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Re: A 4/26 UPDATE: SPEWS & NANAE 'Leaders', Major Abusers and Spammers

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"Anonyma" <anon-b...@deuxpi.ca> wrote in message
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<--Brad Jesness is a Spanked Commercial Spammer & Cyberstalking Troll
*bravely* hiding behind Anonymous Remailers etched this into USENET
History!:?0)

Off Topic ECP NG's removed and Replies Posted to Brad's Mn.general and
alt.brad.jesness.die.die.die where it's On Topic!

Remember these Spams Brad?

Subject: For $21 Give Your WHOLE Family the MMPI-2 for Christmas!!
Message-ID: <Xns9727B2075EF...@213.155.197.138>
Subject: Christmas: Give your whole family the MMPI-2 for $20.98
Message-ID: <Xns9724B08CF29...@213.155.197.138>
Subject: Christmas: Give your whole family the MMPI-2 for $19.99
Message-ID: <Xns97249826E58...@213.155.197.138>

Brad's Domains pulled for Spamming:
http://www.jojared-asshole.info
http://www.bradjesnes.org
http://www.danrogers-unethical-psychologist.info
http://www.unethical-psychologists.info
http://www.joejared-is-taylorjimenez.info
http://www.lesliepacker-tourette-psychologist.info

And how about an Email from Yahoo to prove they were pulled for Spamming:

Return-Path: <networ...@cc.yahoo-inc.com>
>Received: from rly-na06.mx.aol.com (rly-na06.mail.aol.com
[172.18.151.235]) by air-na04.mail.aol.com (v107.13) with ESMTP id
MAILINNA43-2d274383c7c71ad; Tue, 22 Nov 2005 20:37:11 -0500
>Received: from mail-relay1.yahoo.com (mail-relay1.yahoo.com
[216.145.48.34]) by rly-na06.mx.aol.com (v107.13) with ESMTP id
MAILRELAYINNA67-6b14383c7c4a3; Tue, 22 Nov 2005 20:37:09 -0500
>Received: from speedster.cc.kana.corp.yahoo.com
(speedster.cc.kana.corp.yahoo.com [207.126.228.28])
> by mail-relay1.yahoo.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/mr1) with SMTP id jAN1YXOE023065
> for <xxxxxxxxx>; Tue, 22 Nov 2005 17:37:08 -0800 (PST)
>DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; s=serpent; d=yahoo-inc.com; c=nofws;
q=dns;
> h=date:to:subject:from:reply-to:mime-version:content-type:
> content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer;
> b=fCUVBxUeDcz3KTwsgJYbukJQT1FU91v6h81XVmAkjlkFpNJ9H6nX6c2wgZDWK4rt
>Message-Id: <200511230137....@mail-relay1.yahoo.com>
>Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 17:37:08 -0800
>To: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: http://www.bradjesness.org (KMM23371378V9322L0KM)
>From: Yahoo! Customer Care <networ...@cc.yahoo-inc.com>
>Reply-To: Yahoo! Customer Care <networ...@cc.yahoo-inc.com>
>MIME-Version: 1.0
>X-Mailer: KANA Response 7.0.1.142
>X-AOL-IP: 172.18.151.235
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-40CBB
>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>
>Hello,
>
>Thank you for writing to Yahoo! Customer Care.
>
>In this particular case, http://www.bradjesness.org, we have taken
>appropriate action against the Yahoo! account in question that was
>reported for fraudulent activities, as per our Terms of Service (TOS).
>For further details about the Yahoo! TOS, you can visit:
>
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/geoterms.html
>
>Please know that Yahoo! is unable to disclose the action taken on
>another user's account with a third party. We are not able to make
>exceptions to this rule.
>
>Thank you again for contacting Yahoo! Customer Care.
>
>Regards,
>
>Paul

Sucks to be a Spanked Spammer huh Brad?
I guess we all know why your Posting this Crap in Anti-Spam News Groups huh?

> I decided that these links should also appear at the top of this FAQ
>
> Related POST ABOUT CABAL ABUSE DOMAINS: a FAQ:
> http://tinyurl.com/lhw7b
>
> RELATED ** SPEWS FAQ ** : http://tinyurl.com/nszpq
>
> This is a Warning to all decent people:
> NANAE/SPEWS/CABAL punks stalked & harassed ME OFF Usenet info. &
> **NEW MATERIAL**. Let's have some introductory stuff first:
>
> Joe Jared, outed as Usenet Notorious x-no-archive stalker,
> "Taylor Jimenez":
>
> Read http://bradjesness.home.att.net/joe_jared.htm
> and
> http://cyberper.cnc.net/anonCowardStalker.htm
> and
>
> THEN READ THIS (*BELOW*): *** NEW MATERIAL ***: MORE VERY, VERY
> STRONG (most would say, CONCLUSIVE) EVIDENCE that Joe Jared is the
> notorious x-no-archive stalker,
> forger, and spammer, "Taylor Jimenez":
>
> "Kevin" (Joe Jared's poodle, if not another Joe Jared sockpuppet) has
> been NAILED for making BRAZEN defamatory LIES (now proven to be lies)
> against Brad Jesness in sci.psychology.psychotherapy and
> alt.support.tourette and OTHER NEWSGROUPS WHERE HE STALKS, HARASSES,
> AND SPAMS for Joe Jared. See those newsgroups for more.
>
> THIS HAS NOW BECOME AN UPDATED PART OF http://joejared.cc :
>
>
> Yet more direct evidence Joe Jared is spammer/stalker "Taylor Jimenez"
>
> http://tinyurl.com/ef9nl
>
> OR
>
>
http://groups.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/25c8baa8bb059b30?&hl=en&q=insubject%3Amore+insubject%3Aevidence+insubject%3A%22Taylor
>
>
> THIS, followed by tay...@lart.com (Joe Jared) THREATENING EMAILS
>
> http://tinyurl.com/envzs
>
> OR
>
>
http://groups.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/browse_thread/thread/bc5bdb9344076092/920b6fe95746bfde?lnk=st&q=%22owner%40joejared.cc%22&rnum=1&hl=en#920b6fe95746bfde
>
> **AND**
> Re: When did "Just Taylor" ("Taylor Jimenez") quit posting to Usenet??
>
>
http://groups.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/afce199d4238d6d8?dmode=source&hl=en
>
> OR
>
> http://tinyurl.com/nx9wz
>
> (end of NEW Material)
>
> It is April 26th 2006
> **READ ON AND YOU WILL SEE THAT THIS IS VERY MUCH ON-TOPIC.**
> There are simple punks, and then there are CRIMINAL-TYPE PSYCHOPATHS WHO
> ENGAGE IN THREATS AND EXTORTION. THE MAJOR SPEWS FANS ARE THE LATTER.
>
> Related POST ABOUT CABAL ABUSE DOMAINS: http://tinyurl.com/lhw7b
>
> RELATED ** SPEWS FAQ ** : http://tinyurl.com/nszpq
>
>
> MUCH OF THE MATERIAL BELOW IS INDEPENDENTLY CONFIRMED ON THE
fireflysun.com
> web site. This is a web site by a Ph.D. in Social Psychology, who is
> completely independent. Especially see the web page,
http://tinyurl.com/86hj2 OR
>
http://www.fireflysun.com/book/sci.psychology.psychotherapy_stalker_profiles.php
>
> <-- THIS IS ALSO ESSENTIALLY A CHARACTER STUDY OF THE SPEWS' MAIN FRIENDS
> AND CAN BE CONSIDERED AN INTRODUCTION TO THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF SPEWS.
>
> Going from info. on that fireflysun.com web page:
> "Iceman" (the first-described stalking gang CABAL hoodlum) is thought to
be
> Rich Tietjens (aka Richard Tietjens aka "Morely Dotes").
>
> The second stalking gang hoodlum described on that web page is
> "Taylor Jimenez" , WHO IS NOW *KNOWN* TO BE Joe Jared of osirusoft.com
>
> Also, ****Anyhow****,
>
> I have been harassed (via malicious extremely abusive lies & anonymous
stalking)
> BY PEOPLE ASSOCIATED WITH Rich Tietjens and Joe Jared and the NANAE
newsgroup
> to such an extent I can NO LONGER PARTICIPATE ON ANY NEWSGROUP. In fact,
> anonymous "socks" of Joe Jared and/or of Rich Tietjens (aka "Morely
Dotes")
> may well be the anonymous 'people' who have done almost all the LIES,
> FORGERIES AND STALKING AND HARASSMENT. Much of the spam-stalking and
> spam-harassment is associated with the wilhelp.com domain, a domain which
> is, IN EFFECT, ANONYMOUS and a domain which is a MAJOR ICANN VIOLATION.
This
> domain is associated ONLY with the false name (i.e. TRUE ALIAS),
> "Taylor Jimenez", and the P.O. Box mail address given for this domain is
> owned ONLY by Gobbell and Kush and by NO ONE WITH THE NAME "Taylor
Jimenez".
> This ICANN-violating extreme spam and abuse domain IS KNOWINGLY HOSTED
> BY RICHARD TIETJENS (aka "Morely Dotes"). Through extensive
investigations,
> there is now evidence beyond a reasonable doubt that the wilhelp.com
> (and lart.com) owner calling himself "Taylor Jimenez" is IN FACT,
> Joe Jared (aka Stephen Joseph Jared) of osirusoft.com (SPEWS) and of
> oretek.com and of Orange, CA.
>
>
> [Note: http://bradjesness.us is the ONLY Brad Jesness Brad Jesness domain.
> Other bradjesness domains are falsely-registered anonymous
ICANN-violating
> forwarding domains, forwarding to Rich Tietjens' and Joe Jared's
wilhelp.com .]
>
> To commemorate the fact of this libel/stalking/harassment I shall post
here
> ONCE DAILY for each day there is **any** continued harassment of me or of
Brad
> Jesness. When the harassment/defamation stops, I will
> disappear. But, until it stops, I will be here daily. When Rich "the
Nazi"
> Tietjens and his minions end their hypocrisy and double standard ALL POSTS
> BY ME WILL STOP.
>
> I can no longer participate in any other newsgroup because of CABAL
> harassment. People should know that SPEWS is connected to this
> inappropriate CABAL abuse of appropriate ON-TOPIC posters that post
> to other newsgroups.
>
> The worst of the Internet and of Usenet is associated with THE NANAE
> newsgroup as much as it is associated with the sister CABAL newsgroup,
> alt.usenet.kooks. AND, IT IS NOT JUST ME THAT HAS BEEN STALKED, HARASSED,
> LIED ABOUT, LIBELED AND ABUSED BY THIS SAME GROUP OF CABAL PUNKS
> ("Morely Dotes" is self-declared MASTER of the Internet CABAL):
>
> These stalkers have resulted in a woman and her child having to move
> because of their harassment and reportedly the child also had to change
> schools. Indeed, a woman named Linda G. in sci.psychology.psychotherapy
> has been CRIMINALLY stalked and harassed by this same CABAL group.
>
> These CABAL stalkers (just about a dozen, total) use alt.usenet.kooks
> as their homebase and they typically spam-harass and stalk people (EACH)
> into 70 or more different newsgroups (a matter easily verified using
Google
> http://groups.google.com facilities). This criminal cyberstalking is
> supported and participated in by people with lart.com email addresses and
> lart.com is associated with THIS newsgroup and is 'owned' by the SAME
> "Taylor Jimenez" who 'owns' wilhelp.com -- further showing him as a
> criminal-type psychopath.
>
> **AND ALL THIS IS NOT REALLY OFF-TOPIC HERE AT ALL** BECAUSE
> WHEN YOU USE SPEWS THIS IS THE SORT OF HARASSING STALKERS AND ABUSERS
> YOU ARE DEALING WITH.
>
> Who am I? This is From: oNOwnSPAMer <owN...@joejSPAMared.cc>
>
> [NOTE: The email address associated with this post, minus
> the "NO" and the "SPAM" is valid and is the email address of this
> poster. http://joejared.cc is a properly registered domain.]
>
> This is a daily response to daily personal abuse, including abuse
> today.
> Rich Tietjens is a spam host, abuser, and a commercial spammer.
>
> The following posts BY ME are resources for people to investigate
> and SEE THE FALSEHOOD of any slanderous follow-ups to this post
> (I have responded to this garbage likely over 100 times now, as it
> was SPAMMED off-topic to several newsgroups in a very repetitive and
> abusive OFF-TOPIC manner and I do not feel the need to restate it ,
> because these links will OF MY PAST POSTS will answer any questions):
>
> http://tinyurl.com/psrsw OR
>
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.tourette/msg/2aa255c225a69fc1?dmode=source&hl=en
>
> http://tinyurl.com/f3w7j OR
>
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.tourette/msg/5425303acc3c7817?dmode=source
>
> http://tinyurl.com/ojtoc OR
>
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.psychology.psychotherapy/msg/3d402c5500ee33b0?dmode=source&hl=en
>
> http://tinyurl.com/lrnod OR
>
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.gossip.celebrities/msg/689b90f9366e5f4c?dmode=source&hl=en
>
> http://tinyurl.com/pjnw9 OR
>
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.spam/msg/4e09fb5cc440737f?dmode=source&hl=en
>
> http://tinyurl.com/s3n5h OR
>
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.spam/msg/a5145e82c476947d?dmode=source&hl=en
>
> http://tinyurl.com/pq3k2 OR
>
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.spam/msg/517f1968e816d74e?dmode=source&hl=en
>
> http://tinyurl.com/nbsmo OR
>
http://groups.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/msg/cc820f0be8dbd84f?dmode=source&hl=en
>
> --
> Best Psychology Resource Site: http://cyberper.cnc.net
> Rich Tietjens IS "Morely Dotes", spamblocked.com 'CEO',
> PUNK kicked OFF decent host: http://tinyurl.com/9mmgy &
> http://tinyurl.com/7zfzc Joe Jared IS "Taylor Jimenez" More:
> http://tinyurl.com/a7h88 AND ** http://tinyurl.com/6ukk4 **

Boy all that shouting to make your lies look good working for ya Brad?
Somehow I didn't think so LOL!

Brad Jesness Investigated as a Cyberstalker by The Bureau of Criminal
Apprehension in Minnesota for Cyberstalking a Psychologist!:?0
http://www.wilhelp.com/bj_faq/bca.JPG

Brad is ticked he can't pull the above Photo Copy off that Web Site!
If it were Fake Brad would have had it Pulled a long, long time ago!

Brad claims it is Altered but won't Post his Copy of the Agreement to prove
it!

So now Brad has his own Documents, 2 of them yet, on his Web Sites.
The Definition of Desperation as Brad abandons all Common Sense.

Brad Jesness's 2 Forged Word Documents from the BCA clearing him of
Cyberstalking should be in PDF Format but are not.
The Embedded Creation and Modifacation Dates in both Word Documents show
they were both Edited!
http://cyberper.cnc.net/fullDocumentation.htm

Brad didn't do his research though because....
All Official State and Federal Documents are in PDF Format and not Word!

Also Police, State and Federal Courts, Congress, The White House, Library of
Congress, All Public Libraries etc... all use PDF Format!

The fact that *no* PD in the country would ever clear anyone in
writing because it's Policy not to, somehow never occured to Brad!

Here's a good example why:

1. Police Policy is not to Comfirm or Deny a past or present Investigation.
2. Brad is from Minnesota.
3. Denis Rader the BTK Serial Killer is also from Minnesota.
4. Brad's Letters are to clear Brad of *Cyberstalking*!
5. Brad's Letters are dated *before* the BTK Killer was caught.

Number 5 kind of tells you the BCA wasn't clearing anyone at that time, much
less for Cyberstalking while BTK was on the loose!

And Number 1 has always required a Court Order from any PD.

Now for the sake of arguement, let's say it *was* Policy to give out such a
Letter.

What Police Department in their right mind would ever write such a Letter
where there is even the slightest possibility they might give it to the *BTK
Killer* by mistake,... now I ask you, what PD?!

# Remember this is *before* BTK was caught! #

And what if there were such a Letter and that Letter *ever* saw the Light of
Day?
The Media would have a Field Day raking the *BCA* over the Coals along with
the *Officer* who wrote it!

To think that *any* Police Officer would ever write one such Letter, let
alone two, at that time is Laughable at best!

To have us believe the BCA would write such a Letter while they were still
looking for Denis Rader, The BTK Serial Killer, is simply,... AMAZING!

And yet, this is what Brad wants us to believe!

--
Kevin!:?o)

http://www.wilhelp.com/bj_faq/seven.html
Brad's own personal News Group Archive of nearly 3,000 BJ Posts!:?o)
Embarrassing to be outed by yourself ain't it Brad?
*alt.brad.jesness.die.die.die*

For Brad Jesness FAQ's Please see;
http://www.bradjesness.com
http://www.wilhelp.com/bj_faq/
http://www.wilhelp.com/bj_faq/one.html
http://www.wilhelp.com/bj_faq/seven.html
http://www.wilhelp.com/bj_faq/archive.html (AKA www.bradjesness.com)

And then there are the dependable:
http://www.spamblocked.com/bj_faq/
http://www.pearlgates.net/nanae/kooks/bj_faq/
http://www.the-foxhole.org/bjfaq/
http://www.thesbl.com/bradlee
http://www.insurgent.org/~kook-faq/brad/
http://www.seige-perilous.org/bwad/
http://www.morningmist.org/kooks/bj/


oNOwnSPAMer

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Apr 26, 2006, 1:57:58 PM4/26/06
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The following posts are resources for people to investigate
( "!:?\)"'s garbage has likely been responded to over 100 times now, as
it
was SPAMMED off-topic to several newsgroups in a very repetitive and
abusive OFF-TOPIC manner and I do not feel the need to restate it ,
because these OF PAST POSTS will answer any questions):


http://tinyurl.com/psrsw


http://tinyurl.com/f3w7j


http://tinyurl.com/ojtoc


http://tinyurl.com/lrnod


http://tinyurl.com/pjnw9


http://tinyurl.com/s3n5h


http://tinyurl.com/pq3k2


"!:?\)" <!:?)@invalid.nett> wrote in news:cAL3g.3835$Qe.3749@trndny09:

> <cAL3g.3835$Qe.3749@trndny09>

--

Rich Tietjens IS "Morely Dotes", spamblocked.com 'CEO',
PUNK kicked OFF decent host: http://tinyurl.com/9mmgy &
http://tinyurl.com/7zfzc Joe Jared IS "Taylor Jimenez" More:

http://tinyurl.com/a7h88 http://tinyurl.com/6ukk4 Abusers:
http://tinyurl.com/lhw7b ; GOOD Site: http://tinyurl.com/jcovu

oNOwnSPAMer

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Apr 26, 2006, 2:06:17 PM4/26/06
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NOTE:
"!:?\)" aka, "Kevin" is just an anonymous SPAMMING STALKER (who
verizon.net will do NOTHING ABOUT). STILL, PLEASE DO CONTINUE
TO COMPLAIN.

The following letter was obtained by Brad J because of the extreme
harassment by "!:?\)" aka, "Kevin", and other anonymous stalkers,
esp. "Taylor Jimenez" - the ALIAS who owns the ANONYMOUS , ICANN-
violating wilhelp.com domains AND THE MIRRORS.

see the top 2 links on http://cyberper.cnc.net/fullDocumentation.htm

This letter is on Brad J's NON-anonymous, by-name
web site and has been there for 7 months.

(This letter could NOT be a forgery as anonymous stalker "Kevin" claims,
IN FACT THE INFORMATION THAT COMES WITH THE DOCUMENT SHOWS IT WAS
PRODUCED BY Assist. Super. Tim O'Malley's secretary , the PRESENT
secretaty. THERE IS NO WAY IT COULD BE ON BRAD J'S SITE IF IT WERE
A FORGERY.)


A list of links answering all other anonymous "Kevin" lies has been
compiled:


http://tinyurl.com/psrsw


http://tinyurl.com/f3w7j


http://tinyurl.com/ojtoc


http://tinyurl.com/lrnod


http://tinyurl.com/pjnw9


http://tinyurl.com/s3n5h


http://tinyurl.com/pq3k2


"!:?\)" <!:?)@invalid.nett> wrote in news:cAL3g.3835$Qe.3749@trndny09:

>

oNOwnSPAMer

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Apr 26, 2006, 2:11:20 PM4/26/06
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The only forgery is the greatly altered jpg on the anonymous
wilhelp.com personal abuse web site set up against Brad J by
"Taylor Jimenez", a man who for almost ten years was known ONLY
by that alias. Through much investigative work, it has now
been proven "Taylor Jimenez" is Joe Jared of Orange, CA (Stephen
Joseph Jared of osirusoft.com and of oretek.com)

see: http://bradjesness.home.att.net

http://bradjesness.home.att.net/joe_jared.htm

http://cyberper.cnc.net/JaredIsJimenez.htm

http://cyberper.cnc.net/anonCowardStalker.htm

http://cyberper.cnc.net/joe.html

and http://joejared.cc

"!:?\)" <!:?)@invalid.nett> wrote in news:cAL3g.3835$Qe.3749@trndny09:

>

> "Anonyma" <anon-b...@deuxpi.ca> wrote in message
> news:ec8f2eeb4439a89c...@deuxpi.ca...
>

--

Rich Tietjens IS "Morely Dotes", spamblocked.com 'CEO',
PUNK kicked OFF decent host: http://tinyurl.com/9mmgy &
http://tinyurl.com/7zfzc Joe Jared IS "Taylor Jimenez" More:

oNOwnSPAMer

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Apr 26, 2006, 2:30:30 PM4/26/06
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IN SPITE OF numerous complaints to ab...@verizon.net and almost
a thousand pages of documented spam evidence, NOTHING IS
BEING DONE ABOUT "!:?\)" ("Kevin").

STILL: I encourage continued complainsts to ab...@verizon.com

"!:?\)" <!:?)@invalid.nett> wrote in news:cAL3g.3835$Qe.3749@trndny09:

> "!:?\)"

--

Rich Tietjens IS "Morely Dotes", spamblocked.com 'CEO',
PUNK kicked OFF decent host: http://tinyurl.com/9mmgy &
http://tinyurl.com/7zfzc Joe Jared IS "Taylor Jimenez" More:

oNOwnSPAMer

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Apr 26, 2006, 2:31:44 PM4/26/06
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Crap. I meant, ab...@verizon.net

I encourage continued complainsts to ab...@verizon.net about the
malicious off-topic spam by "!:?\)" ("Kevin")

oNOwnSPAMer <owN...@joejSPAMared.cc> wrote in
news:Xns97B189A2EA71...@81.174.50.80:

!:?)

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"oNOwnSPAMer" <owN...@joejSPAMared.cc> wrote in message
news:Xns97B18587F71C...@81.174.50.80...

<--Brad Jesness is a Spanked Commercial Spammer & Cyberstalking Troll
*bravely* hiding behind Anonymous Remailers etched this into USENET
History!:?0)

Remember these Spams Brad?

Subject: For $21 Give Your WHOLE Family the MMPI-2 for Christmas!!
Message-ID: <Xns9727B2075EF...@213.155.197.138>
Subject: Christmas: Give your whole family the MMPI-2 for $20.98
Message-ID: <Xns9724B08CF29...@213.155.197.138>
Subject: Christmas: Give your whole family the MMPI-2 for $19.99
Message-ID: <Xns97249826E58...@213.155.197.138>

Sucks to be a Spammer huh Brad?

> NOTE:
> "!:?\)" aka, "Kevin" is just an anonymous SPAMMING STALKER (who
> verizon.net will do NOTHING ABOUT). STILL, PLEASE DO CONTINUE
> TO COMPLAIN.

You got guts calling me a Spammer Brad.

I make 1 reply to the Hundreds of EMP & ECP Spams attacking me that you have
made in 4 to 5 NG's and that makes me a Spammer?

You are not fooling anyone Brad and it can be seen by looking at all your
Spam Posts.

In this Thread I replied only once yet you replied what 6 times to that one
Post!

You've been caught Spamming for Profit, Get over it, Your Outed!
You've been caught Lying with your own Posts, Get over it, Your Outed!
You've been caught Forging more than once, Get over it, Your Outed!
You've been caught Stalking, Get over it, Your Outed!
Your Credibility is Zero Brad, Get over it, Your Outed!

No one believes you anymore Brad, you've outed yourself way too often.
And the evidence is right there for all to see, Get over it, Your Outed!

Now you want everyone to believe that in the middle of the BTK Hunt, the BCA
would write you a Letter clearing you of Cyberstalking your Nuts!
What have you been smoking Brad?

No PD in the country clears anyone of any investigation, let alone in
Writing!
Why would they let *you* know your being investigated or were at one time?

It is against Policy to confirm or deny, PERIOD Brad!
Any Officer that was to give such a Letter would be given the Boot!
Ask any Reporter and they will tell you for a Cop that's the quickest way to
Unemployment!

Why, because that Letter can come back to haunt them if that person later
commited a Major Crime and that Letter made it to the Media!

Like giving a Letter like that to BTK and then find out he *is* BTK!

The Media would have a Field Day and is why it's a "No Brainer" that it is
Policy for Police Departments accross the Country not to do that!

--
Kevin!:?o)

http://www.wilhelp.com/bj_faq/bca.JPG
And as if that were not enough there's more!

oNOwnSPAMer

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Apr 26, 2006, 5:57:21 PM4/26/06
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This man, "!:?\)", just repeats and repeats and repeats, so someone must
present the real entire story, answering everyones' questions -
except perhaps those of the disingenuous stalker,
"!:?\)" <!:?)@invalid.nett>

Here goes:

Why the letters from O'Malley to Brad J??
Ans.: Leslie Packer abused Police so badly, an extraordinary response
was made to help Brad J

Leslie Packer totally
freaked out the authorities by LYING TO THEM and
DISOBEYING AN AGREEMENT THE POLICE MADE _HER_ MAKE
WITH THEM. This clarifies what I meant when I said:

Because Leslie Packer abused Police so badly, an extraordinary response
had to be made to help Brad J

(I will also repeat the following material, correcting some typos.)

TRUTH IS LESLIE PACKER SO MISUSED AND ABUSED THE POLICE, THAT THEY
HAD TO TAKE UNCHARACTERISTIC ACTIONS TO COMPENSATE BRAD J -
for their bad judgment in listening to or trusting Leslie Packer
(WHO BOTH LIED TO THEM AND DISOBEYED THEM).

BRAD J IS STILL HAVING TO RESPOND TO Leslie Packer's stalker's
pals' accusations. Here is some of the material that has been
presented to counter "!:?\)" aka "anonymous Kevin's" lies:

"!:?\)" <!:?)@invalid.nett>, is a LYING **JACKASS** and
that can easily be shown: Quoting the jackass, "!:?\)" aka "Kevin":

> It has been up much longer than his but it is also the source
> (template) for Brad's Forgeries.

[(end quote of "Kevin", referring to the altered/forged jpg on the
anonymous abuse wilhelp website)]

****BUT****
COMPARE THE ALTERED JPG "!:?\)" (aka stalking "Kevin") CITES with

the docs shown on http://cyberper.cnc.net/fullDocumentation.htm
(see especially the top two links, the links to OFFICIAL, REAL
WORD DOCUMENTS, FROM A MAJOR POLICE AUTHORITY)

Stalking "Kevin", you should research a bit BEFORE TELLING HIS
LIES!!!!!! <LOL>


The template the NEW letters that were written for Brad J
(the Word docs linked to on the fullDocumentation web page)
DO NOT LOOK LIKE THE Word templated used for the altered jpg .

LOOK AND SEE. The letters written for Brad, just about 7 months ago,
use a NEWER TEMPLATE and NOT THE ONE OF THE ALTERED JPG LETTER.

Just look. New template has a COLORED STATE OF MINNESOTA AND A NEW
SECOND ITEM IN THE LIST UNDER THE "Alcohol and Gaming" listing.

The NEW WORD TEMPLATE, used for the RECENT letters written for
Brad J by Assist. Super. Tim O'Malley, have a NEW "Homeland
Security and Emergency Management" subdepartment INSTEAD of a
"Capital Security" subdepartment. THERE ARE OTHER GLARING DIFFERENCES,
showing Brad J DID NOT FORGE THE LETTERS USING THE ALTERED
jpg as a "template". "Kevin" IS NAILED AS A BAD LIAR AND A STUPID
PSYCHOPATH!!!!!!

THUS, "Kevin", the world can see you are insane and a liar , as
well as being a law-breaking harasser and criminal-type psychopath!!!

"Kevin" is just a SICK LOSER.

Countering other lies of "!:?\)" aka anonymous "Kevin":

I think it is said well on http://www.fireflysun.com/book/proxyname.php ,
so I will just quote that web page. Quoting hereon:

The stalkers tried to discredit the BCA document as a forgery, a last-
ditch desperation that would have proved embarrassing to the stalkers had
they ever expressed themselves publicly under their real names. Having
opened the document's properties file, they called attention to the fact
the date the document was printed pre-dates the August 29, 2005 date of
creation, access, and modification by three years. And they also called
attention to the fact the name of the document owner is not the name of
the person whose signature is on the document. But these facts are easily
explained by conventional office practices -- practices of which the
stalkers are no doubt already aware ... the document was e-mailed to Mr.
Jesness from an office associate who pasted the text in an e-mail from
her boss (i.e. the Superintendant) into a template (or Word doc being
used as a template) that contains the agency letterhead and an image
bearing the boss's signature. The date the document was printed signifies
the date the template was last sent to the printer for production of a
hard copy, which was not done in this case (Mr. Jesness was e-mailed the
document).


Still, the cyberstalkers would not surrender their standard fare. One
cyberstalker even went so far as to feign evidence Mr. Jesness bribed the
BCA office secretary.

(end quote)


"!:?\)" <!:?)@invalid.nett> wrote in news:ZKR3g.4734$7c.1736@trndny01:

oNOwnSPAMer

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Apr 26, 2006, 6:02:10 PM4/26/06
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My last response was cut and paste from a post elsewhere, where the post
was in a thread. Let me make the post so it reads like a proper
stand-alone.

This man, "!:?\)", just repeats and repeats and repeats, so someone must
present the real entire story, answering everyones' questions -
except perhaps those of the disingenuous stalker,
"!:?\)" <!:?)@invalid.nett>

Here goes:

Why the letters from O'Malley to Brad J??
Ans.: Leslie Packer abused Police so badly, an extraordinary response
was made to help Brad J

Leslie Packer totally
freaked out the authorities by LYING TO THEM and
DISOBEYING AN AGREEMENT THE POLICE MADE _HER_ MAKE

WITH THEM. In short:

Because Leslie Packer abused Police so badly, an extraordinary response
had to be made to help Brad J

ALSO countering the lies of "!:?\)" aka anonymous "Kevin":

oNOwnSPAMer

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Apr 26, 2006, 6:12:16 PM4/26/06
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Here's a little more.
"!:?\)" aka anonymous stalker "Kevin" is NOT AFTER ANSWERS TO REASONABLE
QUESTIONS nor is he after any reasonable dialog or discussion.

He seeks to wrongfully ruin Brad J's reputation INTENTIONALLY AND
WITH WHAT HE KNOWS ARE LIES.

He is simply backing his VERY GOOD ANONYMOUS PAL, "Taylor Jimenez"
and MAY, IN FACT, BE "Taylor Jimenez". FOR THE MALICIOUS INTENT OF
THESE STALKING HARASSING LYING DEFAMING LAW-BREAKING CRIMINAL-TYPE
PSYCHOPATHS, just see the recent letters from "Taylor Jimenez"!!!:
(He writes to me, ow...@joejared.cc for some reason):

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From: "Just Taylor" <a...@lart.com>
To: <o...@joejared.cc>
Subject: Hi Brad, BYE Brad.
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 10:46:31 -0700
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From: Just Taylor

To: Bradley

Hey Brad,

Now that the vote wrangler declared you net-dead, I
have a few words for you. You're a low-life piece
of shit. I have had the time of my life, fucking
with your head and humiliating you all these years.
Your name is dog shit everywhere you go, and I'm
proud to be one of the handful of people
responsible for destroying your reputation.

Fuck you, Brad. Go croak somewhere, you fucking
asshole. Get off Usenet, or you'll get what you
deserve.

--

Just Taylor
a...@lart.com


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From: "Just Taylor" <a...@lart.com>
To: <o...@joejared.cc>
Subject: You're fucked, Brad.
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 16:15:58 -0700
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From: Just Taylor

To: Brad

Posting private email to Usenet is the act of a scumbag motherfucker.
You
have no idea
how much shit you stepped in, Brad.

--

Just Taylor
a...@lart.com

(end quotes)

"!:?\)" <!:?)@invalid.nett> wrote in news:ZKR3g.4734$7c.1736@trndny01:

>
> "oNOwnSPAMer" <owN...@joejSPAMared.cc> wrote in message
> news:Xns97B18587F71C...@81.174.50.80...
>

[snip}

oNOwnSPAMer

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Apr 26, 2006, 6:16:06 PM4/26/06
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I should make sure that stuff that is NOT signature does not
appear to be signature for google or newsreaders.

So, again, with just a couple of -'s deleted:

From: Just Taylor

To: Bradley

Hey Brad,

-

Just Taylor
a...@lart.com


From: Just Taylor

To: Brad

-

Just Taylor

oNOwnSPAMer

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Apr 26, 2006, 6:19:31 PM4/26/06
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P.S. People should ask "!:?\)" <!:?)@invalid.nett> why he cannot
get any direct real evidence, perhaps of the official pdf
documentation HE DECLARES is the ONLY official documentation!

The answer is that he is a defamatory lying stalking anonymous
spamming thug with ONLY forgeries to support his defamatory
accusations against Brad J.

HE IS A PUNK!!

oNOwnSPAMer <owN...@joejSPAMared.cc> wrote in
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!:?)

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"oNOwnSPAMer" <owN...@joejSPAMared.cc> wrote in message
news:Xns97B1ACB4FEFA...@81.174.50.80...

--

<--Brad Jesness is a Spanked Commercial Spammer & Cyberstalking Troll
*bravely* hiding behind Anonymous Remailers etched this into USENET
History!:?0)

> This man, "!:?\)", just repeats and repeats and repeats, so someone must


> present the real entire story, answering everyones' questions -
> except perhaps those of the disingenuous stalker,
> "!:?\)" <!:?)@invalid.nett>

I out you as a Spammer Selling the MMPI-2 Illegally and had 6 of your
Domains Pulled so you got a Bone to pick so to speak and everyone knows it.

So you EMP & ECP Spam NANAE, Alt.Spam, NANAU, AST, AUK, SPP etc... with
hundreds of Posts calling me a Spammer, Stalker and more.

You got a problem that I can out you as a Liar, Forger, Spammer, Stalker and
Fool each time I reply too!

Truth hurts don't it!

>
> Here goes:
>
> Why the letters from O'Malley to Brad J??
> Ans.: Leslie Packer abused Police so badly, an extraordinary response
> was made to help Brad J

Wow, Abusing Police, what a Novel Idea, LOL!
Nobody's buying it Brad!

>
> Leslie Packer totally
> freaked out the authorities by LYING TO THEM and
> DISOBEYING AN AGREEMENT THE POLICE MADE _HER_ MAKE
> WITH THEM. This clarifies what I meant when I said:

Wow, she totally freaked out the authorities by Lying to them huh?
You mean it's the *first* time that anyone has ever Lied to the BCA, LOL?

Wow, you make the Keystone Cops sound Professional next to the BCA Brad!

>
> Because Leslie Packer abused Police so badly, an extraordinary response
> had to be made to help Brad J

You got a Wimpy BCA there for a woman to do all that to them Brad!
Somehow I don't think they are as incompetent as you make them out to be!

And that explains how you got something that even Donald Trump couldn't get?
That's what made you so important huh? SLAPP!:?o)

You <snicker> expect everyone to believe that, LOL?

>
> (I will also repeat the following material, correcting some typos.)
>
> TRUTH IS LESLIE PACKER SO MISUSED AND ABUSED THE POLICE, THAT THEY
> HAD TO TAKE UNCHARACTERISTIC ACTIONS TO COMPENSATE BRAD J -
> for their bad judgment in listening to or trusting Leslie Packer
> (WHO BOTH LIED TO THEM AND DISOBEYED THEM).

Oh the big bad Psychologist Abused the Big Bad BCA LOL!:?o)
You know how dumb that sounds Brad!

You think it's the first time anyone has ever Lied to them?
You think it's the first time they've been Disobeyed? SLAPP!:?o)

Repeating she Abused the Police 4 times, Freaked them out once and Disobeyed
them 3 times doesn't make your Lies true no matter how many times you Shout
and Repeat them!

Your Statements are Ridiculous on their Face, LOL!

>
> BRAD J IS STILL HAVING TO RESPOND TO Leslie Packer's stalker's
> pals' accusations. Here is some of the material that has been
> presented to counter "!:?\)" aka "anonymous Kevin's" lies:

You've been doing this 8 years with her Brad.
Ain't it time to let your Obsession go since she hasn't Posted to usenet in
5 years?

>
> "!:?\)" <!:?)@invalid.nett>, is a LYING **JACKASS** and
> that can easily be shown: Quoting the jackass, "!:?\)" aka "Kevin":

You can't prove I'm Lying, but I can Prove I'm telling the Truth and that
sticks in your Craw don't it Brad?
It's what happends when you use Lies to fight the Truth!

>
> > It has been up much longer than his but it is also the source
> > (template) for Brad's Forgeries.
>
> [(end quote of "Kevin", referring to the altered/forged jpg on the
> anonymous abuse wilhelp website)]

Two different Documents!
The Jpg is the Agreement you made with Dr. Packer and the BCA Brad.

You say it's Altered but you won't Post your Copy to prove it!

If you don't Post your Copy, you can't prove it.
Prove it Brad or stop Lying about it!
You can't have your cake and eat it too.

Post your Copy!

>
> ****BUT****
> COMPARE THE ALTERED JPG "!:?\)" (aka stalking "Kevin") CITES with

They are two different Documents and you know it!

Post your Copy of the JPG to prove it's Altered.
Why won't you Post your Copy Brad?
You say it clears you but you won't Post it!

WHY?

>
> the docs shown on http://cyberper.cnc.net/fullDocumentation.htm
> (see especially the top two links, the links to OFFICIAL, REAL
> WORD DOCUMENTS, FROM A MAJOR POLICE AUTHORITY)

If your Shouting were True the BCA would be Keystone Cops and not a Mojor
Police Authority!

Word when they should be in PDF Format.
And the Embedded Creation and Modifacation Dates show they were Edited!

It is Police Department Policy *not* to write Letters clearing anyone of any
Crime!

What if BTK was given one before he started Killing and the Media then got a
hold of it?

The answer is Obvious why no PD in the Country ever does that!

>
> Stalking "Kevin", you should research a bit BEFORE TELLING HIS
> LIES!!!!!! <LOL>
>

> <snip> Brad repeating over and over and over Removed!

!:?)

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"oNOwnSPAMer" <owN...@joejSPAMared.cc> wrote in message
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<--Brad Jesness is a Spanked Commercial Spammer & Cyberstalking Troll
*bravely* hiding behind Anonymous Remailers etched this into USENET
History!:?0)

> P.S. People should ask "!:?\)" <!:?)@invalid.nett> why he cannot


> get any direct real evidence, perhaps of the official pdf
> documentation HE DECLARES is the ONLY official documentation!

State and Federal Courts have 2 Systems, one only the Courts use, and PDF
that all other Government Agencies Federal and State use.

That's all Police Departments, Courts, US Supreme Court, Public Libraries,
The Libarary of Congress, Congress, Senate, House, The White House, State
DMV's, etc...

Go to any Government Site and then go to download some Forms.

Better have Adobe though for PDF Format or you won't be able to see any of
the Files or Forms you download!

>
> The answer is that he is a defamatory lying stalking anonymous
> spamming thug with ONLY forgeries to support his defamatory
> accusations against Brad J.
>
> HE IS A PUNK!!

Temper, Temper,
I think everyone here sees you for exactly what you are Brad.

Trying to drown out the Truth like a True Spammer!

Now stop EMP & ECP Spamming USENET with "your the Victim" when anyone can
see by the *shear volume* of your Attack Posts and my *few* Replies who the
Real Victim is here.

Just one of my replies gets 20 plus Replies and Posts accross several NG's,
Daily!!!
All I have to do is defend my name now and then and to show Brad for who and
what he is.

Spanked Spammer out for revenge!

> <snip> repeating rant removed.

--
Kevin!:?o)

http://www.wilhelp.com/bj_faq/bca.JPG
And as if that were not enough there's more!

http://www.wilhelp.com/bj_faq/seven.html

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