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Lutsen Lumberjack

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Nov 22, 2009, 3:24:53 PM11/22/09
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It is the anus of the USA. A bunch of provincial jerkwater
isolationists who think it the best place on earth.

John A. Weeks III

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Nov 22, 2009, 8:59:38 PM11/22/09
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In article
<fadd5706-f0d3-4210...@e23g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
Lutsen Lumberjack <lutsenlu...@gmail.com> wrote:

> It is the anus of the USA. A bunch of provincial jerkwater
> isolationists who think it the best place on earth.

Apparently you don't get out much. Based on that statement,
you certainly could never have been to Newark or Oakland.

-john-

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Jules

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Nov 23, 2009, 8:34:45 AM11/23/09
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On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:24:53 -0800, Lutsen Lumberjack wrote:
> It is the anus of the USA. A bunch of provincial jerkwater
> isolationists who think it the best place on earth.

The best places are usually that way because of the people around you. If
the only people around you are the voices in your own head, then wherever
you are will seem bad.


Bert Hyman

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Nov 23, 2009, 9:01:16 AM11/23/09
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In news:john-7582AE.1...@news-3.octanews.net "John A. Weeks
III" <jo...@johnweeks.com> wrote:

> In article
><fadd5706-f0d3-4210...@e23g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
> Lutsen Lumberjack <lutsenlu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>

>> It is ...


>
> Apparently you don't get out much.

The fact that you make a serious response to an obvious trolling attempt
might suggest the same of you.

Doesn't MT-NewsWatcher have a killfile or filter mechanism?

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Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN be...@iphouse.com

Thomas T. Veldhouse

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Nov 23, 2009, 9:10:33 AM11/23/09
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In mn.general John A. Weeks III <jo...@johnweeks.com> wrote:
> In article
> <fadd5706-f0d3-4210...@e23g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
> Lutsen Lumberjack <lutsenlu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> It is the anus of the USA. A bunch of provincial jerkwater
>> isolationists who think it the best place on earth.
>
> Apparently you don't get out much. Based on that statement,
> you certainly could never have been to Newark or Oakland.
>
> -john-
>

Or Washington D.C. ... and I am not talking about the violence and the crime
on the streets, am talking about the criminals in congress and the
administration.

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Thomas T. Veldhouse

Religion is a crutch, but that's okay... humanity is a cripple.

Mike O'Brien

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Nov 23, 2009, 9:31:09 AM11/23/09
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"Bert Hyman" <be...@iphouse.com> wrote

> The fact that you make a serious response to an obvious trolling attempt
> might suggest the same of you.

> Doesn't MT-NewsWatcher have a killfile or filter mechanism?

cheap entertainment and helps us feel superior...


levi

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Nov 23, 2009, 2:25:59 PM11/23/09
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On Nov 23, 7:34 am, Jules <jules.richardsonn...@remove.this.gmail.com>
wrote:

I'm reminded of the story about a new fellow
coming into town and asking "We're thinking
about moving here. What kind of neighbors do
you have here?" The wise answer came back,
"What kind of neighbors did you have back where
you come from? Chances are, those are the same
kind of neighbors that you'll find `round here."

For the Lumberjacks amongst us, what that means
is that the kind of people you encounter reflect
the kind of person that *you* are. In other
words, if you think you neighbors are butt holes,
then, most likely you're a butt hole.

Scott Smith

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Nov 23, 2009, 3:08:29 PM11/23/09
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On 23 Nov 2009 14:01:16 GMT, Bert Hyman <be...@iphouse.com> wrote:

>In news:john-7582AE.1...@news-3.octanews.net "John A. Weeks
>III" <jo...@johnweeks.com> wrote:
>
>> In article
>><fadd5706-f0d3-4210...@e23g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
>> Lutsen Lumberjack <lutsenlu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> It is ...
>>
>> Apparently you don't get out much.
>
>The fact that you make a serious response to an obvious trolling attempt
>might suggest the same of you.


Pot > Kettle > Black


.
.


- Scott Smith: scott...@iphouse.com
MySpace: http://www.myspace.com/choppersmith

Thomas T. Veldhouse

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Nov 23, 2009, 5:18:07 PM11/23/09
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In mn.general levi <le...@visi.com> wrote:
>
> I'm reminded of the story about a new fellow
> coming into town and asking "We're thinking
> about moving here. What kind of neighbors do
> you have here?" The wise answer came back,
> "What kind of neighbors did you have back where
> you come from? Chances are, those are the same
> kind of neighbors that you'll find `round here."
>
> For the Lumberjacks amongst us, what that means
> is that the kind of people you encounter reflect
> the kind of person that *you* are. In other
> words, if you think you neighbors are butt holes,
> then, most likely you're a butt hole.
>

Lumberjack couldn't give a rat's ass about neighbors, morals or parables. HIS
only goal in posting to this group is to get a rise out of people like you.
KILLFILE him NOW and never look back. You will not regret it and you will
make it prettier for the rest of us so that we don't see replies to the fool.

Scott Smith

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Nov 23, 2009, 5:40:22 PM11/23/09
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On 23 Nov 2009 22:18:07 GMT, "Thomas T. Veldhouse" <vel...@gmail.com>
wrote:


And you responding to the responder helps how, exactly?

catpandaddy

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Nov 23, 2009, 8:01:13 PM11/23/09
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"Scott Smith" <scott...@iphouse.com> wrote in message
news:8p3mg51jrebiers4c...@4ax.com...

> On 23 Nov 2009 22:18:07 GMT, "Thomas T. Veldhouse" <vel...@gmail.com>
>>>
>>
>>Lumberjack couldn't give a rat's ass about neighbors, morals or parables.
>>HIS
>>only goal in posting to this group is to get a rise out of people like
>>you.
>>KILLFILE him NOW and never look back. You will not regret it and you will
>>make it prettier for the rest of us so that we don't see replies to the
>>fool.
>
>
> And you responding to the responder helps how, exactly?

You're smarter than this, Agent Smith.

It helps by informing the first responder about what is expected in terms of
good stewardship within the group, and by enlisting the newcomer's
cooperation in preventing responses in future threads.

levi

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Nov 24, 2009, 2:44:45 AM11/24/09
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On Nov 23, 7:01 pm, "catpandaddy" <c...@cat.pan.net> wrote:
> "Scott Smith" <scott.sm...@iphouse.com> wrote in message
>
> news:8p3mg51jrebiers4c...@4ax.com...
>
> > On 23 Nov 2009 22:18:07 GMT, "Thomas T. Veldhouse" <veld...@gmail.com>

>
> >>Lumberjack couldn't give a rat's ass about neighbors, morals or parables.
> >>HIS
> >>only goal in posting to this group is to get a rise out of people like
> >>you.
> >>KILLFILE him NOW and never look back.  You will not regret it and you will
> >>make it prettier for the rest of us so that we don't see replies to the
> >>fool.
>
> > And you responding to the responder helps how, exactly?
>
> You're smarter than this, Agent Smith.
>
> It helps by informing the first responder about what is expected in terms of
> good stewardship within the group, and by enlisting the newcomer's
> cooperation in preventing responses in future threads.

Scott's no newcomer. Neither am I.

(newsgroups trimmed to mn.general)

John A. Weeks III

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Nov 24, 2009, 8:59:41 AM11/24/09
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In article
<abe7ff94-9e82-49bd...@g31g2000vbr.googlegroups.com>,
levi <le...@visi.com> wrote:

I wonder if there has ever been a single case in recorded history
where ignoring a troll had any impact what-so-ever in the troll's
behavior? I guess some of my liberal failings have been exposed
here...I happen to believe that if you treat people decently with
respect, and try to be an includer rather than an excluder, you
have a far greater likelihood of promoting good behavior over
time. That seems to put me out of step with how things operate
in the 2000s.

Bert Hyman

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Nov 24, 2009, 9:21:51 AM11/24/09
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In news:john-47F44B.0...@news-3.octanews.net "John A. Weeks
III" <jo...@johnweeks.com> wrote:

> I wonder if there has ever been a single case in recorded history
> where ignoring a troll had any impact what-so-ever in the troll's
> behavior?

If he's filtered out by everyone who uses a news client with the
facility and is ignored by the rest, his behavior is irrelevant.

Mike O'Brien

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Nov 24, 2009, 10:14:40 AM11/24/09
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"John A. Weeks III" <jo...@johnweeks.com> wrote

> I wonder if there has ever been a single case in recorded history


> where ignoring a troll had any impact what-so-ever in the troll's
> behavior? I guess some of my liberal failings have been exposed
> here...I happen to believe that if you treat people decently with
> respect, and try to be an includer rather than an excluder, you
> have a far greater likelihood of promoting good behavior over
> time. That seems to put me out of step with how things operate
> in the 2000s.

It's pretty subjective. Yeah killfiles work for each individual. There are
some of us that just tolerate the "Lumberjack" for entertainment or it makes
us feel superior. But, even taking all his trolls into account one has to
feel sorry for him on some level.

Regards,

Mike O'Brien

life is full of choices. choices have consequences

Scott Smith

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Nov 24, 2009, 2:26:40 PM11/24/09
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I only feel sorry for him because he is swimming in the shallow
end of the gene pool. But he's probably just pissing in it anyway.

Mike O'Brien

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Nov 24, 2009, 5:55:05 PM11/24/09
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"Scott Smith" <scott...@iphouse.com> wrote

>>It's pretty subjective. Yeah killfiles work for each individual. There
>>are
>>some of us that just tolerate the "Lumberjack" for entertainment or it
>>makes
>>us feel superior. But, even taking all his trolls into account one has to
>>feel sorry for him on some level.

> I only feel sorry for him because he is swimming in the shallow
> end of the gene pool. But he's probably just pissing in it anyway.

well, there is that...

Lutsen Lumberjack

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Nov 25, 2009, 12:46:55 PM11/25/09
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On Nov 24, 7:59 am, "John A. Weeks III" <j...@johnweeks.com> wrote:
>
> I wonder if there has ever been a single case in recorded history
> where ignoring a troll had any impact what-so-ever in the troll's
> behavior?  I guess some of my liberal failings have been exposed
> here...I happen to believe that if you treat people decently with
> respect, and try to be an includer rather than an excluder, you
> have a far greater likelihood of promoting good behavior over
> time.  That seems to put me out of step with how things operate
> in the 2000s.

Would it make sense for me to suddenly go around stating a falsehood:
that Minnesota is an upbeat place?

Lutsen Lumberjack

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Nov 25, 2009, 12:54:06 PM11/25/09
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On Nov 23, 4:18 pm, "Thomas T. Veldhouse" <veld...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Lumberjack couldn't give a rat's ass about neighbors, morals or parables.  HIS
> only goal in posting to this group is to get a rise out of people like you.
> KILLFILE him NOW and never look back.  You will not regret it and you will
> make it prettier for the rest of us so that we don't see replies to the fool.

Granted, I don't find my neighbors worth caring about. But I DO follow
principles of wisdom/morals/parables.

Lutsen Lumberjack

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Nov 25, 2009, 12:55:51 PM11/25/09
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On Nov 24, 9:14 am, "Mike O'Brien" <mikeobri...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> It's pretty subjective. Yeah killfiles work for each individual.  There are
> some of us that just tolerate the "Lumberjack" for entertainment or it makes
> us feel superior. But, even taking all his trolls into account one has to
> feel sorry for him on some level.

Hey, I'm not the one who strings taconite pellets together to make ass
beads to sell wholesale to porn sites!

John A. Weeks III

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Nov 25, 2009, 7:00:14 PM11/25/09
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In article
<817b4b80-d4b7-491e...@r24g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
Lutsen Lumberjack <lutsenlu...@gmail.com> wrote:

No, I wouldn't want you to say anything that you didn't think
was true. However, I find your claims are often excessively
exaggerated, and then excessively repeated. I find that to be
just as bad as telling a falsehood. Perhaps you would find
folks to be more receptive if you engaged in conversation and
discussion rather than spewing forth claims that appear to be
preposterous spam as opposed to any constructive.

And in case you didn't notice, Favre is having an MVP year.

levi

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Nov 28, 2009, 4:52:45 AM11/28/09
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On Nov 25, 11:54 am, Lutsen Lumberjack <lutsenlumberj...@gmail.com>
wrote:

From the Vikings in Iceland comes the
"Elder Edda", writings reflecting the
Norse oral tradition. There we read:

The mind only knows what lies near the heart,
You alone know your spirit;
There is no worse sickness for the wise
than to have lost the joy in your life.

Lutsen Lumberjack

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Nov 30, 2009, 5:12:34 PM11/30/09
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On Nov 25, 6:00 pm, "John A. Weeks III" <j...@johnweeks.com> wrote:
>
> No, I wouldn't want you to say anything that you didn't think
> was true.  However, I find your claims are often excessively
> exaggerated, and then excessively repeated.  I find that to be
> just as bad as telling a falsehood.  Perhaps you would find
> folks to be more receptive if you engaged in conversation and
> discussion rather than spewing forth claims that appear to be
> preposterous spam as opposed to any constructive.

I will consider that idea when I am no longer on sabbatical.

> And in case you didn't notice, Favre is having an MVP year.

He already has his Super Bowl ring so it doesn't matter to him as much
as it does to MN fans.

Lutsen Lumberjack

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Nov 30, 2009, 5:13:36 PM11/30/09
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On Nov 28, 3:52 am, levi <l...@visi.com> wrote:
>
> From the Vikings in Iceland comes the
> "Elder Edda", writings reflecting the
> Norse oral tradition.  There we read:
>
>   The mind only knows what lies near the heart,
>   You alone know your spirit;
>   There is no worse sickness for the wise
>     than to have lost the joy in your life.

Congrats -- you really are onto the psyche of the typical Minnesotan!

levi

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Dec 1, 2009, 11:51:07 AM12/1/09
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On Nov 30, 4:13 pm, Lutsen Lumberjack <lutsenlumberj...@gmail.com>
wrote:

It seems that you have "lost the joy
in your life" -- here's hoping that
you find something anew.

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