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From: Alex <broscutama...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 19:37:27 +0200
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Subject: 5D Mark II - Merging AJ and Unified Magic Lantern versions
Hi,

Following the small, but positive feedback from this thread [
http://bit.ly/ml-unified-5D2 ], I'm glad to announce the next
long-term direction of Magic Lantern: merging the AJ 5.x firmware with
the unified one currently running on smaller cameras.

I need your help. As explained in the previous post, a good port (one
suitable for paid jobs) requires me having a camera for testing. On
550D/60D ports, crashes are almost non-existent, audio meters are
calibrated, HDMI monitors are fully usable and so on.

So, if you like this idea, you may help me buy a 5D2 by:

- a small donation (you don't need a PayPal account for this):
http://goo.gl/gvD8Q
- or by spreading the word, since right now there are not many users
familiar with both ML versions

Feature-wise: I'd like to ask the users who have tried both AJ and
Unified ML (especially those using both versions in a regular fashion)
to comment on this. Main question: what's the best of both worlds?
What do you like better in AJ 5.x and what do you like better in
Unified?

Big thanks to all ML community for making it possible!
Alex

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P.S. Here's AJ's opinion:


 
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From: Alex <broscutama...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 10:59:10 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Nov 1 2011 1:59 pm
Subject: Re: 5D Mark II - Merging AJ and Unified Magic Lantern versions
P.S. If you use Twitter, you may spread the word with this link:

http://twitter.com/#!/autoexec_bin/status/131425737105342465

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From: moebius event <moebiusev...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 02:10:07 +1030
Local: Wed, Nov 2 2011 11:40 am
Subject: Re: [ML] Re: 5D Mark II - Merging AJ and Unified Magic Lantern versions
Alex ever since I heard of your project I've been constantly posting
update news and features on my facebook...

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From: Alex <broscutama...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 19:42:50 +0200
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Subject: Re: [ML] Re: 5D Mark II - Merging AJ and Unified Magic Lantern versions
I'm happy to announce that I've already received more than 10% of a
5D2 in less than 24 hours :)
So we can expect to have a 5D2 unified port pretty soon.

You may watch the progress here:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4124919/5D2-Thermometer.jpg

Many thanks for your support!


 
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From: Rich <rmi...@eastwest.org>
Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 21:34:11 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Nov 3 2011 12:34 am
Subject: Re: 5D Mark II - Merging AJ and Unified Magic Lantern versions
Dear Alex,
I went to the PayPal link to contribute, and it comes up for Romania.
Is that what it should do? Just checking before I donate. I am both
excited and thankful that you are moving to unify all of this
information and bringing the 5D2 back into the mainstream of
development. Go for it!
rich

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 More options Nov 3 2011, 2:14 am
From: Alex <broscutama...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 08:14:06 +0200
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Subject: Re: [ML] Re: 5D Mark II - Merging AJ and Unified Magic Lantern versions

Hi Rich,

Yes, the link is correct, that's where I am from. Thanks a lot!


 
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From: Peter Scharff <pe...@pipinq.com>
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 07:47:14 +0000
Local: Thurs, Nov 3 2011 3:47 am
Subject: Re: [ML] Re: 5D Mark II - Merging AJ and Unified Magic Lantern versions

I will be donating even though I have no 5d, its the least I can do for all
the hard work and effort you have put in to producing ML as a whole, I
suggest everybody who can do it, come on guys look at what Alex has given
us he's made our cameras double the value in features..........
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From: mart <decan...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 11:42:54 +0200
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Subject: Re: [ML] Re: 5D Mark II - Merging AJ and Unified Magic Lantern versions

 - a small donation (you don't need a PayPal account for this):
http://goo.gl/gvD8Q

Although, there is an option below: Create a PayPal account or LogIn...

So, if I have no account, should I create one ?

Sorry for that stupid question, but there is a country in Europe (where I
from) which has no access to this system :)


 
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From: James Donnelly <jamesjdonne...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 12:09:03 +0000
Local: Thurs, Nov 3 2011 8:09 am
Subject: Re: [ML] Re: 5D Mark II - Merging AJ and Unified Magic Lantern versions

Ditto, lots of small donations will get Alex over the line, so come on
folks.

I will probably never own a 5DII, but I think it's only fair Alex gets
another nice new camera as a small reward for his monumental dedication and
effort!

We are very lucky to have Alex, so all you 550d/600d owners, here's your
chance to say thanks.

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From: Alex <broscutama...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 22:19:56 +0200
Local: Thurs, Nov 3 2011 4:19 pm
Subject: Re: [ML] Re: 5D Mark II - Merging AJ and Unified Magic Lantern versions

Thanks to everybody, now I almost have a quarter of a 5D2 (after only two
days).

Actually the first person who donated for the 5D2 port was a 550D user.

If you can't use PayPal, you may also get me something from my Amazon
wishlist: http://bit.ly/ml-wishlist-alex  (or you can suggest alternatives).

Thanks again!

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 More options Nov 4 2011, 1:48 pm
From: Alex <broscutama...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2011 19:48:49 +0200
Local: Fri, Nov 4 2011 1:48 pm
Subject: Re: [ML] Re: 5D Mark II - Merging AJ and Unified Magic Lantern versions

After 3 days I have 30% of a 5D2 :)

I will be offline during the weekend, so I won't be able to update the
thermometer. Hope you don't mind.

Thanks again!


 
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 More options Nov 4 2011, 3:31 pm
From: "arm.indy" <arm.indi...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2011 12:31:07 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Nov 4 2011 3:31 pm
Subject: Re: 5D Mark II - Merging AJ and Unified Magic Lantern versions
hi Alex,

Is it possible to vote for an ML port on the new C300 ? ;-)
http://www.dpreview.com/news/1111/11110310canoneoscinema.asp
It is only ten times the price of model id 0x80000218.

maybe Canon already included features from ML...

Indy (happy with his 0x80000270)

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Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2011 12:57:10 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Nov 4 2011 3:57 pm
Subject: Re: 5D Mark II - Merging AJ and Unified Magic Lantern versions
on C300:

- timelapse
"The EOS C300 can also be programmed to record a set number of frames
at defined intervals for amazing time-lapse photography - and a frame-
recording feature is perfect for stop-frame animation."

- focus assist
"The cameras have a Waveform Monitor (WFM) function that shows the
overall brightness of a scene, with RGB Parade Display to view red,
green and blue brightness or Spot Display to isolate the luminance
distribution of a chosen area. The Vectorscope (VS) display shows real-
time hue and saturation levels. For sharp focus, the EOS C300 camera
has two peaking modes and a magnified focus assist function. An Edge
Monitor Focus Assist provides both a waveform representing the overall
degree of focus and a red waveform that represents focus in three
specific areas displayed on the camera's 4" LCD monitor. To maintain
proper highlight exposure, it offers a zebra bar feature as well. It's
all in the camera."

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Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2011 22:01:25 +0000
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Subject: Re: [ML] Re: 5D Mark II - Merging AJ and Unified Magic Lantern versions

It comes with ML built in! And only 20K!  I'll take two!

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Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2011 05:33:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: 5D Mark II - Merging AJ and Unified Magic Lantern versions
so am i right in thinking that as it has a "super 35" sensor, its a
smaller sensor than the 5d Mkii?

 
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Subject: Re: [ML] Re: 5D Mark II - Merging AJ and Unified Magic Lantern versions

Yes,  its closer to APC in the T and D7 cameras.

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so am i  right in thinking that as it has a "super 35" sensor, its a
smaller sensor  than the 5d Mkii?

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Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2011 05:49:29 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: 5D Mark II - Merging AJ and Unified Magic Lantern versions
Just wondering, are you going to port the AJ version to the unified,
or the current unified to 5D2?

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Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2011 15:39:50 +0000
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Subject: Re: [ML] Re: 5D Mark II - Merging AJ and Unified Magic Lantern versions

I read 1.6 crop for T2i and the 35 has a 1.3 crop compared to 5d.

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Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2011 19:37:56 +0000
Local: Sun, Nov 6 2011 2:37 pm
Subject: Re: [ML] Re: 5D Mark II - Merging AJ and Unified Magic Lantern versions

I will add my voice to this.  I love the AJ series and am not interested in
still photo options which will just clutter up the menus unnecessarily.

If we can keep the menu style and functionality of the AJ version wiht
being able to turn off the menus that are not relevant to video, I would
support the project.

If not, then I will be looking for someone to carry on the independent AJ
series.

thanks

Moira

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Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2011 00:18:09 +0200
Local: Sun, Nov 6 2011 5:18 pm
Subject: Re: [ML] Re: 5D Mark II - Merging AJ and Unified Magic Lantern versions
> Just wondering, are you going to port the AJ version to the unified,
> or the current unified to 5D2?

I'm going to port the current unified to 5D2 and add the functionality
which is now only in AJ version.

Regarding user interface, the current unified version was inspired a
lot from AJ. I did not have a chance to use AJ version so far (so I
only know it from what I saw in Moira's videos). After I'll try it, I
may add more elements from AJ (you can tell me your suggestions too).

> I will add my voice to this.  I love the AJ series and am not interested in still photo options which will just clutter up the menus unnecessarily.

Latest updates for smaller cameras only display movie options in movie
mode, and photo options in photo mode.

> If we can keep the menu style and functionality of the AJ version wiht being able to turn off the menus that are not relevant to video, I would support the project.

All AJ functionality will be there (only that magic circles will be
square). Menus will be redesigned, but I want to try the AJ version
first.

> If not, then I will be looking for someone to carry on the independent AJ series.

From the first post I've been asking you what to keep from AJ and what
to keep from the current Unified. I don't understand why you are
saying this.

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Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2011 10:11:32 +0000
Local: Mon, Nov 7 2011 5:11 am
Subject: Re: [ML] Re: 5D Mark II - Merging AJ and Unified Magic Lantern versions

Hello Alex

I am not familiar with the Unified version as I don't have any of those
cameras so I can't say whether I like or dislike it.  I am very used to the
AJ menus having been using them now for most of this year.  Is there a
video anywhere showing the Unified menus like mine of AJ 5.0?

I hope you get your 5D2 soon (yes, I have contributed).

regards

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Date: 07 Nov 2011 10:34 GMT
Subject: Re: [ML] Re: 5D Mark II - Merging AJ and Unified Magic Lantern versions

  Hi, Alex and Moira, I have been first using Trammels builds, in the
very beginning, then the AJ as well since he started, and really the
menus are super nice, but I as well envy all small-canon-owners for the
work Alex did. I could use the photo/bulb/etc. stuff perfectly for
time-lapse shooting, and a true unified build with a future would be
great.. And on the other side, I spent maybe 1 minute a day when filming
with the menus, the other 8 hours are filming...So if any changes in the
menu system are done, fine with me as long as all functions that are
existing now can be found, like zebra and sound and datarate etc. I
think those who are able to shoot a story with a DSLR should be able to
learn a new menu as well.

 Here a short report I did all 5d for my work as journalist/filmmaker
It's in German, but you can see what I do....
http://br-online.de/fernsehen/bayerisches-fernsehen/sendungen/schwabe...

Thanks for reading Mathias von Mutius

"Moira O'Brien LIPF" <mo...@moiraobrien.com> schrieb:
Hello Alex

I am not familiar with the Unified version as I don't have any of those
cameras so I can't say whether I like or dislike it.  I am very used to
the AJ menus having been using them now for most of this year.  Is there
a video anywhere showing the Unified menus like mine of AJ 5.0?

I hope you get your 5D2 soon (yes, I have contributed).  

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On 6 November 2011 22:18, Alex <broscutama...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Just wondering, are you going to port the AJ version to the unified,
> or the current unified to 5D2?

I'm going to port the current unified to 5D2 and add the functionality
which is now only in AJ version.

Regarding user interface, the current unified version was inspired a
lot from AJ. I did not have a chance to use AJ version so far (so I
only know it from what I saw in Moira's videos). After I'll try it, I
may add more elements from AJ (you can tell me your suggestions too).

> I will add my voice to this.  I love the AJ series and am not interested in still photo options which will just clutter up the menus unnecessarily.

Latest updates for smaller cameras only display movie options in movie
mode, and photo options in photo mode.

> If we can keep the menu style and functionality of the AJ version wiht being able to turn off the menus that are not relevant to video, I would support the project.

All AJ functionality will be there (only that magic circles will be
square). Menus will be redesigned, but I want to try the AJ version
first.

> If not, then I will be looking for someone to carry on the independent AJ series.

From the first post I've been asking you what to keep from AJ and what
to keep from the current Unified. I don't understand why you are
saying this.

On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 9:37 PM, Moira O'Brien LIPF

[http://bit.ly/ml-unified-5D2], I'm glad to announce the next
>>> > long-term direction of Magic Lantern: merging the AJ 5.x firmware
with
>>> > the unified one currently running on smaller cameras.

>>> > I need your help. As explained in the previous post, a good port
(one
>>> > suitable for paid jobs) requires me having a camera for testing.
On
>>> > 550D/60D ports, crashes are almost non-existent, audio meters are
>>> > calibrated, HDMI monitors are fully usable and so on.

>>> > So, if you like this idea, you may help me buy a 5D2 by:

>>> > - a small donation (you don't need a PayPal account for

this):http://goo.gl/gvD8Q

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Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2011 13:04:54 +0200
Local: Mon, Nov 7 2011 6:04 am
Subject: Re: [ML] Re: 5D Mark II - Merging AJ and Unified Magic Lantern versions

Hello Moira,

>  Is there a video anywhere showing the Unified menus like mine of AJ 5.0?

Here are some videos showing ML on 600D and 550D:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4G5aEJQDtng
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mUOhxskTXw

Right now there's no video showing the simplified menus, since they
are very recent. I'm attaching a screenshot, just to get the idea.

There's a proposal for using submenus for complex menu items with
different options (for example: the zoom box may have position, size,
magnification (1x/2x), trigger mode and focus confirmation method).
This means it will be possible to navigate the menu and change
settings with the two dials (wheels). On 60D I can already navigate
them very quickly.

> I hope you get your 5D2 soon (yes, I have contributed).

Thanks a lot! Did you use a different e-mail address?

> PS Do have a look at the tweet below

I've noticed Jared's announcement last night. He is very close, I'm
confident he will get the funds in 3 days, according to his latest
graph. Small donations can add up much faster than one may think.

https://twitter.com/#!/goforjared/status/133433895768166400

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From: "Moira O'Brien LIPF" <mo...@moiraobrien.com>
Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2011 17:28:25 +0000
Local: Mon, Nov 7 2011 12:28 pm
Subject: Re: [ML] Re: 5D Mark II - Merging AJ and Unified Magic Lantern versions

Hi Alex

Thanks for the menu screen shot - one difference (I think) is that AJ had a
+ or - to the left of each item to show whether the value was going to
increase or decrease - essential when setting things like sound levels
where you may want to go up or down.  Otherwise, the functionality looks
similar. A compromise between the two would be just fine.

Do you have the ability to switch of menus in which you are not interested?

Yes, PayPal messed up my account some time ago so I had to create an email
just for a new PayPal account - you should have received from
mobgall...@gmail.com.

best regards

Moira

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From: Alex <broscutama...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2011 19:36:38 +0200
Local: Mon, Nov 7 2011 12:36 pm
Subject: Re: [ML] Re: 5D Mark II - Merging AJ and Unified Magic Lantern versions

Hi Moira,

In my version, SET increases values and PLAY decreases them.

Right now it's not possible to customize which menus are displayed and
which not; it was suggested by other users too, and I'll think about it.

I didn't receive anything yet from mobgall...@gmail.com, but probably it
may take a while to process it. Thanks again!

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