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David Veksler  
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 More options Jun 6 2012, 2:04 am
From: "David Veksler" <her...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 14:04:14 +0800
Local: Wed, Jun 6 2012 2:04 am
Subject: .Net framework 4.5/Entity Framework 5 for Mises.org

Now that .Net Framework 4.5 and Entity Framework 5.0 are RC with Go-Live
licenses, I am thinking about upgrading Mises.org

Advantages:

.         EF Query pre-compilation.  Currently some queries are static
variables - this could be removed

.         Other EF Performance improvements:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/data/hh949853.aspx

.         Faster .Net performance:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/hh882452.aspx

.         MVC 4 Features:

o   MVC4 Display Modes - The new Display Modes feature lets an application
select views depending on the browser that's making the request.

o   ASP.NET Web API - Creating HTTP services that can reach a broad range of
clients including browsers and mobile devices.

o   CSS and JS resource combination

Any other features that might be useful?

Also thinking about switching from Telerik MVC to Kendo UI:
http://www.kendoui.com/

See my post for more about Kendo UI:
http://dotmac.rationalmind.net/2012/02/three-jquery-based-frameworks-...
ich-ui/

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Dick Fardos  
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 More options Jul 11 2012, 12:58 am
From: Dick Fardos <dickfar...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 21:58:08 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Jul 11 2012 12:58 am
Subject: Re: .Net framework 4.5/Entity Framework 5 for Mises.org

I find it odd that for a freedom loving website that you guys choose to use
a non opensource platform for delivering the website.   Microsoft embodies
the idea of monopolistic nature of software.
Why not use LAMP.   It's ubiquitous and it's a free platform...and in my
opinion far superior to any Microsoft s/w.


 
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Stephen Gream  
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 More options Jul 11 2012, 1:58 am
From: Stephen Gream <poisonthe...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 15:58:32 +1000
Local: Wed, Jul 11 2012 1:58 am
Subject: Re: [Mises.org Dev] Re: .Net framework 4.5/Entity Framework 5 for Mises.org

This has been debated to death on this list (I know I asked the same thing
when I first joined after the group opened up). Long story short, David
does the bulk of the development, and has found that he's most comfortable
C# (if I recall correctly, yes?). I tend to agree that an open stack would
be better, but at the moment the hosting environment we have is what we
have to use.

Eventually, after I finish my other little project, I'm going to abstract
the Mises DB away some more and try and get it running on a
Linux/Mono/PostgreSQL stack, I can let you know when I'm starting on it if
you want.


 
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David Veksler  
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 More options Jul 11 2012, 1:58 am
From: David Veksler <da...@rationalmind.net>
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 13:58:40 +0800
Local: Wed, Jul 11 2012 1:58 am
Subject: Re: [Mises.org Dev] Re: .Net framework 4.5/Entity Framework 5 for Mises.org

(I should have a stock answer ready for this.)

> Microsoft embodies the idea of monopolistic nature of software.

What does this mean?  All large commercial software is monopolistic - that
is, made by one commercial entity.  Even Linux - see Red Hat.

> I find it odd that for a freedom loving website

What does our choice of software license have to do with our political
philosophy?

> use a non opensource platform

We do use open source platforms.  Mises.org runs on Microsoft MVC, Telerik,
jQuery, and jQuery UI, all of which are open-source. Microsoft.Net itself
is shared-source.

> Why not use LAMP.

Because it sucks.

>  It's ubiquitous

Not among real, large-scale websites.  LAMP + non-hobby projects = fail

>  in my opinion far superior to any Microsoft s/w.

Your opinion is wrong.  PHP sucks.  Even the creator of PHP says it sucks.
 Microsoft has the best development platform.

http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2012/06/the-php-singularity.html
http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2008/05/php-sucks-but-it-doesnt-matt...
http://me.veekun.com/blog/2012/04/09/php-a-fractal-of-bad-design/
https://maurus.net/resources/programming-languages/php/
http://www.bitstorm.org/edwin/en/php/
http://roshanbh.com.np/2007/12/php-a-bad-programming-language-dark-si...
http://juixe.com/techknow/index.php/2010/04/23/php-creator-is-a-terri...

Perls sucks too.  Python doesn't suck, but ASP.Net MVC is still better.

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David Veksler
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Stephen Gream  
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 More options Jul 11 2012, 2:00 am
From: Stephen Gream <poisonthe...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 16:00:09 +1000
Local: Wed, Jul 11 2012 2:00 am
Subject: Re: [Mises.org Dev] Re: .Net framework 4.5/Entity Framework 5 for Mises.org

http://me.veekun.com/blog/2012/04/09/php-a-fractal-of-bad-design/
I like this analysis of why PHP sucks, too.

On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 3:58 PM, David Veksler <da...@rationalmind.net>wrote:


 
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