Since I got a bit of spare time yesterday night and that I saw that Android was available in US. I wondered for those that are interested in building mobile SIP client apps if the jsip stack could run on android. And it actually does without any modifications :-)
I ported the Shootme and Shootist examples to android to showcase it.
> Since I got a bit of spare time yesterday night and that I saw that > Android was available in US. I wondered for those that are interested > in building mobile SIP client apps if the jsip stack could run on > android. > And it actually does without any modifications :-)
> I ported the Shootme and Shootist examples to android to showcase it.
abhatnagar192...@gmail.com> wrote: > Wow. This is great. > Does this mean that i can build an IMS client using Jsip on top of Android > ?? It can be a possibility !
> Aayush
> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 9:49 PM, Jean Deruelle <jean.derue...@gmail.com>wrote:
>> Hi guys,
>> Since I got a bit of spare time yesterday night and that I saw that >> Android was available in US. I wondered for those that are interested >> in building mobile SIP client apps if the jsip stack could run on >> android. >> And it actually does without any modifications :-)
>> I ported the Shootme and Shootist examples to android to showcase it.
> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 10:19 PM, aayush bhatnagar < > abhatnagar192...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Wow. This is great. >> Does this mean that i can build an IMS client using Jsip on top of Android >> ?? It can be a possibility !
>> Aayush
>> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 9:49 PM, Jean Deruelle >> <jean.derue...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>> Hi guys,
>>> Since I got a bit of spare time yesterday night and that I saw that >>> Android was available in US. I wondered for those that are interested >>> in building mobile SIP client apps if the jsip stack could run on >>> android. >>> And it actually does without any modifications :-)
>>> I ported the Shootme and Shootist examples to android to showcase it.
> Hmm great..if something like that can be done. Or maybe JSR 281 APIs > can be clubbed with android to make an IMS client.
> On 10/23/08, Vicky Kak <vicky....@gmail.com> wrote: > > Yes you can do that ;)
> > On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 10:19 PM, aayush bhatnagar < > > abhatnagar192...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Wow. This is great. > >> Does this mean that i can build an IMS client using Jsip on top of > Android > >> ?? It can be a possibility !
> >> Aayush
> >> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 9:49 PM, Jean Deruelle > >> <jean.derue...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >>> Hi guys,
> >>> Since I got a bit of spare time yesterday night and that I saw that > >>> Android was available in US. I wondered for those that are interested > >>> in building mobile SIP client apps if the jsip stack could run on > >>> android. > >>> And it actually does without any modifications :-)
> >>> I ported the Shootme and Shootist examples to android to showcase it.
> Can one of us try directly using Sip Communicator, we don't have to > reinvent the wheel.
> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 11:05 PM, aayush bhatnagar < > abhatnagar192...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hmm great..if something like that can be done. Or maybe JSR 281 APIs >> can be clubbed with android to make an IMS client.
>> On 10/23/08, Vicky Kak <vicky....@gmail.com> wrote: >> > Yes you can do that ;)
>> > On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 10:19 PM, aayush bhatnagar < >> > abhatnagar192...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> Wow. This is great. >> >> Does this mean that i can build an IMS client using Jsip on top of >> Android >> >> ?? It can be a possibility !
>> >> Aayush
>> >> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 9:49 PM, Jean Deruelle >> >> <jean.derue...@gmail.com>wrote:
>> >>> Hi guys,
>> >>> Since I got a bit of spare time yesterday night and that I saw that >> >>> Android was available in US. I wondered for those that are interested >> >>> in building mobile SIP client apps if the jsip stack could run on >> >>> android. >> >>> And it actually does without any modifications :-)
>> >>> I ported the Shootme and Shootist examples to android to showcase it.
> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 11:13 PM, Amit Bhayani <amit.bhay...@gmail.com>wrote:
>> Can one of us try directly using Sip Communicator, we don't have to >> reinvent the wheel.
>> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 11:05 PM, aayush bhatnagar < >> abhatnagar192...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hmm great..if something like that can be done. Or maybe JSR 281 APIs >>> can be clubbed with android to make an IMS client.
>>> On 10/23/08, Vicky Kak <vicky....@gmail.com> wrote: >>> > Yes you can do that ;)
>>> > On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 10:19 PM, aayush bhatnagar < >>> > abhatnagar192...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> Wow. This is great. >>> >> Does this mean that i can build an IMS client using Jsip on top of >>> Android >>> >> ?? It can be a possibility !
>>> >> Aayush
>>> >> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 9:49 PM, Jean Deruelle >>> >> <jean.derue...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>> >>> Hi guys,
>>> >>> Since I got a bit of spare time yesterday night and that I saw that >>> >>> Android was available in US. I wondered for those that are interested >>> >>> in building mobile SIP client apps if the jsip stack could run on >>> >>> android. >>> >>> And it actually does without any modifications :-)
>>> >>> I ported the Shootme and Shootist examples to android to showcase it.
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 7:59 PM, Amit Bhayani <amit.bhay...@gmail.com> wrote: > Ahh so its already started, I was referring to original SIP Communicator > project.
> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 11:23 PM, aayush bhatnagar > <abhatnagar192...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 11:13 PM, Amit Bhayani <amit.bhay...@gmail.com> >> wrote:
>>> Can one of us try directly using Sip Communicator, we don't have to >>> reinvent the wheel.
>>> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 11:05 PM, aayush bhatnagar >>> <abhatnagar192...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hmm great..if something like that can be done. Or maybe JSR 281 APIs >>>> can be clubbed with android to make an IMS client.
>>>> On 10/23/08, Vicky Kak <vicky....@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> > Yes you can do that ;)
>>>> > On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 10:19 PM, aayush bhatnagar < >>>> > abhatnagar192...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >> Wow. This is great. >>>> >> Does this mean that i can build an IMS client using Jsip on top of >>>> >> Android >>>> >> ?? It can be a possibility !
>>>> >> Aayush
>>>> >> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 9:49 PM, Jean Deruelle >>>> >> <jean.derue...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>> >>> Hi guys,
>>>> >>> Since I got a bit of spare time yesterday night and that I saw that >>>> >>> Android was available in US. I wondered for those that are >>>> >>> interested >>>> >>> in building mobile SIP client apps if the jsip stack could run on >>>> >>> android. >>>> >>> And it actually does without any modifications :-)
>>>> >>> I ported the Shootme and Shootist examples to android to showcase >>>> >>> it.
> Sip communicator is more than just SIP protocol so a bit more work > might be needed to port it to android.
> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 7:59 PM, Amit Bhayani <amit.bhay...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Ahh so its already started, I was referring to original SIP Communicator > > project.
> > On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 11:23 PM, aayush bhatnagar > > <abhatnagar192...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 11:13 PM, Amit Bhayani <amit.bhay...@gmail.com> > >> wrote:
> >>> Can one of us try directly using Sip Communicator, we don't have to > >>> reinvent the wheel.
> >>> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 11:05 PM, aayush bhatnagar > >>> <abhatnagar192...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> Hmm great..if something like that can be done. Or maybe JSR 281 APIs > >>>> can be clubbed with android to make an IMS client.
> >>>> On 10/23/08, Vicky Kak <vicky....@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>> > Yes you can do that ;)
> >>>> > On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 10:19 PM, aayush bhatnagar < > >>>> > abhatnagar192...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> >> Wow. This is great. > >>>> >> Does this mean that i can build an IMS client using Jsip on top of > >>>> >> Android > >>>> >> ?? It can be a possibility !
> >>>> >> Aayush
> >>>> >> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 9:49 PM, Jean Deruelle > >>>> >> <jean.derue...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >>>> >>> Hi guys,
> >>>> >>> Since I got a bit of spare time yesterday night and that I saw that > >>>> >>> Android was available in US. I wondered for those that are > >>>> >>> interested > >>>> >>> in building mobile SIP client apps if the jsip stack could run on > >>>> >>> android. > >>>> >>> And it actually does without any modifications :-)
> >>>> >>> I ported the Shootme and Shootist examples to android to showcase > >>>> >>> it.
> Were you able to establish a voice call? Does Android provide access > to the audio input/output in a way that you can connect to RTP > streams?
> Ivelin
> On 10/23/08, Jean Deruelle <jean.derue...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Sip communicator is more than just SIP protocol so a bit more work >> might be needed to port it to android.
>> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 7:59 PM, Amit Bhayani <amit.bhay...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > Ahh so its already started, I was referring to original SIP >> Communicator >> > project.
>> > On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 11:23 PM, aayush bhatnagar >> > <abhatnagar192...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 11:13 PM, Amit Bhayani >> <amit.bhay...@gmail.com> >> >> wrote:
>> >>> Can one of us try directly using Sip Communicator, we don't have to >> >>> reinvent the wheel.
>> >>> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 11:05 PM, aayush bhatnagar >> >>> <abhatnagar192...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>> Hmm great..if something like that can be done. Or maybe JSR 281 APIs >> >>>> can be clubbed with android to make an IMS client.
>> >>>> On 10/23/08, Vicky Kak <vicky....@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>> > Yes you can do that ;)
>> >>>> > On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 10:19 PM, aayush bhatnagar < >> >>>> > abhatnagar192...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>> >> Wow. This is great. >> >>>> >> Does this mean that i can build an IMS client using Jsip on top >> of >> >>>> >> Android >> >>>> >> ?? It can be a possibility !
>> >>>> >> Aayush
>> >>>> >> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 9:49 PM, Jean Deruelle >> >>>> >> <jean.derue...@gmail.com>wrote:
>> >>>> >>> Hi guys,
>> >>>> >>> Since I got a bit of spare time yesterday night and that I saw >> that >> >>>> >>> Android was available in US. I wondered for those that are >> >>>> >>> interested >> >>>> >>> in building mobile SIP client apps if the jsip stack could run >> on >> >>>> >>> android. >> >>>> >>> And it actually does without any modifications :-)
>> >>>> >>> I ported the Shootme and Shootist examples to android to >> showcase >> >>>> >>> it.
> Were you able to establish a voice call? Does Android provide access > to the audio input/output in a way that you can connect to RTP > streams?
> Ivelin
> On 10/23/08, Jean Deruelle <jean.derue...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Sip communicator is more than just SIP protocol so a bit more work >> might be needed to port it to android.
>> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 7:59 PM, Amit Bhayani <amit.bhay...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > Ahh so its already started, I was referring to original SIP Communicator >> > project.
>> > On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 11:23 PM, aayush bhatnagar >> > <abhatnagar192...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 11:13 PM, Amit Bhayani <amit.bhay...@gmail.com> >> >> wrote:
>> >>> Can one of us try directly using Sip Communicator, we don't have to >> >>> reinvent the wheel.
>> >>> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 11:05 PM, aayush bhatnagar >> >>> <abhatnagar192...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>> Hmm great..if something like that can be done. Or maybe JSR 281 APIs >> >>>> can be clubbed with android to make an IMS client.
>> >>>> On 10/23/08, Vicky Kak <vicky....@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>> > Yes you can do that ;)
>> >>>> > On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 10:19 PM, aayush bhatnagar < >> >>>> > abhatnagar192...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>> >> Wow. This is great. >> >>>> >> Does this mean that i can build an IMS client using Jsip on top of >> >>>> >> Android >> >>>> >> ?? It can be a possibility !
>> >>>> >> Aayush
>> >>>> >> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 9:49 PM, Jean Deruelle >> >>>> >> <jean.derue...@gmail.com>wrote:
>> >>>> >>> Hi guys,
>> >>>> >>> Since I got a bit of spare time yesterday night and that I saw that >> >>>> >>> Android was available in US. I wondered for those that are >> >>>> >>> interested >> >>>> >>> in building mobile SIP client apps if the jsip stack could run on >> >>>> >>> android. >> >>>> >>> And it actually does without any modifications :-)
>> >>>> >>> I ported the Shootme and Shootist examples to android to showcase >> >>>> >>> it.
Yeah it seems Android is not providing a RTP stack so this would need to be ported. the Media API of Android just allow to play a raw resource, a file from the system, or from an available network (URL if the file is capable of progressive download.) http://code.google.com/android/toolbox/apis/media.html Since MMS provides an RTP stack and after an offline talk, Amit told me that it would be possible to make the MMS RTP stack modularized and externalizable in a standalone jar. Same thing with the codecs. So if anyone is interested we can put it as an low priority Issue. So please vote :-) I vote for it :-) Moreover that this could be also reused for a standalone standard java sip client if needed.
> On 10/23/08, Ivelin Ivanov <ivelin.atanasoff.iva...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Cool, Jean!
>> Were you able to establish a voice call? Does Android provide access >> to the audio input/output in a way that you can connect to RTP >> streams?
>> Ivelin
>> On 10/23/08, Jean Deruelle <jean.derue...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Sip communicator is more than just SIP protocol so a bit more work >>> might be needed to port it to android.
>>> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 7:59 PM, Amit Bhayani <amit.bhay...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> > Ahh so its already started, I was referring to original SIP >>> Communicator >>> > project.
>>> > On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 11:23 PM, aayush bhatnagar >>> > <abhatnagar192...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 11:13 PM, Amit Bhayani >>> <amit.bhay...@gmail.com> >>> >> wrote:
>>> >>> Can one of us try directly using Sip Communicator, we don't have to >>> >>> reinvent the wheel.
>>> >>> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 11:05 PM, aayush bhatnagar >>> >>> <abhatnagar192...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>>> Hmm great..if something like that can be done. Or maybe JSR 281 APIs >>> >>>> can be clubbed with android to make an IMS client.
>>> >>>> On 10/23/08, Vicky Kak <vicky....@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> > Yes you can do that ;)
>>> >>>> > On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 10:19 PM, aayush bhatnagar < >>> >>>> > abhatnagar192...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>>> >> Wow. This is great. >>> >>>> >> Does this mean that i can build an IMS client using Jsip on top >>> of >>> >>>> >> Android >>> >>>> >> ?? It can be a possibility !
>>> >>>> >> Aayush
>>> >>>> >> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 9:49 PM, Jean Deruelle >>> >>>> >> <jean.derue...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>> >>>> >>> Hi guys,
>>> >>>> >>> Since I got a bit of spare time yesterday night and that I saw >>> that >>> >>>> >>> Android was available in US. I wondered for those that are >>> >>>> >>> interested >>> >>>> >>> in building mobile SIP client apps if the jsip stack could run >>> on >>> >>>> >>> android. >>> >>>> >>> And it actually does without any modifications :-)
>>> >>>> >>> I ported the Shootme and Shootist examples to android to >>> showcase >>> >>>> >>> it.
> Yeah it seems Android is not providing a RTP stack so this would need > to be ported. the Media API of Android just allow to play a raw > resource, a file from the system, or from an available network (URL if > the file is capable of progressive download.) > http://code.google.com/android/toolbox/apis/media.html > Since MMS provides an RTP stack and after an offline talk, Amit told > me that it would be possible to make the MMS RTP stack modularized and > externalizable in a standalone jar. Same thing with the codecs. So if > anyone is interested we can put it as an low priority Issue. So please > vote :-) > I vote for it :-) Moreover that this could be also reused for a > standalone standard java sip client if needed.
> On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 4:11 AM, aayush bhatnagar > <abhatnagar192...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 10/23/08, Ivelin Ivanov <ivelin.atanasoff.iva...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Cool, Jean!
>>> Were you able to establish a voice call? Does Android provide access >>> to the audio input/output in a way that you can connect to RTP >>> streams?
>>> Ivelin
>>> On 10/23/08, Jean Deruelle <jean.derue...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Sip communicator is more than just SIP protocol so a bit more work >>>> might be needed to port it to android.
>>>> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 7:59 PM, Amit Bhayani <amit.bhay...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> > Ahh so its already started, I was referring to original SIP >>>> Communicator >>>> > project.
>>>> > On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 11:23 PM, aayush bhatnagar >>>> > <abhatnagar192...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 11:13 PM, Amit Bhayani >>>> <amit.bhay...@gmail.com> >>>> >> wrote:
>>>> >>> Can one of us try directly using Sip Communicator, we don't have to >>>> >>> reinvent the wheel.
>>>> >>> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 11:05 PM, aayush bhatnagar >>>> >>> <abhatnagar192...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >>>> Hmm great..if something like that can be done. Or maybe JSR 281 >>>> APIs >>>> >>>> can be clubbed with android to make an IMS client.
>>>> >>>> On 10/23/08, Vicky Kak <vicky....@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> > Yes you can do that ;)
>>>> >>>> > On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 10:19 PM, aayush bhatnagar < >>>> >>>> > abhatnagar192...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >>>> >> Wow. This is great. >>>> >>>> >> Does this mean that i can build an IMS client using Jsip on top >>>> of >>>> >>>> >> Android >>>> >>>> >> ?? It can be a possibility !
>>>> >>>> >> Aayush
>>>> >>>> >> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 9:49 PM, Jean Deruelle >>>> >>>> >> <jean.derue...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>> >>>> >>> Hi guys,
>>>> >>>> >>> Since I got a bit of spare time yesterday night and that I saw >>>> that >>>> >>>> >>> Android was available in US. I wondered for those that are >>>> >>>> >>> interested >>>> >>>> >>> in building mobile SIP client apps if the jsip stack could run >>>> on >>>> >>>> >>> android. >>>> >>>> >>> And it actually does without any modifications :-)
>>>> >>>> >>> I ported the Shootme and Shootist examples to android to >>>> showcase >>>> >>>> >>> it.
> On 10/24/08, Jean Deruelle <jean.derue...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Yeah it seems Android is not providing a RTP stack so this would need >> to be ported. the Media API of Android just allow to play a raw >> resource, a file from the system, or from an available network (URL if >> the file is capable of progressive download.) >> http://code.google.com/android/toolbox/apis/media.html >> Since MMS provides an RTP stack and after an offline talk, Amit told >> me that it would be possible to make the MMS RTP stack modularized and >> externalizable in a standalone jar. Same thing with the codecs. So if >> anyone is interested we can put it as an low priority Issue. So please >> vote :-) >> I vote for it :-) Moreover that this could be also reused for a >> standalone standard java sip client if needed.
>> On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 4:11 AM, aayush bhatnagar >> <abhatnagar192...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 10/23/08, Ivelin Ivanov <ivelin.atanasoff.iva...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Cool, Jean!
>>>> Were you able to establish a voice call? Does Android provide access >>>> to the audio input/output in a way that you can connect to RTP >>>> streams?
>>>> Ivelin
>>>> On 10/23/08, Jean Deruelle <jean.derue...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Sip communicator is more than just SIP protocol so a bit more work >>>>> might be needed to port it to android.
>>>>> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 7:59 PM, Amit Bhayani <amit.bhay...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> > Ahh so its already started, I was referring to original SIP >>>>> Communicator >>>>> > project.
>>>>> > On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 11:23 PM, aayush bhatnagar >>>>> > <abhatnagar192...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> >> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 11:13 PM, Amit Bhayani >>>>> <amit.bhay...@gmail.com> >>>>> >> wrote:
>>>>> >>> Can one of us try directly using Sip Communicator, we don't have to >>>>> >>> reinvent the wheel.
>>>>> >>> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 11:05 PM, aayush bhatnagar >>>>> >>> <abhatnagar192...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> >>>> Hmm great..if something like that can be done. Or maybe JSR 281 >>>>> APIs >>>>> >>>> can be clubbed with android to make an IMS client.
>>>>> >>>> On 10/23/08, Vicky Kak <vicky....@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>> > Yes you can do that ;)
>>>>> >>>> > On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 10:19 PM, aayush bhatnagar < >>>>> >>>> > abhatnagar192...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> >>>> >> Wow. This is great. >>>>> >>>> >> Does this mean that i can build an IMS client using Jsip on top >>>>> of >>>>> >>>> >> Android >>>>> >>>> >> ?? It can be a possibility !
>>>>> >>>> >> Aayush
>>>>> >>>> >> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 9:49 PM, Jean Deruelle >>>>> >>>> >> <jean.derue...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>> >>>> >>> Hi guys,
>>>>> >>>> >>> Since I got a bit of spare time yesterday night and that I saw >>>>> that >>>>> >>>> >>> Android was available in US. I wondered for those that are >>>>> >>>> >>> interested >>>>> >>>> >>> in building mobile SIP client apps if the jsip stack could run >>>>> on >>>>> >>>> >>> android. >>>>> >>>> >>> And it actually does without any modifications :-)
>>>>> >>>> >>> I ported the Shootme and Shootist examples to android to >>>>> showcase >>>>> >>>> >>> it.
On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 11:10 AM, Jean Deruelle <jean.derue...@gmail.com> wrote: > lol :-)
> On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 11:09 AM, aayush bhatnagar > <abhatnagar192...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I vote for it...we won 2-0.
>> On 10/24/08, Jean Deruelle <jean.derue...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Yeah it seems Android is not providing a RTP stack so this would need >>> to be ported. the Media API of Android just allow to play a raw >>> resource, a file from the system, or from an available network (URL if >>> the file is capable of progressive download.) >>> http://code.google.com/android/toolbox/apis/media.html >>> Since MMS provides an RTP stack and after an offline talk, Amit told >>> me that it would be possible to make the MMS RTP stack modularized and >>> externalizable in a standalone jar. Same thing with the codecs. So if >>> anyone is interested we can put it as an low priority Issue. So please >>> vote :-) >>> I vote for it :-) Moreover that this could be also reused for a >>> standalone standard java sip client if needed.
>>> On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 4:11 AM, aayush bhatnagar >>> <abhatnagar192...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 10/23/08, Ivelin Ivanov <ivelin.atanasoff.iva...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Cool, Jean!
>>>>> Were you able to establish a voice call? Does Android provide access >>>>> to the audio input/output in a way that you can connect to RTP >>>>> streams?
>>>>> Ivelin
>>>>> On 10/23/08, Jean Deruelle <jean.derue...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Sip communicator is more than just SIP protocol so a bit more work >>>>>> might be needed to port it to android.
>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 7:59 PM, Amit Bhayani <amit.bhay...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> > Ahh so its already started, I was referring to original SIP >>>>>> Communicator >>>>>> > project.
>>>>>> > On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 11:23 PM, aayush bhatnagar >>>>>> > <abhatnagar192...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> >> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 11:13 PM, Amit Bhayani >>>>>> <amit.bhay...@gmail.com> >>>>>> >> wrote:
>>>>>> >>> Can one of us try directly using Sip Communicator, we don't have to >>>>>> >>> reinvent the wheel.
>>>>>> >>> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 11:05 PM, aayush bhatnagar >>>>>> >>> <abhatnagar192...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> Hmm great..if something like that can be done. Or maybe JSR 281 >>>>>> APIs >>>>>> >>>> can be clubbed with android to make an IMS client.
>>>>>> >>>> On 10/23/08, Vicky Kak <vicky....@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>> > Yes you can do that ;)
>>>>>> >>>> > On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 10:19 PM, aayush bhatnagar < >>>>>> >>>> > abhatnagar192...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >> Wow. This is great. >>>>>> >>>> >> Does this mean that i can build an IMS client using Jsip on top >>>>>> of >>>>>> >>>> >> Android >>>>>> >>>> >> ?? It can be a possibility !
>>>>>> >>>> >> Aayush
>>>>>> >>>> >> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 9:49 PM, Jean Deruelle >>>>>> >>>> >> <jean.derue...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >>> Hi guys,
>>>>>> >>>> >>> Since I got a bit of spare time yesterday night and that I saw >>>>>> that >>>>>> >>>> >>> Android was available in US. I wondered for those that are >>>>>> >>>> >>> interested >>>>>> >>>> >>> in building mobile SIP client apps if the jsip stack could run >>>>>> on >>>>>> >>>> >>> android. >>>>>> >>>> >>> And it actually does without any modifications :-)
>>>>>> >>>> >>> I ported the Shootme and Shootist examples to android to >>>>>> showcase >>>>>> >>>> >>> it.
> Also Android can only record to a file. an API would need to be built > for recording to an RTP stream
> On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 11:10 AM, Jean Deruelle <jean.derue...@gmail.com> wrote: > > lol :-)
> > On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 11:09 AM, aayush bhatnagar > > <abhatnagar192...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> I vote for it...we won 2-0.
> >> On 10/24/08, Jean Deruelle <jean.derue...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> Yeah it seems Android is not providing a RTP stack so this would need > >>> to be ported. the Media API of Android just allow to play a raw > >>> resource, a file from the system, or from an available network (URL if > >>> the file is capable of progressive download.) > >>> http://code.google.com/android/toolbox/apis/media.html > >>> Since MMS provides an RTP stack and after an offline talk, Amit told > >>> me that it would be possible to make the MMS RTP stack modularized and > >>> externalizable in a standalone jar. Same thing with the codecs. So if > >>> anyone is interested we can put it as an low priority Issue. So please > >>> vote :-) > >>> I vote for it :-) Moreover that this could be also reused for a > >>> standalone standard java sip client if needed.
> >>> On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 4:11 AM, aayush bhatnagar > >>> <abhatnagar192...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> On 10/23/08, Ivelin Ivanov <ivelin.atanasoff.iva...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>> Cool, Jean!
> >>>>> Were you able to establish a voice call? Does Android provide access > >>>>> to the audio input/output in a way that you can connect to RTP > >>>>> streams?
> >>>>> Ivelin
> >>>>> On 10/23/08, Jean Deruelle <jean.derue...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> Sip communicator is more than just SIP protocol so a bit more work > >>>>>> might be needed to port it to android.
> >>>>>> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 7:59 PM, Amit Bhayani <amit.bhay...@gmail.com> > >>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>> > Ahh so its already started, I was referring to original SIP > >>>>>> Communicator > >>>>>> > project.
> >>>>>> > On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 11:23 PM, aayush bhatnagar > >>>>>> > <abhatnagar192...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> >> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 11:13 PM, Amit Bhayani > >>>>>> <amit.bhay...@gmail.com> > >>>>>> >> wrote:
> >>>>>> >>> Can one of us try directly using Sip Communicator, we don't have to > >>>>>> >>> reinvent the wheel.
> >>>>>> >>> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 11:05 PM, aayush bhatnagar > >>>>>> >>> <abhatnagar192...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> >>>> Hmm great..if something like that can be done. Or maybe JSR 281 > >>>>>> APIs > >>>>>> >>>> can be clubbed with android to make an IMS client.
> >>>>>> >>>> On 10/23/08, Vicky Kak <vicky....@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>>> >>>> > Yes you can do that ;)
> >>>>>> >>>> > On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 10:19 PM, aayush bhatnagar < > >>>>>> >>>> > abhatnagar192...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> >>>> >> Wow. This is great. > >>>>>> >>>> >> Does this mean that i can build an IMS client using Jsip on top > >>>>>> of > >>>>>> >>>> >> Android > >>>>>> >>>> >> ?? It can be a possibility !
> >>>>>> >>>> >> Aayush
> >>>>>> >>>> >> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 9:49 PM, Jean Deruelle > >>>>>> >>>> >> <jean.derue...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >>>>>> >>>> >>> Hi guys,
> >>>>>> >>>> >>> Since I got a bit of spare time yesterday night and that I saw > >>>>>> that > >>>>>> >>>> >>> Android was available in US. I wondered for those that are > >>>>>> >>>> >>> interested > >>>>>> >>>> >>> in building mobile SIP client apps if the jsip stack could run > >>>>>> on > >>>>>> >>>> >>> android. > >>>>>> >>>> >>> And it actually does without any modifications :-)
> >>>>>> >>>> >>> I ported the Shootme and Shootist examples to android to > >>>>>> showcase > >>>>>> >>>> >>> it.
> Stream or file? Is it possible to intercept the writing and redirect > to a live RTP stream? Same question for reading.
> On 10/24/08, Jean Deruelle <jean.derue...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Also Android can only record to a file. an API would need to be built >> for recording to an RTP stream
>> On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 11:10 AM, Jean Deruelle <jean.derue...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > lol :-)
>> > On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 11:09 AM, aayush bhatnagar >> > <abhatnagar192...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> I vote for it...we won 2-0.
>> >> On 10/24/08, Jean Deruelle <jean.derue...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>> Yeah it seems Android is not providing a RTP stack so this would need >> >>> to be ported. the Media API of Android just allow to play a raw >> >>> resource, a file from the system, or from an available network (URL if >> >>> the file is capable of progressive download.) >> >>> http://code.google.com/android/toolbox/apis/media.html >> >>> Since MMS provides an RTP stack and after an offline talk, Amit told >> >>> me that it would be possible to make the MMS RTP stack modularized and >> >>> externalizable in a standalone jar. Same thing with the codecs. So if >> >>> anyone is interested we can put it as an low priority Issue. So please >> >>> vote :-) >> >>> I vote for it :-) Moreover that this could be also reused for a >> >>> standalone standard java sip client if needed.
>> >>> On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 4:11 AM, aayush bhatnagar >> >>> <abhatnagar192...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>> On 10/23/08, Ivelin Ivanov <ivelin.atanasoff.iva...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>> Cool, Jean!
>> >>>>> Were you able to establish a voice call? Does Android provide access >> >>>>> to the audio input/output in a way that you can connect to RTP >> >>>>> streams?
>> >>>>> Ivelin
>> >>>>> On 10/23/08, Jean Deruelle <jean.derue...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>> Sip communicator is more than just SIP protocol so a bit more work >> >>>>>> might be needed to port it to android.
>> >>>>>> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 7:59 PM, Amit Bhayani <amit.bhay...@gmail.com> >> >>>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>> > Ahh so its already started, I was referring to original SIP >> >>>>>> Communicator >> >>>>>> > project.
>> >>>>>> > On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 11:23 PM, aayush bhatnagar >> >>>>>> > <abhatnagar192...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>> >> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 11:13 PM, Amit Bhayani >> >>>>>> <amit.bhay...@gmail.com> >> >>>>>> >> wrote:
>> >>>>>> >>> Can one of us try directly using Sip Communicator, we don't have to >> >>>>>> >>> reinvent the wheel.
>> >>>>>> >>> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 11:05 PM, aayush bhatnagar >> >>>>>> >>> <abhatnagar192...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>> >>>> Hmm great..if something like that can be done. Or maybe JSR 281 >> >>>>>> APIs >> >>>>>> >>>> can be clubbed with android to make an IMS client.
>> >>>>>> >>>> On 10/23/08, Vicky Kak <vicky....@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>>>> >>>> > Yes you can do that ;)
>> >>>>>> >>>> > On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 10:19 PM, aayush bhatnagar < >> >>>>>> >>>> > abhatnagar192...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>> >>>> >> Wow. This is great. >> >>>>>> >>>> >> Does this mean that i can build an IMS client using Jsip on top >> >>>>>> of >> >>>>>> >>>> >> Android >> >>>>>> >>>> >> ?? It can be a possibility !
>> >>>>>> >>>> >> Aayush
>> >>>>>> >>>> >> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 9:49 PM, Jean Deruelle >> >>>>>> >>>> >> <jean.derue...@gmail.com>wrote:
>> >>>>>> >>>> >>> Hi guys,
>> >>>>>> >>>> >>> Since I got a bit of spare time yesterday night and that I saw >> >>>>>> that >> >>>>>> >>>> >>> Android was available in US. I wondered for those that are >> >>>>>> >>>> >>> interested >> >>>>>> >>>> >>> in building mobile SIP client apps if the jsip stack could run >> >>>>>> on >> >>>>>> >>>> >>> android. >> >>>>>> >>>> >>> And it actually does without any modifications :-)
>> >>>>>> >>>> >>> I ported the Shootme and Shootist examples to android to >> >>>>>> showcase >> >>>>>> >>>> >>> it.
>> >>>>>> >>>> >>> More details are available here
We have started to develop a SIP/IMS phone a few months ago. We tried
a few SIP stacks and chose JSIP since it worked without any problem.
Media was working fine before Google removed the javasound support
(though the emulator had a few bugs with audio capture). We started
with an in-house basic RTP stack and we think that a modularized MMS
would be very nice. We are now working within the sc-android project.
The main issue at the moment is the Android support for audio in/out.
Anyhow, we are interested to contribute to this kind of project and
also vote for :-)
Thomas
On 24 oct, 15:21, "Jean Deruelle" <jean.derue...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Stream or file? Is it possible to intercept the writing and redirect
> > to a live RTP stream? Same question for reading.
> > On 10/24/08, Jean Deruelle <jean.derue...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Also Android can only record to a file. an API would need to be built
> >> for recording to an RTP stream
> >> On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 11:10 AM, Jean Deruelle <jean.derue...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > lol :-)
> >> > On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 11:09 AM, aayush bhatnagar
> >> > <abhatnagar192...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> I vote for it...we won 2-0.
> >> >> On 10/24/08, Jean Deruelle <jean.derue...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>> Yeah it seems Android is not providing a RTP stack so this would need
> >> >>> to be ported. the Media API of Android just allow to play a raw
> >> >>> resource, a file from the system, or from an available network (URL if
> >> >>> the file is capable of progressive download.)
> >> >>>http://code.google.com/android/toolbox/apis/media.html > >> >>> Since MMS provides an RTP stack and after an offline talk, Amit told
> >> >>> me that it would be possible to make the MMS RTP stack modularized and
> >> >>> externalizable in a standalone jar. Same thing with the codecs. So if
> >> >>> anyone is interested we can put it as an low priority Issue. So please
> >> >>> vote :-)
> >> >>> I vote for it :-) Moreover that this could be also reused for a
> >> >>> standalone standard java sip client if needed.
> >> >>> On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 4:11 AM, aayush bhatnagar
> >> >>> <abhatnagar192...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>>> On 10/23/08, Ivelin Ivanov <ivelin.atanasoff.iva...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>>>> Cool, Jean!
> >> >>>>> Were you able to establish a voice call? Does Android provide access
> >> >>>>> to the audio input/output in a way that you can connect to RTP
> >> >>>>> streams?
> >> >>>>> Ivelin
> >> >>>>> On 10/23/08, Jean Deruelle <jean.derue...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>>>>> Sip communicator is more than just SIP protocol so a bit more work
> >> >>>>>> might be needed to port it to android.
> >> >>>>>> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 7:59 PM, Amit Bhayani <amit.bhay...@gmail.com>
> >> >>>>>> wrote:
> >> >>>>>> > Ahh so its already started, I was referring to original SIP
> >> >>>>>> Communicator
> >> >>>>>> > project.
> >> >>>>>> > On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 11:23 PM, aayush bhatnagar
> >> >>>>>> > <abhatnagar192...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>>>>> >> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 11:13 PM, Amit Bhayani
> >> >>>>>> <amit.bhay...@gmail.com>
> >> >>>>>> >> wrote:
> >> >>>>>> >>> Can one of us try directly using Sip Communicator, we don't have to
> >> >>>>>> >>> reinvent the wheel.
> >> >>>>>> >>> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 11:05 PM, aayush bhatnagar
> >> >>>>>> >>> <abhatnagar192...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>>>>> >>>> Hmm great..if something like that can be done. Or maybe JSR 281
> >> >>>>>> APIs
> >> >>>>>> >>>> can be clubbed with android to make an IMS client.
> >> >>>>>> >>>> On 10/23/08, Vicky Kak <vicky....@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>>>>> >>>> > Yes you can do that ;)
> >> >>>>>> >>>> > On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 10:19 PM, aayush bhatnagar <
> >> >>>>>> >>>> > abhatnagar192...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>>>>> >>>> >> Wow. This is great.
> >> >>>>>> >>>> >> Does this mean that i can build an IMS client using Jsip on top
> >> >>>>>> of
> >> >>>>>> >>>> >> Android
> >> >>>>>> >>>> >> ?? It can be a possibility !
> >> >>>>>> >>>> >> Aayush
> >> >>>>>> >>>> >> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 9:49 PM, Jean Deruelle
> >> >>>>>> >>>> >> <jean.derue...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >> >>>>>> >>>> >>> Hi guys,
> >> >>>>>> >>>> >>> Since I got a bit of spare time yesterday night and that I saw
> >> >>>>>> that
> >> >>>>>> >>>> >>> Android was available in US. I wondered for those that are
> >> >>>>>> >>>> >>> interested
> >> >>>>>> >>>> >>> in building mobile SIP client apps if the jsip stack could run
> >> >>>>>> on
> >> >>>>>> >>>> >>> android.
> >> >>>>>> >>>> >>> And it actually does without any modifications :-)
> >> >>>>>> >>>> >>> I ported the Shootme and Shootist examples to android to
> >> >>>>>> showcase
> >> >>>>>> >>>> >>> it.
> >> >>>>>> >>>> >>> More details are available here
On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 9:35 PM, thomas <lese...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
> We have started to develop a SIP/IMS phone a few months ago. We tried > a few SIP stacks and chose JSIP since it worked without any problem. > Media was working fine before Google removed the javasound support > (though the emulator had a few bugs with audio capture). We started > with an in-house basic RTP stack and we think that a modularized MMS > would be very nice. We are now working within the sc-android project. > The main issue at the moment is the Android support for audio in/out.
> Anyhow, we are interested to contribute to this kind of project and > also vote for :-)
> Thomas
> On 24 oct, 15:21, "Jean Deruelle" <jean.derue...@gmail.com> wrote: > > From the API it doesn't look like it's possiblehttp:// > code.google.com/android/reference/android/media/MediaRecorder.... > > andhttp:// > code.google.com/android/reference/android/media/MediaPlayer.html. > > But since Google opened it's source code, we should be able to copy > > paste and write new APIs to do so.
> > On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 3:11 PM, Ivelin Ivanov
> > > Stream or file? Is it possible to intercept the writing and redirect > > > to a live RTP stream? Same question for reading.
> > > On 10/24/08, Jean Deruelle <jean.derue...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> Also Android can only record to a file. an API would need to be built > > >> for recording to an RTP stream
> > >> On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 11:10 AM, Jean Deruelle < > jean.derue...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> > lol :-)
> > >> > On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 11:09 AM, aayush bhatnagar > > >> > <abhatnagar192...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> >> I vote for it...we won 2-0.
> > >> >> On 10/24/08, Jean Deruelle <jean.derue...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> >>> Yeah it seems Android is not providing a RTP stack so this would > need > > >> >>> to be ported. the Media API of Android just allow to play a raw > > >> >>> resource, a file from the system, or from an available network > (URL if > > >> >>> the file is capable of progressive download.) > > >> >>>http://code.google.com/android/toolbox/apis/media.html > > >> >>> Since MMS provides an RTP stack and after an offline talk, Amit > told > > >> >>> me that it would be possible to make the MMS RTP stack > modularized and > > >> >>> externalizable in a standalone jar. Same thing with the codecs. > So if > > >> >>> anyone is interested we can put it as an low priority Issue. So > please > > >> >>> vote :-) > > >> >>> I vote for it :-) Moreover that this could be also reused for a > > >> >>> standalone standard java sip client if needed.
> > >> >>> On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 4:11 AM, aayush bhatnagar > > >> >>> <abhatnagar192...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> >>>>> Were you able to establish a voice call? Does Android provide > access > > >> >>>>> to the audio input/output in a way that you can connect to RTP > > >> >>>>> streams?
> > >> >>>>> Ivelin
> > >> >>>>> On 10/23/08, Jean Deruelle <jean.derue...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> >>>>>> Sip communicator is more than just SIP protocol so a bit more > work > > >> >>>>>> might be needed to port it to android.
> > >> >>>>>> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 7:59 PM, Amit Bhayani < > amit.bhay...@gmail.com> > > >> >>>>>> wrote: > > >> >>>>>> > Ahh so its already started, I was referring to original SIP > > >> >>>>>> Communicator > > >> >>>>>> > project.
> > >> >>>>>> > On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 11:23 PM, aayush bhatnagar > > >> >>>>>> > <abhatnagar192...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> >>>>>> >> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 11:13 PM, Amit Bhayani > > >> >>>>>> <amit.bhay...@gmail.com> > > >> >>>>>> >> wrote:
> > >> >>>>>> >>> Can one of us try directly using Sip Communicator, we > don't have to > > >> >>>>>> >>> reinvent the wheel.
> > >> >>>>>> >>> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 11:05 PM, aayush bhatnagar > > >> >>>>>> >>> <abhatnagar192...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> >>>>>> >>>> Hmm great..if something like that can be done. Or maybe > JSR 281 > > >> >>>>>> APIs > > >> >>>>>> >>>> can be clubbed with android to make an IMS client.
> > >> >>>>>> >>>> On 10/23/08, Vicky Kak <vicky....@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> >>>>>> >>>> > Yes you can do that ;)
> > >> >>>>>> >>>> > On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 10:19 PM, aayush bhatnagar < > > >> >>>>>> >>>> > abhatnagar192...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> >>>>>> >>>> >> Wow. This is great. > > >> >>>>>> >>>> >> Does this mean that i can build an IMS client using > Jsip on top > > >> >>>>>> of > > >> >>>>>> >>>> >> Android > > >> >>>>>> >>>> >> ?? It can be a possibility !
> > >> >>>>>> >>>> >> Aayush
> > >> >>>>>> >>>> >> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 9:49 PM, Jean Deruelle > > >> >>>>>> >>>> >> <jean.derue...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > >> >>>>>> >>>> >>> Hi guys,
> > >> >>>>>> >>>> >>> Since I got a bit of spare time yesterday night and > that I saw > > >> >>>>>> that > > >> >>>>>> >>>> >>> Android was available in US. I wondered for those > that are > > >> >>>>>> >>>> >>> interested > > >> >>>>>> >>>> >>> in building mobile SIP client apps if the jsip stack > could run > > >> >>>>>> on > > >> >>>>>> >>>> >>> android. > > >> >>>>>> >>>> >>> And it actually does without any modifications :-)
> > >> >>>>>> >>>> >>> I ported the Shootme and Shootist examples to > android to > > >> >>>>>> showcase > > >> >>>>>> >>>> >>> it.
> > >> >>>>>> >>>> >>> More details are available here
> On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 9:35 PM, thomas <lese...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > We have started to develop a SIP/IMS phone a few months ago. We tried
> > a few SIP stacks and chose JSIP since it worked without any problem.
> > Media was working fine before Google removed the javasound support
> > (though the emulator had a few bugs with audio capture). We started
> > with an in-house basic RTP stack and we think that a modularized MMS
> > would be very nice. We are now working within the sc-android project.
> > The main issue at the moment is the Android support for audio in/out.
> > Anyhow, we are interested to contribute to this kind of project and
> > also vote for :-)
> > Thomas
> > On 24 oct, 15:21, "Jean Deruelle" <jean.derue...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > From the API it doesn't look like it's possiblehttp://
> > code.google.com/android/reference/android/media/MediaRecorder....
> > > andhttp://
> > code.google.com/android/reference/android/media/MediaPlayer.html.
> > > But since Google opened it's source code, we should be able to copy
> > > paste and write new APIs to do so.
> > > On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 3:11 PM, Ivelin Ivanov
> > > > Stream or file? Is it possible to intercept the writing and redirect
> > > > to a live RTP stream? Same question for reading.
> > > > On 10/24/08, Jean Deruelle <jean.derue...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> Also Android can only record to a file. an API would need to be built
> > > >> for recording to an RTP stream
> > > >> On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 11:10 AM, Jean Deruelle <
> > jean.derue...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> > lol :-)
> > > >> > On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 11:09 AM, aayush bhatnagar
> > > >> > <abhatnagar192...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> >> I vote for it...we won 2-0.
> > > >> >> On 10/24/08, Jean Deruelle <jean.derue...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> >>> Yeah it seems Android is not providing a RTP stack so this would
> > need
> > > >> >>> to be ported. the Media API of Android just allow to play a raw
> > > >> >>> resource, a file from the system, or from an available network
> > (URL if
> > > >> >>> the file is capable of progressive download.)
> > > >> >>>http://code.google.com/android/toolbox/apis/media.html > > > >> >>> Since MMS provides an RTP stack and after an offline talk, Amit
> > told
> > > >> >>> me that it would be possible to make the MMS RTP stack
> > modularized and
> > > >> >>> externalizable in a standalone jar. Same thing with the codecs.
> > So if
> > > >> >>> anyone is interested we can put it as an low priority Issue. So
> > please
> > > >> >>> vote :-)
> > > >> >>> I vote for it :-) Moreover that this could be also reused for a
> > > >> >>> standalone standard java sip client if needed.
> > > >> >>> On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 4:11 AM, aayush bhatnagar
> > > >> >>> <abhatnagar192...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> >>>>> Were you able to establish a voice call? Does Android provide
> > access
> > > >> >>>>> to the audio input/output in a way that you can connect to RTP
> > > >> >>>>> streams?
> > > >> >>>>> Ivelin
> > > >> >>>>> On 10/23/08, Jean Deruelle <jean.derue...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> >>>>>> Sip communicator is more than just SIP protocol so a bit more
> > work
> > > >> >>>>>> might be needed to port it to android.
> > > >> >>>>>> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 7:59 PM, Amit Bhayani <
> > amit.bhay...@gmail.com>
> > > >> >>>>>> wrote:
> > > >> >>>>>> > Ahh so its already started, I was referring to original SIP
> > > >> >>>>>> Communicator
> > > >> >>>>>> > project.
> > > >> >>>>>> > On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 11:23 PM, aayush bhatnagar
> > > >> >>>>>> > <abhatnagar192...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> >>>>>> >> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 11:13 PM, Amit Bhayani
> > > >> >>>>>> <amit.bhay...@gmail.com>
> > > >> >>>>>> >> wrote:
> > > >> >>>>>> >>> Can one of us try directly using Sip Communicator, we
> > don't have to
> > > >> >>>>>> >>> reinvent the wheel.
> > > >> >>>>>> >>> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 11:05 PM, aayush bhatnagar
> > > >> >>>>>> >>> <abhatnagar192...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> >>>>>> >>>> Hmm great..if something like that can be done. Or maybe
> > JSR 281
> > > >> >>>>>> APIs
> > > >> >>>>>> >>>> can be clubbed with android to make an IMS client.
> > > >> >>>>>> >>>> On 10/23/08, Vicky Kak <vicky....@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> >>>>>> >>>> > Yes you can do that ;)
> > > >> >>>>>> >>>> > On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 10:19 PM, aayush bhatnagar <
> > > >> >>>>>> >>>> > abhatnagar192...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> >>>>>> >>>> >> Wow. This is great.
> > > >> >>>>>> >>>> >> Does this mean that i can build an IMS client using
> > Jsip on top
> > > >> >>>>>> of
> > > >> >>>>>> >>>> >> Android
> > > >> >>>>>> >>>> >> ?? It can be a possibility !
> > > >> >>>>>> >>>> >> Aayush
> > > >> >>>>>> >>>> >> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 9:49 PM, Jean Deruelle
> > > >> >>>>>> >>>> >> <jean.derue...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > > >> >>>>>> >>>> >>> Hi guys,
> > > >> >>>>>> >>>> >>> Since I got a bit of spare time yesterday night and
> > that I saw
> > > >> >>>>>> that
> > > >> >>>>>> >>>> >>> Android was available in US. I wondered for those
> > that are
> > > >> >>>>>> >>>> >>> interested
> > > >> >>>>>> >>>> >>> in building mobile SIP client apps if the jsip stack
> > could run
> > > >> >>>>>> on
> > > >> >>>>>> >>>> >>> android.
> > > >> >>>>>> >>>> >>> And it actually does without any modifications :-)
> > > >> >>>>>> >>>> >>> I ported the Shootme and Shootist examples to
> > android to
> > > >> >>>>>> showcase
> > > >> >>>>>> >>>> >>> it.
> > > >> >>>>>> >>>> >>> More details are available here
> On Oct 24, 5:26 pm, "Amit Bhayani" <amit.bhay...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Thomas,
> > Thanks for showing interest. can you please point us to your RTP Stack? > Is > > it open source? > > The MMS code can be found athttp:// > code.google.com/p/mobicents/source/browse/#svn/trunk/servers/m...
> > As of now there is no independent RTP Stack that can be reused > out-of-box, > > but is TODO > > You can start withhttp:// > code.google.com/p/mobicents/source/browse/#svn/trunk/servers/m... > > understand the architecture and of course forum is helpful.
> > Amit.
> > On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 9:35 PM, thomas <lese...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > > We have started to develop a SIP/IMS phone a few months ago. We tried > > > a few SIP stacks and chose JSIP since it worked without any problem. > > > Media was working fine before Google removed the javasound support > > > (though the emulator had a few bugs with audio capture). We started > > > with an in-house basic RTP stack and we think that a modularized MMS > > > would be very nice. We are now working within the sc-android project. > > > The main issue at the moment is the Android support for audio in/out.
> > > Anyhow, we are interested to contribute to this kind of project and > > > also vote for :-)
> > > Thomas
> > > On 24 oct, 15:21, "Jean Deruelle" <jean.derue...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > From the API it doesn't look like it's possiblehttp:// > > > code.google.com/android/reference/android/media/MediaRecorder.... > > > > andhttp:// > > > code.google.com/android/reference/android/media/MediaPlayer.html. > > > > But since Google opened it's source code, we should be able to copy > > > > paste and write new APIs to do so.
> > > > On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 3:11 PM, Ivelin Ivanov
> > > > > Stream or file? Is it possible to intercept the writing and > redirect > > > > > to a live RTP stream? Same question for reading.
> > > > > On 10/24/08, Jean Deruelle <jean.derue...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >> Also Android can only record to a file. an API would need to be > built > > > > >> for recording to an RTP stream
> > > > >> On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 11:10 AM, Jean Deruelle < > > > jean.derue...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > >> > lol :-)
> > > > >> > On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 11:09 AM, aayush bhatnagar > > > > >> > <abhatnagar192...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >> >> I vote for it...we won 2-0.
> > > > >> >> On 10/24/08, Jean Deruelle <jean.derue...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >> >>> Yeah it seems Android is not providing a RTP stack so this > would > > > need > > > > >> >>> to be ported. the Media API of Android just allow to play a > raw > > > > >> >>> resource, a file from the system, or from an available > network > > > (URL if > > > > >> >>> the file is capable of progressive download.) > > > > >> >>>http://code.google.com/android/toolbox/apis/media.html > > > > >> >>> Since MMS provides an RTP stack and after an offline talk, > Amit > > > told > > > > >> >>> me that it would be possible to make the MMS RTP stack > > > modularized and > > > > >> >>> externalizable in a standalone jar. Same thing with the > codecs. > > > So if > > > > >> >>> anyone is interested we can put it as an low priority Issue. > So > > > please > > > > >> >>> vote :-) > > > > >> >>> I vote for it :-) Moreover that this could be also reused for > a > > > > >> >>> standalone standard java sip client if needed.
> > > > >> >>> On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 4:11 AM, aayush bhatnagar > > > > >> >>> <abhatnagar192...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >> >>>>> Were you able to establish a voice call? Does Android > provide > > > access > > > > >> >>>>> to the audio input/output in a way that you can connect to > RTP > > > > >> >>>>> streams?
> > > > >> >>>>> Ivelin
> > > > >> >>>>> On 10/23/08, Jean Deruelle <jean.derue...@gmail.com> > wrote:
> > > > >> >>>>>> Sip communicator is more than just SIP protocol so a bit > more > > > work > > > > >> >>>>>> might be needed to port it to android.
> > > > >> >>>>>> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 7:59 PM, Amit Bhayani < > > > amit.bhay...@gmail.com> > > > > >> >>>>>> wrote: > > > > >> >>>>>> > Ahh so its already started, I was referring to original > SIP > > > > >> >>>>>> Communicator > > > > >> >>>>>> > project.
> > > > >> >>>>>> > On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 11:23 PM, aayush bhatnagar > > > > >> >>>>>> > <abhatnagar192...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >> >>>>>> >> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 11:13 PM, Amit Bhayani > > > > >> >>>>>> <amit.bhay...@gmail.com> > > > > >> >>>>>> >> wrote:
> > > > >> >>>>>> >>> Can one of us try directly using Sip Communicator, we > > > don't have to > > > > >> >>>>>> >>> reinvent the wheel.
> > > > >> >>>>>> >>> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 11:05 PM, aayush bhatnagar > > > > >> >>>>>> >>> <abhatnagar192...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >> >>>>>> >>>> Hmm great..if something like that can be done. Or > maybe > > > JSR 281 > > > > >> >>>>>> APIs > > > > >> >>>>>> >>>> can be clubbed with android to make an IMS client.
> > > > >> >>>>>> >>>> On 10/23/08, Vicky Kak <vicky....@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > >> >>>>>> >>>> > Yes you can do that ;)
> > > > >> >>>>>> >>>> > On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 10:19 PM, aayush bhatnagar > < > > > > >> >>>>>> >>>> > abhatnagar192...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >> >>>>>> >>>> >> Wow. This is great. > > > > >> >>>>>> >>>> >> Does this mean that i can build an IMS client > using > > > Jsip on top > > > > >> >>>>>> of > > > > >> >>>>>> >>>> >> Android > > > > >> >>>>>> >>>> >> ?? It can be a possibility !
> > > > >> >>>>>> >>>> >> Aayush
> > > > >> >>>>>> >>>> >> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 9:49 PM, Jean Deruelle > > > > >> >>>>>> >>>> >> <jean.derue...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > > > >> >>>>>> >>>> >>> Hi guys,
> > > > >> >>>>>> >>>> >>> Since I got a bit of spare time yesterday night > and > > > that I saw > > > > >> >>>>>> that > > > > >> >>>>>> >>>> >>> Android was available in US. I wondered for > those > > > that are > > > > >> >>>>>> >>>> >>> interested > > > > >> >>>>>> >>>> >>> in building mobile SIP client apps if the jsip > stack > > > could run > > > > >> >>>>>> on > > > > >> >>>>>> >>>> >>> android. > > > > >> >>>>>> >>>> >>> And it actually does without any modifications > :-)
> > > > >> >>>>>> >>>> >>> I ported the Shootme and Shootist examples to > > > android to > > > > >> >>>>>> showcase > > > > >> >>>>>> >>>> >>> it.
> > > > >> >>>>>> >>>> >>> More details are available here
Its starting to get a bit more exciting. Vladimir showed me how Android can run on a Windows Mobile device via boot loader switch, which broadens the Android deploy base quickly.
On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 9:54 AM, Jean Deruelle <jean.derue...@gmail.com>wrote:
>> On Oct 24, 5:26 pm, "Amit Bhayani" <amit.bhay...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > Hi Thomas,
>> > Thanks for showing interest. can you please point us to your RTP Stack? >> Is >> > it open source? >> > The MMS code can be found athttp:// >> code.google.com/p/mobicents/source/browse/#svn/trunk/servers/m...
>> > As of now there is no independent RTP Stack that can be reused >> out-of-box, >> > but is TODO >> > You can start withhttp:// >> code.google.com/p/mobicents/source/browse/#svn/trunk/servers/m... >> > understand the architecture and of course forum is helpful.
>> > Amit.
>> > On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 9:35 PM, thomas <lese...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > Hi all,
>> > > We have started to develop a SIP/IMS phone a few months ago. We tried >> > > a few SIP stacks and chose JSIP since it worked without any problem. >> > > Media was working fine before Google removed the javasound support >> > > (though the emulator had a few bugs with audio capture). We started >> > > with an in-house basic RTP stack and we think that a modularized MMS >> > > would be very nice. We are now working within the sc-android project. >> > > The main issue at the moment is the Android support for audio in/out.
>> > > Anyhow, we are interested to contribute to this kind of project and >> > > also vote for :-)
>> > > Thomas
>> > > On 24 oct, 15:21, "Jean Deruelle" <jean.derue...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > > > From the API it doesn't look like it's possiblehttp:// >> > > code.google.com/android/reference/android/media/MediaRecorder.... >> > > > andhttp:// >> > > code.google.com/android/reference/android/media/MediaPlayer.html. >> > > > But since Google opened it's source code, we should be able to copy >> > > > paste and write new APIs to do so.
>> > > > On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 3:11 PM, Ivelin Ivanov
>> > > > > Stream or file? Is it possible to intercept the writing and >> redirect >> > > > > to a live RTP stream? Same question for reading.
>> > > > > On 10/24/08, Jean Deruelle <jean.derue...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > > >> Also Android can only record to a file. an API would need to be >> built >> > > > >> for recording to an RTP stream
>> > > > >> On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 11:10 AM, Jean Deruelle < >> > > jean.derue...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > > > >> > lol :-)
>> > > > >> > On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 11:09 AM, aayush bhatnagar >> > > > >> > <abhatnagar192...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > > >> >> I vote for it...we won 2-0.
>> > > > >> >> On 10/24/08, Jean Deruelle <jean.derue...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > > >> >>> Yeah it seems Android is not providing a RTP stack so this >> would >> > > need >> > > > >> >>> to be ported. the Media API of Android just allow to play a >> raw >> > > > >> >>> resource, a file from the system, or from an available >> network >> > > (URL if >> > > > >> >>> the file is capable of progressive download.) >> > > > >> >>>http://code.google.com/android/toolbox/apis/media.html >> > > > >> >>> Since MMS provides an RTP stack and after an offline talk, >> Amit >> > > told >> > > > >> >>> me that it would be possible to make the MMS RTP stack >> > > modularized and >> > > > >> >>> externalizable in a standalone jar. Same thing with the >> codecs. >> > > So if >> > > > >> >>> anyone is interested we can put it as an low priority Issue. >> So >> > > please >> > > > >> >>> vote :-) >> > > > >> >>> I vote for it :-) Moreover that this could be also reused >> for a >> > > > >> >>> standalone standard java sip client if needed.
>> > > > >> >>> On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 4:11 AM, aayush bhatnagar >> > > > >> >>> <abhatnagar192...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > > >> >>>>> Were you able to establish a voice call? Does Android >> provide >> > > access >> > > > >> >>>>> to the audio input/output in a way that you can connect to >> RTP >> > > > >> >>>>> streams?
>> > > > >> >>>>> Ivelin
>> > > > >> >>>>> On 10/23/08, Jean Deruelle <jean.derue...@gmail.com> >> wrote:
>> > > > >> >>>>>> Sip communicator is more than just SIP protocol so a bit >> more >> > > work >> > > > >> >>>>>> might be needed to port it to android.
>> > > > >> >>>>>> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 7:59 PM, Amit Bhayani < >> > > amit.bhay...@gmail.com> >> > > > >> >>>>>> wrote: >> > > > >> >>>>>> > Ahh so its already started, I was referring to >> original SIP >> > > > >> >>>>>> Communicator >> > > > >> >>>>>> > project.
>> > > > >> >>>>>> > On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 11:23 PM, aayush bhatnagar >> > > > >> >>>>>> > <abhatnagar192...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > > >> >>>>>> >> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 11:13 PM, Amit Bhayani >> > > > >> >>>>>> <amit.bhay...@gmail.com> >> > > > >> >>>>>> >> wrote:
>> > > > >> >>>>>> >>> Can one of us try directly using Sip Communicator, >> we >> > > don't have to >> > > > >> >>>>>> >>> reinvent the wheel.
>> > > > >> >>>>>> >>> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 11:05 PM, aayush bhatnagar >> > > > >> >>>>>> >>> <abhatnagar192...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > > >> >>>>>> >>>> Hmm great..if something like that can be done. Or >> maybe >> > > JSR 281 >> > > > >> >>>>>> APIs >> > > > >> >>>>>> >>>> can be clubbed with android to make an IMS client.
>> > > > >> >>>>>> >>>> On 10/23/08, Vicky Kak <vicky....@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > > > >> >>>>>> >>>> > Yes you can do that ;)
>> > > > >> >>>>>> >>>> > On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 10:19 PM, aayush >> bhatnagar < >> > > > >> >>>>>> >>>> > abhatnagar192...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > > >> >>>>>> >>>> >> Wow. This is great. >> > > > >> >>>>>> >>>> >> Does this mean that i can build an IMS client >> using >> > > Jsip on top >> > > > >> >>>>>> of >> > > > >> >>>>>> >>>> >> Android >> > > > >> >>>>>> >>>> >> ?? It can be a possibility !
>> > > > >> >>>>>> >>>> >> Aayush
>> > > > >> >>>>>> >>>> >> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 9:49 PM, Jean Deruelle >> > > > >> >>>>>> >>>> >> <jean.derue...@gmail.com>wrote:
>> > > > >> >>>>>> >>>> >>> Hi guys,
>> > > > >> >>>>>> >>>> >>> Since I got a bit of spare time yesterday night >> and >> > > that I saw >> > > > >> >>>>>> that >> > > > >> >>>>>> >>>> >>> Android was available in US. I wondered for >> those >> > > that are >> > > > >> >>>>>> >>>> >>> interested >> > > > >> >>>>>> >>>> >>> in building mobile SIP client apps if the jsip >> stack >> > > could run >> > > > >> >>>>>> on >> > > > >> >>>>>> >>>> >>> android. >> > > > >> >>>>>> >>>> >>> And it actually does without any modifications >> :-)
>> > > > >> >>>>>> >>>> >>> I ported the Shootme and Shootist examples to >> > > android to >> > > > >> >>>>>> showcase >> > > > >> >>>>>> >>>> >>> it.
>> > > > >> >>>>>> >>>> >>> More details are available here
ivelin.atanasoff.iva...@gmail.com> wrote: > Its starting to get a bit more exciting. Vladimir showed me how Android can > run on a Windows Mobile device via boot loader switch, which broadens the > Android deploy base quickly.
> On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 9:54 AM, Jean Deruelle <jean.derue...@gmail.com>wrote:
>> On a related note : Skype is coming on the Android App Market :-)
>>> On Oct 24, 5:26 pm, "Amit Bhayani" <amit.bhay...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> > Hi Thomas,
>>> > Thanks for showing interest. can you please point us to your RTP Stack? >>> Is >>> > it open source? >>> > The MMS code can be found athttp:// >>> code.google.com/p/mobicents/source/browse/#svn/trunk/servers/m...
>>> > As of now there is no independent RTP Stack that can be reused >>> out-of-box, >>> > but is TODO >>> > You can start withhttp:// >>> code.google.com/p/mobicents/source/browse/#svn/trunk/servers/m... >>> > understand the architecture and of course forum is helpful.
>>> > Amit.
>>> > On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 9:35 PM, thomas <lese...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > > Hi all,
>>> > > We have started to develop a SIP/IMS phone a few months ago. We tried >>> > > a few SIP stacks and chose JSIP since it worked without any problem. >>> > > Media was working fine before Google removed the javasound support >>> > > (though the emulator had a few bugs with audio capture). We started >>> > > with an in-house basic RTP stack and we think that a modularized MMS >>> > > would be very nice. We are now working within the sc-android project. >>> > > The main issue at the moment is the Android support for audio in/out.
>>> > > Anyhow, we are interested to contribute to this kind of project and >>> > > also vote for :-)
>>> > > Thomas
>>> > > On 24 oct, 15:21, "Jean Deruelle" <jean.derue...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> > > > From the API it doesn't look like it's possiblehttp:// >>> > > code.google.com/android/reference/android/media/MediaRecorder.... >>> > > > andhttp:// >>> > > code.google.com/android/reference/android/media/MediaPlayer.html. >>> > > > But since Google opened it's source code, we should be able to copy >>> > > > paste and write new APIs to do so.
>>> > > > On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 3:11 PM, Ivelin Ivanov
>>> > > > > Stream or file? Is it possible to intercept the writing and >>> redirect >>> > > > > to a live RTP stream? Same question for reading.
>>> > > > > On 10/24/08, Jean Deruelle <jean.derue...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > > > >> Also Android can only record to a file. an API would need to be >>> built >>> > > > >> for recording to an RTP stream
>>> > > > >> On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 11:10 AM, Jean Deruelle < >>> > > jean.derue...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> > > > >> > lol :-)
>>> > > > >> > On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 11:09 AM, aayush bhatnagar >>> > > > >> > <abhatnagar192...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > > > >> >> I vote for it...we won 2-0.
>>> > > > >> >> On 10/24/08, Jean Deruelle <jean.derue...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > > > >> >>> Yeah it seems Android is not providing a RTP stack so this >>> would >>> > > need >>> > > > >> >>> to be ported. the Media API of Android just allow to play a >>> raw >>> > > > >> >>> resource, a file from the system, or from an available >>> network >>> > > (URL if >>> > > > >> >>> the file is capable of progressive download.) >>> > > > >> >>>http://code.google.com/android/toolbox/apis/media.html >>> > > > >> >>> Since MMS provides an RTP stack and after an offline talk, >>> Amit >>> > > told >>> > > > >> >>> me that it would be possible to make the MMS RTP stack >>> > > modularized and >>> > > > >> >>> externalizable in a standalone jar. Same thing with the >>> codecs. >>> > > So if >>> > > > >> >>> anyone is interested we can put it as an low priority >>> Issue. So >>> > > please >>> > > > >> >>> vote :-) >>> > > > >> >>> I vote for it :-) Moreover that this could be also reused >>> for a >>> > > > >> >>> standalone standard java sip client if needed.
>>> > > > >> >>> On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 4:11 AM, aayush bhatnagar >>> > > > >> >>> <abhatnagar192...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > > > >> >>>>> Were you able to establish a voice call? Does Android >>> provide >>> > > access >>> > > > >> >>>>> to the audio input/output in a way that you can connect >>> to RTP >>> > > > >> >>>>> streams?
>>> > > > >> >>>>> Ivelin
>>> > > > >> >>>>> On 10/23/08, Jean Deruelle <jean.derue...@gmail.com> >>> wrote:
>>> > > > >> >>>>>> Sip communicator is more than just SIP protocol so a >>> bit more >>> > > work >>> > > > >> >>>>>> might be needed to port it to android.
>>> > > > >> >>>>>> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 7:59 PM, Amit Bhayani < >>> > > amit.bhay...@gmail.com> >>> > > > >> >>>>>> wrote: >>> > > > >> >>>>>> > Ahh so its already started, I was referring to >>> original SIP >>> > > > >> >>>>>> Communicator >>> > > > >> >>>>>> > project.
>>> > > > >> >>>>>> > On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 11:23 PM, aayush bhatnagar >>> > > > >> >>>>>> > <abhatnagar192...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > > > >> >>>>>> >> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 11:13 PM, Amit Bhayani >>> > > > >> >>>>>> <amit.bhay...@gmail.com> >>> > > > >> >>>>>> >> wrote:
>>> > > > >> >>>>>> >>> Can one of us try directly using Sip Communicator, >>> we >>> > > don't have to >>> > > > >> >>>>>> >>> reinvent the wheel.
>>> > > > >> >>>>>> >>> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 11:05 PM, aayush bhatnagar >>> > > > >> >>>>>> >>> <abhatnagar192...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > > > >> >>>>>> >>>> Hmm great..if something like that can be done. Or >>> maybe >>> > > JSR 281 >>> > > > >> >>>>>> APIs >>> > > > >> >>>>>> >>>> can be clubbed with android to make an IMS client.
>>> > > > >> >>>>>> >>>> On 10/23/08, Vicky Kak <vicky....@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> > > > >> >>>>>> >>>> > Yes you can do that ;)
>>> > > > >> >>>>>> >>>> > On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 10:19 PM, aayush >>> bhatnagar < >>> > > > >> >>>>>> >>>> > abhatnagar192...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > > > >> >>>>>> >>>> >> Wow. This is great. >>> > > > >> >>>>>> >>>> >> Does this mean that i can build an IMS client >>> using >>> > > Jsip on top >>> > > > >> >>>>>> of >>> > > > >> >>>>>> >>>> >> Android >>> > > > >> >>>>>> >>>> >> ?? It can be a possibility !
>>> > > > >> >>>>>> >>>> >> Aayush
>>> > > > >> >>>>>> >>>> >> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 9:49 PM, Jean Deruelle >>> > > > >> >>>>>> >>>> >> <jean.derue...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>> > > > >> >>>>>> >>>> >>> Hi guys,
>>> > > > >> >>>>>> >>>> >>> Since I got a bit of spare time yesterday >>> night and >>> > > that I saw >>> > > > >> >>>>>> that >>> > > > >> >>>>>> >>>> >>> Android was available in US. I wondered for >>> those >>> > > that are >>> > > > >> >>>>>> >>>> >>> interested >>> > > > >> >>>>>> >>>> >>> in building mobile SIP client apps if the jsip >>> stack >>> > > could run >>> > > > >> >>>>>> on >>> > > > >> >>>>>> >>>> >>> android. >>> > > > >> >>>>>> >>>> >>> And it actually does without any modifications >>> :-)
>>> > > > >> >>>>>> >>>> >>> I ported the Shootme and Shootist examples to >>> > > android to >>> > > > >> >>>>>> showcase >>> > > > >> >>>>>> >>>> >>> it.
>>> > > > >> >>>>>> >>>> >>> More details are available here
> how do you do that ? any link, tutorials ? it happens I do have a Windows > Mobile device...
> On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 1:28 PM, Ivelin Ivanov < > ivelin.atanasoff.iva...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Its starting to get a bit more exciting. Vladimir showed me how Android >> can run on a Windows Mobile device via boot loader switch, which broadens >> the Android deploy base quickly.
>> On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 9:54 AM, Jean Deruelle <jean.derue...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>> On a related note : Skype is coming on the Android App Market :-)
>>>> On Oct 24, 5:26 pm, "Amit Bhayani" <amit.bhay...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> > Hi Thomas,
>>>> > Thanks for showing interest. can you please point us to your RTP >>>> Stack? Is >>>> > it open source? >>>> > The MMS code can be found athttp:// >>>> code.google.com/p/mobicents/source/browse/#svn/trunk/servers/m...
>>>> > As of now there is no independent RTP Stack that can be reused >>>> out-of-box, >>>> > but is TODO >>>> > You can start withhttp:// >>>> code.google.com/p/mobicents/source/browse/#svn/trunk/servers/m... >>>> > understand the architecture and of course forum is helpful.
>>>> > Amit.
>>>> > On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 9:35 PM, thomas <lese...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > > Hi all,
>>>> > > We have started to develop a SIP/IMS phone a few months ago. We >>>> tried >>>> > > a few SIP stacks and chose JSIP since it worked without any problem. >>>> > > Media was working fine before Google removed the javasound support >>>> > > (though the emulator had a few bugs with audio capture). We started >>>> > > with an in-house basic RTP stack and we think that a modularized MMS >>>> > > would be very nice. We are now working within the sc-android >>>> project. >>>> > > The main issue at the moment is the Android support for audio >>>> in/out.
>>>> > > Anyhow, we are interested to contribute to this kind of project and >>>> > > also vote for :-)
>>>> > > Thomas
>>>> > > On 24 oct, 15:21, "Jean Deruelle" <jean.derue...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> > > > From the API it doesn't look like it's possiblehttp:// >>>> > > code.google.com/android/reference/android/media/MediaRecorder.... >>>> > > > andhttp:// >>>> > > code.google.com/android/reference/android/media/MediaPlayer.html. >>>> > > > But since Google opened it's source code, we should be able to >>>> copy >>>> > > > paste and write new APIs to do so.
>>>> > > > On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 3:11 PM, Ivelin Ivanov
>>>> > > > > Stream or file? Is it possible to intercept the writing and >>>> redirect >>>> > > > > to a live RTP stream? Same question for reading.
>>>> > > > > On 10/24/08, Jean Deruelle <jean.derue...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > > > >> Also Android can only record to a file. an API would need to >>>> be built >>>> > > > >> for recording to an RTP stream
>>>> > > > >> On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 11:10 AM, Jean Deruelle < >>>> > > jean.derue...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> > > > >> > lol :-)
>>>> > > > >> > On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 11:09 AM, aayush bhatnagar >>>> > > > >> > <abhatnagar192...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > > > >> >> I vote for it...we won 2-0.
>>>> > > > >> >> On 10/24/08, Jean Deruelle <jean.derue...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote:
>>>> > > > >> >>> Yeah it seems Android is not providing a RTP stack so this >>>> would >>>> > > need >>>> > > > >> >>> to be ported. the Media API of Android just allow to play >>>> a raw >>>> > > > >> >>> resource, a file from the system, or from an available >>>> network >>>> > > (URL if >>>> > > > >> >>> the file is capable of progressive download.) >>>> > > > >> >>>http://code.google.com/android/toolbox/apis/media.html >>>> > > > >> >>> Since MMS provides an RTP stack and after an offline talk, >>>> Amit >>>> > > told >>>> > > > >> >>> me that it would be possible to make the MMS RTP stack >>>> > > modularized and >>>> > > > >> >>> externalizable in a standalone jar. Same thing with the >>>> codecs. >>>> > > So if >>>> > > > >> >>> anyone is interested we can put it as an low priority >>>> Issue. So >>>> > > please >>>> > > > >> >>> vote :-) >>>> > > > >> >>> I vote for it :-) Moreover that this could be also reused >>>> for a >>>> > > > >> >>> standalone standard java sip client if needed.
>>>> > > > >> >>> On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 4:11 AM, aayush bhatnagar >>>> > > > >> >>> <abhatnagar192...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > > > >> >>>>> Were you able to establish a voice call? Does Android >>>> provide >>>> > > access >>>> > > > >> >>>>> to the audio input/output in a way that you can connect >>>> to RTP >>>> > > > >> >>>>> streams?
>>>> > > > >> >>>>> Ivelin
>>>> > > > >> >>>>> On 10/23/08, Jean Deruelle <jean.derue...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote:
>>>> > > > >> >>>>>> Sip communicator is more than just SIP protocol so a >>>> bit more >>>> > > work >>>> > > > >> >>>>>> might be needed to port it to android.
>>>> > > > >> >>>>>> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 7:59 PM, Amit Bhayani < >>>> > > amit.bhay...@gmail.com> >>>> > > > >> >>>>>> wrote: >>>> > > > >> >>>>>> > Ahh so its already started, I was referring to >>>> original SIP >>>> > > > >> >>>>>> Communicator >>>> > > > >> >>>>>> > project.
>>>> > > > >> >>>>>> > On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 11:23 PM, aayush bhatnagar >>>> > > > >> >>>>>> > <abhatnagar192...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > > > >> >>>>>> >> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 11:13 PM, Amit Bhayani >>>> > > > >> >>>>>> <amit.bhay...@gmail.com> >>>> > > > >> >>>>>> >> wrote:
>>>> > > > >> >>>>>> >>> Can one of us try directly using Sip Communicator, >>>> we >>>> > > don't have to >>>> > > > >> >>>>>> >>> reinvent the wheel.
>>>> > > > >> >>>>>> >>> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 11:05 PM, aayush bhatnagar >>>> > > > >> >>>>>> >>> <abhatnagar192...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > > > >> >>>>>> >>>> Hmm great..if something like that can be done. Or >>>> maybe >>>> > > JSR 281 >>>> > > > >> >>>>>> APIs >>>> > > > >> >>>>>> >>>> can be clubbed with android to make an IMS >>>> client.
>>>> > > > >> >>>>>> >>>> On 10/23/08, Vicky Kak <vicky....@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> > > > >> >>>>>> >>>> > Yes you can do that ;)
>>>> > > > >> >>>>>> >>>> > On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 10:19 PM, aayush >>>> bhatnagar < >>>> > > > >> >>>>>> >>>> > abhatnagar192...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > > > >> >>>>>> >>>> >> Wow. This is great. >>>> > > > >> >>>>>> >>>> >> Does this mean that i can build an IMS client >>>> using >>>> > > Jsip on top >>>> > > > >> >>>>>> of >>>> > > > >> >>>>>> >>>> >> Android >>>> > > > >> >>>>>> >>>> >> ?? It can be a possibility !
>>>> > > > >> >>>>>> >>>> >> Aayush
>>>> > > > >> >>>>>> >>>> >> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 9:49 PM, Jean Deruelle >>>> > > > >> >>>>>> >>>> >> <jean.derue...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>> > > > >> >>>>>> >>>> >>> Hi guys,
>>>> > > > >> >>>>>> >>>> >>> Since I got a bit of spare time yesterday >>>> night and >>>> > > that I saw >>>> > > > >> >>>>>> that >>>> > > > >> >>>>>> >>>> >>> Android was available in US. I wondered for >>>> those >>>> > > that are >>>> > > > >> >>>>>> >>>> >>> interested >>>> > > > >> >>>>>> >>>> >>> in building mobile SIP client apps if the >>>> jsip stack >>>> > > could run >>>> > > > >> >>>>>> on >>>> > > > >> >>>>>> >>>> >>> android. >>>> > > > >> >>>>>> >>>> >>> And it actually does without any >>>> modifications :-)
>>>> > > > >> >>>>>> >>>> >>> I ported the Shootme and Shootist examples to >>>> > > android to >>>> > > > >> >>>>>> showcase >>>> > > > >> >>>>>> >>>> >>> it.
>>>> > > > >> >>>>>> >>>> >>> More details are available here
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