Received: by 10.68.189.72 with SMTP id gg8mr8556126pbc.4.1327854457751; Sun, 29 Jan 2012 08:27:37 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: mobile-portland@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.68.51.72 with SMTP id i8ls18373607pbo.5.gmail; Sun, 29 Jan 2012 08:27:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.68.74.201 with SMTP id w9mr8568397pbv.0.1327854456942; Sun, 29 Jan 2012 08:27:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.68.74.201 with SMTP id w9mr8568396pbv.0.1327854456929; Sun, 29 Jan 2012 08:27:36 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mail-pz0-f54.google.com (mail-pz0-f54.google.com [209.85.210.54]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id n6si19917819pbg.2.2012.01.29.08.27.36 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 29 Jan 2012 08:27:36 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 209.85.210.54 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of m...@netjunky.com) client-ip=209.85.210.54; Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 209.85.210.54 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of m...@netjunky.com) smtp.mail=m...@netjunky.com Received: by dadw1 with SMTP id w1so3481471dad.13 for ; Sun, 29 Jan 2012 08:27:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.68.239.170 with SMTP id vt10mr34185139pbc.0.1327854456469; Sun, 29 Jan 2012 08:27:36 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from [192.168.30.10] (174-25-53-9.ptld.qwest.net. [174.25.53.9]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e10sm9385445pbv.0.2012.01.29.08.27.35 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 29 Jan 2012 08:27:35 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) Subject: Re: {Mobile Portland} Question on best practices From: Jonathan Karon In-Reply-To: <5837891.24.1327696015136.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@prez15> Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2012 08:27:37 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <050F1290-8FF9-47A2-88EF-D022BC913...@netjunky.com> References: <5837891.24.1327696015136.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@prez15> To: mobile-portland@googlegroups.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) On Jan 27, 2012, at 12:26 PM, Nancy Wirsig McClure wrote: > When developing an app for a tablet, do you consider how it works for = users who lack an always-on net connection? Absolutely. In fact, if you're publishing to iPad Apple requires you to = at least think about the issue, as they specifically test for SOME sort = of response to the app functioning in an offline environment. Unfortunately, it's really hard to solve problems like syncing hundreds = of megs of content (even 10s of megs) in a media app when people expect = things to just work immediately. News Stand definitely solves this for a = certain class of media but if you're not making a periodical then that's = not helpful, and people grumble about app download size as much as they = do anything else. There are obviously entire classes of apps for which offline usage is = not possible, and other classes that don't use the network at all. For = things in between solving the problem of online / offline state = management and sync is an extra step that some developers choose to = ignore and others work at religiously. It really depends on the target market for the app and how much the = added work of offline mode fits with the product vision. ~jonathan >=20 > In other words... > Mobile developers probably don't personally use wi-fi-only devices, = but I'm less connected (I'm just a hanger-on here). I have a 1st gen = iPad with only wi-fi, not 3G (although updated to the latest iOS). Like = most consumers, I don't know how to use my smartphone as a hotspot, = although I hope to learn. >=20 > An example of software that fails for wi-fi-only users... > I use four magazine apps to read the latest issues. TIME just updated = their app, and now it loads the content selectively. It doesn't actually = fetch an individual article from the net until I go to view the page (or = perhaps it's based on page-blocks rather than articles). I used to be = able to download the whole issue at once, and then read it when I'm not = near a wi-fi hotspot. I totally relied on that feature. >=20 > When developing for iPad, do you try to create a good UX on a = wi-fi-only iPad? Or do you (or your clients) choose to disregard = consumers like me? >=20 > -- Nancy Wirsig McClure > Graphics for UI and more > http://www.hand2mouse.com >=20 > --=20 > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google = Groups "Mobile Portland" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit = https://groups.google.com/d/msg/mobile-portland/-/y6xsxPZdvxUJ. > To post to this group, send email to mobile-portland@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to = mobile-portland+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at = http://groups.google.com/group/mobile-portland?hl=3Den.