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Alex  
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 More options Aug 22 2011, 3:17 pm
From: Alex <broscutama...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 22:17:26 +0300
Local: Mon, Aug 22 2011 3:17 pm
Subject: Unified Magic Lantern - new release
Time for a new stable release :)

Most important changes since July 8, 2011:

* 60D:

- Upgraded ML to 60D firmware 1.1.0.
- To upgrade from 1.0.9 ML, the safest method is to format your cards,
run the Canon firmware upgrade, then copy new ML files and make your
cards bootable.
- Photo mode tweak: turn off main shooting screen with a long
half-shutter press.
- Battery indicator in percentage, on the top bar
- Movie mode remap on C position
- Slit-scan pictures are working now

* 550D:

- Easier to access intermediate ISO steps in movie mode (it's just
like you would change ISO with standard firmware)
- Flash button in Movie mode toggles display profiles (you can
customize it to toggle false color or any other LiveView tool);

* 600D:
- A new series of bugfixes
- Seamless shortcut for enabling/disabling 3x zoom mode (DISP + Zoom In/Out).
- Audio module on 600D is still disabled; the audio chip seems
different than in 5D2/550D/60D/500D (at least the registers have
different addresses). I wasn't able to figure it out yet; having
access to a camera for tests could help.

* All cameras:

- Fixed a few stability issues and bugs regarding intervalometer,
config autosave, bracketing, free space, bottom bar, magic zoom...
- Simplified install method for new users: the install procedure is
now basically "download, unzip, upgrade firmware and reboot".  Check
the install guide for details:
http://magiclantern.wikia.com/wiki/Unified/Install  (translations
available in German, Czech, Spanish, French, Italian, Chinese
Simplified and Japanese)

Existing ML users can still use the old method (with EOSCard and MacBoot).

- New screen layout, with larger fonts and color-coded shooting
settings, inspired from AJ, and white-on-black theme for in-camera
help (press DISP or INFO in LiveView if you don't see it);
- Simplified bitrate control; QScale is only available as a hidden
setting, CBR is much more reliable;
- Ported AF patterns from 400plus (for photo mode only);
- You can use a custom picture style for recording (toggled
automagically); for example, you can record with Cinestyle and preview
with Neutral;
- Live defishing preview in the camera (it turns your fisheye into a
rectilinear ultra-wide lens)
- Ability to display either real or 35mm equivalent lens focal length
(patch from msi);
- Auto exposure algorithm for timelapse (it automates ISO and shutter);
- Some new cropmarks, including a few ones for photo mode.
- Found the true shutter counter, including LiveView actuations and
quick focus attempts. Right now I have 26767 shutter actuations on 60D
and 102003 on 550D.
- Safety stuff: this autoexec.bin will refuse to start on a different
camera camera (or on an incorrect firmware version)
- User guide in wiki format, with pictures:
http://magiclantern.wikia.com/wiki/Unified/UserGuide (you can improve
and/or translate it in your language)
- Complete list of changes here:
https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/changesets
- And, of course, a nice surprise under "Don't click me" :)

Other news: 50D and 1100D ports started, but they are still in very
early stages. Most probably, on 50D will run a stripped-down version
of Magic Lantern only with photo functionality. Testers and developers
are welcome.

Also, the HDMI monitor from SmallHD is on its way to me, hopefully
will arrive these days.

The same ML card is compatible with all these cameras (so there's a
single download link now):
- 550D 1.0.9
- 60D 1.1.0
- 600D 1.0.1

You need to unzip all the files on the card (not just autoexec.bin).
http://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/downloads/magiclantern-2011...

Enjoy!

P.S. If you like Magic Lantern, you can buy me a pizza here :)
http://goo.gl/79JgB


 
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From: "arm.indy" <arm.indi...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 12:25:06 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, Aug 22 2011 3:25 pm
Subject: Re: Unified Magic Lantern - new release
you're doing an amazing work Alex !

Indy

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 More options Aug 22 2011, 3:29 pm
From: Alex <broscutama...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 22:29:18 +0300
Local: Mon, Aug 22 2011 3:29 pm
Subject: Re: [ML] Re: Unified Magic Lantern - new release
Thanks Indy :)

Actually I'm building upon Trammell's, AJ's and your low-level work
(this is called "Standing on the shoulders of giants").


 
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From: unity2k <quantumsp...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 12:42:46 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, Aug 22 2011 3:42 pm
Subject: Re: Unified Magic Lantern - new release
I want to chime in with heaps of praise for everyone's efforts. It
will be a sad day when Canon implements all of these changes or nabs
you guys to work directly for them, denying us the opportunity to
benefit so frequently from what you guys are gifting us with. My
appreciation for you have given me is off the chart.

JW

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From: Morgan Look <morgan.l...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 08:09:43 +1200
Local: Mon, Aug 22 2011 4:09 pm
Subject: Re: [ML] Re: Unified Magic Lantern - new release
Stunning to think it was only about a year ago that I got the 550D, and started lurking on this list.  Hoping that some day I'd see a few of the ML features find their way into my camera.

I read a review the other day that said the Sony NEX3 gained focus peaking through an official firmware upgrade.
Looks like at least one of the manufacturers is starting to take notice.

Good work.

Morgan.

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From: Alex <broscutama...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 23:19:20 +0300
Local: Mon, Aug 22 2011 4:19 pm
Subject: Re: [ML] Re: Unified Magic Lantern - new release
An year ago I was almost ready to get a Pentax K-x :)

Interesting news about focus peaking, seems much more polished than my
implementation.


 
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 More options Aug 22 2011, 4:22 pm
From: "Sztupák Sz. Zsolt" <m...@sztupy.hu>
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 22:22:43 +0200
Local: Mon, Aug 22 2011 4:22 pm
Subject: Re: [ML] Re: Unified Magic Lantern - new release
I don't think that there is any problem with your implementation...
apart from the slight lagging.

  SztupY
2011.08.22. 22:19 keltez ssel, Alex rta:


 
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From: Ivo Silva <ivo.silva.lei...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 21:28:17 +0100
Local: Mon, Aug 22 2011 4:28 pm
Subject: Re: [ML] Unified Magic Lantern - new release

So, is it safe to click where it says not to click? What happens exactly?
No dia 22 de Ago de 2011 20:17, "Alex" <broscutama...@gmail.com> escreveu:

http://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/downloads/magiclantern-2011...

> Enjoy!

> P.S. If you like Magic Lantern, you can buy me a pizza here :)
> http://goo.gl/79JgB

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 More options Aug 22 2011, 4:31 pm
From: Morgan Look <morgan.l...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 08:31:47 +1200
Local: Mon, Aug 22 2011 4:31 pm
Subject: Re: [ML] Unified Magic Lantern - new release
Does the 600D provide many audio functions out of the box? Say to allow for always-on level meters, and volume adjustment shortcuts.
These are the two most important audio features I feel, It's a pain to go into the menu just to even see if your levels are too high.

I haven't installed ML on the 600D yet (it belongs to the gf), but it looks like this might be the release to try.

Morgan.

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 More options Aug 22 2011, 4:41 pm
From: Alex <broscutama...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 23:41:39 +0300
Local: Mon, Aug 22 2011 4:41 pm
Subject: Re: [ML] Unified Magic Lantern - new release
On 600D you can only see the audio meters during recording. ML leaves
all the audio settings untouched.

It's possible that analog gain (i.e. in-camera preamps) are at the
maximum level; in this case, being able to turn them off from ML would
result in better audio (with less noise).
http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/all-things-audio/498727-agc-disable-magic...

But the problem is that audio chip may be different (addresses used in
audio_ic_read/write are not the same as in 5D2, 550D, 60D, 600D and
500D).

Also, the audio stuff is very difficult to debug via Skype, since I
can't just probe various registers myself and listen to the changes.
Scrax and me tried hard to fix this (he sent me test videos), but I'm
afraid I can't do more in this direction without having a 600D in my
hands.


 
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From: Morgan Look <morgan.l...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 08:54:36 +1200
Local: Mon, Aug 22 2011 4:54 pm
Subject: Re: [ML] Unified Magic Lantern - new release
Given the number of volume steps in the Canon menu i just assumed that it was dithering the analogue and digital gain values.

Someone who's pulled their cam apart might be able to tell us what the part number on the audio chip is, assuming they can identify it.
Confirming it's the same, or getting a data sheet if it's different would obviously be a big help.

Morgan.

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 More options Aug 22 2011, 5:17 pm
From: Morgan Look <morgan.l...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 09:17:16 +1200
Local: Mon, Aug 22 2011 5:17 pm
Subject: Re: [ML] Unified Magic Lantern - new release
I'll email these guys to see if they can help us identify the audio IC.
http://www.lifepixel.com/tutorials/infrared-diy-tutorials/canon-t3i

They've clearly taken one apart, so hopefully they'll be able to give us a part number or some higher res photos of the PCB.

Morgan.

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From: Morgan Look <morgan.l...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 09:20:14 +1200
Local: Mon, Aug 22 2011 5:20 pm
Subject: Re: [ML] Unified Magic Lantern - new release

I'll paste this in here too, incase anyone is feeling really brave ;-)

The 5D2, 550D and 60D have an asahi-kasei AK4646 chip which looks something like this.

  PastedGraphic-1.tiff
122K Download

I would anticipate the T3i to have some other AK part, but it's possible they switched to a different manufacturer.  
Looking at the asahi-kasei website it seems they don't always show the full part number on some newer IC's, just the number eg the AK4673 looks like this.

  PastedGraphic-2.tiff
122K Download

M

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From: cristian paradiso <guit...@yahoo.it>
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 23:44:25 +0100 (BST)
Local: Mon, Aug 22 2011 6:44 pm
Subject: Re: [ML] Unified Magic Lantern - new release

Amazing stuff Alex...thanks one more time. Now my only wish as you well know it
is compatibility with smallhd dp6 and clip number shown on screen before
recording :) thanks again for the huge work!

________________________________
Da: Alex <broscutama...@gmail.com>
A: Magic Lantern firmware development <ml-devel@googlegroups.com>
Inviato: Lun 22 agosto 2011, 19:17:26
Oggetto: [ML] Unified Magic Lantern - new release

Time for a new stable release :)

Most important changes since July 8, 2011:

* 60D:

- Upgraded ML to 60D firmware 1.1.0.
- To upgrade from 1.0.9 ML, the safest method is to format your cards,
run the Canon firmware upgrade, then copy new ML files and make your
cards bootable.
- Photo mode tweak: turn off main shooting screen with a long
half-shutter press.
- Battery indicator in percentage, on the top bar
- Movie mode remap on C position
- Slit-scan pictures are working now

* 550D:

- Easier to access intermediate ISO steps in movie mode (it's just
like you would change ISO with standard firmware)
- Flash button in Movie mode toggles display profiles (you can
customize it to toggle false color or any other LiveView tool);

* 600D:
- A new series of bugfixes
- Seamless shortcut for enabling/disabling 3x zoom mode (DISP + Zoom In/Out).
- Audio module on 600D is still disabled; the audio chip seems
different than in 5D2/550D/60D/500D (at least the registers have
different addresses). I wasn't able to figure it out yet; having
access to a camera for tests could help.

* All cameras:

- Fixed a few stability issues and bugs regarding intervalometer,
config autosave, bracketing, free space, bottom bar, magic zoom...
- Simplified install method for new users: the install procedure is
now basically "download, unzip, upgrade firmware and reboot".  Check
the install guide for details:
http://magiclantern.wikia.com/wiki/Unified/Install  (translations
available in German, Czech, Spanish, French, Italian, Chinese
Simplified and Japanese)

Existing ML users can still use the old method (with EOSCard and MacBoot).

- New screen layout, with larger fonts and color-coded shooting
settings, inspired from AJ, and white-on-black theme for in-camera
help (press DISP or INFO in LiveView if you don't see it);
- Simplified bitrate control; QScale is only available as a hidden
setting, CBR is much more reliable;
- Ported AF patterns from 400plus (for photo mode only);
- You can use a custom picture style for recording (toggled
automagically); for example, you can record with Cinestyle and preview
with Neutral;
- Live defishing preview in the camera (it turns your fisheye into a
rectilinear ultra-wide lens)
- Ability to display either real or 35mm equivalent lens focal length
(patch from msi);
- Auto exposure algorithm for timelapse (it automates ISO and shutter);
- Some new cropmarks, including a few ones for photo mode.
- Found the true shutter counter, including LiveView actuations and
quick focus attempts. Right now I have 26767 shutter actuations on 60D
and 102003 on 550D.
- Safety stuff: this autoexec.bin will refuse to start on a different
camera camera (or on an incorrect firmware version)
- User guide in wiki format, with pictures:
http://magiclantern.wikia.com/wiki/Unified/UserGuide (you can improve
and/or translate it in your language)
- Complete list of changes here:
https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/changesets
- And, of course, a nice surprise under "Don't click me" :)

Other news: 50D and 1100D ports started, but they are still in very
early stages. Most probably, on 50D will run a stripped-down version
of Magic Lantern only with photo functionality. Testers and developers
are welcome.

Also, the HDMI monitor from SmallHD is on its way to me, hopefully
will arrive these days.

The same ML card is compatible with all these cameras (so there's a
single download link now):
- 550D 1.0.9
- 60D 1.1.0
- 600D 1.0.1

You need to unzip all the files on the card (not just autoexec.bin).
http://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/downloads/magiclantern-2011...

Enjoy!

P.S. If you like Magic Lantern, you can buy me a pizza here :)
http://goo.gl/79JgB

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From: cristian paradiso <guit...@yahoo.it>
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 23:51:03 +0100 (BST)
Local: Mon, Aug 22 2011 6:51 pm
Subject: Re: [ML] Unified Magic Lantern - new release

Sorry Alex one more thing, some previous release would allow me to see the
cropmarks on playmode to review clips with them...is it stil on? i remember you
had to press Q and a P would appear next to the cropmarks text and that way it
was shown on playmode. has it been removed or what? thanks

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A: ml-devel@googlegroups.com
Inviato: Lun 22 agosto 2011, 20:41:39
Oggetto: Re: [ML] Unified Magic Lantern - new release

On 600D you can only see the audio meters during recording. ML leaves
all the audio settings untouched.

It's possible that analog gain (i.e. in-camera preamps) are at the
maximum level; in this case, being able to turn them off from ML would
result in better audio (with less noise).
http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/all-things-audio/498727-agc-disable-magic...

But the problem is that audio chip may be different (addresses used in
audio_ic_read/write are not the same as in 5D2, 550D, 60D, 600D and
500D).

Also, the audio stuff is very difficult to debug via Skype, since I
can't just probe various registers myself and listen to the changes.
Scrax and me tried hard to fix this (he sent me test videos), but I'm
afraid I can't do more in this direction without having a 600D in my
hands.

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Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 00:01:37 +0100
Local: Mon, Aug 22 2011 7:01 pm
Subject: Re: [ML] Unified Magic Lantern - new release

press Q during playback, but i wish it would stay ON all the time when you
press Q and wouldnt disappear when clip ends.

2011/8/22 cristian paradiso <guit...@yahoo.it>


 
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Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 17:26:31 -0700
Local: Mon, Aug 22 2011 8:26 pm
Subject: Re: [ML] Unified Magic Lantern - new release
Hi Alex,

Nice work!  Would it be possible to change the behavior of the DISP+Zoom
In/Out buttons on the 600D to how it was before though where you could
go from 1x to 3-10x?  It seemed more intuitive.  MagicZoom in 3x mode
works now which is cool, although if you go back to 1x mode afterwards
it is scrambled.

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Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 17:55:15 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, Aug 22 2011 8:55 pm
Subject: Re: Unified Magic Lantern - new release
I never knew about the cropmarks during preview!!! Thats
smart!!! ......Walks to camera..... tries it.... WOW!

I would love to see audio levels in preview!!! Is it possible?!? By
pressing 'Av' :)

And to have more level options for analog gain would be sweet, like
6db.

Awesome
Build!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


 
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Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 18:27:26 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, Aug 22 2011 9:27 pm
Subject: Re: Unified Magic Lantern - new release

> Other news: 50D and 1100D ports started, but they are still in very
> early stages. Most probably, on 50D will run a stripped-down version
> of Magic Lantern only with photo functionality. Testers and developers
> are welcome.

Sweet... ( photo functionality )! That's all I'd really want for my
50D!

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From: Morgan Look <morgan.l...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 15:41:15 +1200
Local: Mon, Aug 22 2011 11:41 pm
Subject: Re: [ML] Re: Unified Magic Lantern - new release
Unfortunately the audio IC simply doesn't allow any analogue gain values other than those which are made available in ML.

I guess if you had a -6dB attenuator on your input that would effectively give you more options at the bottom end.  4, 11, 14, 17, 20, 23, 26.
It would mean you had more noise (from the extra analogue amp gain), and your maximum analogue gain would be lower.  

If you split your mono-Lav signal and have one channel attenuated -6dB you'd have the best of both worlds.

Good luck.

Morgan.

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From: Alex <broscutama...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 08:27:47 +0300
Local: Tues, Aug 23 2011 1:27 am
Subject: Re: [ML] Re: Unified Magic Lantern - new release

> Would it be possible to change the behavior of the DISP+Zoom In/Out buttons on the 600D to how it was before though where you could go from 1x to 3-10x?

Zoom higher than 3x is done with loss of quality, so I don't see any
reason for ML to support it. 3x has the best possible image quality
from 600D, judging after recording buffer size :)


 
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From: Morgan Look <morgan.l...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 19:37:30 +1200
Local: Tues, Aug 23 2011 3:37 am
Subject: Re: [ML] Re: Unified Magic Lantern - new release
I get an error about too many crop marks, this can be fixed in Mac OSX by going in with terminal and deleting the "dot files".
I believe simply browsing to the cropmks folder is enough to generate these files, so it's pretty easy to get them by accident.

Any chance ML could automatically ignore any file starting with a period just to stop this in future?

Morgan.

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 More options Aug 23 2011, 3:44 am
From: Alex <broscutama...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 10:44:26 +0300
Local: Tues, Aug 23 2011 3:44 am
Subject: Re: [ML] Re: Unified Magic Lantern - new release
How do "dot files" appear in ML menu?

ML ignores files starting with a dot (I've applied a patch from Mac
users a while ago), so I thought this was fixed. I tried adding a dot
to some BMP files now, but they show up as CINESC~1.BMP.


 
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 More options Aug 23 2011, 3:52 am
From: Alex <broscutama...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 10:52:28 +0300
Local: Tues, Aug 23 2011 3:52 am
Subject: Re: [ML] Re: Unified Magic Lantern - new release

This works for me for ignoring cropmarks renamed to ".CINESCOP.BMP"
for example (camera only sees short 8.3 filenames, i.e. CINESC~1.BMP).
Now ML also checks for a tilde in the file name.

Probably the previous fix only worked on ExFAT cards, where the camera
sees case-sensitive file names (not sure if 8.3 or not).

So... ancient DOS/Windows limitation affecting Mac users?!

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 More options Aug 23 2011, 4:39 am
From: Morgan Look <morgan.l...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 20:39:52 +1200
Local: Tues, Aug 23 2011 4:39 am
Subject: Re: [ML] Re: Unified Magic Lantern - new release
If I delete a bunch of cropmarks but leave the dot underscore files for the ones that remain (to avoid the too many cropmarks error).
ML shows the file as called _16X9_~1.BMP (note it starts with _ not ._ ) even though in OSX they clearly show as starting with ._ (dot underscore).

mogsbook:cropmks mogs$ ls -la
total 896
drwxrwxrwx@ 1 mogs  staff  32768 23 Aug 20:26 .
drwxrwxrwx  1 mogs  staff  32768 23 Aug 20:30 ..
-rwxrwxrwx  1 mogs  staff   4096 23 Aug 20:30 ._16x9_blk.bmp
-rwxrwxrwx  1 mogs  staff   4096 23 Aug 20:30 ._CineSco2.bmp
-rwxrwxrwx  1 mogs  staff   4096 23 Aug 20:30 ._CrssMtr1.bmp
-rwxrwxrwx  1 mogs  staff   4096 23 Aug 20:30 ._Passport.bmp
-rwxrwxrwx  1 mogs  staff   4096 23 Aug 20:30 ._PhiPhoto.bmp
-rwxrwxrwx  1 mogs  staff   4096 23 Aug 20:30 ._PhiVideo.bmp
-rwxrwxrwx@ 1 mogs  staff   4920 22 Aug 22:00 16x9_blk.bmp
-rwxrwxrwx@ 1 mogs  staff   7420 22 Aug 22:00 CineSco2.bmp
-rwxrwxrwx@ 1 mogs  staff  11712 22 Aug 22:00 CrssMtr1.bmp
-rwxrwxrwx@ 1 mogs  staff  19748 22 Aug 22:00 Passport.bmp
-rwxrwxrwx@ 1 mogs  staff  12036 22 Aug 22:00 PhiPhoto.bmp
-rwxrwxrwx@ 1 mogs  staff  12894 22 Aug 22:00 PhiVideo.bmp

After some messing around it seems the "dot underscore" files are created at the time the files are copied to the card.
I think in technical terms what is happening is that the thumbnails are stored in the resource fork, when they get copied to a Fat32 volume the thumbnails are copied into a dot underscore file.

No amount of browsing/previewing the files once they are on the card seems to create these files, only copying them creates it (so the problem only occurs once if you delete the problem files after install).

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