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$Zero

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Nov 15, 2009, 5:09:12 PM11/15/09
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if your opinions are predictable...

then you probably don't have any.

-$Zero...

the joys of joy
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Piet de Arcilla

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Nov 15, 2009, 10:42:26 PM11/15/09
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On Nov 15, 5:09 pm, "$Zero" <zeroi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> if your opinions are predictable...
>
> then you probably don't have any.

If you've predicted the predictable have no opinions, then you've
failed to predict their opinions, which means their opinions are not
predictable. If they have any.

$Zero

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Nov 16, 2009, 1:25:32 AM11/16/09
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On Nov 15, 10:42 pm, Piet de Arcilla <dearci...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 15, 5:09 pm, "$Zero" <zeroi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > if your opinions are predictable...
>
> > then you probably don't have any.
>
> If you've predicted the predictable have no opinions,
> then you've failed to predict their opinions,

you can't fail at predicting opinions which don't exist.


> which means their opinions are not predictable.

yes they are.

it's just that they are the opinions of someone else.

there's two different definitions of the word opinion which apply
here.

>If they have any.

they don't.

you can't have an opinion unless you form it yourself.

those who merely parrot the opinions of others don't have any opinions
yet.

...

anyway, i said "probably".

as usual, my logic is flawless.

in my opinion.

-$Zero...

so why is everyone so fucking opinionated?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.writing/msg/fecebc2fcff998cb

Piet de Arcilla

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Nov 16, 2009, 6:34:58 PM11/16/09
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On Nov 16, 1:25 am, "$Zero" <zeroi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> you can't have an opinion unless you form it yourself.
>
> those who merely parrot the opinions of others don't have any opinions
> yet.

Even so, if someone doesn't have any opinions, you can't predict their
opinions. Therefore they don't have predictable opinions.

Suppose one day such a person comes up with their own opinion? It
certainly won't be what you expect, since you have no prior knowledge
of what they think.

$Zero

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Nov 16, 2009, 6:51:34 PM11/16/09
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On Nov 16, 6:34 pm, Piet de Arcilla <dearci...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 16, 1:25 am, "$Zero" <zeroi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > you can't have an opinion unless you form it yourself.
>
> > those who merely parrot the opinions of others don't have any opinions
> > yet.
>
> Even so, if someone doesn't have any opinions, you can't predict their
> opinions.

yes you can.

because they will parrot the opinions of someone who actually _has_
formed an opinion, or even more likely, they will parrot somebody who
_pretends_ to have formed said opinion.

take dittoheads for instance.

they don't have any real opinions, and yet you can easily predict what
they will offer up as opinions.

> Therefore they don't have predictable opinions.

yes they do.

> Suppose one day such a person comes up with their own opinion?

not likely at all.

because such people are way too easily brainwashed.

so they're not likely to ever do the kind of thinking that would lead
them to form an actual opinion of their own.

> It certainly won't be what you expect,

yikes.

> since you have no prior knowledge of what they think.

wrong.

you'd have enormous prior knowledge of what they "think".

see how that works?

yet more flawless logic from moi.

in my opinion.

-$Zero...

let's see where your head is at.
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