the CHIPCOG dance thread
$Zero
(Cluestick-Haddad's Idiotic & Pathological Consciousness of Guilt).
starring Ray Haddad, mw's nominee for the most slimey and desperate
backpedaler on usenet.
On Mar 23, 4:22 pm, Ray Haddad <rhad...@iexpress.net.au> wrote:
> "$Zero" <z...@whooooooosh.com> instead replied:
>
> Have you anything to post, Xero? Nothing so far.
oops. more Haddad lies. who'da thunk it.
"It give me great glee to watch you
all swing from your own ropes."
http://preview.tinyurl.com/2tta6o
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.writing/msg/61d005a9c59c04b2?hl=en
http://preview.tinyurl.com/26jssh
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.writing/msg/99a983450ac0b722?hl=en
http://preview.tinyurl.com/2nd8j3
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.writing/msg/1ba51b1d7a3aebe8?hl=en
yet more posts Ray cannot bare to face lest he spill more of his
disgusting subconscious all over usenet while doing the CHIPCOG dance.
remarkable? nope.
> Dance, my dark little monkeys. Dance for me.
"It give me great glee to watch you
all swing from your own ropes."
bwah!
such is life on the end of Ray Haddad's cluestick.
"If they face reality, so do they."
> And the band played on.
CHIPCOG
"I'm proud that I showed you all for what you are. Live with it."
-$Zero...
===========
On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 01:47:17 +0100, I said, "Pick a card, any card"
and Alan Hope <not.alan.h...@mail.com> instead replied:
>Ray Haddad goes:
>
>>On Wed, 21 Mar 2007 20:09:57 +0100, I said, "Pick a card, any card"
>>and Alan Hope <not.alan.h...@mail.com> instead replied:
>
>>>Good. Lie down and die.
>
>>When you wrote that to P, he took you seriously. No, seriously.
>
>You're despicable.
Oh, dear. After you wish someone else dead, you have absolutely no
room to make such a comment you buffoon.
--
Ray
===========
"Anyone who can read gets it. You buffoons are spinning
like tops at the moment and I'm just loving it.
Spin, my dark little monkeys. Spin for me."
"It's just a letter, Hope-a-dope. The letter 'P' is widely used
for many words and names. Who uses that catch phrase? It's been
used many times before I came along and used it. Only I won't
do the Sylvia thing and dredge up thousands of references."
"That's left to the reader to decide. Do you see who decided it
was meant for a particular individual? I see only you three idiots
doing your presumption dance on the end of my string.
[make that four idiots and counting]
"Dance, my dark little monkeys. Dance for me."
"Just face it, moron. You got caught yet again with your hand
in the jar. Now do the predictable [Ray] thing and deny it."
all quotes above care of Cluestick-Haddad doing the CHIPCOG dance
(Cluestick-Haddad's Idiotic & Pathological Consciousness of Guilt).
"Dance, my dark little monkeys. Dance for me."
...
"You are guilty as charged."
-- Sal Towse on Ray Haddad
Ray Haddad
"$Zero" <ze...@whooooooosh.com> instead replied:
> "It give me great glee to watch you
> all swing from your own ropes."
I love it when you quote me.
Here it is again, Xero: I'm proud that I showed you all for what you
are. Live with it.
--
Ray
$Zero
> On 23 Mar 2007 19:20:40 -0700, I said, "Pick a card, any card" and
> "$Zero" <z...@whooooooosh.com> instead replied:
>
> > "It give me great glee to watch you
> > all swing from your own ropes."
>
> I love it when you quote me.
"Yep. That's Hope-a-dope and Boob Pastupido both looking for some
personal information that they can later use as a weapon here."
"Nice try, boys. Just move along. Neither of you are qualified to
judge me no matter what I answered."
> Here it is again, Xero: I'm proud that I showed you all
> for what you are. Live with it.
[Alan Hope makes a witty reply and
Ray Haddad despicably and cowardly
turns it into pure degenerate ugliness]
">Good. Lie down and die.
When you wrote that to P,
he took you seriously.
No, seriously."
-- Ray Haddad
"Those are your words. Remember that.
I don't have to answer for your words.
Remember that."
-- Ray Haddad
[during yet another CHIPCOG session]
">Good. Lie down and die.
When you wrote that to P,
he took you seriously.
No, seriously."
-- Ray Haddad
"Anyone who can read gets it. You buffoons are spinning
like tops at the moment and I'm just loving it.
Spin, my dark little monkeys. Spin for me."
"It's just a letter, Hope-a-dope. The letter 'P' is widely used
for many words and names. Who uses that catch phrase? It's been
used many times before I came along and used it. Only I won't
do the Sylvia thing and dredge up thousands of references."
"That's left to the reader to decide. Do you see who decided it
was meant for a particular individual? I see only you three idiots
doing your presumption dance on the end of my string.
[make that four idiots and counting]
"Dance, my dark little monkeys. Dance for me."
"Just face it, moron. You got caught yet again with your hand
in the jar. Now do the predictable [Ray] thing and deny it."
all quotes above care of Cluestick-Haddad doing the CHIPCOG dance
(Cluestick-Haddad's Idiotic & Pathological Consciousness of Guilt).
-$Zero...
"Those are your words. Remember that.
I don't have to answer for your words.
Remember that."
-- Ray Haddad
[during yet another CHIPCOG session]
"I love it when you quote me."
-- Ray Haddad
[CHIPCOG stupidly begging for
numerous major fucking lessons]
Ray Haddad
"$Zero" <ze...@whooooooosh.com> instead replied:
> [Alan Hope makes a witty reply and
> Ray Haddad despicably and cowardly
> turns it into pure degenerate ugliness]
>
> ">Good. Lie down and die.
I'm proud that I showed you all for what you are. Live with it.
--
Ray
$Zero
> On 24 Mar 2007 02:10:02 -0700, I said, "Pick a card, any card" and
>
> > [Alan Hope makes a witty reply and
> > Ray Haddad despicably and cowardly
> > turns it into pure degenerate ugliness]
> >
> > ">Good. Lie down and die.
> >
> > he took you seriously.
> > No, seriously."
> > -- Ray Haddad
>
we all already knew what we are,
just like you know what you are.
Sylvia -- relatively decent human being
Alan -- relatively decent human being
Sal -- relatively decent human being
moi -- relatively decent human being
Ray -- ugly cowardly degenerate
> Live with it.
oh, we will. just like you will.
Sylvia -- relatively decent human being
Alan -- relatively decent human being
Sal -- relatively decent human being
moi -- relatively decent human being
Ray -- cowardly degenerate
-$Zero...
"Those are your words. Remember that.
I don't have to answer for your words.
Remember that."
-- Ray Haddad
[during yet another CHIPCOG dance]
Ray Haddad
"$Zero" <ze...@whooooooosh.com> instead replied:
>On Mar 24, 5:42?am, Ray Haddad <rhad...@iexpress.net.au> wrote:
>> On 24 Mar 2007 02:10:02 -0700, I said, "Pick a card, any card" and
>> "$Zero" <z...@whooooooosh.com> instead replied:
>>
>> > [Alan Hope makes a witty reply and
>> > Ray Haddad despicably and cowardly
>> > turns it into pure degenerate ugliness]
>> >
>> > ">Good. Lie down and die.
>> >
>> > When you wrote that to P,
>> > he took you seriously.
>> > No, seriously."
>> > -- Ray Haddad
>>
>> I'm proud that I showed you all for what you are.
>
>we all already knew what we are,
>just like you know what you are.
>
>Sylvia -- relatively decent human being
>Alan -- relatively decent human being
>Sal -- relatively decent human being
>moi -- relatively decent human being
All of whom applaud Hope-a-dope when he wished someone dead.
>Ray -- ugly cowardly degenerate
A hero who has never written words that wished anyone dead.
--
Ray
$Zero
(was: the CHIPCOG dance thread)
On Mar 24, 6:00?am, Ray Haddad <rhad...@iexpress.net.au> wrote:
> >Ray -- ugly cowardly degenerate
[Alan Hope posts a witty reply and
Ray Haddad despicably and cowardly
turns it into pure degenerate ugliness]
">Good. Lie down and die.
When you wrote that to P,
he took you seriously.
No, seriously."
-- Ray Haddad
"Who uses that catch phrase?
It's been used many times before
I came along and used it."
-- Ray Haddad
[CHIPCOG stupidly begging for
numerous major fucking lessons]
Who uses that catch phrase? Seriously, no, seriously.
well, here's some "obsessive" analysis for you all:
according to one such study in Google:
"P" posted it 183 times in 9,110 posts = 2 % of the time
[approx. once every 50 posts since 1996]
Ray posted it 18 times in 25,467 posts = 0.0007 % of the time
[approx. once every 1414 posts since 1999]
extrapolating that all out, "P" has posted "No, seriously"
apprximately 2,857 times more frequently than Ray CHIPCOG Haddad, his
totally unoriginal copy-catter.
also, "P" used it four times in the subject line, whereas Ray used it
no times in the subject line.
FYI.
"I'm proud that I showed you all for what you are. Live with it."
-$Zero...
"Anyone who can read gets it. You buffoons are spinning
like tops at the moment and I'm just loving it.
Spin, my dark little monkeys. Spin for me."
"It's just a letter, Hope-a-dope. The letter 'P' is widely used
for many words and names. Who uses that catch phrase? It's been
used many times before I came along and used it. Only I won't
do the Sylvia thing and dredge up thousands of references."
"That's left to the reader to decide. Do you see who decided it
was meant for a particular individual? I see only you three idiots
doing your presumption dance on the end of my string.
[make that four idiots and counting]
"Dance, my dark little monkeys. Dance for me."
"Just face it, moron. You got caught yet again with your hand
in the jar. Now do the predictable [Ray] thing and deny it."
all quotes above care of Cluestick-Haddad doing the CHIPCOG dance
(Cluestick-Haddad's Idiotic & Pathological Consciousness of Guilt).
"Those are your words. Remember that.
I don't have to answer for your words.
Remember that."
-- Ray Haddad
[during yet another CHIPCOG dance]
"I love it when you quote me."
-- Ray Haddad
[CHIPCOG stupidly begging for
numerous major fucking lessons]
"You are guilty as charged."
$Zero
> >Ray -- ugly cowardly degenerate
>
> A hero who has never written words that wished anyone dead.
kinda like OJ, right?
-$Zero...
Alan Hope
>An asshole who made a quip about a dying man.
Correction: a *cowardly* asshole who made a quip etc. Because you
couldn't even admit what was staring everyone in the face, could you?
--
Alan Hope
http://sour-grapes.tumblr.com/
$Zero
> "$Zero" <z...@whooooooosh.com> instead replied:
> > Ray Haddad <rhad...@iexpress.net.au> wrote:
> >> "$Zero" <z...@whooooooosh.com> instead replied:
>
> >> > [Alan Hope makes a witty reply and
> >> > Ray Haddad despicably and cowardly
> >> > turns it into pure degenerate ugliness]
>
> >> > ">Good. Lie down and die.
>
> >> > When you wrote that to P,
> >> > he took you seriously.
> >> > No, seriously."
> >> > -- Ray Haddad
>
> >> I'm proud that I showed you all for what you are.
>
> >we all already knew what we are,
> >just like you know what you are.
>
> >Sylvia -- relatively decent human being
> >Alan -- relatively decent human being
> >Sal -- relatively decent human being
> >moi -- relatively decent human being
>
> All of whom applaud Hope-a-dope when he wished someone dead.
yep. looks like.
but nobody applauded you when you did it.
isn't that a bitch?
gee, i wonder why.
hmmm... it's not very puzzling, is it?
nope.
now careful there, Ray, don't shoot the messenger.
shoot yourself.
again and again and again, k?
> >Ray -- ugly cowardly degenerate
>
> A hero who has never written words that wished anyone dead.
and yet, no applause. none at all. zippo.
on the contrary.
remarkable innit.
whoa.
-$Zero...
"Those are your words. Remember that.
I don't have to answer for your words.
Remember that."
-- Ray Haddad
[during yet another CHIPCOG session]
$Zero
> Ray Haddad goes:
> >>>
> >>> > [Alan Hope makes a witty reply and
> >>> > Ray Haddad despicably and cowardly
> >>> > turns it into pure degenerate ugliness]
> >>> > ">Good. Lie down and die.
> >>> > When you wrote that to P,
> >>> > he took you seriously.
> >>> > No, seriously."
> >>> > -- Ray Haddad
> >>>
> >>> I'm proud that I showed you all for what you are.
> >>
> >>we all already knew what we are,
> >>just like you know what you are.
> >>Sylvia -- relatively decent human being
> >>Alan -- relatively decent human being
> >>Sal -- relatively decent human being
> >>moi -- relatively decent human being
> >
> >All of whom applaud Hope-a-dope when he wished someone dead.
> >
> >>Ray -- ugly cowardly degenerate
> >
> >An asshole who made a quip about a dying man.
well, at least you're finally admitting to that much, Ray.
bravo. confession is good for the soul.
now, keep heading towards the light.
and you just may get there.
> Correction: a *cowardly* asshole who made a quip etc. Because you
> couldn't even admit what was staring everyone in the face, could you?
well, Alan, you have to remember that the delusional liar Ray CHIPCOG
Haddad not only suffers from profound stupidity, slimey dishonesty,
and a severe lack of common decency, he's also a classic example of
foolish pride on steroids.
it's a pretty hopeless combo.
-$Zero...
"Those are your words. Remember that.
I don't have to answer for your words.
Remember that."
-- Ray Haddad
[during yet another CHIPCOG session]
Ray Haddad
"$Zero" <ze...@whooooooosh.com> instead replied:
>On Mar 24, 6:00?am, Ray Haddad <rhad...@iexpress.net.au> wrote:
What are you accusing me of, Xero? You think I killed Nicole?
--
Ray
Ray Haddad
and Alan Hope <not.al...@mail.com> instead replied:
What dying man? Did I mention a name or was that YOU? I believe that
was YOU, not me who did that. Oh, and I never wished anyone dead, as
you did. Honesty has never been your long suit, Hope-a-dope.
--
Ray
Ray Haddad
"$Zero" <ze...@whooooooosh.com> instead replied:
>Who uses that catch phrase? Seriously, no, seriously.
>
>(was: the CHIPCOG dance thread)
>
>On Mar 24, 6:00?am, Ray Haddad <rhad...@iexpress.net.au> wrote:
>
>> >Ray -- ugly cowardly degenerate
>
> [Alan Hope posts a witty reply and
> Ray Haddad despicably and cowardly
> turns it into pure degenerate ugliness]
>
> ">Good. Lie down and die.
>
> When you wrote that to P,
> he took you seriously.
> No, seriously."
> -- Ray Haddad
>
> "Who uses that catch phrase?
> It's been used many times before
> I came along and used it."
> -- Ray Haddad
> [CHIPCOG stupidly begging for
> numerous major fucking lessons]
You can't even believe you are capable of teaching one. LOL
>Who uses that catch phrase? Seriously, no, seriously.
>
>well, here's some "obsessive" analysis for you all:
>
>according to one such study in Google:
>
>"P" posted it 183 times in 9,110 posts = 2 % of the time
Who is P?
>[approx. once every 50 posts since 1996]
>
>Ray posted it 18 times in 25,467 posts = 0.0007 % of the time
>
>[approx. once every 1414 posts since 1999]
Pssst! That's when I moved to Australia and began using this e-mail
address, moron. Don't play Columbo, mate. You really stink at it.
>extrapolating that all out, "P" has posted "No, seriously"
>apprximately 2,857 times more frequently than Ray CHIPCOG Haddad, his
>totally unoriginal copy-catter.
I've been using those words since the mid 1970s, Xero. Seriously.
--
Ray
Pies de Arcilla
> hmmm... it's not very puzzling, is it?
Ray saw what he thought was unacceptable behavior, knew that he could
never get Hope to agree, so he had to do something similar to show how
enraging it is. This is not the best plan, and it was poorly executed,
but I am pretty sure it was a deliberate plan and not just a remark he
happened to make at random because he hates "P".
If Hope's remark is to be taken in context, then Ray's should be too.
Alan Hope
>>kinda like OJ, right?
You probably had a good laugh about her death.
Alan Hope
>Did I mention a name or was that YOU?
Oh, puh-leeeze.
Alan Hope
>$Zero wrote:
>> hmmm... it's not very puzzling, is it?
>Ray saw what he thought was unacceptable behavior, knew that he could
>never get Hope to agree, so he had to do something similar to show how
>enraging it is.
He didn't do anything even remotely similar, imbecile. Have you even
been reading along? It doesn't look like it.
>This is not the best plan, and it was poorly executed,
>but I am pretty sure it was a deliberate plan and not just a remark he
>happened to make at random because he hates "P".
He thought he would be clever and shocking, to make a ridiculous and
wrong-headed point. It's utter foolishness to imagine I "wished
someone dead". She said I was "shooting the messenger" and I said,
good, go lie down and die.
Even you should be able to see the progression there.
>If Hope's remark is to be taken in context, then Ray's should be too.
Ray's remark is very much being taken in context. The context being:
the men to whom he was referring is actually on the point of death.
Whereas Leslie is not, and never was.
Also, Leslie was part of the exchange, and Pastorio is on his
death-bed. There's a small difference there, too.
Though clearly, if you need to have it explained to you, it's not
really worth explaining it to you.
Ray Haddad
and Alan Hope <not.al...@mail.com> instead replied:
>Ray Haddad goes:
>
>>Did I mention a name or was that YOU?
>
>Oh, puh-leeeze.
I am a conjuror but you conjure up your own images from my words.
Sadly, you chose the wrong thing to accuse me of doing when you were
the only one here wishing anyone dead.
--
Ray
Ray Haddad
and Alan Hope <not.al...@mail.com> instead replied:
>wrong-headed
See how easy confession is?
Hope-a-dope, I never wished anyone dead while you clearly did. Stop
trying to wipe your stink on someone else. Won't work.
--
Ray
Alan Hope
>On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 19:26:16 +0100, I said, "Pick a card, any card"
>and Alan Hope <not.al...@mail.com> instead replied:
>>Ray Haddad goes:
>>>Did I mention a name or was that YOU?
>>Oh, puh-leeeze.
>I am a conjuror but you conjure up your own images from my words.
Pathetic.
Pies de Arcilla
> Pies de Arcilla goes:
>
> >$Zero wrote:
> >> hmmm... it's not very puzzling, is it?
> >Ray saw what he thought was unacceptable behavior, knew that he could
> >never get Hope to agree, so he had to do something similar to show how
> >enraging it is.
>
> He didn't do anything even remotely similar, imbecile. Have you even
> been reading along? It doesn't look like it.
I'm sure he agrees: he didn't do anything even remotely similar--and
thus I say: there's the symmetry!
$Zero
> $Zero wrote:
>
> > hmmm... it's not very puzzling, is it?
>
> Ray saw what he thought was unacceptable behavior,
the odds of always-gleefully-dancing-on-the-graves-of-people-boy
seeing what he thinks is unacceptable behavior are astronomical.
> knew that he could never get Hope to agree,
no doubt.
Ray is incapable of getting anyone to agree with him, even the ones
who DO agree with him.
your incredible generosity here in presenting some sort of scenario to
attempt to make OJ look good is to be commended, i suppose.
> so he had to do something similar to show how enraging it is.
he didn't do anything similar.
anyway, if Ray was actually trying to be a "hero" [LOL], he could have
easily replied with:
Despicable.
but he couldn't, because it just wouldn't scan given the context.
that's why he snipped out the context which would have shown that what
actually occured was nothing more than a witty comeback.
>And now you are shooting the messenger, whoever I am.
Good. Lie down and die.
instead, CHIPCOG isolated Alan's words in order to use them to
"amusingly" and cowardly express his petty hatred for yet another one
of his (almost infinite) intellectual betters, "P", etc..
his purpose was not to morally tweak Alan, who had done no wrong, his
purpose was to express his contemptible ugliness.
> This is not the best plan, and it was poorly executed,
yeah, well.
> but I am pretty sure it was a deliberate plan
his ugliness was deliberate, yes. hello?
but to the extent that Ray is capable of formulating a "righteous"
plan, no.
he was not mirroring, he was projecting.
> and not just a remark he happened to make at random because he hates "P".
you seriously underestimate Ray's desperation to avenge himself of a
long history of being shown to be a stupid uninteresting hate-enabling
twit.
> If Hope's remark is to be taken in context, then Ray's should be too.
if you want to get at the truth, you need to take in far more context
than you have.
-$Zero...
"I still dance with glee over [the 100,000+people who were killed].
I love [it]. I revel in [it]. I absolutely and unequivocally
am appreciative of [it]. I do not feel even one iota of regret
for those [100,000+ people who were killed].
[I only wish it were] 190,000 [who were killed instead]."
-- Ray CHIPCOG Haddad
$Zero
> Pies de Arcilla goes:
> >$Zero wrote:
>
> >> hmmm... it's not very puzzling, is it?
>
> >Ray saw what he thought was unacceptable behavior, knew that he could
> >never get Hope to agree, so he had to do something similar to show how
> >enraging it is.
>
> He didn't do anything even remotely similar, imbecile. Have you even
> been reading along? It doesn't look like it.
well, *somebody* has to be the public defender here.
Ray is certainly not capable of defending himself, Alan.
it's only fair that someone try to make a reasonable case for the
cowardly degenerate.
> >This is not the best plan, and it was poorly executed,
> >but I am pretty sure it was a deliberate plan and not just a remark he
> >happened to make at random because he hates "P".
>
> He thought he would be clever and shocking, to make a ridiculous and
> wrong-headed point.
which was?
i think you're wrong about that.
he wasn't trying to make any point.
like, duh.
the only reason he weasily "masked" who "P" was was because what
little conscience he has kicked in uncontrollably.
search engine courtesy.
or do you seriously think he was "taking you to task" for making a
totally harmless witty remark?
> It's utter foolishness to imagine I "wished someone dead".
> She said I was "shooting the messenger" and I said,
> good, go lie down and die.
right.
witty usenet banter.
> Even you should be able to see the progression there.
Pies takes the position that even what OJ says should be taken as
true.
> >If Hope's remark is to be taken in context, then Ray's should be too.
>
> Ray's remark is very much being taken in context. The context being:
> the men to whom he was referring is actually on the point of death.
> Whereas Leslie is not, and never was.
as far as we all know, anyway.
> Also, Leslie was part of the exchange, and Pastorio is on his
> death-bed. There's a small difference there, too.
yeah, why quibble?
> Though clearly, if you need to have it explained to you, it's not
> really worth explaining it to you.
don't jump to conclusions.
unless you think that Pies is Ray?
then you have a good point.
-$Zero...
"I still dance with glee over [the 100,000+ people who were
$Zero
> "$Zero" <z...@whooooooosh.com> instead replied:
> > Ray Haddad <rhad...@iexpress.net.au> wrote:
>
> >> >Ray -- ugly cowardly degenerate
>
> >> A hero who has never written words that wished anyone dead.
>
> >kinda like OJ, right?
>
> What are you accusing me of, Xero? You think I killed Nicole?
well, like yourself regarding "P", OJ has gone on record claiming that
he didn't do it.
so, using your usual desperate backpedaling logic, it must be you.
-$Zero...
"I still dance with glee over [100,000+ people who were killed].
$Zero
> On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 14:04:41 +0100, I said, "Pick a card, any card"
>
>
>
>
>
> >Ray Haddad goes:
>
> >>On 24 Mar 2007 03:55:42 -0700, I said, "Pick a card, any card" and
>
> - Show quoted text -
$Zero
> Alan Hope <not.alan.h...@mail.com> instead replied:
> >Ray Haddad goes:
> >>"$Zero" <z...@whooooooosh.com> instead replied:
> >>> Ray Haddad <rhad...@iexpress.net.au> wrote:
> >>>> "$Zero" <z...@whooooooosh.com> instead replied:
>
> >>>> > [Alan Hope makes a witty reply and
> >>>> > Ray Haddad despicably and cowardly
> >>>> > turns it into pure degenerate ugliness]
>
> >>>> > ">Good. Lie down and die.
>
> >>>> > When you wrote that to P,
> >>>> > he took you seriously.
> >>>> > No, seriously."
> >>>> > -- Ray Haddad
>
> >>>> I'm proud that I showed you all for what you are.
>
> >>>we all already knew what we are,
> >>>just like you know what you are.
>
> >>>Sylvia -- relatively decent human being
> >>>Alan -- relatively decent human being
> >>>Sal -- relatively decent human being
> >>>moi -- relatively decent human being
>
> >>All of whom applaud Hope-a-dope when he wished someone dead.
>
> >>>Ray -- ugly cowardly degenerate
>
> >>An asshole who made a quip about a dying man.
>
> >Correction: a *cowardly* asshole who made a quip etc. Because you
> >couldn't even admit what was staring everyone in the face, could you?
>
> What dying man? Did I mention a name or was that YOU?
yo, Pies. this is where you instruct your client to shut the fuck up.
> I believe that was YOU, not me who did that.
and Sylvia, and Sal, and moi, and Pies, and all the others who haven't
spoken up yet.
> Oh, and I never wished anyone dead, as you did.
"I still dance with glee over [100,000+ people who were killed].
I love [it]. I revel in [it]. I absolutely and unequivocally
am appreciative of [it]. I do not feel even one iota of regret
for those [100,000+ people who were killed].
[I only wish it were] 190,000+ [who were killed instead]."
-- Ray CHIPCOG Haddad
>Honesty has never been your long suit, Hope-a-dope.
yikes.
"I love it when you quote me."
-- Ray Haddad
[CHIPCOG stupidly begging for
numerous major fucking lessons]
-$Zero...
"Who uses that catch phrase?
It's been used many times before
I came along and used it."
-- Ray Haddad
[CHIPCOG stupidly begging for
numerous major fucking lessons]
"Those are your words. Remember that.
I don't have to answer for your words.
Remember that."
-- Ray Haddad
[during yet another CHIPCOG session]
$Zero
> "$Zero" <z...@whooooooosh.com> instead replied:
>
> >Who uses that catch phrase? Seriously, no, seriously.
>
> >(was: the CHIPCOG dance thread)
>
> >On Mar 24, 6:00?am, Ray Haddad <rhad...@iexpress.net.au> wrote:
>
> >> >Ray -- ugly cowardly degenerate
>
> >[Alan Hope posts a witty reply and
> > Ray Haddad despicably and cowardly
> > turns it into pure degenerate ugliness]
>
> > ">Good. Lie down and die.
>
> > When you wrote that to P,
> > he took you seriously.
> > No, seriously."
> > -- Ray Haddad
>
> > "Who uses that catch phrase?
> > It's been used many times before
> > I came along and used it."
> > -- Ray Haddad
> > [CHIPCOG stupidly begging for
> > numerous major fucking lessons]
>
> You can't even believe you are capable of teaching one. LOL
that's a pretty unconvincing LOL you got there, Ray.
> >Who uses that catch phrase? Seriously, no, seriously.
>
> >well, here's some "obsessive" analysis for you all:
>
> >according to one such study in Google:
>
> >"P" posted it 183 times in 9,110 posts = 2 % of the time
>
> Who is P?
he's that chef guy you so bitterly and unjustiably hate whom you are
so gleeful is dying that you made a slimey despicable joke about him
and his unfortunate situation.
> >[approx. once every 50 posts since 1996]
>
> >Ray posted it 18 times in 25,467 posts = 0.0007 % of the time
>
> >[approx. once every 1414 posts since 1999]
>
> Pssst! That's when I moved to Australia and began using this e-mail
> address, moron.
"according to one such study in Google", moron.
the paramaters of which should be mostly obvious by the data
presented.
> Pssst! That's when I moved to Australia and began using this e-mail
> address, moron.
and that helps your pathetically impotent rebuttle case how?
yikes. Ray cannot even see half a step ahead, let alone one.
> Don't play Columbo, mate. You really stink at it.
oh my, the CHIPCOG quote file, she overloads!
> >extrapolating that all out, "P" has posted "No, seriously"
> >apprximately 2,857 times more frequently than Ray CHIPCOG
> >Haddad, his totally unoriginal copy-catter.
>
> I've been using those words since the mid 1970s, Xero. Seriously.
two steps:
1] prove it.
2] show relevance to the main charge.
enjoy.
-$Zero...
"Those are your words. Remember that.
I don't have to answer for your words.
Remember that."
-- Ray Haddad
[during yet another CHIPCOG session]
$Zero
> Alan Hope <not.alan.h...@mail.com> instead replied:
> >Ray Haddad goes:
>
> >>Did I mention a name or was that YOU?
>
> >Oh, puh-leeeze.
>
> I am a conjuror but you conjure up your own images from my words.
your confession here is good for your soul, maybe.
well, it's at least good for the CHIPCOG quote file, anyway.
> Sadly, you chose the wrong thing to accuse me of doing
> when you were the only one here wishing anyone dead.
liar.
note CHIPCOG's use of the word "anyone" above.
but, um, where did Alan wish "someone else" here dead?
and why did you snip the context out of the post he made where he
responded to someone who characterized him as "shooting the
messenger"?
-$Zero...
[cue yet more CHIPCOG quotes]
Ray Haddad
"$Zero" <ze...@whooooooosh.com> instead replied:
>On Mar 24, 11:15?am, Ray Haddad <rhad...@iexpress.net.au> wrote:
>
>> "$Zero" <z...@whooooooosh.com> instead replied:
>> > Ray Haddad <rhad...@iexpress.net.au> wrote:
>>
>> >> >Ray -- ugly cowardly degenerate
>>
>> >> A hero who has never written words that wished anyone dead.
>>
>> >kinda like OJ, right?
>>
>> What are you accusing me of, Xero? You think I killed Nicole?
>
>well, like yourself regarding "P", OJ has gone on record claiming that
>he didn't do it.
>
>so, using your usual desperate backpedaling logic, it must be you.
But even you can see that I never even did what you idiots created
in a fictional accounting. I'm being held to task for YOUR fiction.
I love it!
Now I can point out: I'm proud that I showed you all for what you
are. Live with it.
--
Ray
Ray Haddad
"$Zero" <ze...@whooooooosh.com> instead replied:
>On Mar 24, 11:23=EF=BF=BDam, Ray Haddad <rhad...@iexpress.net.au> wrote:
>
>> Who is P?
>
>he's that chef guy you so bitterly and unjustiably hate whom you are
>so gleeful is dying that you made a slimey despicable joke about him
>and his unfortunate situation.
So that's YOUR interpretation of the letter P. Now go back and read
what I wrote. Go ahead, Xero. Give it a try. This time try reading
for comprehension. Show me where I wished even P to be dead. I dare
you. I double dare you.
--
Ray
$Zero
> "$Zero" <z...@whooooooosh.com> instead replied:
>
> >On Mar 24, 11:23=EF=BF=BDam, Ray Haddad <rhad...@iexpress.net.au> wrote:
>
> >> Who is P?
>
> >he's that [WITTY] chef guy you so bitterly and unjustiably hate whom
> >you are so gleeful is dying that you made a slimey despicable joke
> >about him and his unfortunate situation.
>
> So that's YOUR interpretation of the letter P.
it's everyone's.
> Now go back and read what I wrote.
how many times are you gonna ask people to do something that they
never have to do again, OJ?
> Go ahead, Xero. Give it a try.
[Alan Hope makes a witty reply and
Ray Haddad despicably and cowardly
turns it into pure degenerate ugliness]
">Good. Lie down and die.
When you wrote that to P,
he took you seriously.
No, seriously."
-- Ray Haddad
> This time try reading for comprehension.
i did that the first time.
same conclusion as the tenth.
you're a scumbag. done.
no, seriously.
> Show me where I wished even P to be dead.
announcing a new book out from CHIPCOG publications:
IF I DID IT -- by Ray Haddad
(with a special foreward written by OJ Simpson)
> I dare you. I double dare you.
how BRAVE of you, scumbag.
now it's my turn:
i dare you to be a decent human being and atone before you die.
(but i'm certainly not gonna be placing any bets on it with my
bookie).
-$Zero...
boots
>On Mar 24, 10:34?pm, Ray Haddad <rhad...@iexpress.net.au> wrote:
>
>> "$Zero" <z...@whooooooosh.com> instead replied:
>>
>> >On Mar 24, 11:23=EF=BF=BDam, Ray Haddad <rhad...@iexpress.net.au> wrote:
>>
>> >> Who is P?
>>
>> >he's that [WITTY] chef guy you so bitterly and unjustiably hate whom
>> >you are so gleeful is dying that you made a slimey despicable joke
>> >about him and his unfortunate situation.
>>
>> So that's YOUR interpretation of the letter P.
>
>it's everyone's.
Careful who you speak for, lameoid.
--
Subtlety written subtly can be subtly edited away.
$Zero
> "$Zero" <z...@whooooooosh.com> wrote:
> > Ray Haddad <rhad...@iexpress.net.au> wrote:
> >> "$Zero" <z...@whooooooosh.com> instead replied:
> >> > Ray Haddad <rhad...@iexpress.net.au> wrote:
>
> >> >> Who is P?
>
> >> >he's that [WITTY] chef guy you so bitterly and unjustifiably hate
> >> >whom you are so gleeful is dying that you made a slimey
> >> >despicable joke about him and his unfortunate situation.
>
> >> So that's YOUR interpretation of the letter P.
>
> >it's everyone's.
>
> Careful who you speak for, lameoid.
so we'll put you down for "P" = Pies, then, aye?
unless you prefer "P" = Popeye The Sailor Man, of course.
no, seriously.
-$Zero...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Language
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linguistics
Alan Hope
>But even you can see that I never even did what you idiots created
>in a fictional accounting.
We all know exactly what you did, you scum.
Ray Haddad
and Alan Hope <not.al...@mail.com> instead replied:
>Ray Haddad goes:
>
>>But even you can see that I never even did what you idiots created
>>in a fictional accounting.
>
>We all know exactly what you did, you scum.
Yep. I just watched you and yours create a fictional account of what
I never did while whitewashing what you did.
--
Ray
Alan Hope
>On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 13:13:54 +0200, I said, "Pick a card, any card"
>and Alan Hope <not.al...@mail.com> instead replied:
>>Ray Haddad goes:
>>>But even you can see that I never even did what you idiots created
>>>in a fictional accounting.
>>We all know exactly what you did, you scum.
>Yep.
Damn right.
Sylvia
.
> Alan Hope wrote:
> >wrong-headed
>
> See how easy confession is?
>
> Hope-a-dope, I never wished anyone dead while you clearly did. Stop
> trying to wipe your stink on someone else. Won't work.
<scribble! scribble! scribble!>
"Subject continues to function at:
LEVEL: Schoolyard
Age Range: 8-10 years old."
<considering>
<scribble! scribble! scribble!>
"Except, of course, for the continued desperate use of 'Hope-a-dope' and
other infantile "name insults" which I'd place at:
LEVEL: Pre-school
Age Range: 4 years old."
<settling back into Comfy Chair and minding the
Observation Room monitor again>
--
Sylvia <--- The Supreme Ruler of MW
MW <CHORTLE!>
*****************
Haddad: "Is that what you did? If so, you owe me
an apology for not making that clear."
Miz UV: "I'm sorry that your fuckwittedness
causes so many problems for you here
on USENET, Ray."
Ray Haddad
and Sylvia <Syl...@cliffhangerREMOVE.com> instead replied:
> Ray Haddad <rha...@iexpress.net.au> wrote:
>.
>> Alan Hope wrote:
>> >wrong-headed
>>
>> See how easy confession is?
>>
>> Hope-a-dope, I never wished anyone dead while you clearly did. Stop
>> trying to wipe your stink on someone else. Won't work.
>.
> <scribble! scribble! scribble!>
>
>"Subject continues to function at:
>
> LEVEL: Schoolyard
> Age Range: 8-10 years old."
>
> <considering>
>
> <scribble! scribble! scribble!>
>
>"Except, of course, for the continued desperate use of 'Hope-a-dope' and
>other infantile "name insults" which I'd place at:
>
> LEVEL: Pre-school
> Age Range: 4 years old."
>
> <settling back into Comfy Chair and minding the
> Observation Room monitor again>
Translation: Ray is right so I'll come up with more fiction and
divert attention from being wrong.
That's a typical Sylvia move. Dishonesty fits you but doesn't suit
you.
--
Ray
$Zero
> On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 15:00:55 -0500, I said, "Pick a card, any card"
> and Sylvia <Syl...@cliffhangerREMOVE.com> instead replied:
[...]
> > <settling back into Comfy Chair and minding the
> > Observation Room monitor again>
>
> Translation: Ray is right so I'll come up with more fiction and
> divert attention from being wrong.
announcing a new book out from CHIPCOG publications:
IF I DID IT -- by Ray Haddad
(with a special foreward written by OJ Simpson)
> Translation: Ray is right so I'll come up with more fiction
> and divert attention from being wrong.
"You were the one who wished another human being would die,
[Ray]. Don't try to wiggle out of that one. Deflection
doesn't work when the stink of your own words smell so foul."
"You'd like that to work, [Ray], but you're only getting weaker
with every attempt to deflect attention from your wishing another
human being would die. You did it, [Ray]. You."
"You just made my case for me. Was that what you were going for?
Oh, I see. Make Ray's case for him and pretend it doesn't work."
"Just face it, moron. You got caught yet again with your hand
in the jar. Now do the predictable [Ray] thing and deny it."
> That's a typical Sylvia move. Dishonesty fits you but
> doesn't suit you.
"I know you hate that I never wished anyone dead while you did.
That's the fact here. Too bad you're too pig headed to admit it."
===
"I still dance with glee over [100,000+ people who were killed].
I love [it]. I revel in [it]. I absolutely and unequivocally
am appreciative of [it]. I do not feel even one iota of regret
for those [100,000+ people who were killed].
[I only wish it were] 190,000+ [who were killed instead]."
-- Ray CHIPCOG Haddad
===
> That's a typical Sylvia move. Dishonesty fits you but
> doesn't suit you.
it certainly suits you, though:
"I did no such thing. You're simply making another Hope-a-dope
assumption. No surprise there. You and Sylvia are just two of
a kind. You deserve each other."
"Anyone who can read gets it. You buffoons are spinning like tops
at the moment and I'm just loving it. Spin, my dark little
monkeys.
Spin for me."
-$Zero...
"It's just a letter, Hope-a-dope. The letter 'P' is widely used
for many words and names. Who uses that catch phrase? It's been
used many times before I came along and used it. Only I won't
do the Sylvia thing and dredge up thousands of references."
"It's just a letter, Hope-a-dope.
The letter 'P' is widely used
for many words and names."
"That's left to the reader to decide. Do you see who decided it
was meant for a particular individual? I see only you three idiots
doing your presumption dance on the end of my string.
[make that six idiots and counting, plus one "Popeye The Sailor"]
"Dance, my dark little monkeys. Dance for me."
all quotes above care of Cluestick-Haddad doing the CHIPCOG dance
(Cluestick-Haddad's Idiotic & Pathological Consciousness of Guilt).
Pies de Arcilla
> [I only wish it were] 190,000+ [who were killed instead]."
>
> -- Ray CHIPCOG Haddad
He didn't say that. What is your point in inserting those words?
Ray Haddad
"Pies de Arcilla" <dear...@gmail.com> instead replied:
It diverts the simple-minded (and the petite-minded) from reality.
Xero's only claim to fame, Pies.
--
Ray
$Zero
> On Mar 26, 6:52 pm, "$Zero" <z...@whooooooosh.com> wrote:
>
> > [I only wish it were] 190,000+ [who were killed instead]."
>
> > -- Ray CHIPCOG Haddad
>
> He didn't say that.
yes he did.
that's precisely what he said.
yikes, counselor, i realise that you have an impossible client to
represent here, but that's no reason to indict yourself.
> What is your point in inserting those words?
i was simply accurately paraphrasing the psycho.
-$Zero...
$Zero
> "Pies de Arcilla" <dearci...@gmail.com> instead replied:
> >On Mar 26, 6:52 pm, "$Zero" <z...@whooooooosh.com> wrote:
> >
> >>[I only wish it were] 190,000+ [who were killed instead]."
>
> >> -- Ray CHIPCOG Haddad
>
> >He didn't say that. What is your point in inserting those words?
it's a 100% accurate paraphrase of what Ray said.
now here comes OJ, furiously wagging his psycho tail in appreciation
of Johhnny Cochrane's denial:
> It diverts the simple-minded (and the petite-minded) from reality.
> Xero's only claim to fame, Pies.
interesting that Ray didn't deny that he said that sooner, aye?
yikes.
pathological.
-$Zero...
"I still dance with glee over [100,000+ people who were killed].
I love [it]. I revel in [it]. I absolutely and unequivocally
am appreciative of [it]. I do not feel even one iota of regret
for those [100,000+ people who were killed].
[I only wish it were] 190,000+ [who were killed instead]."
-- Ray CHIPCOG Haddad
Ray Haddad
"$Zero" <ze...@whooooooosh.com> instead replied:
>On Mar 26, 7:17?pm, Ray Haddad <rhad...@iexpress.net.au> wrote:
>
>> "Pies de Arcilla" <dearci...@gmail.com> instead replied:
>> >On Mar 26, 6:52 pm, "$Zero" <z...@whooooooosh.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >>[I only wish it were] 190,000+ [who were killed instead]."
>>
>> >> -- Ray CHIPCOG Haddad
>>
>> >He didn't say that. What is your point in inserting those words?
>
>it's a 100% accurate paraphrase of what Ray said.
A paraphrase by its very nature cannot be 100% accurate, moron.
--
Ray
Ray Haddad
"$Zero" <ze...@whooooooosh.com> instead replied:
>On Mar 26, 7:11?pm, "Pies de Arcilla" <dearci...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Mar 26, 6:52 pm, "$Zero" <z...@whooooooosh.com> wrote:
>>
>> > [I only wish it were] 190,000+ [who were killed instead]."
>>
>> > -- Ray CHIPCOG Haddad
>>
>> He didn't say that.
>
>yes he did.
>
>that's precisely what he said.
Well, no it's not. But then you specialize in analyzing others'
words and turning them into fiction.
>yikes, counselor, i realise that you have an impossible client to
>represent here, but that's no reason to indict yourself.
>
>> What is your point in inserting those words?
>
>i was simply accurately paraphrasing the psycho.
Don't believe a word of this, Pies. Consider the source.
--
Ray
$Zero
> "$Zero" <z...@whooooooosh.com> instead replied:
> > "Pies de Arcilla" <dearci...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> "$Zero" <z...@whooooooosh.com> wrote:
>
> >> > [I only wish it were] 190,000+ [who were killed instead]."
>
> >> > -- Ray CHIPCOG Haddad
>
> >> He didn't say that.
>
> >yes he did.
>
> >that's precisely what he said.
>
> Well, no it's not.
well, yes, it is.
check out your verbatim words for verification.
oh wait, you don't need to do that, you already know that that is
EXACTLY what you said.
> But then you specialize in analyzing others'
> words and turning them into fiction.
no fiction. fact.
i provided a 100% accurate translation and there's not one thing you
can argue otherwise.
and you know it, as usual.
> >yikes, counselor, i realise that you have an impossible client to
> >represent here, but that's no reason to indict yourself.
>
> >> What is your point in inserting those words?
>
> >i was simply accurately paraphrasing the psycho.
>
> Don't believe a word of this, Pies.
gee. how sad.
now Ray has to actually specify what Pies should believe.
> Consider the source.
if he did that with you, you'd lose your lawyer fast, OJ.
best not to focus too much on your long history of pathetic dishonesty
and totally impotent backpedaling, Ray.
-$Zero...
$Zero
> "$Zero" <z...@whooooooosh.com> instead replied:
> > Ray Haddad <rhad...@iexpress.net.au> wrote:
> >> "Pies de Arcilla" <dearci...@gmail.com> instead replied:
> >> > "$Zero" <z...@whooooooosh.com> wrote:
>
> >> >> [I only wish it were] 190,000+ [who were killed instead]."
>
> >> >> -- Ray CHIPCOG Haddad
>
> >> >He didn't say that. What is your point in inserting those words?
>
> >it's a 100% accurate paraphrase of what Ray said.
>
> A paraphrase by its very nature cannot be 100% accurate, moron.
a paraphrase is 100% accurate if it conveys with 100% accuracy what
was said.
and mine did.
now watch this.
i will now ask the dude who has many times claimed that he always
answers questions put to him.
Ray, in context with the full quote, how does my paraphrase *differ*
in any way from what you said?
[checking wristwatch]
-$Zero...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semantics
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linguistics
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Language
Ray Haddad
"$Zero" <ze...@whooooooosh.com> instead replied:
>On Mar 26, 8:48?pm, Ray Haddad <rhad...@iexpress.net.au> wrote:
>
>> "$Zero" <z...@whooooooosh.com> instead replied:
>> > Ray Haddad <rhad...@iexpress.net.au> wrote:
>> >> "Pies de Arcilla" <dearci...@gmail.com> instead replied:
>> >> > "$Zero" <z...@whooooooosh.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> >> [I only wish it were] 190,000+ [who were killed instead]."
>>
>> >> >> -- Ray CHIPCOG Haddad
>>
>> >> >He didn't say that. What is your point in inserting those words?
>>
>> >it's a 100% accurate paraphrase of what Ray said.
>>
>> A paraphrase by its very nature cannot be 100% accurate, moron.
>
>a paraphrase is 100% accurate if it conveys with 100% accuracy what
>was said.
>
>and mine did.
>
>now watch this.
>
>i will now ask the dude who has many times claimed that he always
>answers questions put to him.
>
>Ray, in context with the full quote, how does my paraphrase *differ*
>in any way from what you said?
You haven't the intellect to paraphrase it. It was completely
different.
>[checking wristwatch]
Can you tell time? Do you still watch Sesame Street?
--
Ray
$Zero
> "$Zero" <z...@whooooooosh.com> instead replied:
> >On Mar 26, 8:48?pm, Ray Haddad <rhad...@iexpress.net.au> wrote:
> >> "$Zero" <z...@whooooooosh.com> instead replied:
> >> > Ray Haddad <rhad...@iexpress.net.au> wrote:
> >> >> "Pies de Arcilla" <dearci...@gmail.com> instead replied:
> >> >> > "$Zero" <z...@whooooooosh.com> wrote:
>
> >> >> >> [I only wish it were] 190,000+ [who were killed instead]."
>
> >> >> >> -- Ray CHIPCOG Haddad
>
> >> >> >He didn't say that. What is your point in inserting those words?
>
> >> >it's a 100% accurate paraphrase of what Ray said.
>
> >> A paraphrase by its very nature cannot be 100% accurate, moron.
>
> >a paraphrase is 100% accurate if it conveys with 100% accuracy what
> >was said.
>
> >and mine did.
>
> >now watch this.
>
> >i will now ask the dude who has many times claimed that he always
> >answers questions put to him.
>
> >Ray, in context with the full quote, how does my paraphrase *differ*
> >in any way from what you said?
>
> You haven't the intellect to paraphrase it.
yes i do.
you haven't the intellect to show how it was an inaccurate paraphrase
in any way.
(as is aptly demonstarted by your 100% lack of an answer, as usual).
> It was completely different.
translation: "Ray cannot express how it was different in any way
whatsoever, because it's not."
> >[checking wristwatch]
>
> Can you tell time?
yep. you clocked in as expected with your usual nothing because
you're a stupid scumbag who cannot justify his original quote in any
way whatsoever and you know it.
k, Popeye the Sailor Man?
you disgraced yourself with P, and you did the same with your 100,000
people dead quote.
> Do you still watch Sesame Street?
i'm watching it right now, on Usenet.
(as i channel surf between my and your posts).
-$Zero...
Pies de Arcilla
$Zero wrote:
> i was simply accurately paraphrasing the psycho.
I don't think you were.
[I only wish it were] 190,000+ [who were killed instead]."
is not an accurate paraphrase of:
"I was pretty sure that initial estimates placed it closer to
190,000 dead Iraqi soldiers."
Selur
> it's everyone's.
> -$Zero...
>
> "You are guilty as charged."
> -- Sal Towse on Ray Haddad
Fuck off. Maybe you and your little coffee clache's.
So stuff another pastry into your pie hole do go on being a fool, but
recognize the fact that you own it all.
Selur
$Zero
it certainly *is* a completely accurate paraphrase when taken in
context with the rest of his psycho comment about reveling about the
100,000 dead, dancing with glee, not one iota of regret, etc..
which frankly, i'm rather surprised that you've dishonestly
disregarded that part.
after all, "statistics" don't exist in a vacuum, now do they,
counseler?
-$Zero...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euphemism
$Zero
> "$Zero" <z...@whooooooosh.com> wrote:
>
> > it's everyone's.
>
>-$Zero...
>
> > "You are guilty as charged."
> > -- Sal Towse on Ray Haddad
>
> Fuck off. Maybe you and your little coffee clache's.
chalk up yet another vote for "P" = Popeye the Sailor Man.
> So stuff another pastry into your pie hole do go on being
> a fool, but recognize the fact that you own it all.
yikes.
it's pretty scary the degree to which the ideology of certain
brainwashed twits can trump *everything*, even common human decency.
-$Zero...
"we know P is Porter"
-- Bob Woodward
[actor: Robert Redford; from the film:
"All the President's Men" (1976)]
http://imdb.com/title/tt0074119/
Selur
If Ray did not say that, then Zero is using deceit in order to slander
Ray.
Selur
$Zero
note the brackets.
they indicate something or another, don't they?
Gawd.
how utterly dishonest of you to claim that *i'm* the one who is being
deceptive, FFS.
-$Zero...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euphemism
Selur
> On Mar 27, 8:49?am, "Selur" <sel...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
> > "$Zero" <z...@whooooooosh.com> wrote:
>
> > > it's everyone's.
>
> >-$Zero...
>
> > > ? ? -- Sal Towse on Ray Haddad
>
> > Fuck off. ?Maybe you and your little coffee clache's.
>
> chalk up yet another vote for "P" = Popeye the Sailor Man.
>
> > So stuff another pastry into your pie hole do go on being
> > a fool, but recognize the fact that you own it all.
>
> yikes.
>
> it's pretty scary the degree to which the ideology of certain
> brainwashed twits can trump *everything*, even common human decency.
>
> -$Zero...
>
> "we know P is Porter"
> -- Bob Woodward
> [actor: Robert Redford; from the film:
> "All the President's Men" (1976)]
> http://imdb.com/title/tt0074119/
Please continue expounding upon your grasp of decency, you love for
humanity, your honesty and integrity, Zero.
It's quite a farce.
Selur
$Zero
> "$Zero" <z...@whooooooosh.com> wrote:
> > "Selur" <sel...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> > > "$Zero" <z...@whooooooosh.com> wrote:
>
> > > > it's everyone's.
>
> > >-$Zero...
>
> > > > "You are guilty as charged."
> > > > -- Sal Towse on Ray Haddad
>
> > > Fuck off. Maybe you and your little coffee clache's.
>
> > chalk up yet another vote for "P" = Popeye the Sailor Man.
>
> > > So stuff another pastry into your pie hole do go on being
> > > a fool, but recognize the fact that you own it all.
>
> > yikes.
>
> > it's pretty scary the degree to which the ideology of certain
> > brainwashed twits can trump *everything*, even common
> > human decency.
>
> > -$Zero...
>
> > "we know P is Porter"
> > -- Bob Woodward
> > [actor: Robert Redford; from the film:
> > "All the President's Men" (1976)]
> > http://imdb.com/title/tt0074119/
>
> Please continue expounding upon your grasp of decency,
> you love for humanity, your honesty and integrity, Zero.
>
> It's quite a farce.
how so?
see? that's where it all falls flat for slanderous people of your
ilk.
whereas Ray's inability to grasp common human decency, honesty, and
integrity is quite easily demonstrated, sadly.
it's also sad that you would volunteer to spin for Ray-the-degenerate
after what he posted in regards to P.
but what's worse is trying to turn it around on moi and the others who
aren't cowards, and *are* honest enough to take the unrepentant
degenerate to task.
-$Zero...
"Anyone who can read gets it. You buffoons are spinning
like tops at the moment and I'm just loving it.
Spin, my dark little monkeys. Spin for me."
"That's left to the reader to decide. Do you see who decided it
was meant for a particular individual? I see only you three idiots
doing your presumption dance on the end of my string.
[make that six idiots and counting,
plus two for "Popeye The Sailor"]
Selur
> On Mar 27, 8:58?am, "Selur" <sel...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
> > On Mar 26, 6:11 pm, "Pies de Arcilla" <dearci...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Mar 26, 6:52 pm, "$Zero" <z...@whooooooosh.com> wrote:
>
>
> > > > ? ? -- Ray CHIPCOG Haddad
>
> > > He didn't say that. What is your point in inserting those words?
>
> > If Ray did not say that, then Zero is using deceit in order to slander
> > Ray.
>
> note the brackets.
>
> they indicate something or another, don't they?
>
> Gawd.
>
> how utterly dishonest of you to claim that *i'm* the one who is being
> deceptive, FFS.
>
> -$Zero...
You are so busted. Stop weaseling. Do words have meaning or not? Does
inference have meaning or not?
Guilty as charged.
Selur
$Zero
> "$Zero" <z...@whooooooosh.com> wrote:
> > "Selur" <sel...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> > > "Pies de Arcilla" <dearci...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > "$Zero" <z...@whooooooosh.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > [I only wish it were] 190,000+ [who were killed instead]."
>
> > > > > -- Ray CHIPCOG Haddad
>
> > > > He didn't say that. What is your point in inserting those words?
>
> > > If Ray did not say that, then Zero is using deceit in order to slander
> > > Ray.
>
> > note the brackets.
>
> > they indicate something or another, don't they?
>
> > Gawd.
>
> > how utterly dishonest of you to claim that *i'm* the one who is being
> > deceptive, FFS.
>
> > -$Zero...
>
> You are so busted.
totally desperate and dishonest on your part, yet again.
> Stop weaseling.
how can i stop what i never started doing in the first place, huh?
> Do words have meaning or not?
not to you, apparently.
> Does inference have meaning or not?
inference?
what do you suppose that does for your position?
> Guilty as charged.
yes, Ray definitely is.
Ray Haddad
"$Zero" <ze...@whooooooosh.com> instead replied:
Then it's not a paraphrase, Xero. It's commentary and analysis based
on a fiction created by you. See how easy that is?
Stop using big words you don't understand, Xero. It hurts your brain
cell.
--
Ray
Ray Haddad
"$Zero" <ze...@whooooooosh.com> instead replied:
>but what's worse is trying to turn it around on moi and the others who
>aren't cowards, and *are* honest enough to take the unrepentant
>degenerate to task.
What I find unremittingly amusing is that I never wrote any word of
what you are all so crazy about. I never wished anyone dead named
"P" or any other name. Wishing someone dead is left to the likes of
Hope-a-dope and you others of his gang.
--
Ray
$Zero
> "$Zero" <z...@whooooooosh.com> instead replied:
> > "Pies de Arcilla" <dearci...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> $Zero wrote:
>
> >> > i was simply accurately paraphrasing the psycho.
>
> >> I don't think you were.
>
> >> I only wish it were] 190,000+ [who were killed instead]."
>
> >> is not an accurate paraphrase of:
>
> >> "I was pretty sure that initial estimates placed it closer to
> >> 190,000 dead Iraqi soldiers."
>
> >it certainly *is* a completely accurate paraphrase when taken in
> >context with the rest of his psycho comment about reveling about the
> >100,000 dead, dancing with glee, not one iota of regret, etc..
>
> >which frankly, i'm rather surprised that you've dishonestly
> >disregarded that part.
>
> >after all, "statistics" don't exist in a vacuum, now do they,
> >counseler?
>
> Then it's not a paraphrase, Xero.
and war is peace, and freedom is slavery, etc.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/paraphrase
"1. A restatement of a text or passage in another form
or other words, often to clarify meaning."
etc.
enjoy.
> It's commentary and analysis based on a fiction created by you.
and yet, i haven't seen you describe how my 100% accurate paraphrase
of your psycho comments differs from your verbatim remarks.
gee, i wonder why?
> See how easy that is?
see how hard it is for you to deny that my paraphrase is a 100%
accurate restatement of your psycho comments?
> Stop using big words you don't understand, Xero.
translation: http://tinyurl.com/34f473
> It hurts your brain cell.
speaking of hurting your almost half of a brain cell with minisicule
words and ideas that you cannot possibly understand:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doublethink
-$Zero...
"I am a conjuror but you conjure up
your own images from my words"
-- Ray CHIPCOG Haddad
"Socrates argued that
a statue inferred
the existence of
a sculptor"
"We can infer that
his motive in
publishing the diary
was less than honorable."
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/infer
$Zero
> "$Zero" <z...@whooooooosh.com> instead replied:
>
> >but what's worse is trying to turn it around on moi and the others who
> >aren't cowards, and *are* honest enough to take the unrepentant
> >degenerate to task.
>
> What I find unremittingly amusing is that I never wrote any word of
> what you are all so crazy about. I never wished anyone dead named
> "P" or any other name. Wishing someone dead is left to the likes of
> Hope-a-dope and you others of his gang.
announcing a new book out from CHIPCOG publications:
IF I DID IT -- by Ray Haddad
(with a special foreward written by OJ Simpson)
Pies de Arcilla
> after all, "statistics" don't exist in a vacuum, now do they,
> counseler?
Saying he thought 190,000 were killed is not the same thing as saying
he wished 190,000 were killed.
Incidentally, your use of "psycho" is offensive. I happen to have
schizophrenia, and from my point of view, you are behaving exactly
analogously to Ann Coulter with her 'faggot' comment. We both know Ray
(Edwards) isn't mentally ill (gay), but you (Coulter) find it
convenient to call him psycho (faggot) because that's what comes to
your mind when you're thinking 'despicable subhuman'.
You're no better than the right-wingers you hate.
Ray Haddad
"Pies de Arcilla" <dear...@gmail.com> instead replied:
>You're no better than the right-wingers you hate.
That sums up our friend Xero to the letter. I want this as a sig
file! Dibs!
--
Ray
$Zero
> $Zero wrote:
>
> > after all, "statistics" don't exist in a vacuum, now do they,
> > counseler?
>
> Saying he thought 190,000 were killed is not the same thing
> as saying he wished 190,000 were killed.
Pies.
please.
you cannot possibly get an accurate understanding of what Ray said if
you insist on isolating that small part of his quote.
perhaps it's your schizophrena that allows you to honestly believe
that you can consider things totally out of context with complete
reliability.
and that's not a slam in any way whatsoever.
it's merely a possible explanation for how you could possibly ignore
the clear implications of the rest of what Ray said about "dancing
with GLEE" and "loving it" and "reveling in it" and having "not one
iota of regret", etc., about 100,000 people being killed.
that's simply inhuman.
thus, his subsequent comment regarding his "concern" about the 100,000
number being far too low is clearly a wish that it be higher.
by 90,000 people.
EOFS.
it's why you'll notice that Ray has not been able to make any argument
at all about the 100% accuracy of my paraphrase.
and don't think he hasn't tried to work it out.
but even Ray isn't stupid enough to post the several dozen "angles"
that he's typed up in vain.
> Incidentally, your use of "psycho" is offensive.
my apologies. i didn't mean it to be offensive to anyone.
FWIW, my use of "psycho" was shorthand for "evil psychopath", not the
vast array of various psychological impairments that you seem to think
i was refering to.
> I happen to have schizophrenia, and from my point of view, you are
> behaving exactly analogously to Ann Coulter with her 'faggot' comment.
well, from my point of view, i'm not.
not even close.
> We both know Ray (Edwards) isn't mentally ill (gay),
i really have no idea whatsoever whether or not Edwards is gay, but i
would only call him a faggot if he was a gay basher. that's certainly
not why Ann Coulter did so.
OTOH, i'm pretty sure that Ray _is_ mentally ill to some degree
(though it in no way gets him off the hook, because his particular
mental illness is only a minor mitigating factor of his hateful and
disgusting foolish-pride-filled personality and behavior).
however, the reason i call him a psycho is not because he bashes
psychopaths (on the contrary, he's a cheerleader for them), but
because he _is_ a psycho.
> but you (Coulter) find it convenient to call him psycho (faggot)
> because that's what comes to your mind when you're thinking
> 'despicable subhuman'.
well, personally, i don't consider most psychologically impaired
people to be "despicable subhumans".
far from it. i have compassion for most of them.
the only psychologically impaired people whom i consider "despicable
subhumans" are the terrorists, and the evil self-serving dishonest &
dishonorable war-mongers, and Ray (who happens to be both).
> You're no better than the right-wingers you hate.
yes i am.
and i don't "hate" all right-wingers.
just the dishonest manipulative hate-mongering evil psychos among
them.
many of the right-wingers are reasonably honest and loving people.
-$Zero...
$Zero
> "Pies de Arcilla" <dearci...@gmail.com> instead replied:
>
> >You're no better than the right-wingers you hate.
>
> That sums up our friend Xero to the letter.
OJ wags his tail widely as a self-professed schizophrenic kindly
attempts to makes Ray's case for him.
> I want this as a sig file! Dibs!
conscise "writer boy" wastes yet more bandwidth.
(sevenfold)
-$Zero...
[Burr: "Thank you Bob, sorry you had to read this"]
"It's not Bob. It's an imposter.
Note the e-mail address. Not funny."
-- Ray CHIPCOG Haddad
[March 9th, 2007]
http://preview.tinyurl.com/2u4bj2
Ray Haddad
"$Zero" <ze...@whooooooosh.com> instead replied:
>On Mar 28, 6:53 pm, "Pies de Arcilla" <dearci...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> $Zero wrote:
>>
>> > after all, "statistics" don't exist in a vacuum, now do they,
>> > counseler?
>>
>> Saying he thought 190,000 were killed is not the same thing
>> as saying he wished 190,000 were killed.
>
>Pies.
>
>please.
>
>you cannot possibly get an accurate understanding of what Ray said if
>you insist on isolating that small part of his quote.
No. Of course not. You can't get Xero's point unless you add his
fiction and that from Sylvia, Stan and Hope-a-dope. It's the rule.
--
Ray
$Zero
> "$Zero" <z...@whooooooosh.com> wrote:
> > "Pies de Arcilla" <dearci...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> $Zero wrote:
>
> >> > after all, "statistics" don't exist in a vacuum, now do they,
> >> > counseler?
>
> >> Saying he thought 190,000 were killed is not the same thing
> >> as saying he wished 190,000 were killed.
>
> >Pies.
>
> >please.
>
> >you cannot possibly get an accurate understanding of what Ray said
> >if you insist on isolating that small part of his quote.
>
> No. Of course not. You can't get Xero's point unless you add his
> fiction and that from Sylvia, Stan and Hope-a-dope. It's the rule.
by "fiction", are you refering to my 100% accurate paraphrase of your
psycho comments?
or your original psycho comments?
you know, those original verbatim psycho comments of yours that you
have been 100% unable to show any significant difference in, in
regards to my 100% accurate paraphrase of same.
-$Zero...
"I still dance with glee over [100,000+ people who were killed].
I love [it]. I revel in [it]. I absolutely and unequivocally
am appreciative of [it]. I do not feel even one iota of regret
for those [100,000+ people who were killed].
[I only wish it were] 190,000+ [who were killed instead]."
-- Ray Haddad
(paraphrased with 100% accurarcy)
[CHIPCOG session #15,239]
"Rick is dead. He's gone. Get over it.
Maybe you could ask around and see
who else is dying soon so you can
rev yourself up for more upset later."
-- Ray Haddad
[CHIPCOG session #14,862]
Selur
>
> > "Pies de Arcilla" <dearci...@gmail.com> instead replied:
>
> > >You're no better than the right-wingers you hate.
>
> > That sums up our friend Xero to the letter.
>
> OJ wags his tail widely as a self-professed schizophrenic kindly
> attempts to makes Ray's case for him.
>
>
> -$Zero...
>
You are stating that Pie's assessment has no validity because you have
diagnosed him with diminished capacity to render rational judgement
(when it inconveniences you).
Do you use that on your woman, too?
Of course you try to "Carville" it, benefitting from saying it but
avoiding repercussions of saying it by insulating it all with a bunch
of PC bullshit.
You liberals are really something else. Say what you mean, or shut
up.
Selur
$Zero
> On Mar 28, 10:33 pm, "$Zero" <z...@whooooooosh.com> wrote:
> > > "Pies de Arcilla" <dearci...@gmail.com> instead replied:
>
> > > >You're no better than the right-wingers you hate.
>
> > > That sums up our friend Xero to the letter.
>
> > OJ wags his tail widely as a self-professed schizophrenic kindly
> > attempts to makes Ray's case for him.
>
> > -$Zero...
>
> You are stating that Pie's assessment has no validity because you have
> diagnosed him with diminished capacity to render rational judgement
> (when it inconveniences you).
firstly, Pies is the one who said self-professed being a
schizophrenic, not moi.
secondly, i explained my reasoning to Pies in another post where Pies
was selectively isolating something while totally ignoring the clearly
relevant context of the rest of Ray's statement.
AFAIK, keeping things in context is one of the problems with
schizophrenia, but i supoose i could be wrong.
anyway, considering the context of my comments above, i highly doubt
that Pies would be offended.
so it's kind of a complicated paradox, i suppose.
Pies often show great understanding of things, without al of the usual
baggage that others tend to mix in with their opinions, so i don't
think that Pies is incapable of being rational and logical, i simply
questioned whether this particular instance of context strangeness
might be explained by Pies' schizophrenia -- perhaps Pies is on the
wrong end of a context-impaired episode or something. i have no idea.
however, admittedly, my comment above was an insult to Ray.
i wouldn't dream of denying that.
> Do you use that on your woman, too?
Gawd.
> Of course you try to "Carville" it, benefitting from saying it but
> avoiding repercussions of saying it by insulating it all with a bunch
> of PC bullshit.
make your case for Ray, go ahead.
compare my paraphrase with the verbatim.
see where that gets you.
> You liberals are really something else.
i'm not a liberal, idiot.
> Say what you mean, or shut up.
i always do. duh.
i now amusingly await your "Say-what-you-mean,-or-shut-up" defense of
Ray's psycho comment about his gleeful dance of death with not one
iota of regret, etc..
enjoy.
-$Zero...
"Jayzus... I actually read the thread hoping for a quip
or a display of wit larger than a nit. No such luck.
It's like a Confederacy of Haddads, joined at the navel,
both with very bad breath but with too much of it."
-- Bob Pastorio
boots
>firstly, Pies is the one who said self-professed being a
>schizophrenic, not moi.
Yah, he fucked up in the name of openness and honesty didn't he, he
gave the shitwipes of mw some ammunition to use against him when it's
to their advantage or convenience.
Learn from it Pies, fucksake you're saner than most of these dipwits.
--
Subtlety written subtly can be subtly edited away.
boots
>You liberals are really something else.
I don't think it's liberalness. I think it's just intellectual
cowardice and laziness. Conservatives do the same thing.
> Say what you mean, or shut up.
A-fucking-men.
Selur
>
> i'm not a liberal, idiot.
>
> > Say what you mean, or shut up.
>
> i always do. duh.
>
> i now amusingly await your "Say-what-you-mean,-or-shut-up" defense of
> Ray's psycho comment about his gleeful dance of death with not one
> iota of regret, etc..
>
> enjoy.
>
> -$Zero...
>
> "Jayzus... I actually read the thread hoping for a quip
> or a display of wit larger than a nit. No such luck.
> It's like a Confederacy of Haddads, joined at the navel,
> both with very bad breath but with too much of it."
> -- Bob Pastorio
Another, less self-gratifying, less condescending response could have
been: "Maybe Pies is right..."
Selur
$Zero
> "$Zero" <z...@whooooooosh.com> wrote:
>
> >firstly, Pies is the one who self-professed being a
> >schizophrenic, not moi.
>
> Yah, he fucked up
yikes. why do you consider being honest a fuck-up?
> Yah, he fucked up
> in the name of openness and honesty didn't he, he
> gave the shitwipes of mw some ammunition to use against him
> when it's to their advantage or convenience.
did you read the rest of the post you're quoting?
obviously not.
> Learn from it Pies, fucksake you're saner than most of these dipwits.
i agree.
-$Zero...
[Educating Raymond]
">Ok, Xero, tell me who am I following?
whomever your superiors tell you to follow. duh.
we've all seen the evidence for years and years.
which, BTW, is why that any opinion that you
try to defend falls completely apart whenever
someone asks you a simple question about it.
you're then forced to look stupid. and your
solution to this problem? back-pedaling,
moving the goalposts, ridiculous claims that
you were simply trolling, etc."
-- $Zero...
$Zero
> "Selur" <sel...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
> >You liberals are really something else.
>
> I don't think it's liberalness. I think it's just intellectual
> cowardice and laziness.
ooo lookie.
a couple of Ray's "defenders" think they've found a bone that'll
provide some sort of smokescreen for the letter P.
now all they need is Popeye The Sailor Man and a case of spinach.
> Conservatives do the same thing.
you're doing it right now.
are you a liberal, a conservative, or just an amoral self-righteous
fuckwit?
> > Say what you mean, or shut up.
>
> A-fucking-men.
i think that's what Ray was singing while he did his gleeful dance of
death dance innit.
-$Zero...
[Ray responds to his old quote]
">'Rick is dead. He's gone. Get over it.'
Truth becomes you."
-- Ray Haddad
[CHIPCOG session #28,460]
$Zero
> "$Zero" <z...@whooooooosh.com> wrote:
> > "Selur" <sel...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> > > "$Zero" <z...@whooooooosh.com> wrote:
> > > > > "Pies de Arcilla" <dearci...@gmail.com> instead replied:
>
> > > > > >You're no better than the right-wingers you hate.
>
> > > > > That sums up our friend Xero to the letter.
>
> > > > OJ wags his tail widely as a self-professed schizophrenic kindly
> > > > attempts to makes Ray's case for him.
>
> > > > -$Zero...
>
> > > You are stating that Pie's assessment has no validity because you have
> > > diagnosed him with diminished capacity to render rational judgement
> > > (when it inconveniences you).
>
> > firstly, Pies is the one who self-professed being a
> > schizophrenic, not moi.
>
> > secondly, i explained my reasoning to Pies in another post where Pies
> > was selectively isolating something while totally ignoring the clearly
> > relevant context of the rest of Ray's statement.
>
> > AFAIK, keeping things in context is one of the problems with
> > schizophrenia, but i supoose i could be wrong.
>
> > anyway, considering the context of my comments above, i highly doubt
> > that Pies would be offended.
>
> > so it's kind of a complicated paradox, i suppose.
>
> > Pies often shows great understanding of things, without all of the
> > usual baggage that others tend to mix in with their opinions, so i
> > don't think that Pies is incapable of being rational and logical, i
> > simply questioned whether this particular instance of context
> > strangeness might be explained by Pies' schizophrenia --
> > perhaps Pies is on the wrong end of a context-impaired episode
> > or something. i have no idea.
>
> > however, admittedly, my comment above was an insult to Ray.
>
> > i wouldn't dream of denying that.
>
> > > Do you use that on your woman, too?
>
> > Gawd.
>
> > > Of course you try to "Carville" it, benefitting from saying it but
> > > avoiding repercussions of saying it by insulating it all with a bunch
> > > of PC bullshit.
>
> > make your case for Ray, go ahead.
>
> > compare my paraphrase with the verbatim.
>
> > see where that gets you.
>
> > > You liberals are really something else.
>
> > i'm not a liberal, idiot.
>
> > > Say what you mean, or shut up.
>
> > i always do. duh.
>
> > i now amusingly await your "Say-what-you-mean,-or-shut-up" defense of
> > Ray's psycho comment about his gleeful dance of death with not one
> > iota of regret, etc..
>
> > enjoy.
>
> > -$Zero...
>
> >"Jayzus... I actually read the thread hoping for a quip
> >or a display of wit larger than a nit. No such luck.
> >It's like a Confederacy of Haddads, joined at the navel,
> >both with very bad breath but with too much of it."
> >-- Bob Pastorio
>
> Another, less self-gratifying, less condescending response could have
> been: "Maybe Pies is right..."
but he isn't.
in any case, one thing is certain, you won't be presenting any such
credible case that he *is* right, will you?
of course not.
and neither will Pies.
and neither will boots.
and most assuredly, neither will Ray himself
(the sayer of the quote in quote in question).
and we all know why.
because there is none.
duh.
otherwise, let's see it, huh?
-$Zero...
[Educating Raymond -- January, 2007]
">Ok, Xero, tell me who am I following?
whomever your superiors tell you to follow. duh.
we've all seen the evidence for years and years.
which, BTW, is why that any opinion that you
try to defend falls completely apart whenever
someone asks you a simple question about it.
you're then forced to look stupid. and your
solution to this problem? back-pedaling,
moving the goalposts, ridiculous claims that
you were simply trolling, etc."
-- $Zero... [January, 2007]
http://preview.tinyurl.com/28zj5g
Selur
> On Mar 29, 12:22?pm, boots <n...@no.no> wrote:
>
> > "Selur" <sel...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
> > >You liberals are really something else.
>
> > cowardice and laziness. ?
>
> ooo lookie.
>
> a couple of Ray's "defenders" think they've found a bone that'll
> provide some sort of smokescreen for the letter P.
>
> now all they need is Popeye The Sailor Man and a case of spinach.
-snip-
>
> -$Zero...
>
> [Ray responds to his old quote]
>
> ">'Rick is dead. He's gone. Get over it.'
>
> Truth becomes you."
>
> -- Ray Haddad
> [CHIPCOG session #28,460]
To paraphrase a great man: "There you go again, zero."
Attack the source. Assign false agendas (defending Ray). "Vast right
wing conspiricies..." "mentally deficient, incapable of rational
judgement."
You're only deceiving yourself with this, dude.
Selur
boots
>On Mar 29, 12:22?pm, boots <n...@no.no> wrote:
>
>> "Selur" <sel...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>>
>> >You liberals are really something else.
>>
>> I don't think it's liberalness. think it's just intellectual
>> cowardice and laziness.
>
>ooo lookie.
>
>a couple of Ray's "defenders" think they've found a bone that'll
>provide some sort of smokescreen for the letter P.
You're so clueless here that it's beyond funny. Ray's defender?
LMAO.
>now all they need is Popeye The Sailor Man and a case of spinach.
>
>
>> Conservatives do the same thing.
>
>you're doing it right now.
>
>are you a liberal, a conservative, or just an amoral self-righteous
>fuckwit?
Not really, no.
$Zero
> -snip-
as far as deception goes, that snip says it all, right there.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/2g6fhc
Ray Haddad
"$Zero" <ze...@whooooooosh.com> instead replied:
>and most assuredly, neither will Ray himself
>(the sayer of the quote in quote in question).
Which you seem unable to present without your fictional
paraphrasing. Isn't that telling? Most astute readers believe that
you are lying when you change what I wrote to suit your own argument
while ignoring my lack of guilt.
I do admit to being crafty in leading you with a minimum of words
into the zone where you become a fool. I admit to allowing you to
fall into your own quagmire of duplicity and deceit.
--
Ray
Ray Haddad
and boots <n...@no.no> instead replied:
>"$Zero" <ze...@whooooooosh.com> wrote:
>
>>On Mar 29, 12:22?pm, boots <n...@no.no> wrote:
>>
>>> "Selur" <sel...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>>>
>>> >You liberals are really something else.
>>>
>>> I don't think it's liberalness. think it's just intellectual
>>> cowardice and laziness.
>>
>>ooo lookie.
>>
>>a couple of Ray's "defenders" think they've found a bone that'll
>>provide some sort of smokescreen for the letter P.
>
>You're so clueless here that it's beyond funny. Ray's defender?
>LMAO.
Xero fails to understand that you are not defending me but instead
showing him to be what he is; an idiot. When he loses the plot, he
attempts to steer the discussion to ideology or unicornian logic.
Ask Xero about that. You'll get an idea of what's behind the
curtain.
Now, for the best ever lines: I'm proud that I showed you all for
what you are. Live with it.
--
Ray
$Zero
> "$Zero" <z...@whooooooosh.com> instead replied:
>
> >and most assuredly, neither will Ray himself
> >(the sayer of the quote in quote in question).
>
> Which you seem unable to present without your fictional
> paraphrasing. Isn't that telling?
i've presented it side by side at least a few times already.
you, OTOH, have never, not once, provided a single credible argument
which would change the fact that my paraphrase of your verbatim psycho
dance of death was anything other than a 100% accurate paraphrase.
i believe that you've had at least a couple days to come up with
something, but, alas, nada.
nothing whatsoever.
not a credible paragraph.
not a credible sentence.
not a credible word.
not even a credible letter P.
el zippo.
> Most astute readers believe that
> you are lying when you change what I wrote to suit your
> own argument while ignoring my lack of guilt.
not one of them does. not a one.
sorry, Ray.
"presto!" simply doesn't cut it in the real world.
> I do admit to being crafty in leading you with a minimum of words
> into the zone where you become a fool. I admit to allowing you to
> fall into your own quagmire of duplicity and deceit.
oh my.
medic!
Ray Haddad
"$Zero" <ze...@whooooooosh.com> instead replied:
>On Mar 29, 12:27?pm, Ray Haddad <rhad...@iexpress.net.au> wrote:
I don't have to provide an analysis of your paraphrasing of my
quote. Just provide my quote. Your paraphrase is exactly my point in
all this. YOU made it up. YOU chose fiction over the actual quote.
As this is a confession by you in the purest sense that you were
wrong, I expect you will now go silent on the matter of your own
interpretation being a fictional account of reality.
--
Ray
$Zero
> boots <n...@no.no> instead replied:
> > "$Zero" <z...@whooooooosh.com> wrote:
> >> boots <n...@no.no> wrote:
> >>> "Selur" <sel...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
> >>> >You liberals are really something else.
>
> >>> I don't think it's liberalness. I think it's just intellectual
> >>> cowardice and laziness.
>
> >>ooo lookie.
>
> >>a couple of Ray's "defenders" think they've found a bone that'll
> >>provide some sort of smokescreen for the letter P.
>
> >You're so clueless here that it's beyond funny.
i'm about as clueless as the most clueful thing.
> > Ray's defender? LMAO.
google is your friend, boots.
well, not *your* friend, obviously.
besides, you'll note that i put the word defenders in quotes.
(but not because you and Selur aren't trying).
> Xero fails to understand that you are not defending me but instead
> showing him to be what he is; an idiot.
remarkable optimism on your part, Raymond.
especially given the last several weeks or so.
> When he loses the plot, he
> attempts to steer the discussion to ideology or unicornian logic.
> Ask Xero about that. You'll get an idea of what's behind the
> curtain.
Toto has already ripped your (transparent shower) curtain to shreds,
Raymond.
> Now, for the best ever lines: I'm proud that I showed you all for
> what you are. Live with it.
you do realize that you're on the brink of a nervous breakdown, don't
you?
yikes.
anyway, as you well know, i've already more than adequately explained
my comments reagarding Pies schizophrenia.
if any of you "defenders" have any questions about any of that, go
ahead and quote those posts and points, and ask away -- instead of the
pathetically transparent and desperate bullshit that you're resorting
to here.
IOW:
P does not equal Popeye The Sailor Man, and never will.
HTH
-$Zero...
"Jayzus... I actually read the thread hoping for a quip
or a display of wit larger than a nit. No such luck.
It's like a Confederacy of Haddads, joined at the navel,
both with very bad breath but with too much of it."
-- Bob Pastorio
[Educating Raymond -- January, 2007]
">Ok, Xero, tell me who am I following?
whomever your superiors tell you to follow. duh.
we've all seen the evidence for years and years.
which, BTW, is why that any opinion that you
try to defend falls completely apart whenever
someone asks you a simple question about it.
you're then forced to look stupid. and your
solution to this problem? back-pedaling,
moving the goalposts, ridiculous claims that
you were simply trolling, etc."
-- $Zero... [January, 2007]
http://preview.tinyurl.com/28zj5g
"You keep lyin' when you oughta be truthin'...
You keep losing when you oughta not bet...
You keep samin' when you oughta be a'changin'...
What's right is right but
you ain't been right yet...
These boots are made for walking,
and that's just what they'll do...
One of these days these boots
are gonna walk all over you"
-- Nancy Sinatra
http://preview.tinyurl.com/2xt4w5
Ray Haddad
"$Zero" <ze...@whooooooosh.com> instead replied:
This is quite possibly an MW record for the dumbest ever IKYABWAI.
--
Ray
$Zero
translation: "can't"
bonus alternate translation: "can't"
> Just provide my quote. Your paraphrase is exactly my point in
> all this. YOU made it up. YOU chose fiction over the actual quote.
> As this is a confession by you in the purest sense that you were
> wrong, I expect you will now go silent on the matter of your own
> interpretation being a fictional account of reality.
Ray Haddad
"$Zero" <ze...@whooooooosh.com> instead replied:
>On Mar 29, 12:49=EF=BF=BDpm, Ray Haddad <rhad...@iexpress.net.au> wrote:
>
>> "$Zero" <z...@whooooooosh.com> instead replied:
>> > Ray Haddad <rhad...@iexpress.net.au> wrote:
>> >> "$Zero" <z...@whooooooosh.com> instead replied:
>>
>> >> >and most assuredly, neither will Ray himself
>> >> >(the sayer of the quote in quote in question).
>>
>> >> Which you seem unable to present without your fictional
>> >> paraphrasing. Isn't that telling?
>>
>> >i've presented it side by side at least a few times already.
>>
>> >you, OTOH, have never, not once, provided a single credible argument
>> >which would change the fact that my paraphrase of your verbatim psycho
>> >dance of death was anything other than a 100% accurate paraphrase.
>>
>> >i believe that you've had at least a couple days to come up with
>> >something, but, alas, nada.
>>
>> >nothing whatsoever.
>>
>> >not a credible paragraph.
>>
>> >not a credible sentence.
>>
>> >not a credible word.
>>
>> >not even a credible letter P.
>>
>> >el zippo.
>>
>> >> Most astute readers believe that
>> >> you are lying when you change what I wrote to suit your
>> >> own argument while ignoring my lack of guilt.
>>
>> >not one of them does. =A0not a one.
>>
>> >sorry, Ray.
>>
>> >"presto!" simply doesn't cut it in the real world.
>>
>> >> I do admit to being crafty in leading you with a minimum of words
>> >> into the zone where you become a fool. I admit to allowing you to
>> >> fall into your own quagmire of duplicity and deceit.
>>
>> >oh my.
>>
>> >medic!
>>
>> I don't have to provide an analysis of your paraphrasing of my
>> quote.
>
>translation: "can't"
>
>bonus alternate translation: "can't"
It's your translation, Xero. What part of that don't you understand?
It's not my words you are discussing here but your own. My words
don't require your paraphrasing. They stand on their own, as always.
Now, for the best ever lines: I'm proud that I showed you all for
what you are. Live with it.
--
Ray
boots
>On Mar 29, 12:34?pm, Ray Haddad <rhad...@iexpress.net.au> wrote:
>
>> boots <n...@no.no> instead replied:
>> > "$Zero" <z...@whooooooosh.com> wrote:
>> >> boots <n...@no.no> wrote:
>> >>> "Selur" <sel...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>>
>> >>> >You liberals are really something else.
>>
>> >>> I don't think it's liberalness. I think it's just intellectual
>> >>> cowardice and laziness.
>>
>> >>ooo lookie.
>>
>> >>a couple of Ray's "defenders" think they've found a bone that'll
>> >>provide some sort of smokescreen for the letter P.
>>
>> >You're so clueless here that it's beyond funny.
>
>i'm about as clueless as the most clueful thing.
>
>
>> > Ray's defender? LMAO.
>
>google is your friend, boots.
>
>well, not *your* friend, obviously.
>
>besides, you'll note that i put the word defenders in quotes.
>
>(but not because you and Selur aren't trying).
As I said, you're clueless here (not necessarily everywhere, but
definitely here). Ray is not someone I would defend. Pies perhaps,
but not Ray. I do not respond to Ray's posts. Why? Because he
doesn't say anything worth responding to. If he ever does, perhaps
I'll respond, but I think holding my breath would be silly since blue
is not my color.
Ray isn't here to talk about writing or anything writing related. Ray
is here for one purpose only. He likes to manipulate the less
manipulative kids, it's his way of convincing himself that he has some
worth. LIGAF, he makes his own bed, it's his problem.
Another thing, while I'm on the subject. You all seem to have written
Pastorio off as dead and buried. The post said he has terminal
cancer, well that's not the same thing as dead and gone. There is
such a thing as remission. It happens. Maybe P will send him some
supercharged spinach. In any case I think all of those who have
written Pastorio off as dead and buried before the fact are idjuts.
Selur
> On 29 Mar 2007 11:00:25 -0700, I said, "Pick a card, any card" and
Certainly the most tortured.
Selur
Ray Haddad
and boots <n...@no.no> instead replied:
>Ray isn't here to talk about writing or anything writing related.
Oh, yes I am you nitwit. Read the passage that got all this going
and tell me that it wasn't one of the most brilliantly crafted
replies to Alan Hope ever written. This entire combat zone is
brought to you by my writing of a few words.
But then again, you are free to believe otherwise. Have a nice
afternoon, Bootsie. How is your spring so far? Warming up?
--
Ray
Pies de Arcilla
> the only psychologically impaired people whom i consider "despicable
> subhumans" are the terrorists, and the evil self-serving dishonest &
> dishonorable war-mongers, and Ray (who happens to be both).
I don't think either terrorists or war-mongers should be generally
classified as mentally ill. They tend to be people who are very
effective, maintain large social networks, and are devoted to their
causes. I think there is research that supports this.
It's just that anyone who is hated is called crazy, 'cause it's the
worst thing you can say about someone--instant invalidation.
Pies de Arcilla
> FWIW, my use of "psycho" was shorthand for "evil psychopath", not the
> vast array of various psychological impairments that you seem to think
> i was refering to.
"psycho" means psychotic too. It is in fact what people call someone
who is crazy, and most people don't really distinguish between
psychotic and psychopathic even though the insane are mostly not
violent or sociopathic.
Ray Haddad
"$Zero" <ze...@whooooooosh.com> instead replied:
>the only psychologically impaired people whom i consider "despicable
>subhumans" are the terrorists, and the evil self-serving dishonest &
>dishonorable war-mongers, and Ray (who happens to be both).
I'm a terrorist now? Why? Because I mop the MW floor with you
regularly? Does that really terrorize you?
--
Ray
$Zero
> "$Zero" <z...@whooooooosh.com> instead replied:
>
> > "It give me great glee to watch you
> > all swing from your own ropes."
>
> I love it when you quote me.
[Ray's response to Sal's "guilty as charged" post,
Fri, Mar 23 2007 3:04 am]
"Nonsense. Thousands use that phrase.
I never wished him or anyone dead.
Read what I wrote to Hope-a-dope again, Sal.
The rest of this is in your head.
Trust me.
Read it again."
-- Ray Haddad
[CHIPCOG session #31,237]
http://preview.tinyurl.com/2khun8
> Here it is again, Xero: I'm proud that I showed you all for what you
> are. Live with it.
for various contortions of the word "proud".
-$Zero...
[whoa, check out this cognitive dissonanced confession]
">>I did nothing wrong.
>Lying just makes it worse.
I still did nothing wrong.
Your accusation is meaningless."
-- Ray Haddad
[CHIPCOG session #28,666]
[Ray responds to his old quote]
">'Rick is dead. He's gone. Get over it.'
Truth becomes you."
-- Ray Haddad
[CHIPCOG session #28,460]
http://preview.tinyurl.com/3a8375
[here's a remarkably generous conclusion from Sal:]
"You are guilty as charged."
-- Sal Towse on Ray Haddad
Sylvia
"Pies de Arcilla" <dear...@gmail.com> wrote:
.
> "$Zero" <z...@whooooooosh.com> wrote:
> > the only psychologically impaired people whom i consider "despicable
> > subhumans" are the terrorists, and the evil self-serving dishonest &
> > dishonorable war-mongers, and Ray (who happens to be both).
.
> I don't think either terrorists or war-mongers should be generally
> classified as mentally ill. They tend to be people who are very
> effective, maintain large social networks, and are devoted to their
> causes.
>
> I think there is research that supports this.
"Fact checking is for sissies, that's my motto."
- Leslie Harder/Holly/Gladys as "Lark" in MW
> It's just that anyone who is hated is called crazy, 'cause it's the
> worst thing you can say about someone--instant invalidation.
And, you, Pies, are defending... this:
"It seems to me that you (Crow) have never allowed for an opposing
opinion; only those that agree with you. Anything else comes from
what you refer to as insane people. Chilling." -- Ray Haddad in MW
"Oddly, in this case he [Zen] sees us in a sort of agreement. That has
him going crazy (mad)." -- Ray Haddad in MW
"Leave it to those crazy Brits." -- Ray Haddad in MW
"What's the point of being fascinatingly crazy if you don't enrich
the world with it? Press on, lunatic. Press on."
-- Ray Haddad in MW (to Mr. $Zero)
"You are insane. You are completely and utterly insane."
-- Ray Haddad in MW (to Mr. Josh Hill)
"Are you carrying on two sides of a conversation now, Zero?
You're even crazier than I first thought. Sadly, without help
you can't overcome it, either." -- Ray Haddad in MW
"Your last remaining supporter, as insane as you are, enters the
fray, Sylvia." -- Ray Haddad in MW
"You're insane." -- Ray Haddad in MW (to Ashby)
"You must be insane!" -- Ray Haddad in MW (to towse)
"Translation: My name is . . . , wait, don't tell me. It's . . . Oh,
darn. Hang on. Here it is. It's ZERO! My name is Zero and I am
insane." -- Ray Haddad in MW
--
Sylvia <--- The Supreme Ruler of MW
"Calling me names only diminishes your credibility, Paula."
-- Ray Haddad in MW
Pies de Arcilla
Sylvia wrote:
> In article <1175212726....@n59g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>,
> "Pies de Arcilla" <dear...@gmail.com> wrote:
> .
> > "$Zero" <z...@whooooooosh.com> wrote:
> > > the only psychologically impaired people whom i consider "despicable
> > > subhumans" are the terrorists, and the evil self-serving dishonest &
> > > dishonorable war-mongers, and Ray (who happens to be both).
> .
> > I don't think either terrorists or war-mongers should be generally
> > classified as mentally ill. They tend to be people who are very
> > effective, maintain large social networks, and are devoted to their
> > causes.
> >
> > I think there is research that supports this.
>
> "Fact checking is for sissies, that's my motto."
>
> - Leslie Harder/Holly/Gladys as "Lark" in MW
Citations are too much work. But I remember reading once about such
research. You don't have to believe me. I won't hate you.
I am not online to make a court case for anything, but rather to hint
at things you might not have been aware of.
>
> > It's just that anyone who is hated is called crazy, 'cause it's the
> > worst thing you can say about someone--instant invalidation.
>
> And, you, Pies, are defending... this:
Ray is irrelevant. I asserted that Zero was acting like Ann Coulter.
I'm not defending anyone.
Ann Coulter's use of 'faggot' was offensive, but I'm not a big fan of
John Edwards, either.
$Zero
"
> I'm a terrorist now? Why?
[...]
> --
> Ray
"
$Zero
> fictional paraphrasing.
>
> Isn't that telling?
[...]
> --
> Ray