vehicles, but thorium nuclear power sounds exciting.

More exciting is that the inbreds won't be able to control it! Yes, we are fortunate not to be cursed with minds like theirs!

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dc

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The plebs are at it again in Egypt.

Egypt army forcefully disperses mass Cairo protest
http://www.haaretz.com/news/international/egypt-army-forcefully-disperses-mass-cairo-protest-1.345804

Egyptian military stalling transition
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/167214.html

nick

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Feb 27, 2011, 12:01:48 AM2/27/11
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Yes, I have no doubt that as 2012 approaches, we will be bombarded
with a multitude of propaganda to spook us into the "end of the world"
syndrome.
By all means, enjoys those movies, (they do wonders with CGI these
days) but don't fall for it. I enjoyed the superman movies also.

dc

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Feb 27, 2011, 12:45:36 AM2/27/11
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HeraldSun poll - 85% of readers reject carbon tax http://is.gd/LsHN0g

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Feb 27, 2011, 12:45:48 AM2/27/11
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Galaxy Poll - only one third of Australians believe that man-made global warming is real http://is.gd/d63G8t

dc

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Feb 27, 2011, 12:46:10 AM2/27/11
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Martin Bryant's mum says 'there is no evidence' | 60 Minutes http://is.gd/saWMkD

cb

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Feb 27, 2011, 6:00:25 AM2/27/11
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dc @ 13 - I think that Nick's suggestion was that even cars will be
running on other things than petrol in the future, although I imagine
that such a changeover would take decades and would mean a tremendous
capital outlay from people to change cars, unless a relatively cheap
modification would suffice. I have been wondering for a long time now
as to why the world has not been transitioning over to gas powered
vehicles, cng and lpg. After all, this is proven technology and the
infrastructure is already there, so I am not sure what has been
causing the hold up.

nick

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Feb 27, 2011, 6:44:15 AM2/27/11
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yes cb...there are several forms of car engine that is currently being
refined for commercial application. Currently, many manufacturers are
playing with hydrogen fueled concept with increasing success rate. The
most difficult part now remains the refuelling stations....and of
course, politics.

Details of manufacturers can be found here:

http://www.hydrogencarsnow.com/hyundai-i-blue.htm

cb

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Feb 27, 2011, 8:34:49 AM2/27/11
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Talking of hydrogen fuelled cars, I wonder how it would compare cost-
wise on an upfront and on a cents per mile basis. That it burns clean
is a major plus for hydrogen, of course, but what does it cost and how
polluting is it to produce it? How do they make commercial hydrogen?
Not through elelctolysis, I assume.

dc

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Feb 27, 2011, 8:35:14 AM2/27/11
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The problem with hydrogen is that it's not naturally abundant on earth, you have to seperate hydrogen and oxygen from water via hydrolysis which requires electricity. I can't see hydrogen replacing fossil fuels unless electricity becomes much cheaper.

Yes, I believe political forces have stunted scientific progress. By how much I'm not sure. I'm not sure I buy those "free energy" claims either.

dc

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Feb 27, 2011, 8:43:56 AM2/27/11
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If they made a serious effort to develop space technology they could harvest hydrogen from the nearest gas giant lol

They could also harvest helium-3 which they could use to try and get nuclear fusion to work (as distinct from nuclear fission). Fusion would deliver a lot more bang for your buck

But they just shut down the shuttle program, so I guess that option's out for a while. It was a white elephant anyway. I read that the space program got buried in a heap of read tape which raised the costs of getting into space while technology developpment stayed stagnent.

It's typical and rather sad, when you think of what humanity might have accomplished by now if not for the lame brain parasites holding us back.

cb

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Feb 27, 2011, 9:18:12 AM2/27/11
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dc - Is your understanding that commercially produced hydrogen does in
fact come from electrolysis? If that is correct, then it is bloody
inefficient, because you lose a lot of energy to heat to start with to
produce the hydrogen, and then again when you convert the hydrogen
back to kynetic energy while burning it in your car. Using same
electricity in electric cars would cut out a lot of mucking about with
a highly explosive gas and would possibly end up leaking less energy
through the battery storage system.

Incidentally, I have done some fun experimentation producing my own
hydrogen. I sometimes use it to blow up baloons for the kids that are
lighter than air, which is far more fun for them. I have also put a
match to some of these baloons and I can tell you that it produces a
pretty good bang. hahahaaaa

On one occasion, I filled a plastic water bottle with it and lit it at
the mouth, expecting it to fly across the room like a rocket, but
instead of doing that, it blew out the bottom of the bottle with a
mighty big bang. So, it is a pretty volatile and potentially dangerous
gas. It burns instantly and explosively, unlike petrol or diesel.

I finally found a bottle that was happy to play rocket, by the way,
and that was fun. Actually, I remember seeing some youtube videos on
this some time ago, people mucking around with hydrogen. I will post
some links here.

Ah, this one is pretty much how it works:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6ejjNsJegk&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ko5VpvE2btY&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9RZbtA9HVA&NR=1&feature=fvwp
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dc

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Feb 27, 2011, 9:46:41 PM2/27/11
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cb - that is my understanding yes. I agree, electric cars are more viable than hydrogen, although the gas is the most explosive in existsance, but I think electrolysis is a net loss, so those hydrogen cars seem more like posturing than a serious attempt to design cars that run on an alternative energy source.

cb

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Feb 27, 2011, 10:15:00 PM2/27/11
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dc - Hydrogen can also be generated by combining hydrochloric acid
(pool acid) and aluminium, and also by combining liquid caustic soda
and aluminium. That is why I was wondering about what method they are
using to produce hydrogen in commercial quantities.

dc

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Feb 27, 2011, 11:50:04 PM2/27/11
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Oh ok, yes true there are many other options. I don't really know how hydrogen will be produced on a massive scale and whether or not it is a viable replacement for fossil fuels, but I'm guessing it's not.
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