Google Groups no longer supports new Usenet posts or subscriptions. Historical content remains viewable.
Dismiss

Minneapolis Gay Man with Blogspot is having a Hard Time!

1 view
Skip to first unread message

Nomen Nescio

unread,
Dec 28, 2011, 3:25:31 AM12/28/11
to
(UPI) OFFICIAL COMMENTARY RELEASE - MINNEAPOLIS
Mary-Lou Wiggins

David Jones is not a runner, he is not jogger, he is not a man but
attached to his gay jeans (genes) <cough> literally. Mr. Jones is
causing quite a stir amongst the international butch gay community his
struggles living with HIV since 2009.

Jones has been living with an auto-mechanic (Toni) since 1989 yet both
have been enduring a lot of shit slinging over Davids' daily posting of
their private lives including Daves' use of a controlled narcotic and
Daves' expressiveness in playing the female role of the relationship.
Dave and Toni are not married nor has it been established who is the top
and who is the b o t t o m. But does it matter? Inquiring minds in
Minneapolis want to know.

Reproduced below are excerpts from the blog. Captivating is a comment
by a logical gay man named "Cam" who raises some interesting points.
Dave's girly man exemplification throws back years
of gay rights but how can these two from Minneapolis call themselves a
couple when they aren't actively involved in a gay marriage?

An investigator called Mr. Jones but was only met with a screaming
tirade that rivaled a drunk cheetah skinned drag Queen being thrown out
of a cocktail lounge. We gave up trying to talk to Toni, when the heavy
Brooklyn gum chewing dude kept answering with "Yeah!" , "No way man" ,
"Oh! Puleeeze, you got some business talk (phone slam!)".

Our investigator has also posted Anonymously with legitimate querys
regarding the issue only to have them ignored by Mr. Jones. So who is
being fair and balanced Mr. Jones, you?

The general consensus is you need to set some goals for 2012, stop being
a boorish hag, we know your routine taking care of two blind dogs, and
two other dogs you call your children gets a little sickening. And what
is with referencing your readers as "followers" is myopically
pretentious. So please spare us the whining. Dave do you want us to send
you a large diaper, a giant rattle, a headbib and a big fat pacifier and
label you Baby Huey?

Take a chill pill dear. Perhaps plan your Halloween 2012 costume? May I
suggest for your facial features Mary Pickford. The world will love you
Baby Jane. "'Cause you are Blanche! You are!"
Dave be a man pretty please? And to Cam way to go buddy your stock is
rising in the blogspot community.

The blog in question - http://daveslifelivingwithhiv.blogspot.com

December 24, 2011 Saturday Morning
Dave: "I came on line to post and first looked to see if I had any
comments. I soon read the comment by Cam on December 21st post. WOW!
What a way to ruin someones day. More on this later.
Last night we watched two good movies. We watched Contagion and Final
Destination 5. Both were great movies, or I should say, we thought they
were very enjoyable and entertaining. Went to bed a little
after 11 PM.
This morning we slept in until about 7 AM. Fed the dogs and gave Vito
his shot. Spent the morning reading the newspaper and made some bagels
for breakfast. Tony left around 10 AM to go buy
some hard rolls to take to Christmas Eve at his brother's house tonight.
We were told to bring good hard rolls so Tony went to the local bakery
to buy some. After Tony got back he said he was leaving again to take my
car to the shop to wash it and fill it with gas. I did a little around
the house and started on today's post reading comments from past posts
first.I honestly can not believe the post by Cam on
December 21st and want to address it.
First off I would like you to know how your comment has ruined my day.
You are so negative and mean. Lets go through this point by point. First
off I do know that not every gay man likes dance
music. Everyone has there own taste in music. Mine happens to be dance
music. Even though I do occasionally listen to older rock music like
Pink Floyd and Queen, I do prefer dance music. I have to say I
must not be the only one since when I go to my account where my music is
I can see how many times each mix has been listened to. Some have been
played over 600 times. So I am not the only one that likes
the mixes I make. Why would I make lets say a Country mix when I do not
like Country music? How do you make a rock dance mix when you don't like
hard rock? I listen to my music in my car and during
the day when I am cleaning. I might not mention every move in my day and
one of them might be listening to an hour of music during the day. But
if I watched more TV than listened to music I will most likely
post about the TV rather than the hour of music I listened to. We did go
to night clubs and I love dancing to music. Of course a 50 year old
looks out of place on the dance floor at the clubs so making the
mixes and listening to them in my own home or car is my way to still
enjoy the music. Hell, I might even dance a little as I listen to the
mix in my living room as I am cleaning or working out. I read
two newspapers a day, the Milwaukee Journal and USA today, so how do I
not read. I get Entertainment Weekly and 3 gay magazines monthly. Now
lets move on to the flowers bullshit. Why is getting
flowers considered a bad or gay thing? Just because you do not like
getting them and obviously giving them, does not make them something
someone else might want to get. I guess it is kinda like some people
like Country music, some like Opera.
Some people like flowers some do not. When did any of that turn into a
housewife thing or gay thing. I just would love to receive flowers once
in a while. To say one man giving another flowers is
'beyond a sick embarrassing joke' is just unbelievable. I can tell you
are not a very giving person. What do you consider a 'man' gift? Tools?
We have all the tools and such to repair the house already. Hell, are
you even in a relationship? Do you realize not all relationships are the
same and people have different needs and wants?
Honestly Cam, I don't need you reading my blog and making me feel I am
less then someone in your eyes due to what music I like to listen to or
how we express our love to each other. I did not
create this blog to get criticized about what I do, it was to help
others living with HIV and AIDS in any way I can and show them on a
daily basis what my life is like living with this disease. I have never
read such a mean spirited comment on my blog in the three years of doing
this, and I hope to never again. I will continue with my blog because of
all the people I have helped and contacted me with questions and needing
support. I will not let a person like yourself make someone like me feel
less because of what music I listen to and like and what gifts I like to
receive. This is MY BLOG. MY LIFE. I AM A MAN. If
you don't like it, don't read about it.
With that said, Have a Merry Christmas!"

COMMENTS:

Anonymous said...

As a gay man, the stereotypical gay dance crap shits me to tears and
embarasses the hell outa me that some of us are like that still.
Especially if the guy is older than 30 its lame childish and sad. I
don't get why you can't do some good band mixes, rock etc. I mean, who
are you doing the mixes for? Going by your blog you and Tony don't go to
night clubs or go to dances, hell all you ever do is watch tv. No
afternoons listening to music as a couple. No hosting parties at your
house. You don't seem to do anything except watch tv. No reading, no
games, no nothing. So am not sure why you do the mixes since if go
by your blog you never spend time listening to them or put your mixes to
good use with entertaining. Also, whats this shit with flowers and
candy? Are you serious? Of course we need to have and be in touch
with our feminine side, but if I was into girly stuff, I'd be straight
and with a woman. A man giving another man flowers is just beyond a sick
embarrassing joke. Its humiliating and its no wonder we have that
'pooncy' limp-wristed stereotype. Please leave the pink stuff, the
candy, the flowers and the tween dance music to the girls and under 20s
(or at least under 30s). A man talking about getting flowers as if he is
the little wife at home (just because you're gay doesn't mean you have
to adopt the little wife at home cooking, cleaning and getting flowers
from the hubby role - you're a MAN!) and doing teeny bopper dance music
at your age is just way beyond tragic and way way beyond sad. I love
reading about your relationship dynamic and your dogs and how another
person deals with life as I am. But please cut the teeny
bopper girly dance shit and the talk about receiving flowers. We don't
need people who enforce stereotypes and keep as locked into them.
Try doing some Beatles, some rock, Queen, Pink Floyd, Meatloaf,
bands from 60s to now, hell any mix that isn't kiddy dance rubbish.
We're gay. Not teenybopper girls. There is a difference. Gay men like
real music too.
Cam

--
Anonymous said...

Wow, what a massive OVER-REACTION!!

Ok, YOU ask for comments and opinions on your blog. You have to
accept both, both good and bad or else state you don't want comments
that don't agree with yours. Don't do a blog if you can't handle
some criticism or feedback. Perhaps you are too sensitive and can't
handle it. You asked for feedback. Honest feedback, I assumed. When you
put a blog up detailing your life, then what do you expect? You
will get comments, positive and negative. If you only want praise and
agreement, then perhaps you should say that and put a disclaimer saying
no constructive criticism or other views that differ from mine
allowed. YOU made your life public. Seriously what did you expect? Close
your blog to opinions if you don't want to receive opinions.
"rock dance mix when you don't like hard rock"
Um, why does it have to be a dance mix? Why not just a mix? And
there is a difference between rock n roll and hard rock. YOU asked if
anyone is listening to your mixes. YOU asked us our opinions.
Next time, just say you only want opinions that agree with you then, if
you get so hysterical and bent out of shape because someone gave you
what YOU asked for; opinions, FEEDBACK.
When I said reading, I meant like reading novels, you know, books.
Not newspapers and magazines.
"To say one man giving another flowers is 'beyond a sick embarrassing
joke' is just unbelievable."
Thats fair enough. I acknowledge I went over-board. But please
understand that some of us, and those that have gone before us have
fought so hard for our rights to be taken seriously. Having a man, a
grown 50 year old man talking about teeny bopper dance music and
receiving flowers and candy the way a girl would, is embarrassing to
SOME of us in the gay community and makes us cringe. The
stereotypes about us have persisted for so long, and for some of our
side to perpetuate it, is cringe worthy and makes some wonder why we
bother. The fact is, I know of no man, gay or straight, who wants
to receive flowers, any more than he would want to receive a lipstick
set or perfume. A man receiving flowers makes no sense at all. And just
reinforces those stereotypes that really frustrates some in the
LGBT community. You seem to have taken on the girl role; flowers,
staying at home and cooking for your husband, vacuuming etc while he
goes to work. I'm not saying thats a bad thing. But why can't things
be gender neutral? I guess I'm making no sense but I feel so frustrated
when I see some in the community live up to the stereotypes of girly men
that have seen so many of us being bashed or worse, killed.
Please understand that some of us want to change societal opinions of
us, and its counterproductive and frustrating to see a fellow gay man
act like a tearful girl who likes flowers and dance music. Its just so
frustrating.

December 24, 2011 10:05 PM

--
Anonymous said...

(my message was truncated in half)

Bottom line is, YOU opened this blog to the world. YOU ask for
feedback. YOU asked for feedback about who listens to your dance mixes.
If you can't handle criticism, maybe you are too sensitive for
the net. I won't even go into depth about how you need to mention you
give Vito his shot every post. Thats a common thing and most bloggers
don't write info like got up, went to the toilet, brushed
teeth(rhetorical), fed dogs, gave dog shot. Of course we know all that.
I have dabbled in a private blog before and I never started each day
with got up at...., gave Max his shot. It doesn't need to be said.
Those are all daily routine and doesn't need to be mentioned, but,
whatever. Or you complaining about money but every second entry you are
down at the shops buying this for the home or that. And your vet
conning you out of so much money such as testing every 3 months? I have
3 dogs, 1 with diabetes and as long as Max is ok he just needs a blood
test at his yearly checkup and we go home and ring for the
results later (Max doesn't stay there). And getting their nails clipped
- $5. Nail clippers. Vet supply store. Its easy to do yourself. You're
being taken advantage of. You seem to spend and waste so much
money, you are forever buying something, but then collect food at a food
bank. On cholesterol tablets? But always going to McDonalds for greasy
bacon and egg McMuffins. Yes, I know I'm being petty. And
maybe its being peed off at being attacked and having my post
over-reacted to. But I sure am glad I have never commented until now if
this is the over-reaction and hysterics a reader's contribution is met with.

--

Anonymous said...

Bottom line, yes its my choice to read. Which I think I'll now
re-think because of your attitude and over-reaction. And yes, I worded
things more harsh than I think I meant to. But just know that some of us
in the community get very frustrated with people like yourself who keep
the stereotypes alive, as much as you are annoyed and upset at me for
saying it. I have little tolerance for men who are clearly girls inside
but can't acknowledge it and want to drag us backwards when we have
fought so hard, and I do mean SO hard, to be seen as men, equal to
heterosexual men. I makes me angry, hurt, frustrated and like I
want to give up. But, I'm gay, I'm proud, and I can't give up, no matter
how many obstacles my own kind who can't work out what gender they are,
want to throw in my/our way.
Yes, it was my choice to read, and in the face of such hostility I
shant re-visit this blog again after this is sent, but remember that YOU
take the risk of receiving opinions contrary to yours. You are the one
exposing your life and inviting others in, its YOUR choice to let people
comment on your blog, to let them read, critique, comment. You lose the
right to be indignant the moment you share your life freely online for
readers to read and comment on. YOU post YOUR life online FOR people to
read and comment on. If you can't hack it, maybe you should re-think
doing it or close the comments section since you are
obviously not after any constructive or objective input at all.

Goodbye.
Cam

Source:
http://daveslifelivingwithhiv.blogspot.com/2011/12/december-24-2011-saturday-morning.html

END

0 new messages