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Stan (the Man)
degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks nothing worth
a war, is worse. A man who has nothing which he cares more about than he
does about his personal safety is a miserable creature who has no chance
at being free, unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men
than himself."
-- John Stuart Mill
"It is the soldier, not the reporter, who has given us freedom of the
press. It is the soldier, not the poet, who has given us freedom of
speech. It is the soldier, not the campus organizer, who has given us
the freedom to demonstrate. It is the soldier, who salutes the flag, who
serves beneath the flag, and whose coffin is draped by the flag, who
allows the protester to burn the flag."
-- Dennis Edward O'Brian, Chaplain, USMC
--
Stan
Catmandu
"Stan (the Man)" <skidN...@optonline.net.INVALID> wrote in message
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Yes! Well said!
But I still wish they would deliver the mail. My package from Tijuana is
over due.
--Catmandu
Alan Hope
>"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things; the decayed and
>degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks nothing worth
>a war, is worse. A man who has nothing which he cares more about than he
>does about his personal safety is a miserable creature who has no chance
>at being free, unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men
>than himself."
>-- John Stuart Mill
Mill was afraid of his own shadow. When challenged to a bout of
fisticuffs by Carlyle, he began whimpering and hid behind Kitty
Carlyle's voluminous crinoline. Carlyle famously booted him in the
arse and chucked the ms of a chapter of System of Logic, Ratiocinative
and Inductive, which they had been discussing and over which the
dispute had broken out, into the fire. Mill let it burn rather than
expose himself to more chastisement.
>"It is the soldier, not the reporter, who has given us freedom of the
>press. It is the soldier, not the poet, who has given us freedom of
>speech. It is the soldier, not the campus organizer, who has given us
>the freedom to demonstrate. It is the soldier, who salutes the flag, who
>serves beneath the flag, and whose coffin is draped by the flag, who
>allows the protester to burn the flag."
>-- Dennis Edward O'Brian, Chaplain, USMC
That's not true at all. Soldiers will obey whoever's running the show,
whether it's Jefferson or Hastings Banda. There's nothing
intrinsically honourable about soldiering, only the use to which it is
is occasionally put.
--
AH
gekko
misc.writing I see little "Stan (the Man)"
<skidN...@optonline.net.INVALID> saying:
> freedom of the press.
Given how free the press has been, a little freedom from the press
would be a good thing every now and then. I read somewhere that
shortly after the hotel bombing in Jordan, looters were raping small
dogs[1].
So what, in y'all's opinions of course, is the newspaper/news
program/news magazine that you feel has the most integrity and
tendency to present news most objectively?
[1] artistic license. 'k?
--
gekko
We may not return the affection of those who like us, but we always
respect their good judgement.
Stan (the Man)
Shaddap, fool! There are police people who read this group!
--
Stan
Stan (the Man)
gekko wrote:
> Romper, stomper, bomper boo. Magic Mirror tell me true. In
> misc.writing I see little "Stan (the Man)"
> <skidN...@optonline.net.INVALID> saying:
>
>
>
>>freedom of the press.
>
>
> Given how free the press has been, a little freedom from the press
> would be a good thing every now and then. I read somewhere that
> shortly after the hotel bombing in Jordan, looters were raping small
> dogs[1].
>
> So what, in y'all's opinions of course, is the newspaper/news
> program/news magazine that you feel has the most integrity and
> tendency to present news most objectively?
I'd love to reply, but for the life of me can't remember saying what you
said I said or what I said it about. What you said I said, that is. I
think.
--
Stan
Catmandu
"Stan (the Man)" <skidN...@optonline.net.INVALID> wrote in message
Uh, did I write Tijuana? I meant Toledo. Yeah, Toledo.
(Isn't that the big town up in Canada?)
--Catmandu
Alan Hope
>So what, in y'all's opinions of course, is the newspaper/news
>program/news magazine that you feel has the most integrity and
>tendency to present news most objectively?
The Daily Show with Jon Stewart is the only one that comes close.
--
AH
Wendy Chatley Green
wrote:
:Mill was afraid of his own shadow. When challenged to a bout of
:fisticuffs by Carlyle, he began whimpering and hid behind Kitty
:Carlyle's voluminous crinoline
To Tell the Truth, Kitty Carlisle never wore crinoline....
--
Wendy Chatley Green
gekko
was in a quote you quoted. I'm kinda down on media, right now.
gekko
Well, at least that one is entertaining.
Alan Hope
I sit corrected, but shortly I shall stand up corrected and go and lie
down corrected.
Good night.
--
AH
dearcilla
Men and women who are not soldiers build the tanks and guns and
computers and satellites and trucks and MREs and all else that the
soldier uses to defend the country.
War is logistics; getting there the "firstest with the mostest". It is
not a matter of indifference whether one faces an enemy with an M-16 or
a stone axe.
Everyone who contributes to the American economy is supporting the
American military. And that is every American.
So it is a very foolish thing to set a soldier-citizen above all other
citizens. Every profession is honorable. And everyone must die,
generally, as in the WTC, without a weapon to fight back with.
Alan Hope
>Well, at least that one is entertaining.
You can watch tons of clips on the Netterweb.
I like their corrs much more than I like Stewart, actually. He mugs
too much, is too apologetic whenever he says something edgy, kisses
the arses of his guests to an extent that's embarrassing. He seems
never to prepare any interviews at all. He steps on his own (show's)
jokes all the time. When Helms or Corddry is playing it straight,
Stewart will smirk and play coy, and defuse any comic tension. He
wants to be loved too much.
As for Stephen Colbert, what a shithouse idea that show was. You can
hear them pitching it: "Like the Daily Show but with Stephen instead
of Jon, and with none of the others". Yeah, gimme two. It's dead,
lame, halt, pedestrian. Colbert is floundering as he has no-one to
play off of. He has no-one off of whom to play. He's totally on his
own. Besides, he can never do anything in that show's format that
won't look like a Daily Show out-take. Colbert should have taken the
Carell route, whatever that is.
And that's it from Your Media Diary Tonite for tonight. Join us again
same time tomorrow. Gek?
--
AH
Zero
gekko wrote:
> little "Stan (the Man)" <skidN...@optonline.net.INVALID> saying:
>
>
> > freedom of the press.
>
> Given how free the press has been, a little freedom from the press
> would be a good thing every now and then.
freedom from the Busholian's paid press sure would be nice.
[...]
> So what, in y'all's opinions of course, is the newspaper/news
> program/news magazine that you feel has the most integrity and
> tendency to present news most objectively?
The Joquevillian, of course.
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--------------------- How flawed is your "logic"? ---------------------
IF 3 + 3 = 5
AND 2 + 2 = 3 + 3
AND 3 > 2
THEN 2 + 2 = 5 is:
a] True
b] False
c] Unable to Determine
d] Logical Cognitive Dissonance/y
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(but only if you can explain it logically)
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Catmandu
"dearcilla" <dear...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Okay, girlie; but when the leader shouts "let's go", and when the shooting
starts and men start falling, I'd sure rather be in a defense plant builting
vehicles or sitting behind a computer than wearing cammo, carrying 60 pounds
on my back and knowing any second that it might be my last.
You?
Men and women who support the troops are just that: support. They (we) are
vital, but we are not the risk takers, the super humans who ultimately win
the fight.
The soldier is the true hero of any nation. It's not the movie star who
plays the role on screen or the imbedded reporter who gets the story and
sends it back. It's the grunt who puts his/her life on the line and pulls
the trigger--or takes one for the rest of us back home.
God Bless America and God Bless George W Bush.
--Catmandu
gekko
that Alan Hope <not.al...@mail.com> said in
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> And that's it from Your Media Diary Tonite for tonight. Join us
> again same time tomorrow. Gek?
Thank you, Alan. Nice tie! Birthday present?
In other news, CNN reporter Nancy Grace was rushed to the hospital.
An unnamed source reports that the device used to help her create her
signature sneer was accidentally jammed further into an unmentioned
portion of her body than is customary. Rival network Fox's Bill
O'Reilly is reported as exclaiming, "BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA! OH DEAR
LORD THAT IS TOO <bleeeeeeeeeeep> GOOD!"
--
gekko
I think I've figured out why slugs don't like margaritas.
dearcilla
Girlie?
>
> You?
In the United States, a defense plant might feel pretty safe. In Iraq,
on the eve of invasion, it wouldn't feel so safe. It all depends on
what sort of support you think you have; this was my point you
see--that support from fellow citizens is everything and soldiers do
not exist on an exalted higher plane apart from the rest of society.
Whatever the situation, it feels good to be moving, doing useful work,
and fighting back, if necessary. Waiting for death is not good,
regardless.
>
> Men and women who support the troops are just that: support. They (we) are
> vital, but we are not the risk takers, the super humans who ultimately win
> the fight.
All wars devolve into total war; the distinction between civilians and
military is illusory. Remembrances of WWII should remind you of _that_.
>
> The soldier is the true hero of any nation. It's not the movie star who
> plays the role on screen or the imbedded reporter who gets the story and
> sends it back. It's the grunt who puts his/her life on the line and pulls
> the trigger--or takes one for the rest of us back home.
That's not true, and you know it. All people are allowed to die & be
heroes even if they are not MOS 11. Even without a direct order or a
superior officer. The Army is not above the Coast Guard is not above
civilians in the same way that the Marine Corps is not above the Army
and Navy.
>
> God Bless America and God Bless George W Bush.
GWB is not a soldier. What that means is that he does not have a helmet
or a gun. At any time what happened to Kennedy could happen to him,
despite the best efforts of the Secret Service. And anything that could
possibly be done to his wife and children could be (probably would be)
justified by saying "Abu Ghraib". So he is at least as brave as any
soldier, because he could have been much nicer to mass murderers in
this world if he only cared about his safety and his families safety.
>
> --Catmandu
Ejucaided Redneck
been brought about because a set of official gentlemen, living
luxurious lives, mostly stupid..have chosen that it should occur
rather than that any one of them should suffer some infinitesimal
rebuff to his country's pride. -- Bertrand Russell
And O'Brian didn't write what you attributed to him.
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dearcilla
Stan (the Man) wrote:
> -- John Stuart Mill
>
I could say a lot of things, but really, I just think John Stuart Mill
was a pinhead. I think I had to read something by him in a philosophy
class once. And I Didn't Like It.
Towse
> All this madness, all this rage, all this flaming death. . .has
> been brought about because a set of official gentlemen, living
> luxurious lives, mostly stupid..have chosen that it should occur
> rather than that any one of them should suffer some infinitesimal
> rebuff to his country's pride. -- Bertrand Russell
>
> And O'Brian didn't write what you attributed to him.
Dear Abby has a lot to answer for.
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Alan Hope
>Okay, girlie; but when the leader shouts "let's go", and when the shooting
>starts and men start falling, I'd sure rather be in a defense plant builting
>vehicles or sitting behind a computer than wearing cammo, carrying 60 pounds
>on my back and knowing any second that it might be my last.
You have the luxury of being American, so your wars are fought (in the
modern age) far away from where your civilians are. In WWII, by
contrast, you were nearly as imperilled working in a shipyard in
Clydebank as you were on the battlefield. Bombs, what's more, don't
take prisoners.
--
AH
Jackson Pillock
"Stan (the Man)" <skidN...@optonline.net.INVALID> wrote in message
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He might have got some puzzled stares if he said this to a group of Germans.
I wonder how they approach the whole "Who Shot Liberty Valance?" thing.
Interesting inversion in that film: It was Jimmy Stewart, who played the
lawyer-politician, who fought in the Second World War, and not John Wayne,
who played the gunslinger. Doesn't matter though. Lee Marvin would have
kicked both their asses, drunk or sober.
Isn't it wonderful to be a man?
Pies de Arcilla
Alan Hope wrote:
> Catmandu goes:
>
> >Okay, girlie; but when the leader shouts "let's go", and when the shooting
> >starts and men start falling, I'd sure rather be in a defense plant builting
> >vehicles or sitting behind a computer than wearing cammo, carrying 60 pounds
> >on my back and knowing any second that it might be my last.
>
> You have the luxury of being American, so your wars are fought (in the
> modern age) far away from where your civilians are. In WWII, by
In the modern age, the U.S. Army is so overpowering that civilians are
the targets of choice. They call that 'terrorism'; you may have heard
of it. You might as well say Americans have the luxury of fighting wars
on the moon, the privileged bastards. Americans do have the luxury not
to target civilians, but not the luxury not to _be_ targeted.
Pies de Arcilla
Jackson Pillock wrote:
> "Stan (the Man)" <skidN...@optonline.net.INVALID> wrote in message
> news:ps6df.12027$oP5....@fe09.lga...
> :
> : "It is the soldier, not the reporter, who has given us freedom of the
> : press. It is the soldier, not the poet, who has given us freedom of
> : speech. It is the soldier, not the campus organizer, who has given us
> : the freedom to demonstrate. It is the soldier, who salutes the flag, who
> : serves beneath the flag, and whose coffin is draped by the flag, who
> : allows the protester to burn the flag."
> : -- Dennis Edward O'Brian, Chaplain, USMC
>
> He might have got some puzzled stares if he said this to a group of Germans.
I think somebody could plausibly claim that American soldiers gave
Germans all that stuff, even though I don't personally agree. If that's
puzzling, so what?
[snip]
>
> Isn't it wonderful to be a man?
Why is that?
Alan Hope
>Alan Hope wrote:
>> Catmandu goes:
>> >Okay, girlie; but when the leader shouts "let's go", and when the shooting
>> >starts and men start falling, I'd sure rather be in a defense plant builting
>> >vehicles or sitting behind a computer than wearing cammo, carrying 60 pounds
>> >on my back and knowing any second that it might be my last.
>> You have the luxury of being American, so your wars are fought (in the
>> modern age) far away from where your civilians are. In WWII, by
>In the modern age, the U.S. Army is so overpowering that civilians are
>the targets of choice. They call that 'terrorism'; you may have heard
>of it. You might as well say Americans have the luxury of fighting wars
>on the moon, the privileged bastards. Americans do have the luxury not
>to target civilians, but not the luxury not to _be_ targeted.
You're not following.
>> contrast, you were nearly as imperilled working in a shipyard in
>> Clydebank as you were on the battlefield. Bombs, what's more, don't
>> take prisoners.
--
AH
Catmandu
"Pies de Arcilla" <dear...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Well, excuse us for our *earned* luxury; and excuse us for not wanting to
fight a war on our own soil. How callus of us. Fuck the towel-headed
bastards who got in our face (google up 9-11 in case you missed it) and let
them wallow in the shit they started.
They did start it, you know.
Leave it to a loser like Hope to go back 60 years for an example that didn't
even fit the discussion anyway. What a silly, silly thing to say. BTW, in
case Hope didn't learn it in school, it was the American force that drove
the Germans out of his fucking, little, irrelevant country in WWII. It
wasn't the Islamic terrorists or the other groups of miscreants that he
admires so much. Did I mention that both Scotland and Belgium are
irrelevant in the world? They aren't worth the paint it takes to draw them
on a map.
Who's going to handle the France situation (another waste of paint)? Ya
think the Belgian or the Scot's army will go over and help the French put it
down? My guess is that it will not be put down. France will cave, and all
other Europeon nations that have sucked up to the Middle-East for the last
decade 'naf will crumble like mud huts in an earthquake.
It's just the chickens coming home to roost (American idiom. Look it up).
And when Hope and his ilk and you--whoever you are--start reading the Koran
with a gun in your face, I'll laugh my freedom loving ass off at you.
The day will come. Hide and watch.
In the meantime, we Real Americans will enjoy the luxury of our proud and
tough heritage and kick ass all the way across the globe if we have to in
order to secure our citizens. That's one of the valuable quirks of being an
AMERICAN. God bless the American soldier.
God Bless America and God Bless George W Bush.
Damn I'm good.
--Catmandu
Catmandu
I'm still trying to figure out the rambling bullshit in this last paragraph.
But nevermind.
Of course the civilian population is the farm from which soldiers are
plucked and put into action. Dud. It is the home ground that grows the war
tools of battle. In war it has always been sensible to break that
production chain by disrupting the civilian population (read that: bomb them
out of production). To ignore that tactic would be senseless.
If civilians want to lay faux-claim to the honor of heroism they must pay
the price of risk. However, they are not "heroes, but merely honorable
citizens doing the job of support. A very valuable job, but not one of
heroism.
But the life expectancy of a civilian so-called *hero* (however you want to
caption it) is multi-times longer and more secure than that of a soldier.
If you haven't figure that out yet you need to do some cogitation. In the
Iraqi Freedom conflict, the U.S. has lost over 2000 soldiers. Total defense
plant/support personnel deaths by enemy fire: zero.
Now, if we go back a few years to the attack on WTC, the civilian count far
outlists what we have lost in the war. You liberals piss and moan about how
dangerous it is for Iraqi citizens because of the war--as if you really
cared--but do you still weep over the American civilian WTC loss at the
hands of the same shitty-assed Islamic bastards that are killing their own
people in the Mid-East?
I doubt it.
Every time a suicide bomber kills 20 or 30 Iraqi citizens, CNNBS, NPRBS and
the liberal democrats in the Senate and Congress clasp themselves in
ecstasy. It is a repugnant sight to see.
And the rest of you liberals lap it up like puppy piss that missed the
paper. You people are disgusting.
Pies de Arcilla
> >
> > Catmandu wrote:
> > > God Bless America and God Bless George W Bush.
> >
> > GWB is not a soldier. What that means is that he does not have a helmet
> > or a gun. At any time what happened to Kennedy could happen to him,
> > despite the best efforts of the Secret Service. And anything that could
> > possibly be done to his wife and children could be (probably would be)
> > justified by saying "Abu Ghraib". So he is at least as brave as any
> > soldier, because he could have been much nicer to mass murderers in
> > this world if he only cared about his safety and his families safety.
> >
> > >
> > > --Catmandu
>
> I'm still trying to figure out the rambling bullshit in this last paragraph.
> But nevermind.
>
I said: "[GWB] is at least as brave as any soldier".
You said: "bullshit".
Whose side are you on anyway?
> Of course the civilian population is the farm from which soldiers are
> plucked and put into action. Dud. It is the home ground that grows the war
> tools of battle. In war it has always been sensible to break that
> production chain by disrupting the civilian population (read that: bomb them
> out of production). To ignore that tactic would be senseless.
>
> If civilians want to lay faux-claim to the honor of heroism they must pay
> the price of risk. However, they are not "heroes, but merely honorable
> citizens doing the job of support. A very valuable job, but not one of
> heroism.
The heart and lungs are not less important than the hand that holds the
spear.
>
> But the life expectancy of a civilian so-called *hero* (however you want to
> caption it) is multi-times longer and more secure than that of a soldier.
> If you haven't figure that out yet you need to do some cogitation. In the
> Iraqi Freedom conflict, the U.S. has lost over 2000 soldiers. Total defense
> plant/support personnel deaths by enemy fire: zero.
The WTC and the Pentagon casualties were contributors to the American
'military-industrial' complex, so I think you ought to count them. And
I think you ought to count Iraqis who support the 'occupation regime'
in any way, like voting, as civilian heroes in the war.
>
> Now, if we go back a few years to the attack on WTC, the civilian count far
> outlists what we have lost in the war. You liberals piss and moan about how
> dangerous it is for Iraqi citizens because of the war--as if you really
> cared--but do you still weep over the American civilian WTC loss at the
> hands of the same shitty-assed Islamic bastards that are killing their own
> people in the Mid-East?
Ok, pissing and moaning is bad, but weeping is good. How about ashes
and sackcloth?
Alan Hope
>It's just the chickens coming home to roost (American idiom. Look it up).
>And when Hope and his ilk and you--whoever you are--start reading the Koran
>with a gun in your face, I'll laugh my freedom loving ass off at you.
We'll be no worse off than you are already. Just calling our Big Angry
Spook in the Sky by a different name.
In the meantime, what about the news that the GOP thinks another 9-11
would be good for the guy with the vacant stare, whatsisname,
Georgie-Boy? Well, it couldn't hurt, could it? Think they'll go ahead
with it?
--
AH
Pies de Arcilla
Alan Hope wrote:
> Pies de Arcilla goes:
>
>
> >Alan Hope wrote:
> >> Catmandu goes:
>
> >> >Okay, girlie; but when the leader shouts "let's go", and when the shooting
> >> >starts and men start falling, I'd sure rather be in a defense plant builting
> >> >vehicles or sitting behind a computer than wearing cammo, carrying 60 pounds
> >> >on my back and knowing any second that it might be my last.
>
> >> You have the luxury of being American, so your wars are fought (in the
> >> modern age) far away from where your civilians are. In WWII, by
>
> >In the modern age, the U.S. Army is so overpowering that civilians are
> >the targets of choice. They call that 'terrorism'; you may have heard
> >of it. You might as well say Americans have the luxury of fighting wars
> >on the moon, the privileged bastards. Americans do have the luxury not
> >to target civilians, but not the luxury not to _be_ targeted.
>
> You're not following.
>
Pies de Arcilla
>
> It's just the chickens coming home to roost (American idiom. Look it up).
> And when Hope and his ilk and you--whoever you are--start reading the Koran
> with a gun in your face, I'll laugh my freedom loving ass off at you.
>
I want you to know that I take offense at the insinuation that I have
not read the Qu'ran.
Also, are you implying that I am using a pseudonym, Ms. Catmandu?
Pies de Arcilla
Alan Hope wrote:
> In the meantime, what about the news that the GOP thinks another 9-11
> would be good for the guy with the vacant stare, whatsisname,
> Georgie-Boy? Well, it couldn't hurt, could it? Think they'll go ahead
> with it?
>
That's nothing. I heard on the BBC that the U.S. wants to undermine the
very basis for international timekeeping at the behest of sinister
corporate forces. They want to FORCE THE ITU TO ABOLISH LEAP
SECONDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Catmandu
"Pies de Arcilla" <dear...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> Catmandu wrote:
> > "dearcilla" <dear...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:1131762549....@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> > >
> > > Catmandu wrote:
> > > > God Bless America and God Bless George W Bush.
> > >
> > > GWB is not a soldier. What that means is that he does not have a
helmet
> > > or a gun. At any time what happened to Kennedy could happen to him,
> > > despite the best efforts of the Secret Service. And anything that
could
> > > possibly be done to his wife and children could be (probably would be)
> > > justified by saying "Abu Ghraib". So he is at least as brave as any
> > > soldier, because he could have been much nicer to mass murderers in
> > > this world if he only cared about his safety and his families safety.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > --Catmandu
> >
> > I'm still trying to figure out the rambling bullshit in this last
paragraph.
> > But nevermind.
> >
>
> I said: "[GWB] is at least as brave as any soldier".
> You said: "bullshit".
> Whose side are you on anyway?
I'm on my side, you poor-ass writer who can't make sense.
>
> > Of course the civilian population is the farm from which soldiers are
>
> > plucked and put into action. Dud. It is the home ground that grows the
war
> > tools of battle. In war it has always been sensible to break that
> > production chain by disrupting the civilian population (read that: bomb
them
> > out of production). To ignore that tactic would be senseless.
> >
> > If civilians want to lay faux-claim to the honor of heroism they must
pay
> > the price of risk. However, they are not "heroes, but merely honorable
> > citizens doing the job of support. A very valuable job, but not one of
> > heroism.
>
> The heart and lungs are not less important than the hand that holds the
> spear.
What bullshit! Heroism and *imporant* job are not necessarily mutually
identical. Get your philosphical head out of your ass, you ninny.
> >
> > But the life expectancy of a civilian so-called *hero* (however you want
to
> > caption it) is multi-times longer and more secure than that of a
soldier.
> > If you haven't figure that out yet you need to do some cogitation. In
the
> > Iraqi Freedom conflict, the U.S. has lost over 2000 soldiers. Total
defense
> > plant/support personnel deaths by enemy fire: zero.
>
> The WTC and the Pentagon casualties were contributors to the American
> 'military-industrial' complex, so I think you ought to count them. And
> I think you ought to count Iraqis who support the 'occupation regime'
> in any way, like voting, as civilian heroes in the war.
Oh, Gawd! "contributors to the American Military Industrial complex". Not
another liberal platitudist on this newsgroup. Iraqis who die because they
are trying to vote are just Iraqi citizens getting killed trying to vote.
Nothing heroic about that. Just the facts of life in that hapless area of
the world.
>
> >
> > Now, if we go back a few years to the attack on WTC, the civilian count
far
> > outlists what we have lost in the war. You liberals piss and moan about
how
> > dangerous it is for Iraqi citizens because of the war--as if you really
> > cared--but do you still weep over the American civilian WTC loss at the
> > hands of the same shitty-assed Islamic bastards that are killing their
own
> > people in the Mid-East?
>
> Ok, pissing and moaning is bad, but weeping is good. How about ashes
> and sackcloth?
Weeping is okay for a moment, but continuous weeping is silly. Jesus wept
for the shortest verse in the Bible. Then he sucked it up and got back to
business. There's a man for you.
How about ass kissing and sucking up to the enemy? That's what the
democrats are good at.
--Catmandu
Catmandu
Well, the only kind of pies I know are the ones in the pie store--pseudo or
not.
So you read the book of Satan, eh? Well, good for you.
--Catmandu
Jackson Pillock
:
So nothing. Do you have a point of view, a clever line, dos zapatos caminar?
:
: [snip]
: >
: > Isn't it wonderful to be a man?
:
: Why is that?
You have to figure out whether you're an asshole, a dick or a pussy. Didn't
you see Team America?
:
Ivor Longhorn
<skidN...@optonline.net.INVALID> said:
>"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things; the decayed and
>degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks nothing worth
>a war, is worse. A man who has nothing which he cares more about than he
>does about his personal safety is a miserable creature who has no chance
>at being free, unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men
>than himself."
>-- John Stuart Mill
>
>"It is the soldier, not the reporter, who has given us freedom of the
>press. It is the soldier, not the poet, who has given us freedom of
>speech. It is the soldier, not the campus organizer, who has given us
>the freedom to demonstrate. It is the soldier, who salutes the flag, who
>serves beneath the flag, and whose coffin is draped by the flag, who
>allows the protester to burn the flag."
>-- Dennis Edward O'Brian, Chaplain, USMC
Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel. Make love not war.
Dr Zen
Excruciatingly embarrasing signature contents go here.
http://gollyg.blogspot.com
Ivor Longhorn
<ge...@lutz.kicks-ass.org.INVALID> said:
>Romper, stomper, bomper boo. Magic Mirror tell me true. In
>misc.writing I see little "Stan (the Man)"
><skidN...@optonline.net.INVALID> saying:
>
>
>> freedom of the press.
>
>Given how free the press has been, a little freedom from the press
>would be a good thing every now and then. I read somewhere that
>shortly after the hotel bombing in Jordan, looters were raping small
>dogs[1].
>
>So what, in y'all's opinions of course, is the newspaper/news
>program/news magazine that you feel has the most integrity and
>tendency to present news most objectively?
>
None of the above.
Ivor Longhorn
said:
a brainless cunt who thinks being shot is a good way to spend the day.
Fuck that shit.
Ivor Longhorn
<rls...@mindspring.com> said:
>All this madness, all this rage, all this flaming death. . .has
>been brought about because a set of official gentlemen, living
>luxurious lives, mostly stupid..have chosen that it should occur
>rather than that any one of them should suffer some infinitesimal
>rebuff to his country's pride. -- Bertrand Russell
>
Innit. A voice of sanity.
Ivor Longhorn
said:
>
>"Pies de Arcilla" <dear...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:1131799057....@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> Alan Hope wrote:
>> > Catmandu goes:
>> >
>> > >Okay, girlie; but when the leader shouts "let's go", and when the
>shooting
>> > >starts and men start falling, I'd sure rather be in a defense plant
>builting
>> > >vehicles or sitting behind a computer than wearing cammo, carrying 60
>pounds
>> > >on my back and knowing any second that it might be my last.
>> >
>> > You have the luxury of being American, so your wars are fought (in the
>> > modern age) far away from where your civilians are. In WWII, by
>>
>> In the modern age, the U.S. Army is so overpowering that civilians are
>> the targets of choice. They call that 'terrorism'; you may have heard
>> of it. You might as well say Americans have the luxury of fighting wars
>> on the moon, the privileged bastards. Americans do have the luxury not
>> to target civilians, but not the luxury not to _be_ targeted.
>>
>> > contrast, you were nearly as imperilled working in a shipyard in
>> > Clydebank as you were on the battlefield. Bombs, what's more, don't
>> > take prisoners.
>> >
>>
>
>
>Well, excuse us for our *earned* luxury; and excuse us for not wanting to
>fight a war on our own soil. How callus of us. Fuck the towel-headed
>bastards
"They did it because they're jealous."
ing
> gekko goes:
>
>
>>Well, at least that one is entertaining.
>
>
> You can watch tons of clips on the Netterweb.
>
> I like their corrs much more than I like Stewart, actually. He mugs
> too much, is too apologetic whenever he says something edgy, kisses
> the arses of his guests to an extent that's embarrassing. He seems
> never to prepare any interviews at all. He steps on his own (show's)
> jokes all the time. When Helms or Corddry is playing it straight,
> Stewart will smirk and play coy, and defuse any comic tension. He
> wants to be loved too much.
Or he knows how much he is admired ... and is
taking it to the limit, playing it for his own
ego. Either way, Stewart is slipping. Mugging
ain't funny - good satiric writing is. You'd
think he'd know the difference.
>
> As for Stephen Colbert, what a shithouse idea that show was. [.....] It's dead,
> lame, halt, pedestrian. Colbert is floundering .....
Colbert never got off the ground on his own show.
Piece of shit is right. Boring and intellectually
insulting. Somewhere between his gigs on Stewarts
show and taking over his own show, Colbert got
"satire" and "mugging for the camera" confused.
Let his show die a quiet, deserving death - fast
please.
ing
Bob (this one)
> Oh, Gawd! "contributors to the American Military Industrial complex". Not
> another liberal platitudist on this newsgroup.
Expression first publicly uttered by that famous liberal Dwight David
Eisenhower. And he was warning America against it.
Read a book all the way through once.
Pastorio
Jackson Pillock
"Ivor Longhorn" <longho...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:h15dn1paof64u4ljr...@4ax.com...
: Shazam! No reason, it's just magic. So "Catmandu" <same@ Iknow.com>
Tsk. What if everyone thought that way?
Josh Hill
"Why should we hear about body bags, and deaths, and how many, what
day it's gonna happen, and how many this or what do you suppose? Oh, I
mean, it's not relevant. So why should I waste my beautiful mind on
something like that?" - Barbara Bush
--
Josh
"I'm not going to play like I've been a person who's spent hours
involved with foreign policy. I am who I am." - George W. Bush
Robert
<< message >>
I can't believe Barbara Bush said that.
--
Rob
Robert
<< message >>
Yes, but by the time he said it he was in a wheelchair and channeling a
strange intergalactic power.
--
Rob
Pies de Arcilla
Catmandu wrote:
> "Pies de Arcilla" <dear...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1131806093.2...@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> > Catmandu wrote:
> > >
> > > It's just the chickens coming home to roost (American idiom. Look it
> up).
> > > And when Hope and his ilk and you--whoever you are--start reading the
> Koran
> > > with a gun in your face, I'll laugh my freedom loving ass off at you.
> > >
> >
> > I want you to know that I take offense at the insinuation that I have
> > not read the Qu'ran.
> > Also, are you implying that I am using a pseudonym, Ms. Catmandu?
>
>
> Well, the only kind of pies I know are the ones in the pie store--pseudo or
> not.
>
'Pies' is Dutch, you misbegotten daughter of a skink.
Pies de Arcilla
Jackson Pillock wrote:
> So nothing. Do you have a point of view, a clever line, dos zapatos caminar?
>
If you wish to descend to the insults, you will have to try English or
French. I don't speak Spanish.
Pies de Arcilla
Catmandu wrote:
> "Pies de Arcilla" <dear...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1131805371.5...@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > 'military-industrial' complex, so I think you ought to count them. And
> > I think you ought to count Iraqis who support the 'occupation regime'
> > in any way, like voting, as civilian heroes in the war.
>
> Oh, Gawd! "contributors to the American Military Industrial complex". Not
> another liberal platitudist on this newsgroup. Iraqis who die because they
> are trying to vote are just Iraqi citizens getting killed trying to vote.
> Nothing heroic about that. Just the facts of life in that hapless area of
> the world.
>
Heroism is just a fact of life.
[snip]
>
> How about ass kissing and sucking up to the enemy? That's what the
> democrats are good at.
Not me; I'm a Democrat and I don't do that.
However, I believe that calling the President an idiot, for example, is
a patriotic thing to do because it leads enemies of the U.S. to
underestimate him.
Traveling Ray
wrote:
>However, I believe that calling the President an idiot, for example, is
>a patriotic thing to do because it leads enemies of the U.S. to
>underestimate him.
And you. But then, I repeat myself.
--
Ray
Traveling Ray
wrote:
>Josh Hill wrote:
>
><< message >>
>
>I can't believe Barbara Bush said that.
Josh lies. He always does.
--
Ray
Pies de Arcilla
Jackson Pillock wrote:
> "Pies de Arcilla" <dear...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1131799402....@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> :
> : Jackson Pillock wrote:
> : >
> :
> : Why is that?
>
> You have to figure out whether you're an asshole, a dick or a pussy. Didn't
> you see Team America?
>
> :
Do you know what a man _is_?
Pies de Arcilla
That's no more or less stupid than the quote from Bertrand Russell
elsewhere in the thread.
Robert
<< far-flung message >>
It can only make sense as a lie, Ray. I'll have to keep an eye on the
New York nancy-boy.
Have fun, ya doity dog.
--
Rob
Pies de Arcilla
No, this is the first time you've called me an idiot.
Josh Hill
wrote:
>Traveling Ray wrote:
'Claim: Former First Lady Barbara Bush said of the war in Iraq: "Why
should we hear about body bags and deaths? It's not relevant. So why
should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that?"
'Status: True.
'Origins: While niggling memories of the title of the film that took
Best Picture honors in the 2002 Academy Awards might leave some to
question the veracity of the purported Barbara Bush "beautiful mind"
quote, the utterance was indeed the real thing. The former First Lady
made this remark on national television shortly before the
commencement of the invasion of Iraq.
'The comment arose during a Good Morning America interview with the
couple who were formerly President and First Lady, George H.W. Bush
and Barbara Bush. The interview was conducted by Diane Sawyer in
Houston scant hours before the couple's son, President George W. Bush,
delivered a televised ultimatum to Saddam Hussein to step down from
power and leave Iraq or face U.S.-led military action. The chat with
the senior Bushes aired the following morning, 18 March
2003. . . . '
http://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/barbara.asp
Josh Hill
Pulled another rat from your hat, eh? Proof number 318,839 that Ray is
a pathological liar:
'Claim: Former First Lady Barbara Bush said of the war in Iraq: "Why
should we hear about body bags and deaths? It's not relevant. So why
should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that?"
'Status: True.
'Origins: While niggling memories of the title of the film that took
Best Picture honors in the 2002 Academy Awards might leave some to
question the veracity of the purported Barbara Bush "beautiful mind"
quote, the utterance was indeed the real thing. The former First Lady
made this remark on national television shortly before the
commencement of the invasion of Iraq.'
http://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/barbara.asp
Josh Hill
wrote:
>Josh Hill wrote:
>
><< message >>
>
>I can't believe Barbara Bush said that.
Fits right in with her New Orleans remark, doesn't it?
Bob (this one)
Why would you post something that a) isn't funny; b) isn't true; c) adds
or subtracts nothing from the comments of the post to which you're
replying; d) doesn't provide the post for reference so readers don't
know the reference...? There are more obvious questions, but I suspect
these will keep you busy enough.
Here's the post to which you replied.
Pastorio
---------------------
Pastorio
--------------------
Catmandu
"Pies de Arcilla" <dear...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1131806093.2...@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Catmandu wrote:
> >
> > It's just the chickens coming home to roost (American idiom. Look it
up).
> > And when Hope and his ilk and you--whoever you are--start reading the
Koran
> > with a gun in your face, I'll laugh my freedom loving ass off at you.
> >
>
> I want you to know that I take offense at the insinuation that I have
> not read the Qu'ran.
> Also, are you implying that I am using a pseudonym, Ms. Catmandu?
You are, of course implying that Catmandu is not my real name. Being the
high-profile public figger that I AM®, a codename works best for me.
Someone on this newsgroup may divulge to you my true identity, but then they
will have to kill you.
--********
Catmandu
Your grammar is horrible. Pies is plural. Therefore, pies *are* American.
Haven't you ever heard of American Pie? Perhaps you are thinking of Apfel
Strudel--which is Deutsch.
--Catmandu
Catmandu
That's telling him, Pie. BTW, "dos zapatos caminar" means two really fast
motorcycles.
--Catmandu
Catmandu
I called Bert on his cell and asked him if he'd care to retract it. He told
me he would think about it. Me and him are tight.
--Catmandu
Robert
"Bob (this one)" <B...@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:11nf4hu...@corp.supernews.com...
It's Okay Bob. I'm not really here, you 'know'? Are you an errant Pharisee
trying to piss into my coffee? Your aim is all wrong.
For my sins: Yes, Eisenhower did make that speech and he got outta town and
died. JFK came next and Military Intelligence blew JFK's brains out with the
help of the Mafia. My opinion, after reading countless and more countless
conspiracy books all the way through.
'The unwarranted power of the military-industrial complex. . . or something
like that.' Well,big deal, Bob. President Eisenhower gave a good name to the
800lb gorilla sitting in the room; it's quite tame so long as it's not
interferred with. Catmandu is fully cognizant of this "liberal lapse" by
P.E. and do you think he gives a shit? But keep trying to educate the rest
of the "froup."
Cheers
--
Robbie
Pies de Arcilla
Josh Hill wrote:
> 'Claim: Former First Lady Barbara Bush said of the war in Iraq: "Why
> should we hear about body bags and deaths? It's not relevant. So why
> should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that?"
>
> 'Status: True.
>
She did say those words, apparently, and yet you lie when you quote
her. How can that be? Well, for an example of honesty, reread the
snopes page you linked to.
Robert
"Robert" <sty...@ihug.com.au> wrote in message
news:dl8669$ia$1...@lust.ihug.co.nz...
being directed by aliens. It's on a 40 minute spoof I have somewhere on my
100 or so non-commercial videos. The Last Days: no, I will need to dig it
out. I also have a staggering witch Mandala which goes for about 4 minutes.
The porno people stuck it on the end of an R-rated film from the 80s called
Dirt Bike Bangers. Are you feeling edified yet?
Is it that time?
The time for me to fuck off . . .
--
Robbie
Catmandu
Pie, how dare you even hint that Josh Forrest Forrest Hill would knowingly
quote a lie to fuel his unbridled hatred for the Office of the Presidency.
Why, Josh's ancestry goes all the way back to George Washington and the
cherry tree. It was Josh's great, great kin removed to the power of 15 who
shoplifted the axe and gave it to young George to use.
--Catmandu
Catmandu
Who is this Eisenhower you keep talking about? Did he really shoot some
gorilla in his bedroom?
Lordy, I really need to get caught up on the news.
(Past-ri- acts like he's the only one who ever heard of "American Military
Industrial complex". But such an attitude is entirely liberal in nature--as
liberals think they are the only ones with smarts. They are like goldfish
in a bowl with no idea of what's going on outside.)
I hate liberalism.
--Catmandu
Stan (the Man)
Josh rarely fully reads his own cites. And, when he does, he simply
ignores the parts that don't support his idiotic contentions or
implications. And, he desperately hopes everyone else will, too. He's
not interested in truth. He's only interested in attention.
Here's the part I assume you're referring to which Josh prefers to
ignore and which he hopes everyone else will, too:
"Read within the context of the full interview, it is a tiny bit more
clear that Mrs. Bush's "beautiful mind" statement referred to her desire
not to become mesmerized by the pre-war media speculation of what such
an invasion would mean, what sorts of weaponry and defenses U.S. troops
might well be walking into, which troops would be committed and when
they'd be deployed, how long the war would last, and how high the body
count might be. Prior to the commencement of hostilities, such matters
were the subject of endless supposition by various news pundits. While
maybe not "90 percent" of what was filling the air waves was guesswork
rather than hard news, Mrs. Bush's point that news of that moment was
much more about what could or might happen rather than what was
happening was valid. Her comment was not meant as a dismissal of actual
deaths or suffering (troops had not yet been engaged at the time of her
remark), but of news coverage that amounted to one expert after another
making predictions about what they saw as likely to occur."
--
Stan
Pies de Arcilla
There is no reason why I shouldn't have a Dutch given name and a
Spanish surname. Only a small-minded bigot like yourself would make fun
of that. Nor am I less American than yourself.
Alan Hope
>Josh rarely fully
Fishwife.
--
AH
Pies de Arcilla
Stan (the Man) wrote:
[quoting snopes]
> rather than hard news, Mrs. Bush's point that news of that moment was
> much more about what could or might happen rather than what was
> happening was valid. Her comment was not meant as a dismissal of actual
> deaths or suffering (troops had not yet been engaged at the time of her
> remark), but of news coverage that amounted to one expert after another
> making predictions about what they saw as likely to occur."
>
I was listening to NPR on the eve of war, and envisioning WWIII, or at
least Vietnam.
I think that, whatever grave mistakes the president may have made,
including going to war itself, one ought to acknowledge that things
turned out considerably better than most of us expected. Speaking as a
Democrat who thought going to war was a mistake at the time.
Stan (the Man)
Alan Hope wrote:
> Stan (the Man) goes:
>
>
>>Josh rarely fully
>
>
> Fishwife.
Belgian.
--
Stan
Robert
Stan (the Man) goes:
" >Josh rarely fully
Fishwife."
As you intended, Alan, deja vu all over again. You have quite the
stroke.
--
Robbie
Pies de Arcilla
Catmandu wrote:
> Pie, how dare you even hint that Josh Forrest Forrest Hill would knowingly
> quote a lie to fuel his unbridled hatred for the Office of the Presidency.
He didn't quote a lie, he lied by quoting. And I don't think he hates
the office, just the inhabitant. And stop calling me Pie.
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Ivor Longhorn
<Jac...@splatter.com> said:
>
>"Ivor Longhorn" <longho...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:h15dn1paof64u4ljr...@4ax.com...
>: Shazam! No reason, it's just magic. So "Catmandu" <same@ Iknow.com>
>: said:
>:
>: >
>: >"dearcilla" <dear...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>: >news:1131754114.8...@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>: >>
>: >> Stan (the Man) wrote:
>: >> > "War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things; the decayed and
>: >> > degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks nothing
>worth
>: >> > a war, is worse. A man who has nothing which he cares more about than
>he
>: >> > does about his personal safety is a miserable creature who has no
>chance
>: >> > at being free, unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men
>: >> > than himself."
>: >> > -- John Stuart Mill
>: >> >
>: >> > "It is the soldier, not the reporter, who has given us freedom of the
>: >> > press. It is the soldier, not the poet, who has given us freedom of
>: >> > speech. It is the soldier, not the campus organizer, who has given us
>: >> > the freedom to demonstrate. It is the soldier, who salutes the flag,
>who
>: >> > serves beneath the flag, and whose coffin is draped by the flag, who
>: >> > allows the protester to burn the flag."
>: >> > -- Dennis Edward O'Brian, Chaplain, USMC
>: >> >
>: >>
>: >> Men and women who are not soldiers build the tanks and guns and
>: >> computers and satellites and trucks and MREs and all else that the
>: >> soldier uses to defend the country.
>: >>
>: >> War is logistics; getting there the "firstest with the mostest". It is
>: >> not a matter of indifference whether one faces an enemy with an M-16 or
>: >> a stone axe.
>: >>
>: >> Everyone who contributes to the American economy is supporting the
>: >> American military. And that is every American.
>: >>
>: >> So it is a very foolish thing to set a soldier-citizen above all other
>: >> citizens. Every profession is honorable. And everyone must die,
>: >> generally, as in the WTC, without a weapon to fight back with.
>: >
>: >
>: >Okay, girlie; but when the leader shouts "let's go", and when the
>shooting
>: >starts and men start falling, I'd sure rather be in a defense plant
>builting
>: >vehicles or sitting behind a computer than wearing cammo, carrying 60
>pounds
>: >on my back and knowing any second that it might be my last.
>: >
>: >You?
>: >
>: >Men and women who support the troops are just that: support. They (we)
>are
>: >vital, but we are not the risk takers, the super humans who ultimately
>win
>: >the fight.
>: >
>: >The soldier is
>:
>: a brainless cunt who thinks being shot is a good way to spend the day.
>: Fuck that shit.
>
>Tsk. What if everyone thought that way?
Wouldn't it be good?
Dr Zen
Excruciatingly embarrasing signature contents go here.
http://gollyg.blogspot.com
Ivor Longhorn
<dear...@gmail.com> said:
Who the fuck are you? Do you have anything to say that isn't entirely
witless?
If you ever do, could you tag the message [NOT THE USUAL CLUELESS
FUCKING SHIT] so that I know not to skip the message?
Alan Hope
WARNC
--
AH
Jackson Pillock
"Pies de Arcilla" <dear...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1131896830....@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
:
: Jackson Pillock wrote:
: > "Pies de Arcilla" <dear...@gmail.com> wrote in message
: > news:1131799402....@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
: > :
: > : Jackson Pillock wrote:
: > : >
: > : > Isn't it wonderful to be a man?
: > :
: > : Why is that?
: >
: > You have to figure out whether you're an asshole, a dick or a pussy.
Didn't
: > you see Team America?
: >
: > :
:
: Do you know what a man _is_?
Depends on your definition of *_is_* (my further emphasis).
:
Ivor Longhorn
<skidN...@optonline.net.INVALID> said:
>
>
>Pies de Arcilla wrote:
>> Josh Hill wrote:
>>
>>>'Claim: Former First Lady Barbara Bush said of the war in Iraq: "Why
>>>should we hear about body bags and deaths? It's not relevant. So why
>>>should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that?"
>>>
>>>'Status: True.
>>>
>>
>>
>> She did say those words, apparently, and yet you lie when you quote
>> her. How can that be? Well, for an example of honesty, reread the
>> snopes page you linked to.
>
>Josh rarely fully reads his own cites.
He doesn't need to. He quoted Barbara Bush saying something, and
someone said "you lied, she never said it". The person who called Josh
a liar did not say that he quoted her out of context but that she did
not say it at all.
Josh gave a source that confirms she said it.
You owe Josh an apology. Of course, you're more likely to weasel out
of it because for all that you claim you're "classy", you're a full of
shit gangfucker.
Jackson Pillock
:
: Jackson Pillock wrote:
:
: > So nothing. Do you have a point of view, a clever line, dos zapatos
caminar?
: >
:
: If you wish to descend to the insults, you will have to try English or
: French.
Moi, je n'en pu parler. Mais on descend tout de meme. Tu parles.
I don't speak Spanish.
Moi non plus, mais je connais:
La cucaracha, la cucaracha
Dos zapatos caminar
Pero no quiere
Porque no tiene
Marijuana que fumar.
:
Catmandu
Gasp! I've never been so insulted in all my life. Why, it's like someone
just threw a pies in my face.
Damn I'm funny.
Catman<and my mind is a big as yours>du
Catmandu
Your first mistake was listening to NPR. Your next mistake was being a
democrat. Your third mistake was thinking.
--Catmandu
Catmandu
>
Well, if you insist on referring to yourself in the plural, then I'm going
to change my name to:
--Catmen<not really>du
gekko
news:n4lfn195qfkdgek39...@4ax.com to misc.writing makes
Ivor Longhorn <longho...@gmail.com> happy ...
> If you ever do, could you tag the message [NOT THE USUAL CLUELESS
> FUCKING SHIT] so that I know not to skip the message?
Netfuckingnanny
--
gekko
Why do psychics have to ask you for your name? -- Steven Wright
Pies de Arcilla
I give up, what does that stand for? The only thing that comes to mind
is "What a r******d n****e c**t" but I'm sure you wouldn't be so rude.
Catmandu
Now that you mention it, I have heard of Dutch Apple Pie. But truthfully I
always thought it was a Sara Lee invention. I still think it might be.
So, you're saying that you are an American with a dutch first name and a
Spanish last name, eh? Cool.
So what about your middle name "de"? That sounds like French to me.
American, Dutch, Spanish and French. Man.
Musta been some hell of a party you mama went to. I don't guess you have
jpegs. No, prolly not.
--Catmendu
Catmandu
"gekko" <ge...@lutz.kicks-ass.org.INVALID> wrote in message
news:Xns970DB30E2...@217.68.187.32...
> Sunshine on my shoulders makes me happy. Posting
> news:n4lfn195qfkdgek39...@4ax.com to misc.writing makes
> Ivor Longhorn <longho...@gmail.com> happy ...
>
>
> > If you ever do, could you tag the message [NOT THE USUAL CLUELESS
> > FUCKING SHIT] so that I know not to skip the message?
>
> Netfuckingnanny
>
> --
> gekko
It's so hard to please everyone. Mebbe I'll post and let them choose one
from Column A and two from Column B and three from...and so on.
--Catmandu
Catmandu
WARNC is Belgian for cocksucker. He never used to talk like that.
--Catmandu
Pies de Arcilla
> Who the fuck are you? Do you have anything to say that isn't entirely
> witless?
>
> If you ever do, could you tag the message [NOT THE USUAL CLUELESS
> FUCKING SHIT] so that I know not to skip the message?
>
>
All of my messages are above average, and as insightful as I can
possibly make them.
I try to be original, too.
Robert
"Netfuckingnanny"
Netfuckinggranny.
--
Robbie
Josh Hill
wrote:
>
>Josh Hill wrote:
>> 'Claim: Former First Lady Barbara Bush said of the war in Iraq: "Why
>> should we hear about body bags and deaths? It's not relevant. So why
>> should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that?"
>>
>> 'Status: True.
>>
>
>She did say those words, apparently, and yet you lie when you quote
>her. How can that be?
It cannot be.
Now, shut the fuck up. You've managed in just two preternaturally
stupid sentences to discredit mankind for eternity.
>Well, for an example of honesty, reread the
>snopes page you linked to.
And from which I didn't originally get the quote, you less than half
regurgitated loon gizzard.
--
Josh
"I'm not going to play like I've been a person who's spent hours
involved with foreign policy. I am who I am." - George W. Bush
Josh Hill
wrote:
>
>"Pies de Arcilla" <dear...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:1131913599.4...@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> Josh Hill wrote:
>> > 'Claim: Former First Lady Barbara Bush said of the war in Iraq: "Why
>> > should we hear about body bags and deaths? It's not relevant. So why
>> > should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that?"
>> >
>> > 'Status: True.
>> >
>>
>> She did say those words, apparently, and yet you lie when you quote
>> her. How can that be? Well, for an example of honesty, reread the
>> snopes page you linked to.
>
>
>Pie, how dare you even hint that Josh Forrest Forrest Hill would knowingly
>quote a lie to fuel his unbridled hatred for the Office of the Presidency.
>Why, Josh's ancestry goes all the way back to George Washington and the
>cherry tree. It was Josh's great, great kin removed to the power of 15 who
>shoplifted the axe and gave it to young George to use.
You know, despite what you once surmised, I never really hated you.
Until now.
Catmandu
I think you're doing good pieman. You bring a certain unflavored blandness
to the group that we need here. As the small-minded bigot I am, I AM® proud
to know you.
Now, about "original". You need to work on that.
--Catmandu
Ivor Longhorn
<not.al...@mail.com> said:
I'd say things turned out exactly as I expected. An enormous fuckup
with lotsa corpses.
Josh Hill
wrote:
>Your third mistake was thinking.
Not one you're likely to make, I suspect.
Ivor Longhorn
<ge...@lutz.kicks-ass.org.INVALID> said:
>Sunshine on my shoulders makes me happy. Posting
>news:n4lfn195qfkdgek39...@4ax.com to misc.writing makes
>Ivor Longhorn <longho...@gmail.com> happy ...
>
>
>> If you ever do, could you tag the message [NOT THE USUAL CLUELESS
>> FUCKING SHIT] so that I know not to skip the message?
>
>Netfuckingnanny
It was a polite request.
Ivor Longhorn
<dear...@gmail.com> said:
>Ivor Longhorn wrote:
>> Who the fuck are you? Do you have anything to say that isn't entirely
>> witless?
>>
>> If you ever do, could you tag the message [NOT THE USUAL CLUELESS
>> FUCKING SHIT] so that I know not to skip the message?
>>
>>
>
>All of my messages are above average
Above average for what?
> and as insightful as I can
>possibly make them.
My advice, well meant and I hope well taken, would be to get out of
the insight business before you're run out of it. If you were selling
insight, you'd be living out of trashcans.
>I try to be original, too.
Try harder. HAND.
Catmandu
> Shazam! No reason, it's just magic. So "Pies de Arcilla"
> <dear...@gmail.com> said:
>
> >Ivor Longhorn wrote:
> >> Who the fuck are you? Do you have anything to say that isn't entirely
> >> witless?
> >>
> >> If you ever do, could you tag the message [NOT THE USUAL CLUELESS
> >> FUCKING SHIT] so that I know not to skip the message?
> >>
> >>
> >
> >All of my messages are above average
>
> Above average for what?
>
> > and as insightful as I can
> >possibly make them.
>
> My advice, well meant and I hope well taken, would be to get out of
> the insight business before you're run out of it. If you were selling
> insight, you'd be living out of trashcans.
>
> >I try to be original, too.
>
> Try harder. HAND.
>
>
Oh, don't listen to him Pies. He's not even an American like we are.
--Catmandu