WHAT IN THE WORLD IS GOING ON HERE?

17 views
Skip to first unread message

John

unread,
Oct 19, 2011, 3:50:24 AM10/19/11
to Mises.org Development
I noticed a thread was missing from the list in the old community...I
looked in the graveyard and the deleted posts...it's not there. So I
did a search for it and found a link for it...Get a load of this...

http://mises.org/Community/forums/t/26453.aspx

I've never seen anything like this before? How did this happen? Does
it illustrate a danger (i.e. possible exploit) on the site??

Here's a URL for a specific post...same thing...

http://mises.org/Community/forums/p/26453/439675.aspx#439675

David Veksler

unread,
Oct 19, 2011, 4:12:24 AM10/19/11
to mise...@googlegroups.com
This is not a security hole per se but a clever exploit of the failure of the software to sanitize the HTML:

I deleted 4 other posts with this spam, banned the user, and added a keyword to the spam filter.
441572
441573
441575
441578

<div style="clear: both;"></div>
<div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<div style="clear: both;"></div>
<div style="height:2000px;"><div style="text-align:center;position:fixed;z-index:2147483647;left:0px;top:0px;height:2000px;width:100%;background:white;"><p align="center"><b>Toprol Xl Metoprolol Succinate - Toprol xl and glass</b></p><p align="center" style="font-size:26px;"><a href="http://approvedmedsstore.com/go/jz9w0+xJ9mx+olSgiHd0uNs3rn+jioT9rv7Ik95mz0Ehz1bZzw5eOb7leP0IZXDfbLhy"><font size="16">Click Here To Enter</font></a></p>
<p align="center"><a href="http://approvedmedsstore.com/go/jz9w0+xJ9mx+olSgiHd0uNs3rn+jioT9rv7Ik95mz0Ehz1bZzw5eOb7leP0IZXDfbLhy"><img src="http://approvedmedsstore.com/ib4jbie5wekx.gif" title="Toprol Xl Metoprolol Succinate" alt="Toprol Xl Metoprolol Succinate"/></a></p>
<p align="center" style="font-size:26px;"><a href="http://approvedmedsstore.com/go/jz9w0+xJ9mx+olSgiHd0uNs3rn+jioT9rv7Ik95mz0Ehz1bZzw5eOb7leP0IZXDfbLhy"><font size="16">Click Here To Enter</font></a></p>
<br/><br/><p align="center">Hypertension, Heart Pain, High Blood Pressure, Tachycardia, Angina, Heart Failure</p><br/><br/>.<br/>.<br/>.<br/>.<br/>.<br/>.<br/>.<br/>.<br/>.<br/>.<br/>.<br/>.<br/>.<br/>.<br/>.<br/>.<br/>.<br/>.<br/>.<br/>.<br/>.<br/>.<br/>.<br/>.<br/>.<br/>.<br/>.<br/>.<br/>.<br/>.<br/>.<br/>.<br/>.<br/>.<br/>.<br/>.<br/>.<br/>.<br/>.<br/>.<br/>.<br/>.<br/>.<br/>.<br/>.<br/>.<br/>.<br/>.<br/>.<br/>.<br/>&quot;I set up insulted a corpse-like myself. &quot;I make referred to confused couples as &#39;sell outs&#39;&quot;) and dissentious verbatim expressions toward whites (e. The graduation is based on a investigation made up of self reported statements from dark students enrolled in a historically dark Toprol Xl Metoprolol Succinate: college in the South. &quot; ....

Stephen Gream

unread,
Oct 19, 2011, 4:18:22 AM10/19/11
to mise...@googlegroups.com
XSS. Looks like he put CSS into his forum post that either created a
new div and styled it so it covers the entire screen and brings it to
the front. Look at your forum post form and maybe add a filter to
strip out style attributes. He inserted the following div:

<div style="text-align:center;position:fixed;z-index:2147483647;left:0px;top:0px;height:2000px;width:100%;background:white;">

John

unread,
Oct 19, 2011, 4:53:11 AM10/19/11
to Mises.org Development
Should have known. Wheylous called out that hole over a month ago...

http://mises.org/Community/forums/t/25968.aspx?PageIndex=2

So anyways, what happened to the thread with the spam? Can we get it
back?



On Oct 19, 1:12 am, "David Veksler" <her...@gmail.com> wrote:
> This is not a security hole per se but a clever exploit of the failure of the software to sanitize the HTML:
>
> I deleted 4 other posts with this spam, banned the user, and added a keyword to the spam filter.
> 441572
> 441573
> 441575
> 441578
>
> <div style="clear: both;"></div>
> <div>
> </div>
> </div>
> </div>
> <div style="clear: both;"></div>
> <div style="height:2000px;"><div style="text-align:center;position:fixed;z-index:2147483647;left:0px;top:0px;height:2000px;width:100%;background:white;"><p align="center"><b>Toprol Xl Metoprolol Succinate - Toprol xl and glass</b></p><p align="center" style="font-size:26px;"><a href="http://approvedmedsstore.com/go/jz9w0+xJ9mx+olSgiHd0uNs3rn+jioT9rv7Ik..."><font size="16">Click Here To Enter</font></a></p>
> <p align="center"><a href="http://approvedmedsstore.com/go/jz9w0+xJ9mx+olSgiHd0uNs3rn+jioT9rv7Ik..."><img src="http://approvedmedsstore.com/ib4jbie5wekx.gif" title="Toprol Xl Metoprolol Succinate" alt="Toprol Xl Metoprolol Succinate"/></a></p>
> <p align="center" style="font-size:26px;"><a href="http://approvedmedsstore.com/go/jz9w0+xJ9mx+olSgiHd0uNs3rn+jioT9rv7Ik..."><font size="16">Click Here To Enter</font></a></p>

David Veksler

unread,
Oct 19, 2011, 5:06:58 AM10/19/11
to mise...@googlegroups.com
I see it here: http://mises.org/Community/forums/197.aspx

But I don't like Paulspam nor do I approve of people wasting money on politics, so I am not going to spend too much time worrying about it.

John

unread,
Oct 19, 2011, 4:43:55 PM10/19/11
to Mises.org Development
Figured it out...the threads you fixed got locked. Could you unlock
this one:

http://mises.org/Community/forums/t/26600.aspx


And this one still has the spam on that last page, page 3...could you
fix that one an unlock it as well?

http://mises.org/Community/forums/t/26619.aspx?PageIndex=3


And for the future, what is it you're doing to remove that spammer's
post? Is it something any mod could do, or does it require backend
access?

Daniel Sanchez

unread,
Oct 19, 2011, 7:56:55 PM10/19/11
to mise...@googlegroups.com
I think he pointed out similar exploits in the new community.

-- Daniel

On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 1:53 AM, John <verba...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Should have known.  Wheylous called out that hole over a month ago...

http://mises.org/Community/forums/t/25968.aspx?PageIndex=2

So anyways, what happened to the thread with the spam?  Can we get it
back?



On Oct 19, 1:12 am, "David Veksler" <her...@gmail.com> wrote:
> This is not a security hole per se but a clever exploit of the failure of the software to sanitize the HTML:
>
> I deleted 4 other posts with this spam, banned the user, and added a keyword to the spam filter.
> 441572
> 441573
> 441575
> 441578
>
> <div style="clear: both;"></div>
> <div>
> </div>
> </div>
> </div>
> <div style="clear: both;"></div>
> <div style="height:2000px;"><div style="text-align:center;position:fixed;z-index:2147483647;left:0px;top:0px;height:2000px;width:100%;background:white;"><p align="center"><b>Toprol Xl Metoprolol Succinate - Toprol xl and glass</b></p><p align="center" style="font-size:26px;"><a href="http://approvedmedsstore.com/go/jz9w0+xJ9mx+olSgiHd0uNs3rn+jioT9rv7Ik..."><font size="16">Click Here To Enter</font></a></p>
> <p align="center"><a href="http://approvedmedsstore.com/go/jz9w0+xJ9mx+olSgiHd0uNs3rn+jioT9rv7Ik..."><img src="http://approvedmedsstore.com/ib4jbie5wekx.gif" title="Toprol Xl Metoprolol Succinate" alt="Toprol Xl Metoprolol Succinate"/></a></p>
> <p align="center" style="font-size:26px;"><a href="http://approvedmedsstore.com/go/jz9w0+xJ9mx+olSgiHd0uNs3rn+jioT9rv7Ik..."><font size="16">Click Here To Enter</font></a></p>
> <br/><br/><p align="center">Hypertension, Heart Pain, High Blood Pressure, Tachycardia, Angina, Heart Failure</p><br/><br/>.<br/>.<br/>.<br/>.<br/>.<br/>.<br/>.<br/>.<br/>.<br/>.<br/>.<br/>.<br/>.<br/>.<br/>.<br/>.<br/>.<br/>.<br/>.<br/>.<br/>.<br/>.<br/>.<br/>.<br/>.<br/>.<br/>.<br/>.<br/>.<br/>.<br/>.<br/>.<br/>.<br/>.<br/>.<br/>.<br/>.<br/>.<br/>.<br/>.<br/>.<br/>.<br/>.<br/>.<br/>.<br/>.<br/>.<br/>.<br/>.<br/>.<br/>"I set up insulted a corpse-like myself. "I make referred to confused couples as 'sell outs'") and dissentious verbatim expressions toward whites (e. The graduation is based on a investigation made up of self reported statements from dark students enrolled in a historically dark Toprol Xl Metoprolol Succinate: college in the South. " ....

Peter Sidor

unread,
Oct 22, 2011, 3:28:45 PM10/22/11
to mise...@googlegroups.com

Peter Sidor

unread,
Oct 22, 2011, 3:34:12 PM10/22/11
to mise...@googlegroups.com

Daniel Sanchez

unread,
Oct 22, 2011, 11:19:25 PM10/22/11
to mise...@googlegroups.com
Killed. I'm deleting the posts too.

-Daniel

Peter Sidor

unread,
Nov 3, 2011, 8:28:30 AM11/3/11
to mise...@googlegroups.com
Please kill this user and all posts that he has produced:

http://mises.org/Community/user/Profile.aspx?UserID=52570


P.

Daniel Sanchez

unread,
Nov 3, 2011, 11:57:24 PM11/3/11
to mise...@googlegroups.com
The posts were deleted, but I don't know why they exist as they do. Anyway, I deleted the user.

-Daniel

David Veksler

unread,
Nov 4, 2011, 12:08:13 AM11/4/11
to mise...@googlegroups.com
FYI, you can run MisesCommunity..[_CleanupSpam] with a userId to ban users.



---
Regards,
David V.

My PGP key: http://rationalmind.net/david/DavidLeoVeksler.txt

Briggs Armstrong

unread,
Nov 4, 2011, 11:45:57 AM11/4/11
to mise...@googlegroups.com
I thought we wanted to avoid actually deleting problem users because it will enable them to easily recreate the exact same account and become a problem again. Isn't that the purpose of banning users; to keep them from doing future harm?

John

unread,
Nov 4, 2011, 3:05:13 PM11/4/11
to Mises.org Development
I don't understand...what's the difference between someone recreating
a deleted account and creating a new account? How would banning one
account prevent someone "from doing future harm"?


On Nov 4, 8:45 am, Briggs Armstrong <briggs.armstr...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> I thought we wanted to avoid actually deleting problem users because it
> will enable them to easily recreate the exact same account and become a
> problem again. Isn't that the purpose of banning users; to keep them from
> doing future harm?
>
> On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 11:08 PM, David Veksler <da...@rationalmind.net>wrote:
>
> > FYI, you can run MisesCommunity..[_CleanupSpam] with a userId to ban users.
>
> > ---
> > Regards,
> > David V.
>
> > My PGP key:http://rationalmind.net/david/DavidLeoVeksler.txt
>
> > On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 11:57 AM, Daniel Sanchez <danberkele...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> >> The posts were deleted, but I don't know why they exist as they do.
> >> Anyway, I deleted the user.
>
> >> -Daniel
>
> >> On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 5:28 AM, Peter Sidor <sidorpe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>> Please kill this user and all posts that he has produced:
>
> >>>http://mises.org/Community/user/Profile.aspx?UserID=52570
>
> >>> P.
>
> >>> On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 5:19 AM, Daniel Sanchez <danberkele...@gmail.com
> >>> > wrote:
>
> >>>> Killed. I'm deleting the posts too.
>
> >>>> -Daniel
>
> >>>> On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 12:34 PM, Peter Sidor <sidorpe...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> >>>>> And please kill the author, too:
> >>>>>http://mises.org/Community/user/Profile.aspx?UserID=52292
>
> >>>>> On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 9:28 PM, Peter Sidor <sidorpe...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> >>>>>> Another one:http://mises.org/Community/forums/t/26648.aspx
>
> >>>>>> On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 1:56 AM, Daniel Sanchez <
> >>>>>> danberkele...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>> I think he pointed out similar exploits in the new community.
>
> >>>>>>> -- Daniel
>

Peter Sidor

unread,
Nov 5, 2011, 9:14:11 AM11/5/11
to mise...@googlegroups.com
On a different note, there's a spam comment on this user's page: http://mises.org/Community/members/Marko/default.aspx
from this guy: http://mises.org/Community/members/mackenziehjdg/default.aspx


P.

Daniel Sanchez

unread,
Nov 5, 2011, 4:47:27 PM11/5/11
to mise...@googlegroups.com
Deleted and deleted. Also, the user could have gone to his public profile and deleted it himself.

-Daniel

Peter Sidor

unread,
Nov 5, 2011, 6:09:18 PM11/5/11
to mise...@googlegroups.com
Yeah, but the spammer account would stay behind... good work!
Reply all
Reply to author
Forward
0 new messages