Balance needed- someone hack Exxon Mobil & Coal lobby group emails too!
argi...@gmail.com
I am sick of hearing about people using the hacked emails as a reason
for trashing the science on climate change.
Can someone please even the score and hack the clean coal lobby
groups, Exxon Mobil and various denial groups that constantly massage
the figures and mislead the public.
People are using the handful of tiny references of these scientists to
try and support old denial arguments again but we all know that on the
other side of the argument there is blatant manipulation of figures
and deliberate ignorance of facts and exclusion of things that point
to the truth.
We need to expose them too. Of course, this is unethical, an eye for
an eye. But fairness must be restored.
Whoever pulled off this hack would be hailed as a hero for centuries
to come. They would get in the history books and will have helped save
the planet- and will be proven to have had just cause.
naturecreekfarm
Oh, wait...the NSA nabbed him. Sorry about that. It seems that energy
is a National Security communication issue, and hackers are actually
"terrorists".
Um...what does that say about organizations like FoxNews which rely on
hacked information?
As the saying goes, the difference between fact and fiction is that
fiction has to make sense.
Perhaps that's why historical fiction novels are so popular: they are
easier to understand than reality.
Dan
Richard Kay
> Does anyone know a skilled hacker?
>
> I am sick of hearing about people using the hacked emails as a reason
> for trashing the science on climate change.
Those who want to deny what science does know about something
will use any excuse to do so. I wasn't aware until the
denialists bigged up the importance of this hack that
anyone really thought the CRU at the University of East Anglia to be
the be all and end all of climate research.
> Can someone please even the score and hack the clean coal lobby
> groups, Exxon Mobil and various denial groups that constantly massage
> the figures and mislead the public.
Probably better for someone who wants someone else with technical skills
they have not got to risk going to jail over something criminal
either to spend their own time acquiring these skills if they
consider these ends to justify these means, or alternatively to
research what climate change denial groups have published or what is published
about them in order to expose where they get their funding and
inconsistencies and cover ups available within the published or
researchable record, e.g. by going through their garbage cans and
reconstructing shredded documents. BTW, in case you are interested,
the great majority of information security breaches arise through
traditional detective work and social engineering, while far fewer occur
as a consequence of sophisticated technical attacks.
> We need to expose them too. Of course, this is unethical, an eye for
> an eye. But fairness must be restored.
Whatever can be said of the legality, your proposed activity
is either unethical or fair but not both.
> Whoever pulled off this hack would be hailed as a hero for centuries
> to come. They would get in the history books and will have helped save
> the planet- and will be proven to have had just cause.
It seems unlikely to me that anyone who would carry out a similar
level of intrusion into the denialist side would do so without
being smart enough to be able to cover his/her tracks at least to
the point where the resulting plausible deniability would make
it impossible to prove they did it. Let those who publish in
their own name take the credit - they will probably be those
who have done the donkey work of phoning up pretending to be
someone else and going through garbage cans and reconstructing
shredded documents, e.g. as occurred some years ago when investigators
who had previously been taken in by them, published details
discrediting the fraudulent activities of a bunch of criminal
US televangelists.
Richard Kay.
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Richard.
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