Fish Stories and Other Tales of the Sea (was: sumpthin' about Craigslist, but not fer long)
Sylvia
Ray Haddad <rha...@iexpress.net.au> wrote:
> Sylvia wrote:
> >So, Haddad, *what* rank were ya when you were on that USO tour? Oddly
> >enough, you never answered.
<...>
> I was an E-5 and later an E-6.
<...>
Huh. Then, *not* an officer, right? Coulda sworn ya said you were an
officer.
So, what what were yer duties as an alphanumeric pair? Swab decks? Hoist
mizzenmasts? Wake up and find yerself hangin' from the second highest
yardam? Shirley ya had some kind of title... Prevaricator Third Class?
For all yer braggin' about yer 22 year "military career", ya never have
mentioned what yer regular assigned duties were. Ever. Odd, innit.
--
Sylvia <--- The Supreme Ruler of MW
"Any old two=bit alleged ex-navy gob from lord knows
where, currently residing in Oz can get HIS knickers
in a knot just because somebody else comes up with a
contradictory opinion on what's happening. Is there
that to be dealt with AS WELL?"
- Miz ing, on Ray Haddad
boots
>In article <037vu2lfg2pjmms0t...@4ax.com>,
> Ray Haddad <rha...@iexpress.net.au> wrote:
><...>
>> I was an E-5 and later an E-6.
><...>
>
>Huh. Then, *not* an officer, right? Coulda sworn ya said you were an
>officer.
>
>So, what what were yer duties as an alphanumeric pair? Swab decks? Hoist
>mizzenmasts? Wake up and find yerself hangin' from the second highest
>yardam? Shirley ya had some kind of title... Prevaricator Third Class?
>
>For all yer braggin' about yer 22 year "military career", ya never have
>mentioned what yer regular assigned duties were. Ever. Odd, innit.
I heard a rumor that his duties were that of a parrot cook, mostly
plucking and boiling.
--
Subtlety written subtly can be subtly edited away.
Sylvia
> Sylvia wrote:
> > Ray Haddad <rha...@iexpress.net.au> wrote:
> ><...>
> >> I was an E-5 and later an E-6.
> ><...>
> >
> >Huh. Then, *not* an officer, right? Coulda sworn ya said you were an
> >officer.
> >
> >So, what what were yer duties as an alphanumeric pair? Swab decks? Hoist
> >mizzenmasts? Wake up and find yerself hangin' from the second highest
> >yardam? Shirley ya had some kind of title... Prevaricator Third Class?
> >
> >For all yer braggin' about yer 22 year "military career", ya never have
> >mentioned what yer regular assigned duties were. Ever. Odd, innit.
> I heard a rumor that his duties were that of a parrot cook, mostly
> plucking and boiling.
That explains the patch over one eye. So, wot duty did he draw after it
became obvious that he couldn't catch a parrot?
--
Sylvia <---- Supreme Ruler of MW & A Respectable Person of Bidness
Visit the MW Alphabet & Hat Emporium, Inc.
Conveniently located in downtown MW, near the Bridge of <Sigh>s
boots
>Mr. boots wrote:
>
>> Sylvia wrote:
>> > Ray Haddad <rha...@iexpress.net.au> wrote:
>
>> ><...>
>> >> I was an E-5 and later an E-6.
>> ><...>
>> >
>> >Huh. Then, *not* an officer, right? Coulda sworn ya said you were an
>> >officer.
>> >
>> >So, what what were yer duties as an alphanumeric pair? Swab decks? Hoist
>> >mizzenmasts? Wake up and find yerself hangin' from the second highest
>> >yardam? Shirley ya had some kind of title... Prevaricator Third Class?
>> >
>> >For all yer braggin' about yer 22 year "military career", ya never have
>> >mentioned what yer regular assigned duties were. Ever. Odd, innit.
>
>> I heard a rumor that his duties were that of a parrot cook, mostly
>> plucking and boiling.
>
>That explains the patch over one eye. So, wot duty did he draw after it
>became obvious that he couldn't catch a parrot?
I heard from the same source that he became an expert dwarf stomper.
Prolly not much call for that in civilian life.
Pies de Arcilla
Sylvia wrote:
> In article <037vu2lfg2pjmms0t...@4ax.com>,
> Ray Haddad <rha...@iexpress.net.au> wrote:
>
> > Sylvia wrote:
>
> > >So, Haddad, *what* rank were ya when you were on that USO tour? Oddly
> > >enough, you never answered.
>
> <...>
> > I was an E-5 and later an E-6.
> <...>
>
> Huh. Then, *not* an officer, right? Coulda sworn ya said you were an
> officer.
Ok, you are starting to appear both ignorant and obnoxious. A Petty
Officer is not an officer? Please explain.
Stan (the Man)
And, you are appearing simply ignorant (you passed obnoxious long ago).
When one refers to an officer in the military, they mean commissioned
officer (as opposed to an enlisted man), which in the Navy begins at
Ltjg. Petty officer is a naval enlisted rank, and a particularly low one
at that for someone with 22 yrs of service. An enlisted man with half a
brain will easily attain the rank of E-6 after 4 yrs of service.
--
Stan
Pies de Arcilla
<srkidLOSET...@verizon.netINVALID> wrote:
> Pies de Arcilla wrote:
> > Sylvia wrote:
> >> Ray Haddad <rhad...@iexpress.net.au> wrote:
>
> >>> Sylvia wrote:
> >>>> So, Haddad, *what* rank were ya when you were on that USO tour? Oddly
> >>>> enough, you never answered.
> >> <...>
> >>> I was an E-5 and later an E-6.
> >> <...>
>
> >> Huh. Then, *not* an officer, right? Coulda sworn ya said you were an
> >> officer.
>
> > Ok, you are starting to appear both ignorant and obnoxious. A Petty
> > Officer is not an officer? Please explain.
>
> And, you are appearing simply ignorant (you passed obnoxious long ago).
> When one refers to an officer in the military, they mean commissioned
> officer (as opposed to an enlisted man),
Ok, my mistake. I'm a Democrat, I don't know anything about the
military.
However, when did Ray say that he was "an officer in the military",
thus?
Pies de Arcilla
> at that for someone with 22 yrs of service. An enlisted man with half a
> brain will easily attain the rank of E-6 after 4 yrs of service.
He said he had that rank when he was on the USO tour. Maybe that was
after 4 years. Did he claim to have 22 years in at that point?
Stan (the Man)
> On Mar 19, 5:38 pm, "Stan (the Man)"
> <srkidLOSET...@verizon.netINVALID> wrote:
>> Pies de Arcilla wrote:
>>> Sylvia wrote:
>>>> In article <037vu2lfg2pjmms0tanq7rbk9ucfq52...@4ax.com>,
>>>> Ray Haddad <rhad...@iexpress.net.au> wrote:
>>>>> Sylvia wrote:
>>>>>> So, Haddad, *what* rank were ya when you were on that USO tour? Oddly
>>>>>> enough, you never answered.
>>>> <...>
>>>>> I was an E-5 and later an E-6.
>>>> <...>
>>>> Huh. Then, *not* an officer, right? Coulda sworn ya said you were an
>>>> officer.
>>> Ok, you are starting to appear both ignorant and obnoxious. A Petty
>>> Officer is not an officer? Please explain.
>> And, you are appearing simply ignorant (you passed obnoxious long ago).
>> When one refers to an officer in the military, they mean commissioned
>> officer (as opposed to an enlisted man),
>
Say no more.
> However, when did Ray say that he was "an officer in the military",
> thus?
Dunno. I read Sylvia's comment as more of a question than a statement.
And, I seem to recall him saying that, too, but, I could be wrong.
--
Stan
Stan (the Man)
He said he served for 22 years. As I said, that's a rather low rank for
that much time in the Navy. So, if he achieved E-6 in his 5th year and
rose no further, he was either a particularly dim bulb or quite the
little fuck up.
--
Stan
Alan Hope
Alan Hope
Why does it always have to be either/or?
Sylvia
"Pies de Arcilla" <dear...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Sylvia wrote:
> > In article <037vu2lfg2pjmms0t...@4ax.com>,
> > Ray Haddad <rha...@iexpress.net.au> wrote:
> > > Sylvia wrote:
> >
> > > >So, Haddad, *what* rank were ya when you were on that USO tour? Oddly
> > > >enough, you never answered.
> >
> > <...>
> > > I was an E-5 and later an E-6.
> > <...>
> >
> > Huh. Then, *not* an officer, right? Coulda sworn ya said you were an
> > officer.
>
> Ok, you are starting to appear both ignorant and obnoxious.
<petite yawn>
> A Petty Officer is not an officer?
No.
> Please explain.
No.
--
Sylvia <--- The Supreme Ruler of MW
"If a man is a fool the best thing to do is to
encourage him to advertise the fact by speaking."
- - Woodrow T. Wilson
Sylvia
.
<UNsnip!>
> >Pies de Arcilla wrote:
> >> Sylvia wrote:
> >>> Ray Haddad <rha...@iexpress.net.au> wrote:
> >>>> Sylvia wrote:
> >>>>> So, Haddad, *what* rank were ya when you were on that USO tour? Oddly
> >>>>> enough, you never answered.
> >>> <...>
> >>>> I was an E-5 and later an E-6.
> >>> <...>
>
> >>> Huh. Then, *not* an officer, right? Coulda sworn ya said you were an
> >>> officer.
>
> >> Ok, you are starting to appear both ignorant and obnoxious. A Petty
> >> Officer is not an officer? Please explain.
> >And, you are appearing simply ignorant (you passed obnoxious long ago).
> >When one refers to an officer in the military, they mean commissioned
> >officer (as opposed to an enlisted man), which in the Navy begins at
> >Ltjg. Petty officer is a naval enlisted rank,
/UNsnip!>
> >and a particularly low one at that for someone with 22 yrs of
> >service. An enlisted man with half a brain will easily attain the
> >rank of E-6 after 4 yrs of service.
Yeah!
> He said he had that rank when he was on the USO tour.
That's prolly cause I asked "So, Haddad, *what* rank were ya when you
were on that USO tour?" See up there ^ , what ya snipped?
> Maybe that was after 4 years. Did he claim to have 22 years in at that point?
Irrelephant. I didn't ask Haddad if he had been an officer. Mr. Stan
showed why you were wrong to say that I had been wrong, so you snipped
all that to argue a point that no one made, and ya snipped my real
question to Haddad:
> >>> So, what what were yer duties as an alphanumeric pair? Swab decks? Hoist
> >>> mizzenmasts? Wake up and find yerself hangin' from the second highest
> >>> yardam? Shirley ya had some kind of title... Prevaricator Third Class?
> >>>
> >>> For all yer braggin' about yer 22 year "military career", ya never have
> >>> mentioned what yer regular assigned duties were. Ever. Odd, innit.
Yer just ticked 'cause you can't answer it. Neener!
NEXT!
--
Sylvia <--- The Supreme Ruler of MW
"If a man is a fool the best thing to do is to
Sylvia
> Stan (the Man) goes:
>
> >Pies de Arcilla wrote:
> >> On Mar 19, 5:38 pm, "Stan (the Man)"
.
> >>> and a particularly low one
> >>> at that for someone with 22 yrs of service. An enlisted man with half a
> >>> brain will easily attain the rank of E-6 after 4 yrs of service.
>
> >> He said he had that rank when he was on the USO tour. Maybe that was
> >> after 4 years. Did he claim to have 22 years in at that point?
>
> >He said he served for 22 years. As I said, that's a rather low rank for
> >that much time in the Navy. So, if he achieved E-6 in his 5th year and
> >rose no further, he was either a particularly dim bulb or quite the
> >little fuck up.
The (Comfy) Chair recognizes Mr. Hope!
<waving>
Hiya, Mr. Hope! You got a point of order for us?
> Why does it always have to be either/or?
<whacking gavel>
[WHACK!] [WHACK!] [WHACK!]
<chortle!>
[WHACK!]
I *love* my job! Ahem... resolved that the last sentence shall now read
as:
"So, if he achieved E-6 in his 5th year and rose no further,
he was either a particularly dim bulb or quite the little
fuck up--then again, Haddad most likely managed to be both."
This meetin' is adjourned!
[WHACK!] [WHACK!] [WHACK!]
<chortle!>
--
Sylvia <--- The Supreme Ruler of MW
"I seriously envy Sylvia. I hope I wake up
tomorrow morning completely and totally Sylvia."
- Lark/"Holly"/Leslie Harder/Gladys/et al. in MW
Sylvia
"Pies de Arcilla" <dear...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "Stan (the Man)" wrote:
> > Pies de Arcilla wrote:
> > > Sylvia wrote:
> > >> Ray Haddad <rhad...@iexpress.net.au> wrote:
> >
> > >>> Sylvia wrote:
> > >>>> So, Haddad, *what* rank were ya when you were on that USO tour? Oddly
> > >>>> enough, you never answered.
> > >> <...>
> > >>> I was an E-5 and later an E-6.
> > >> <...>
> >
> > >> Huh. Then, *not* an officer, right? Coulda sworn ya said you were an
> > >> officer.
> >
> > > Ok, you are starting to appear both ignorant and obnoxious. A Petty
> > > Officer is not an officer? Please explain.
> >
> > And, you are appearing simply ignorant (you passed obnoxious long ago).
> > When one refers to an officer in the military, they mean commissioned
> > officer (as opposed to an enlisted man),
>
> Ok, my mistake.
Of course it was. What the hell were ya thinkin'?
> I'm a Democrat, I don't know anything about the military.
That's a rather stupid remark, any way you look at it.
> However,
Don't start yer sentences with "however", dammit.
> when did Ray say that he was "an officer in the military",
> thus?
Hello? LOOKIT ----> "Huh. Then, *not* an officer, right?"
The real question for Haddad is:
"So, what what were yer duties as an alphanumeric pair?"
--
Sylvia <--- The Supreme Ruler of MW
"If a man is a fool the best thing to do is to
Sylvia
.
> Pies de Arcilla wrote:
> > "Stan (the Man)" wrote:
> >> Pies de Arcilla wrote:
> >>> Sylvia wrote:
> >>>> Ray Haddad <rhad...@iexpress.net.au> wrote:
.
> >>>>>> So, Haddad, *what* rank were ya when you were on that USO tour? Oddly
> >>>>>> enough, you never answered.
> >>>> <...>
> >>>>> I was an E-5 and later an E-6.
> >>>> <...>
> >>>> Huh. Then, *not* an officer, right? Coulda sworn ya said you were an
> >>>> officer.
> >>> Ok, you are starting to appear both ignorant and obnoxious. A Petty
> >>> Officer is not an officer? Please explain.
> >> And, you are appearing simply ignorant (you passed obnoxious long ago).
> >> When one refers to an officer in the military, they mean commissioned
> >> officer (as opposed to an enlisted man),
> >
> > Ok, my mistake. I'm a Democrat, <...>
>
> Say no more.
>
> > However, when did Ray say that he was "an officer in the military",
> > thus?
>
> Dunno. I read Sylvia's comment as more of a question than a statement.
Well, yeah, but that's because you *can* read.
> And, I seem to recall him saying that, too, but, I could be wrong.
We shall await verification.
<checking watch>
Strange. Haddad's breakin' his pattern of rapid fire replies.
--
Sylvia <--- The Supreme Ruler of MW
"All power corrupts. Absolute power is kinda neat though."
Sylvia
Well, I'll bet *that* didn't last very long either. Sure, Haddad would
prefer to pick on someone a whole lot smaller than he is, but I hear
them dwarves are tuff-esque stuff. Guess he didn't know that they carry
huge hatchets.
--
Sylvia <--- The Supreme Ruler of MW
"People don't mess with you when you're quitting smoking.
A guy at work tried to mess with me and I said, 'If I
squint my eyes, you look just like a Marlboro, and I'm
thinking about snatching you up, setting your hair on fire,
and smoking your head.'
"Some men, however, find that kinky and not threatening."
- Miz deMedicis in MW, Day Nine w/o nicotine
boots
>..., but, I could be wrong.
Holy schneikes, I think my newsreader is hallucinating.
boots
>, he was either a particularly dim bulb or quite the
>little fuck up.
I've lost track here, who're ya talking about Stan? It sounds like
Ray...
Stan (the Man)
> "Stan (the Man)" <srkidL...@verizon.netINVALID> wrote:
>
>> , he was either a particularly dim bulb or quite the
>> little fuck up.
>
> I've lost track here, who're ya talking about Stan? It sounds like
> Ray...
It's a catch-all. Feel free.
--
Stan
Pies de Arcilla
> In article <1174341331.3...@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
> "Pies de Arcilla" <dear...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I'm a Democrat, I don't know anything about the military.
>
> That's a rather stupid remark, any way you look at it.
Oh, I don't think it's stupid to admit one's ignorance. Wouldn't
the world be nicer if more people did?
Sylvia
"Alan Hope" <not.al...@mail.com> wrote in message
news:or2uv2tq6hgvdevau...@4ax.com...
So, I'm wondering: what will it take to make you several cyber bullies
declare victory? Will you win if your victim cries? If he commits suicide?
Or... (other?)
Also, I'm wondering: what makes you do this? Do you know?
Ray Haddad
and "Sylvia" <Syl...@CliffhangerREMOVE.com> instead replied:
>"Alan Hope" <not.al...@mail.com> wrote in message
>news:or2uv2tq6hgvdevau...@4ax.com...
>> Stan (the Man) goes:
>>
>>>Pies de Arcilla wrote:
>>>> On Mar 19, 5:38 pm, "Stan (the Man)"
>>>>> and a particularly low one
>>>>> at that for someone with 22 yrs of service. An enlisted man with half a
>>>>> brain will easily attain the rank of E-6 after 4 yrs of service.
>>
>>>> He said he had that rank when he was on the USO tour. Maybe that was
>>>> after 4 years. Did he claim to have 22 years in at that point?
>>
>>>He said he served for 22 years. As I said, that's a rather low rank for
>>>that much time in the Navy. So, if he achieved E-6 in his 5th year and
>>>rose no further, he was either a particularly dim bulb or quite the
>>>little fuck up.
>>
>> Why does it always have to be either/or?
>>
>So, I'm wondering: what will it take to make you several cyber bullies
>declare victory? Will you win if your victim cries? If he commits suicide?
>Or... (other?)
They are the arbiters of all they survey. Or so they think. I know
otherwise. If they face reality, so do they.
>Also, I'm wondering: what makes you do this? Do you know?
Because they fear me. I threaten them somehow by my existence. The
only way they can prove otherwise is to thump their collective
chests declaring themselves superior being. In itself, that makes
them inferior but the irony of that seems to escape them.
--
Ray
Alan Hope
>So, I'm wondering: what will it take to make you several cyber bullies
>declare victory? Will you win if your victim cries? If he commits suicide?
>Or... (other?)
What's it to you? Why do you wear a hood over your head? Why not show
your face? Am I not showing mine?
>Also, I'm wondering: what makes you do this? Do you know?
Why don't you shut the fuck up? How long can a questional dialogue go
on? Is there a point where an answer is required? Who would ever know?
Has it been tested? Are we nearly there yet?
gekko
> Sylvia wrote:
>> In article <1174341331.392970.298970
@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
>> "Pies de Arcilla" <dear...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
> [...]
>> > I'm a Democrat, I don't know anything about the military.
>>
>> That's a rather stupid remark, any way you look at it.
>
> Oh, I don't think it's stupid to admit one's ignorance. Wouldn't
> the world be nicer if more people did?
>
It would also be nicer if people who admittedly "don't know anything
about the military" would refrain from refering to someone else as
"starting to appear both ignorant and obnoxious" when discussing the
very military things about which you know nothing.
Don't you agree?
--
gekko
Stress is when you wake up screaming & you realize you haven't fallen
asleep yet.
gekko
> So, I'm wondering: what will it take to make you several cyber
> bullies declare victory? Will you win if your victim cries? If
> he commits suicide? Or... (other?)
>
> Also, I'm wondering: what makes you do this? Do you know?
You do, Poppinjay. You make us do this. We want so much to please
you.
Sylvia
I used to be Lark until Sylvia pointed out (at very great length) that there
is no such thing as author's rights in Usenet at which I decided to go on a
spree and help myself to anything that I wanted to use, regardless of
whether anyone thought of it as her own.
"Alan Hope" is asking me who I really am? From what vantage?
Alan Hope, or whoever you are, you are behaving as part of a barking,
bullying pack. It is unattractive as you well and truly must realize. And
now you are shooting the messenger, whoever I am.
.
Sylvia
Leslie Harder/Gladys/Holly/CrazyJane/Poppinjay/et al.,
the poster currently known as "Lark" <La...@posttogroup.thanks>
WHO WORSHIPS:
<signaling the (Official) Heralds>
<flourish of horns>
"Her Most Noble Lady (Miz) Sylvia, The Supreme Ruler of MW!"
WROTE:
"I seriously envy Sylvia. I hope I wake up
tomorrow morning completely and totally Sylvia."
- Lark/"Holly"/Leslie Harder/Gladys/et al. in MW
And, having lost hold of her pitiful, confused identities, she decided
to go for the gold and posted (again) as "Sylvia"--and she wrote:
<...>
<UNsnip!>
> The One True Sylvia, Supremer Ruler of MW
> Whose BIRTHDAY is next month! April 23rd! wrote:
<(delicately) nibbling on tasty carrot stick>
> > So, what what were yer duties as an alphanumeric pair? Swab decks? Hoist
> > mizzenmasts? Wake up and find yerself hangin' from the second highest
> > yardam? Shirley ya had some kind of title... Prevaricator Third Class?
> >
> > For all yer braggin' about yer 22 year "military career", ya never have
> > mentioned what yer regular assigned duties were. Ever. Odd, innit.
</UNsnip!>
> So, I'm wondering: what will it take to make you several cyber bullies
> declare victory? Will you win if your victim cries? If he commits suicide?
> Or... (other?)
<shaking carrot stick at She Who Worships ME>
Shamey! Shamey! Shamey! How dare ya suggest such a thing about Haddad!
Hasn't he told us how, with total disregard for his own safety, he
devoted himself to the
PROTECTION OF THE USA for 22 (twenty-two) years.
Gawd, Crazy Jane, yer dissin' a self-proclaimed
NAVY VETERAN and WAR HERO!
What? Ya think Haddad's gonna *cry* 'cause someone asked him what his
duties were durin' his
GLORIOUS MILITARY CAREER?!
There's no cryin' in the Navy!
What kind of a sad-ass, chicken-shit smear of slime would agree with you
that havin' a Person of the Petite Persuasion asking what his duties
were in the Navy is justification for cryin', "WAH! I'm bein' pushed to
the point of suicide by cyber bullies!"? Certainly not Haddad, the
self-described
NAVY VETERAN and WAR HERO!
> Also, I'm wondering: what makes you do this? Do you know?
<nodding>
Yes, I do.
--
Sylvia <--- The Supreme Ruler of MW *and*
Sole Heir to the VAST FORTUNE
of great-aunt Catherine!
(NEENER!)
ACCEPT NO SUBSTITUTES!
boots
>
>"Alan Hope" <not.al...@mail.com> wrote in message
>news:ic11031hjq94b08e0...@4ax.com...
>> Sylvia goes:
>>
>>>So, I'm wondering: what will it take to make you several cyber bullies
>>>declare victory? Will you win if your victim cries? If he commits
>>>suicide?
>>>Or... (other?)
>>
>> What's it to you? Why do you wear a hood over your head? Why not show
>> your face? Am I not showing mine?
>>
>>>Also, I'm wondering: what makes you do this? Do you know?
>>
>> Why don't you shut the fuck up? How long can a questional dialogue go
>> on? Is there a point where an answer is required? Who would ever know?
>> Has it been tested? Are we nearly there yet?
>>
>>
>> --
>> Alan Hope
>> http://sour-grapes.tumblr.com/
>
>I used to be Lark until Sylvia pointed out (at very great length) that there
>is no such thing as author's rights in Usenet at which I decided to go on a
>spree and help myself to anything that I wanted to use, regardless of
>whether anyone thought of it as her own.
It would be swell if you'd pick an unused identity and stick with it.
Sylvia
Leslie Harder/Gladys/Holly/CrazyJane/Poppinjay/et al.,
the poster currently known as "Lark" <L...@posttogroup.thanks>
WHO WORSHIPS:
<signaling the (Official) Heralds>
<flourish of horns>
"Her Most Noble Lady (Miz) Sylvia, The Supreme Ruler of MW!"
WROTE:
"I seriously envy Sylvia. I hope I wake up
tomorrow morning completely and totally Sylvia."
- Lark/"Holly"/Leslie Harder/Gladys/et al. in MW
And, having lost hold of her pitiful, confused identities, she decided
to go for the gold and post (again) as "Sylvia"--and she wrote:
<...>
> >So, I'm wondering: what will it take to make you several cyber bullies
> >declare victory? Will you win if your victim cries? If he commits suicide?
> >Or... (other?)
(Earlier on our show I replied:)
"What kind of a sad-ass, chicken-shit smear of slime
would agree with you that havin' a Person of the Petite
Persuasion asking what his duties were in the Navy is
justification for cryin', "WAH! I'm bein' pushed to the
point of suicide by cyber bullies!"? Certainly not Haddad,
the self-described
NAVY VETERAN and WAR HERO! "
> They are the arbiters of all they survey. Or so they think. I know
> otherwise.
O.M.G.! Could Haddad, self-proclaimed
U.S. NAVY VETERAN and WAR HERO
be afraid to answer a simple question regarding some of his posts?
<weeping!>
He appears to be a sad-ass, chicken-shit smear of slime after all!
<wailing!>
Oh, say it ain't so!
> If they face reality, so do they.
Sig! DIBS!
> >Also, I'm wondering: what makes you do this? Do you know?
>
> Because they fear me.
<koff!> So, that would make you *cry*?
> I threaten them somehow by my existence.
So, yer sayin' that that would make ya commit suicide? Yo! Fear Boy!
Feel free to answer my question about yer existence in the Navy.
> The only way they can prove otherwise
Prove *what* otherwise? That yer post ain't threatening anyone? Was that
even a question?
> is to thump their collective chests
> declaring themselves superior being.
Ummmmm... like a holy trinity all wrapped up in one or sumpthin? Haddad,
yer meltin' down, right?
> In itself, that makes them inferior but the irony of that seems to escape them.
"Ah, but the strawberries! That's, that's
where I had them!"
-- Captain Queege
'K, logic dug a tunnel and left ya a long time ago. Any chance you
could answer the following question without crying or slittin' yer
wrists (not over MY nice wood floors yer ain't!).
Here. I'll repeat what I posted to ya.
Huh. Then, *not* an officer, right? Coulda sworn ya said you were an
officer.
So, what what were yer duties as an alphanumeric pair? Swab decks? Hoist
mizzenmasts? Wake up and find yerself hangin' from the second highest
yardam? Shirley ya had some kind of title... Prevaricator Third Class?
For all yer braggin' about yer 22 year "military career", ya never have
mentioned what yer regular assigned duties were. Ever. Odd, innit.
--
Sylvia <--- The Supreme Ruler of MW *and*
Sole Heir to the VAST FORTUNE
of great-aunt Catherine!
(NEENER!)
"well, let's see now, was that a simple "Yes" to
the question or not?
"of course, being the delusional dishonest evil
piece of shit coward that you are, nobody expects
you to answer ANY question directly."
-- Mr. $Zero to Ray Haddad
Sylvia
The Wanna Be "Sylvia" (Leslie Harder/Gladys/Holly/CrazyJane/Poppinjay/et
al., the poster currently known as "Lark" <La...@posttogroup.thanks>)
wrote:
> >"Alan Hope" wrote:
> >> Sylvia goes:
> >>>So, I'm wondering: what will it take to make you several cyber bullies
> >>>declare victory? Will you win if your victim cries? If he commits
> >>>suicide?
> >>>Or... (other?)
> >> What's it to you? Why do you wear a hood over your head?
<whispering>
Sock, not "hood". I'm pretty sure that's a sock there she's attemptin'
to wear... it's just weirdly stretched out and clumsy-esque lookin'
'cause she tried to wear a Petite One. Idjit. It sez right there on the
label stickin' out, "WARNING! ACTUAL (PETITE) SIZE!" (no, don't tell
her--don't say nothin' about the spinach stickin' between her front
teeth, neither, 'K? <chortle!>).
</whispering>
> Why not show your face?
Gawd, let's not get carried away here.
> Am I not showing mine?
OIC. Never mind.
> >>>Also, I'm wondering: what makes you do this? Do you know?
.
> >> Why don't you shut the fuck up? How long can a questional dialogue go
> >> on? Is there a point where an answer is required? Who would ever know?
> >> Has it been tested? Are we nearly there yet?
<tugging on Mr. Hope's sleeve>
<whispering>
Miz Doyle sez she's gotta go bafroom!
</whispering>
Ooooooh! Lookit! "Le Peep, 1 (one) mile ahead, Exit 47"!
<tugging harder on Mr. Hope's sleeve>
Can we stop at the Le Peep? Can we? Huh? Pleeeeeaze, Mr. Hope?! I *love*
their Fr*nch toast!
> >I used to be Lark until
"... That sock got downgraded to A Bit O' Usenet Lint so nobody cared
when I squeaked and the Supreme Ruler was kickin' someone else's butt."
> Sylvia pointed out (at very great length)
<blink!>
Did I? Ya'd think I'd remember postin' sumpthin' like that.
<considering>
Ya think she meant just "at very great length" or at very great length
even for:
<signaling the (Official) Heralds>
<flourish of horns>
Sylvia <--- The Supreme Ruler of MW *and*
Sole Heir to the VAST FORTUNE
of great-aunt Catherine!
(NEENER!)
? 'Cause that sure would make...
<watching an upside down Sir Harvey hanging on to his
petite rope hoop by one cute foot and swingin' back and forth>
... a diff--ummm... LOOKIT my Baby Parrot!!! Isn't he *most* amusin'?!
Gawd, he's got strong feets! <chortle!> Sumtimes he'll hang on by
just his beak!
> that there
> >is no such thing as author's rights in Usenet at which I decided to go on a
> >spree and help myself to anything that I wanted to use, regardless of
> >whether anyone thought of it as her own.
SHADDAP and lissen! Sir Harvey's <CHORTLE!>ing!
<chortle!>
> It would be swell if you'd pick an unused identity and stick with it.
OOOOOOH! Pick mine! Pick mine! Pick mine! The Sweeps are comin' up and I
could always use more WORSHIPFUL advertising!
<preening>
Of ALL identities in Usenet EVER (and, word has it that that bit o'
lint's been around), and she picks MINE as the one she MOST wants to
"completely and totally" be like!
"I seriously envy Sylvia. I hope I wake up
tomorrow morning completely and totally Sylvia."
- Lark/"Holly"/Leslie Harder/Gladys/Crazy Jane/et al. in MW
Neener!
'Course, she's gonna hav to do a less crude-esque job at it. I mean, she
copied my name and my MW addy, but right off the bat she's JUST gotta
change her postin' headers to reflect MY glory. She's got:
"Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com
X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869"
Hello? Everyone knows that MY Organization oughta read:
"Organization: MW Alphabet & Hat Emporium, LLC"
And, GAWD! I wouldn't be caught dead usin' microsoft-ANYTHING, let alone
Outlook Express. Mr. Hope, please tell her that the correct answer is:
"User-Agent: MT-NewsWatcher/3.5.1 (Intel Mac OS X)"
<considering>
Tell her that there will be a pop quiz.... and, that neatness counts...
and, no copyin' off of anyone else's page except, of course, for that
of:
<signaling the (Official) Heralds>
<flourish of horns>
"Her Most Noble Lady (Miz) Sylvia, The Supreme Ruler of MW!"
Thenkyew.
--
Sylvia <--- The Supreme Ruler of MW *and*
Sole Heir to the VAST FORTUNE
of great-aunt Catherine!
(NEENER!)
"All Hail Sylvia, Supreme Ruler of MW,
Queen of Google and Petite Person!"
- Mr. Stan in MW
Sylvia
The ONE TRUE Miz Sylvia ( <---- that's ME!) wrote:
> Mr. boots wrote:
<...>
Ummm... "Mr. Hope wrote", not "Mr. boots wrote". Sorry about that. For
the rest of my post, though, I *do* (correctly) address Mr. Hope...
I win *somethin'* for that, right? Partial Credit?
--
Sylvia <--- The Supreme Ruler of MW *and*
Sole Heir to the VAST FORTUNE
of great-aunt Catherine!
(NEENER!)
"Truth, fiction, plots, twists, turns, complications,
heroes, antagonists, climaxes -- and sometimes we
even talk about writing...!"
- MR FRM on Life in MW
Ray Haddad
and Sylvia <Syl...@cliffhangerREMOVE.com> instead replied:
>For all yer braggin' about yer 22 year "military career", ya never have
>mentioned what yer regular assigned duties were. Ever. Odd, innit.
So? Have you ever mentioned yours? Aside from being petite, what
other claim to fame do you have?
--
Ray
boots
Yer makin me snore agin, stoppit.
Pies de Arcilla
> It would also be nicer if people who admittedly "don't know anything
> about the military" would refrain from refering to someone else as
> "starting to appear both ignorant and obnoxious" when discussing the
> very military things about which you know nothing.
I thought she didn't even know what an "alphanumeric pair" meant.
John Ashby
I wonder if everyone who can fiddle with their newsreader should post as
Sylvia next Sunday week.
john (*not* Spartacus)
Sylvia
> Sylvia wrote:
> > Mr. boots wrote:
> > The Wanna Be "Sylvia" (Leslie
> > Harder/Gladys/Holly/CrazyJane/Poppinjay/et al., the poster currently
> > known as "Lark" <La...@posttogroup.thanks>) wrote:
> >> >"Alan Hope" wrote:
The NOT (Real)
> >> >> Sylvia goes:
.
<...>
> > Ooooooh! Lookit! "Le Peep, 1 (one) mile ahead, Exit 47"!
> > .
> > <tugging harder on Mr. Hope's sleeve>
> >.
> > Can we stop at the Le Peep? Can we? Huh? Pleeeeeaze, Mr. Hope?! I
> > *love* their Fr*nch toast!
.
> >> >I used to be Lark until
.
> > "... That sock got downgraded to A Bit O' Usenet Lint so nobody cared
> > when I squeaked and the Supreme Ruler was kickin' someone else's
> > butt."
<...>
> >> It would be swell if you'd pick an unused identity and stick with it.
> > OOOOOOH! Pick mine! Pick mine! Pick mine! The Sweeps are comin' up and
> > I could always use more WORSHIPFUL advertising!
> > .
> > <preening>
> > .
> > Of ALL identities in Usenet EVER (and, word has it that that bit o'
> > lint's been around), and she picks MINE as the one she MOST wants to
> > "completely and totally" be like!
.
> I wonder if everyone who can fiddle with their newsreader should post as
> Sylvia next Sunday week.
<scampering about with joy>!
Oooh! That would be *most* splendorificious! THEN no one could deny that
I am:
<signaling the (Official) Heralds>
<flourish of horns>
"Her Most Noble Lady (Miz) Sylvia,
The Supreme Ruler of MW!"
> john (*not* Spartacus)
'Course you ain't, 'cause...
<signaling the (UN-Official) Heralds>
<flourish of kazoos>
*I* am SPARTACUS!
--
Sylvia <--- The Supreme Ruler of MW
"I seriously envy Sylvia. I hope I wake up
tomorrow morning completely and totally Sylvia."
- Lark/"Holly"/Leslie Harder/Gladys/et al. in MW
Sylvia
Ray Haddad <rha...@iexpress.net.au> wrote:
> Sylvia wrote:
<humming a lively tune>
<UNsnip!>
> > O.M.G.! Could Haddad, self-proclaimed
> >
> > U.S. NAVY VETERAN and WAR HERO
> >
> > be afraid to answer a simple question regarding some of his posts?
> >
> > <weeping!> >
> >
> > He appears to be a sad-ass, chicken-shit smear of slime after all!
</UNsnip!>
> > For all yer braggin' about yer 22 year "military career", ya never have
> > mentioned what yer regular assigned duties were. Ever. Odd, innit.
> So? Have you ever mentioned yours?
<laughing>
I have never claimed to be a
HEROIC 22-YEAR NAVY VETERAN
and
DEFENDER OF THE FREE WORLD
as you have bragged that you were. I've never even as much as implied
that I served in the military.
> Aside from being petite, what other claim to fame do you have?
I'm glad you asked. I am:
<signaling the (Official) Heralds>
<flourish of horns>
Sylvia <--- The Supreme Ruler of MW *and*
Sole Heir to the VAST FORTUNE
of great-aunt Catherine!
(NEENER!)
Oh, dear! Lookit! There's another time ya managed to forget to answer
one petite question... s'matter? Did it really make ya cry?
Ooooh! What POWER! Never underestimate a Person of the Petite Persuasion!
<UNsnip!>
> > Huh. Then, *not* an officer, right? Coulda sworn ya said you were an
> > officer.
> >
> > So, what what were yer duties as an alphanumeric pair? Swab decks? Hoist
> > mizzenmasts? Wake up and find yerself hangin' from the second highest
> > yardam? Shirley ya had some kind of title... Prevaricator Third Class?
</UNsnip!>
"What kind of a sad-ass, chicken-shit smear of slime
would agree with you that havin' a Person of the Petite
Persuasion asking what his duties were in the Navy is
justification for cryin', 'WAH! I'm bein' pushed to the
point of suicide by cyber bullies!'?"
-- Petite Miz Sylvia, The Supreme Ruler
--
Sylvia <--- The Supreme Ruler of MW
"well, let's see now, was that a simple "Yes" to
Sylvia
> "Stan (the Man)" wrote:
>
> >, he was either a particularly dim bulb or quite the
> >little fuck up.
>
> I've lost track here, who're ya talking about Stan? It sounds like
> Ray...
If it quacks like a Haddad...
--
Sylvia <--- The Supreme Ruler of MW
"Women still know their place. Take my place, for
instance. It's wherever the fuck I want it to be."
- Miz PJ in MW
Sylvia
<...>
> Yer makin me snore agin, stoppit.
Oh, fer gawd's sake!
<pawing through MW (Official) Recreational Center
Library bookshelves>
Here. Read MacMurty's _The Evening Star_ and report back.
And, DON'T EVEN try to get away with watchin' the stupid movie; they
took such license that they might have well have only bought the rights
to the title.
--
Sylvia <---- Supreme Ruler of MW & A Respectable Person of Bidness
Visit the MW Alphabet & Hat Emporium, Inc.
Conveniently located in downtown MW, near the Bridge of <Sigh>s
Ray Haddad
and Sylvia <Syl...@cliffhangerREMOVE.com> instead replied:
>I have never claimed to be a
>
> HEROIC 22-YEAR NAVY VETERAN
>
> and
>
> DEFENDER OF THE FREE WORLD
Those are your words. Remember that. I don't have to answer for your
words. Remember that.
--
Ray
Alan Hope
>"Alan Hope" <not.al...@mail.com> wrote in message
>news:ic11031hjq94b08e0...@4ax.com...
>> Sylvia goes:
>>>So, I'm wondering: what will it take to make you several cyber bullies
>>>declare victory? Will you win if your victim cries? If he commits
>>>suicide?
>>>Or... (other?)
>> What's it to you? Why do you wear a hood over your head? Why not show
>> your face? Am I not showing mine?
>>>Also, I'm wondering: what makes you do this? Do you know?
>> Why don't you shut the fuck up? How long can a questional dialogue go
>> on? Is there a point where an answer is required? Who would ever know?
>> Has it been tested? Are we nearly there yet?
>I used to be Lark until Sylvia pointed out (at very great length) that there
>is no such thing as author's rights in Usenet at which I decided to go on a
>spree and help myself to anything that I wanted to use, regardless of
>whether anyone thought of it as her own.
LIGAF
>"Alan Hope" is asking me who I really am? From what vantage?
What a stupid question.
>Alan Hope, or whoever you are, you are behaving as part of a barking,
>bullying pack. It is unattractive as you well and truly must realize. And
>now you are shooting the messenger, whoever I am.
Good. Lie down and die.
$Zero
>Sylvia <Syl...@cliffhangerREMOVE.com> instead replied:
>
> >I have never claimed to be a
>
> > HEROIC 22-YEAR NAVY VETERAN
>
> > and
>
> > DEFENDER OF THE FREE WORLD
>
> Those are your words. Remember that.
dishonest, delusional, cowardly evil liar.
remember *that*?
(RQ).
> I don't have to answer for your words.
Q: Ray, do you have to answer for your own words?
> Remember that.
Q: Ray, would you like to learn a major fucking lesson?
Ray: "Give it your best shot you idiot [sic]"
remember *that*?
(rhetorical question).
-$Zero...
"Man is a rational animal
who always loses his temper
when called upon to act
in accordance with
the dictates of reason."
-- Orson Welles
Pies de Arcilla
Sylvia wrote:
> Zero wrote:
> ...delusional dishonest evil piece of shit coward that you are,...
This is just a _little_ overwrought. The 'evil' part, I mean.
Ray Haddad
and Alan Hope <not.al...@mail.com> instead replied:
>Good. Lie down and die.
When you wrote that to P, he took you seriously. No, seriously.
--
Ray
gekko
'k. I'll bite. Is there some hidden meaning in it? Something
other than "a pair of characters that can range from [A-z][0-9]?
gekko
> Lie down and die
She's done that one already. Make her rise bodily to heaven. 'k?
gekko
And peeps used to bitch about the length of *my* attribution lines!
Money talks. Sylvia <Syl...@cliffhangerREMOVE.com> posts this:
> Leslie Harder/Gladys/Holly/CrazyJane/Poppinjay/et al.,
> the poster currently known as "Lark" <L...@posttogroup.thanks>
>
> WHO WORSHIPS:
>
> <signaling the (Official) Heralds>
>
> <flourish of horns>
>
> "Her Most Noble Lady (Miz) Sylvia, The Supreme Ruler of MW!"
>
> WROTE:
>
> "I seriously envy Sylvia. I hope I wake up
> tomorrow morning completely and totally Sylvia."
>
> - Lark/"Holly"/Leslie Harder/Gladys/et al. in MW
>
> And, having lost hold of her pitiful, confused identities, she
> decided to go for the gold and post (again) as "Sylvia"--and she
> wrote:
Ray Haddad
and gekko <ge...@lutz.kicks-ass.org.INVALID> instead replied:
>And peeps used to bitch about the length of *my* attribution lines!
See where a bit of compulsive obsession gets you?
--
Ray
Alan Hope
You're despicable.
B--
"John Ashby" <J.V....@rl.ac.uk> wrote in message
news:etriv2$lm8$1...@south.jnrs.ja.net...
>snipity snip snip snip
>>
>
> I wonder if everyone who can fiddle with their newsreader should
> post as
> Sylvia next Sunday week.
>
> john (*not* Spartacus)
I think we should all post as Syvlia, just for the hack of it.
--
Beth
"As for representing MW, how can anyone represent anarchy and
chaos?" - Robert Marcom
gekko
Bitchy peeps?
Oh, like things're any different. Pshaw.
Ray Haddad
and Alan Hope <not.al...@mail.com> instead replied:
>Ray Haddad goes:
>
>>On Wed, 21 Mar 2007 20:09:57 +0100, I said, "Pick a card, any card"
>>and Alan Hope <not.al...@mail.com> instead replied:
>
>>>Good. Lie down and die.
>
>>When you wrote that to P, he took you seriously. No, seriously.
>
>You're despicable.
Oh, dear. After you wish someone else dead, you have absolutely no
room to make such a comment you buffoon.
--
Ray
Sylvia
Ray Haddad <rha...@iexpress.net.au> wrote:
.
<...>
> See where a bit of compulsive obsession gets you?
> --
> Ray
See what a dodgy education got him?
--
Sylvia <--- The Supreme Ruler of MW
"As you wish, with your miniscule brain, sense, and testicles.
And smaller yet, I'd say invisible, thought, wit or principles."
- Miz Christine to Ray Haddad
$Zero
> Ray Haddad goes:
> >Alan Hope <not.alan.h...@mail.com> instead replied:
>
> >>Good. Lie down and die.
>
> >When you wrote that to P, he took you seriously. No, seriously.
>
> You're despicable.
Ray must think that he's obliged to excel at something, anything.
even if it's cruel, pathetic, despicable, and/or evil.
spit.
-$Zero...
Ray Haddad
"$Zero" <ze...@whooooooosh.com> instead replied:
Maybe you'd care to explain why it's fine to wish someone dead as
long as it's Hope-a-dope doing it. Go on. Give it a try.
--
Ray
$Zero
> "$Zero" <z...@whooooooosh.com> instead replied:
> >On Mar 21, 7:47?pm, Alan Hope <not.alan.h...@mail.com> wrote:
> >> Ray Haddad goes:
> >> >Alan Hope <not.alan.h...@mail.com> instead replied:
>
> >> >>Good. Lie down and die.
>
> >> >When you wrote that to P, he took you seriously. No, seriously.
>
> >> You're despicable.
>
> >Ray must think that he's obliged to excel at something, anything.
>
> >even if it's cruel, pathetic, despicable, and/or evil.
>
> >spit.
>
> Maybe you'd care to explain why it's fine to wish someone dead as
> long as it's Hope-a-dope doing it. Go on. Give it a try.
poll your "friends" in email to explain it to you, dumbfuck.
no, seriously.
-$Zero...
Sylvia
Ray Haddad <rha...@iexpress.net.au> wrote:
> Sylvia wrote:
</UNsnip!>
> > O.M.G.! Could Haddad, self-proclaimed
> >
> > U.S. NAVY VETERAN and WAR HERO
> >
> > be afraid to answer a simple question regarding some of his posts?
> >
> > <weeping!> >
> >
> > He appears to be a sad-ass, chicken-shit smear of slime after all!
.
> > For all yer braggin' about yer 22 year "military career", ya never have
> > mentioned what yer regular assigned duties were. Ever. Odd, innit.
.
> So? Have you ever mentioned yours?
.
> > <laughing>
</UNsnip!>
> >I have never claimed to be a
> >
> > HEROIC 22-YEAR NAVY VETERAN
> >
> > and
> >
> > DEFENDER OF THE FREE WORLD
>
> Those are your words. Remember that. I don't have to answer for your
> words. Remember that.
> --
> Ray
<staring>
<whisper>
"I say, I say--boy's not right in the head. Missing a few marbles.
Bowling ball's got a few too many holes drilled in it." [1]
</whisper>
<slowly>
That's right, Haddad. No one has asked you to answer for what *I* wrote
about *my* not having served in the military. Even if women were
drafted, I was a child during Vietnam.
I do see, however, that you have once again (4th time in a row, yes?)
inexplicably not answered what I asked you (right from the beginning)
regarding the tales you have told in MW about your 22-Year Navy Career.
See?
<UNsnip!>
> > Huh. Then, *not* an officer, right? Coulda sworn ya said you were an
> > officer.
> >
> > So, what what were yer duties as an alphanumeric pair? Swab decks? Hoist
> > mizzenmasts? Wake up and find yerself hangin' from the second highest
> > yardam? Shirley ya had some kind of title... Prevaricator Third Class?
</UNsnip!>
Shirley, you haven't suddenly developed a sense of modesty after all
these years! Is the question too difficult? Don't you even remember what
kinda work you did in the Navy? Lookit, I'll make it easier:
Haddad, what was the highest rating that you attained in the Navy? Not
yer pay grade, yer job specialty. Or, if a commissioned officer, what
was yer rank/occupational specialty--what kinda duty assignment(s) did
that entail?
--
--
Sylvia <--- The Supreme Ruler of MW
[1] Mr. Leghorn
Ray Haddad
"$Zero" <ze...@whooooooosh.com> instead replied:
You can't. Thanks for playing but you lost.
--
Ray
Towse
> Haddad, what was the highest rating that you attained in the Navy? Not
> yer pay grade, yer job specialty. Or, if a commissioned officer, what
> was yer rank/occupational specialty--what kinda duty assignment(s) did
> that entail?
I don't know where this all began.
Or why.
Or what the whole purpose of the yack-yack-yack at Haddad has been, but
for ... ever ... (or at least the last five years) the answer to all
this yack-yack-[giggle][hoo!eee!] has been out there for anyone who had
a modicum of curiosity and a basic ability to Googja search:
"I spent 22 years in service in total and retired as the last Chief
Aviation Fire Control Technician on active duty in September of 1991."
>Ray, not to sound stupid or anything (but I probably am), what does a
>Chief Aviation Fire Control Technician do?
<http://google.com/group/rec.models.rc.air/msg/297581438696882e>
AQAR Aviation Fire Control Technician Airman Recruit E1
AQAA Aviation Fire Control Technician Airman Apprentice E2
AQAN Aviation Fire Control Technician Airman E3
AQ3 Aviation Fire Control Technician Third Class E4
AQ2 Aviation Fire Control Technician Second Class E5
AQ1 Aviation Fire Control Technician First Class E6
AQC Chief Aviation Fire Control Technician E7
AQCS Senior Chief Aviation Fire Control Technician E8
AQCM Master Chief Aviation Fire Control Technician E9
[ref: <http://snipurl.com/1do1a>]
Sylvia, you are weird, just very weird.
--
Sal
Ye olde swarm of links: thousands of links for writers, researchers and
the terminally curious <http://writers.internet-resources.com>
Ray Haddad
and Sylvia <Syl...@cliffhangerREMOVE.com> instead replied:
>I do see, however, that you have once again (4th time in a row, yes?)
>inexplicably not answered what I asked you (right from the beginning)
>regarding the tales you have told in MW about your 22-Year Navy Career.
>See?
Explain to me why I owe you an answer. Now. Otherwise, pull up your
tent and go home with your petite tail between your petite legs.
--
Ray
Ray Haddad
and Sylvia <Syl...@cliffhangerREMOVE.com> instead replied:
>In article <ugh303d11a2lgm0h2...@4ax.com>,
> Ray Haddad <rha...@iexpress.net.au> wrote:
>.
><...>
>> See where a bit of compulsive obsession gets you?
>
>See what a dodgy education got him?
Your obsession continues. Get help, Sylvia. No, seriously.
--
Ray
$Zero
> "$Zero" <z...@whooooooosh.com> instead replied:
> >On Mar 21, 11:23?pm, Ray Haddad <rhad...@iexpress.net.au> wrote:
> >> "$Zero" <z...@whooooooosh.com> instead replied:
> >> >On Mar 21, 7:47?pm, Alan Hope <not.alan.h...@mail.com> wrote:
> >> >> Ray Haddad goes:
> >> >> >Alan Hope <not.alan.h...@mail.com> instead replied:
>
> >> >> >>Good. Lie down and die.
>
> >> >> >When you wrote that to P, he took you seriously. No, seriously.
>
> >> >> You're despicable.
>
> >> >Ray must think that he's obliged to excel at something, anything.
>
> >> >even if it's cruel, pathetic, despicable, and/or evil.
>
> >> >spit.
>
> >> Maybe you'd care to explain why it's fine to wish someone dead as
> >> long as it's Hope-a-dope doing it. Go on. Give it a try.
>
> >poll your "friends" in email to explain it to you, dumbfuck.
>
> >no, seriously.
>
> You can't.
i can, but i'm not the least bit interested in holding your pathetic
hand for several hours, all for nought.
> Thanks for playing but you lost.
better check the chessboard again, genius.
no, seriously.
-$Zero...
Sylvia
About an hour after you posted your latest lame defense of Ray Haddad,he
attempted to "score" against Mr. Hope by heartlessly (and nonsensically)
using the fact that one of our long-time MW posters is dying.
In case you are incapable of telling the difference, what Haddad did is
way under the "Good" radar.
--
Sylvia (Not that anyone should be surprised by another example
of Haddad's lack of social decency.)
Subject: "Rick" (First post: Dec 30, 2004)
Mr. Stan: "Rick Mount, who posted regularly here only as
'Rick,' died peacefully and painlessly in Mt. Sinai
Hospital in NYC on December 22nd."
Bill Oliver: "One of the few reasons we forensic pathologists
will hold back on a full examination is to allow an
open casket funeral, if possible. If absolutely
necessary we will [...]"
Miz Sylvia: " <merciful edit of autopsy procedure details>
"No one said anything about an autopsy or a viewing.
"Can you not see the difference between posting
about your work because someone inquired about
it for their novel and posting about it for no
reason when we are discussing the recent death
of one of our own?"
"Have you *no* sensitivity, billo?"
Subject: "Understanding the Concept of Insensitivity"
Haddad to Miz Sylvia:
"Rick is dead. He's gone. Get over it.
"Maybe you could ask around and see who else
is dying soon so you can rev yourself up for
more upset later."
Alan Hope
>>You're despicable.
You're lower than ordure. You should be ashamed of yourself. Of course
you won't be.
Ray Haddad
and Sylvia <Syl...@cliffhangerREMOVE.com> instead replied:
>In article <1174513681....@y66g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
> "Pies de Arcilla" <dear...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Sylvia wrote:
>> > Zero wrote:
>> > ...delusional dishonest evil piece of shit coward that you are,...
>>
>> This is just a _little_ overwrought. The 'evil' part, I mean.
>
>About an hour after you posted your latest lame defense of Ray Haddad,he
>attempted to "score" against Mr. Hope by heartlessly (and nonsensically)
>using the fact that one of our long-time MW posters is dying.
Who would that be, Sylvia? I mentioned no names. Did you do your
assuming thing again? Yes. Of course you did.
>In case you are incapable of telling the difference, what Haddad did is
>way under the "Good" radar.
>
>Sylvia (Not that anyone should be surprised by another example
> of Haddad's lack of social decency.)
>
>Subject: "Rick" (First post: Dec 30, 2004)
>
> Mr. Stan: "Rick Mount, who posted regularly here only as
> 'Rick,' died peacefully and painlessly in Mt. Sinai
> Hospital in NYC on December 22nd."
>
>Bill Oliver: "One of the few reasons we forensic pathologists
> will hold back on a full examination is to allow an
> open casket funeral, if possible. If absolutely
> necessary we will [...]"
>
>Miz Sylvia: " <merciful edit of autopsy procedure details>
>
> "No one said anything about an autopsy or a viewing.
>
> "Can you not see the difference between posting
> about your work because someone inquired about
> it for their novel and posting about it for no
> reason when we are discussing the recent death
> of one of our own?"
>
> "Have you *no* sensitivity, billo?"
>
>Subject: "Understanding the Concept of Insensitivity"
>
>Haddad to Miz Sylvia:
>
> "Rick is dead. He's gone. Get over it.
>
> "Maybe you could ask around and see who else
> is dying soon so you can rev yourself up for
> more upset later."
And I see my prediction was spot-on again, Sylvia. Don't forget to
mention that you disgraced Rick by using his name pretending to
speak for him after he was dead. Go on now. Flog yourself for that
one you moron.
--
Ray
Ray Haddad
and Alan Hope <not.al...@mail.com> instead replied:
>Ray Haddad goes:
>
>>On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 01:47:17 +0100, I said, "Pick a card, any card"
>>and Alan Hope <not.al...@mail.com> instead replied:
>>>Ray Haddad goes:
>>>>On Wed, 21 Mar 2007 20:09:57 +0100, I said, "Pick a card, any card"
>>>>and Alan Hope <not.al...@mail.com> instead replied:
>
>>>>>Good. Lie down and die.
>
>>>>When you wrote that to P, he took you seriously. No, seriously.
>
>>>You're despicable.
>
>>Oh, dear. After you wish someone else dead, you have absolutely no
>>room to make such a comment you buffoon.
>
>You're lower than ordure. You should be ashamed of yourself. Of course
>you won't be.
Who are you addressing? Who was I discussing? Did YOU put a name to
that? Shame on you, Hope-a-dope. On the other hand, YOU knew full
well who you were wishing would "lie down and die." After all, you
added your comment to the reply to her post.
Just face it, moron. You got caught yet again with your hand in the
jar. Now do the predictable Hope-a-dope thing and deny it.
--
Ray
Ray Haddad
"$Zero" <ze...@whooooooosh.com> instead replied:
>Ray is a genius.
Thanks for that, mate.
--
Ray
$Zero
> Alan Hope <not.alan.h...@mail.com> instead replied:
> > Ray Haddad goes:
> >> Alan Hope <not.alan.h...@mail.com> instead replied:
> >>> Ray Haddad goes:
> >>>> Alan Hope <not.alan.h...@mail.com> instead replied:
>
> >>>>>Good. Lie down and die.
>
> >>>>When you wrote that to P, he took you seriously. No, seriously.
>
> >>>You're despicable.
>
> >>Oh, dear. After you wish someone else dead, you have absolutely no
> >>room to make such a comment you buffoon.
>
> >You're lower than ordure. You should be ashamed of yourself. Of course
> >you won't be.
>
> Who are you addressing?
> Who was I discussing?
> Did YOU put a name to that?
> Shame on you, Hope-a-dope.
just who the fuck do you think you're fooling with this utterly
pathetic non-apology?
do you actually think that ANYBODY thinks that this is funny or cool?
you won't find a single honorable Marine in your corner, scumbag.
-$Zero...
Sylvia
.
> >I do see, however, that you have once again (4th time in a row, yes?)
> >inexplicably not answered what I asked you (right from the beginning)
> >regarding the tales you have told in MW about your 22-Year Navy Career.
> >See?
> Explain to me why I owe you an answer.
No.
.
> Now.
.
<thumbing petite nose at Haddad>
.
> Otherwise, pull up your tent and go home
<looking around>
"Tent"? Mebbe ya oughta sit down... you sound kinda sorta stressed out.
Are ya cryin'? "Pies de Arcilla" thinks yer gonna cry 'cause I asked
about yer rating.
> with your petite tail between your petite legs.
<laughing>
You've been givin' yer metaphors a good stir again. Tell us once more
about how ya make soooo much money with yer writing.
Well, it don't matter now 'cause towse followed you around Usenet and
dug up the information ya posted about yer ratings in another newsgroup.
So, guess what *towse* then posted to MW at the EXACT same time that you
posted this reply to me? Oh, yeah, Haddad she just supplied us with the
information that ya obviously absolutely did not want to have spilled in
MW.
"Now go ahead and let everyone know how you're not
an obsessive Internet stalker, Sylvia."
-- Haddad in MW
<pointing carrot stick at towse>
Not me, it's yer pal, towse. I restricted myself to MW information, to
what you made public *here*. But, towse, as we know, would have no
problem--no ethical problem, that is--with searchin' for and then
introducing information that ya posted elsewhere into MW... which now
makes that information part of MW, doncha know.
<most innocent expression>
Can't think what would have pushed towse to feel she had to do that...
> "I spent 22 years in service in total and retired as the last Chief
> Aviation Fire Control Technician on active duty in September of 1991."
.
> >Ray, not to sound stupid or anything (but I probably am), what does a
> >Chief Aviation Fire Control Technician do?
.
> <http://google.com/group/rec.models.rc.air/msg/297581438696882e>
Lookit! Not just a quote, but a link to this entire 94-post thread:
"Subject: For those curious about Ray Haddad"
Oooh! Check out that initial post! You ain't well-liked there either,
innit.
Gawd, and towse even supplied this:
> AQAR Aviation Fire Control Technician Airman Recruit E1
> AQAA Aviation Fire Control Technician Airman Apprentice E2
> AQAN Aviation Fire Control Technician Airman E3
> AQ3 Aviation Fire Control Technician Third Class E4
> AQ2 Aviation Fire Control Technician Second Class E5
> AQ1 Aviation Fire Control Technician First Class E6
> AQC Chief Aviation Fire Control Technician E7
<...>
> [ref: <http://snipurl.com/1do1a>]
Hey! You said you were "an E-5 and later an E-6" during the "early
70's", the time you claimed to be tourin' around with the USO an yer
time off from combat. But, by 1991 ya only got as high as an E7? Huh.
Mr. Stan: "Petty officer is a naval enlisted rank,
and a particularly low one at that for
someone with 22 yrs of service. An
enlisted man with half a brain will easily
attain the rank of E-6 after 4 yrs
of service."
Pies de Arcilla: "He said he had that rank when he was on
the USO tour. Maybe that was after 4
years. Did he claim to have 22 years in
at that point?"
Mr. Stan: "He said he served for 22 years. As I said,
that's a rather low rank for that much time
in the Navy. So, if he achieved E-6 in his
5th year and rose no further, he was either
a particularly dim bulb or quite the little
fuck up."
Mr. Hope: "Why does it always have to be either/or?"
NEW QUESTION:
So, Haddad, what was it like to tour Vietnam with Mr. Bob Hope?
--
Sylvia <--- The Supreme Ruler of MW
"I'm not sure if there was bad blood before, but
there certainly was after Nancy posted Leslie's
full-name during one of Leslie's appearances
here when she was obviously trying not to spill
her full name all over here and tarnation. Was
that the trigger? I don't know."
-- Towse in MW
$Zero
> "$Zero" <z...@whooooooosh.com> instead replied:
>
> >Ray is a genius.
>
> Thanks for that, mate.
you're welcome, checkmate.
-$Zero...
$Zero
> Sylvia <Syl...@cliffhangerREMOVE.com> instead replied:
> > "Pies de Arcilla" <dearci...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Sylvia wrote:
> >> > Zero wrote:
>
> >> > ...delusional dishonest evil piece of shit coward that you are,...
>
> >> This is just a _little_ overwrought. The 'evil' part, I mean.
is it?
we're all a bit evil, though some are a bit more evil than others.
Ray is not the most evil person in the world, but he's certainly not a
good role model in any way that i can think of at this juncture.
i mean, even if we subtract the evil like you suggest, there's not
much there to admire, is there?
> >> > ...delusional dishonest [evil] piece of shit coward that you are,...
and don't forget about adding Stupidity to the list.
granted, it's a given, but...
> >About an hour after you posted your latest lame defense of Ray Haddad,he
> >attempted to "score" against Mr. Hope by heartlessly (and nonsensically)
> >using the fact that one of our long-time MW posters is dying.
>
> Who would that be, Sylvia? I mentioned no names.
consciousness of guilt.
> Did you do your assuming thing again? Yes. Of course you did.
Ray's such a good guy, and a genius.
you can quote me on that, Ray.
but this is probably what i really think of you:
"delusional dishonest evil piece of shit coward that you are"
etc.
> >In case you are incapable of telling the difference, what Haddad did is
> >way under the "Good" radar.
it's a simple matter of character.
well, lack of.
have you ever had a real life friend, Ray?
ever?
or is it all just "presto!"
sad.
-$Zero...
Stan (the Man)
news:Xns98FAA7E18...@217.68.187.32:
> Money talks. "Pies de Arcilla" <dear...@gmail.com> posts this:
>
>
>> On Mar 20, 8:23 pm, gekko <g...@lutz.kicks-ass.org.INVALID> wrote:
>>> It would also be nicer if people who admittedly "don't know
>>> anything about the military" would refrain from refering to
>>> someone else as "starting to appear both ignorant and obnoxious"
>>> when discussing the very military things about which you know
>>> nothing.
>>
>> I thought she didn't even know what an "alphanumeric pair" meant.
>>
>>
> 'k. I'll bite. Is there some hidden meaning in it? Something
> other than "a pair of characters that can range from [A-z][0-9]?
Tell you/kill you . . . yada-yada.
--
Stan
Alan Hope
>On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 08:00:51 +0100, I said, "Pick a card, any card"
>and Alan Hope <not.al...@mail.com> instead replied:
>>Ray Haddad goes:
>>>On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 01:47:17 +0100, I said, "Pick a card, any card"
>>>and Alan Hope <not.al...@mail.com> instead replied:
>>>>Ray Haddad goes:
>>>>>On Wed, 21 Mar 2007 20:09:57 +0100, I said, "Pick a card, any card"
>>>>>and Alan Hope <not.al...@mail.com> instead replied:
>>>>>>Good. Lie down and die.
>>>>>When you wrote that to P, he took you seriously. No, seriously.
>>>>You're despicable.
>>>Oh, dear. After you wish someone else dead, you have absolutely no
>>>room to make such a comment you buffoon.
>>You're lower than ordure. You should be ashamed of yourself. Of course
>>you won't be.
>Who are you addressing? Who was I discussing? Did YOU put a name to
>that? Shame on you, Hope-a-dope.
Yeahrightsure. Who did you mean by "P" then?
>On the other hand, YOU knew full
>well who you were wishing would "lie down and die." After all, you
>added your comment to the reply to her post.
Indeed. You must therefore also have seen her comment, to which it was
a reply.
>Just face it, moron. You got caught yet again with your hand in the
>jar. Now do the predictable Hope-a-dope thing and deny it.
You're a piece of shit.
Alan Hope
>On 21 Mar 2007 23:11:21 -0700, I said, "Pick a card, any card" and
>"$Zero" <ze...@whooooooosh.com> instead replied:
>>Ray is a piece of shit.
>Thanks for that, mate.
Indeed. He's being far too lenient.
Sylvia
> Sylvia wrote:
> > "Pies de Arcilla" <dear...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Sylvia wrote:
> >> > Zero wrote:
> >> > ...delusional dishonest evil piece of shit coward that you are,...
.
> >> This is just a _little_ overwrought. The 'evil' part, I mean.
.
> >About an hour after you posted your latest lame defense of Ray Haddad,he
> >attempted to "score" against Mr. Hope by heartlessly (and nonsensically)
> >using the fact that one of our long-time MW posters is dying.
.
> Who would that be, Sylvia?
Gawd, Haddad's beyond being a weasel. This is just plain disgusting.
> I mentioned no names.
"When you wrote that to P, he took you seriously. No, seriously."
-- Ray Haddad in MW
> Did you do your assuming thing again? Yes. Of course you did.
Do you suppose that Haddad seriously believes that if he states
something, that it will be taken as truth?
> >In case you are incapable of telling the difference, what Haddad did is
> >way under the "Good" radar.
> >
> >Sylvia (Not that anyone should be surprised by another example
> > of Haddad's lack of social decency.)
<...>
> >Miz Sylvia: " <merciful edit of autopsy procedure details>
> >
> > "No one said anything about an autopsy or a viewing.
> >
> > "Can you not see the difference between posting
> > about your work because someone inquired about
> > it for their novel and posting about it for no
> > reason when we are discussing the recent death
> > of one of our own?"
> >
> > "Have you *no* sensitivity, billo?"
> >
> >Subject: "Understanding the Concept of Insensitivity"
> >
> >Haddad to Miz Sylvia:
> >
> > "Rick is dead. He's gone. Get over it.
> >
> > "Maybe you could ask around and see who else
> > is dying soon so you can rev yourself up for
> > more upset later."
.
> And I see my prediction was spot-on again, Sylvia.
What an idiot Haddad is.
> Don't forget to mention that you disgraced Rick by using his name
> pretending to speak for him after he was dead. Go on now. Flog
> yourself for that one you moron.
<staring>
Has anyone else noticed that when Haddad does a panic dive into his
twisted web of lies, his online voice slips? Very tellin', innit.
--
Sylvia
"Ray is not the most evil person in the world,
but he's certainly not a good role model in any
way that i can think of at this juncture.
"i mean, even if we subtract the evil like you
suggest, there's not much there to admire, is there?"
-- Mr. $Zero re: Haddad
Sylvia
> On Mar 22, 5:19?am, Ray Haddad <rhad...@iexpress.net.au> wrote:
> > Alan Hope replied:
<...>
> > >You're lower than ordure. You should be ashamed of yourself. Of course
> > >you won't be.
.
> > Who are you addressing?
> > Who was I discussing?
> > Did YOU put a name to that?
> > Shame on you, Hope-a-dope.
.
> just who the fuck do you think you're fooling with this utterly
> pathetic non-apology?
>
> do you actually think that ANYBODY thinks that this is funny or cool?
FWIW, I now believe that Haddad is not simply clueless about social
mores, but that he is truly unable to *feel* what they are about. That
is, when it suits his purposes, he can mimic an understanding of them
[1] based on what other people say, but he is one of those (thankfully)
rare people that are literally incapable of developing his own awareness
of social decency.
He will never feel shame for his words because, although Haddad *is*
capable of sensing when he's really causing disgust, it is impossible
for him understand why. So he will continue to react out of anger and
fear, with complete disregard for logic.
> you won't find a single honorable Marine in your corner, scumbag.
Or, anyone of honor.
--
Sylvia
[1] "Yes, there were emotional wails, sobs and tears.
I thought they would render me into mere shreds
of a man if I had to endure them for any longer
than I did. I was moved to tears, myself."
-- Ray Haddad in MW
Contrast: "Rick is dead. He's gone. Get over it."
-- Ray Haddad to Miz Sylvia within a
week of the announcement of her
MW & RW friend, Mr. Rick.
In MW, Subject: "Understanding the
Concept of Insensitivity"
Sylvia
> Ray Haddad goes:
.
> > Alan Hope wrote:
> >>Ray Haddad goes:
> >>>Alan Hope wrote:
<UNsnip!>
"Pies de Arcilla" <dear...@gmail.com> wrote:
<...>
> >I decided to go on a spree and help myself to anything that I wanted
> >to use, regardless of whether anyone thought of it as her own.
<...>
> >And now you are shooting the messenger, whoever I am.
</UNsnip!>
.
> >>>>Good. Lie down and die.
.
> >>>When you wrote that to P, he took you seriously. No, seriously.
.
> >>You're despicable.
>
> >Oh, dear. After you wish someone else dead, you have absolutely no
> >room to make such a comment you buffoon.
.
> You're lower than ordure. You should be ashamed of yourself. Of course
> you won't be.
Of course not. That's Ray Haddad *Showing* us how "sensitive" he is.
Compare to Ray Haddad in MW, *Telling* us how Sensitive he is:
"I have had the extreme displeasure of twice having to inform next of
kin about the loss of a loved one on active duty due to combat. [...]
"It is a sad duty beyond description. As a senior military person, that
task often falls on our shoulders and we are trained in the matter. I
expected the worst and was thoroughly overcome by the heroic
acceptance in every case. Yes, there were emotional wails, sobs and
tears. I thought they would render me into mere shreds of a man if I
had to endure them for any longer than I did. I was moved to tears,
myself.
"In all three cases, the questions were the same and could have been
read from a script. They wanted to know the details of his death and
then, in spite of their grief, asked in one form or another if their
man had died with honor. Bearing a letter describing all, it was an
easy task to simply hand it to them. Instead, I had taken the time to
learn all I could because I expected the questions. I'll never forget
those visits as long as I draw breath.
"All three women were alone with me after I informed them. They didn't
have to put on a show for me. They had seen me shed tears for their
men. All three accepted their losses as necessary. Not one of them
called the death senseless. Not one of them asked, "Why me?" They had
all known of the possibility of this loss and as mothers and a wife
were behind their men."
-- Ray Haddad in MW 12/29/2002
http://tinyurl.com/359694
--
Sylvia
"Rick is dead. He's gone. Get over it."
-- Ray Haddad in MW
$Zero
> Mr. $Zero wrote:
> > On Mar 22, 5:19?am, Ray Haddad <rhad...@iexpress.net.au> wrote:
> > > Alan Hope replied:
>
> <...>
>
> > > >You're lower than ordure. You should be ashamed of yourself. Of course
> > > >you won't be.
> .
> > > Who are you addressing?
> > > Who was I discussing?
> > > Did YOU put a name to that?
> > > Shame on you, Hope-a-dope.
> .
> > just who the fuck do you think you're fooling with this utterly
> > pathetic non-apology?
>
> > do you actually think that ANYBODY thinks that this is funny or cool?
>
> FWIW, I now believe that Haddad is not simply clueless about social
> mores, but that he is truly unable to *feel* what they are about.
maybe. however, since he only used the first letter of the person's
last name when he did his latest disgraceful act, it shows that he was
consciously aware that he was crossing a major fucking line, therefore
indicating that he is evil far more than a mere inability to feel at
all.
> That is, when it suits his purposes, he can mimic an understanding of
> them [1] based on what other people say, but he is one of those
> (thankfully) rare people that are literally incapable of developing his
> own awareness of social decency.
but again, he did show a pre-consciousness of guilt in the matter by
only using the letter "P" during his despicable and pathetic little
outburst.
> He will never feel shame for his words because, although Haddad *is*
> capable of sensing when he's really causing disgust, it is impossible
> for him understand why.
well, probably impossible to *fully* understand why, i agree.
he's obviously lacking in many many ways.
> So he will continue to react out of anger and
> fear, with complete disregard for logic.
that goes more to his innate and profound stupidity, IMO.
> > you won't find a single honorable Marine in your corner, scumbag.
>
> Or, anyone of honor.
or anyone of any humanity.
> --
> Sylvia
>
> [1] "Yes, there were emotional wails, sobs and tears.
> I thought they would render me into mere shreds
> of a man if I had to endure them for any longer
> than I did. I was moved to tears, myself."
>
> -- Ray Haddad in MW
>
> Contrast: "Rick is dead. He's gone. Get over it."
>
> -- Ray Haddad to Miz Sylvia within a
> week of the announcement of her
> MW & RW friend, Mr. Rick.
>
> In MW, Subject: "Understanding the
> Concept of Insensitivity"
Ray probably thinks that such behavior makes him some sort of
toughguy.
bzzzt.
far from it.
major cowardice.
-$Zero...
Sylvia
> Sylvia wrote:
> > Mr. $Zero wrote:
<...>
> > > just who the fuck do you think you're fooling with this utterly
> > > pathetic non-apology?
> >
> > > do you actually think that ANYBODY thinks that this is funny or cool?
> > FWIW, I now believe that Haddad is not simply clueless about social
> > mores, but that he is truly unable to *feel* what they are about.
> maybe. however, since he only used the first letter of the person's
> last name when he did his latest disgraceful act, it shows that he was
> consciously aware that he was crossing a major fucking line,
Oh, absolutely.
> therefore indicating that he is evil far more than a mere inability to feel at
> all.
There are people without a full range of normal human emotions. It is
obvious that Haddad feels anger and anxiety. Still, "consciously aware"
and "emotionally aware" are not always in tandem.
> > That is, when it suits his purposes, he can mimic an understanding of
> > them [1] based on what other people say, but he is one of those
> > (thankfully) rare people that are literally incapable of developing his
> > own awareness of social decency.
> but again, he did show a pre-consciousness of guilt in the matter by
> only using the letter "P" during his despicable and pathetic little
> outburst.
You may be right, that could indicate guilt in someone. But, I'm talking
about people that lack empathy in certain situations due to their
inability to feel a particular emotion(s). That does not preclude their
knowing that their behavior is considered inappropriate (or odd)
according to social standards, and that it will draw /might draw
censure--even if they can't see why it should as they do not have the
needed emotion(s) to *feel* the truth.
For example, Temple Grandin, a high functioning autistic, once looked at
a sunset that filled someone else with awe at its beauty. Miz Grandin
was fully capable of describing the sunset using non-abstract terms, she
could even explain why we see the colors that we do, and she could state
that she was aware that a sunset was considered beautiful... and that
this one filled her friend with joy. Sadly, Miz Grandin also know that
she could never *feel* as her friend did--in fact, she could never even
understand how a sunset could make anyone feel that way. She just
doesn't have the frame of reference.
So, what you see as possible "guilt", I see as Haddad just being
somewhat aware that what he is doing will be considered "wrong" in some
way by others, and trying to set up a weasel escape route.
> > He will never feel shame for his words because, although Haddad *is*
> > capable of sensing when he's really causing disgust, it is impossible
> > for him understand why.
>
> well, probably impossible to *fully* understand why, i agree.
>
> he's obviously lacking in many many ways.
He works hard to remind us of that.
> > So he will continue to react out of anger and
> > fear, with complete disregard for logic.
> that goes more to his innate and profound stupidity, IMO.
> > > you won't find a single honorable Marine in your corner, scumbag.
> > Or, anyone of honor.
> or anyone of any humanity.
<...>
> > Contrast: ? ?"Rick is dead. He's gone. Get over it."
> >
> > -- Ray Haddad to Miz Sylvia within a
> > week of the announcement of the
death of her MW & RW friend,
Mr. Rick.
<...>
> Ray probably thinks that such behavior makes him some sort of
> toughguy.
>
> bzzzt.
>
> far from it.
>
> major cowardice.
ITYMTS, (Very) Petty Officer Cowardice, E6.
--
Sylvia <--- The Supreme Ruler of MW
"You get more and more irrational and eventually you fold. "
- Mr. RJM to Haddad in MW
Ray Haddad
and Sylvia <Syl...@cliffhangerREMOVE.com> instead replied:
>[1] "Yes, there were emotional wails, sobs and tears.
> I thought they would render me into mere shreds
> of a man if I had to endure them for any longer
> than I did. I was moved to tears, myself."
>
> -- Ray Haddad in MW
Who wrote that? Be careful, Sylvia. Google is not always your
friend. Actually, it's your petite mind again getting in your way.
--
Ray
Ray Haddad
"$Zero" <ze...@whooooooosh.com> instead replied:
>he is evil far more than a mere inability to feel at all.
You would do well to consider that, Xero.
--
Ray
Ray Haddad
and Alan Hope <not.al...@mail.com> instead replied:
>Ray Haddad goes:
>
>>On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 08:00:51 +0100, I said, "Pick a card, any card"
>>and Alan Hope <not.al...@mail.com> instead replied:
>>>Ray Haddad goes:
>>>>On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 01:47:17 +0100, I said, "Pick a card, any card"
>>>>and Alan Hope <not.al...@mail.com> instead replied:
>>>>>Ray Haddad goes:
>>>>>>On Wed, 21 Mar 2007 20:09:57 +0100, I said, "Pick a card, any card"
>>>>>>and Alan Hope <not.al...@mail.com> instead replied:
>
>>>>>>>Good. Lie down and die.
>
>>>>>>When you wrote that to P, he took you seriously. No, seriously.
>
>>>>>You're despicable.
>
>>>>Oh, dear. After you wish someone else dead, you have absolutely no
>>>>room to make such a comment you buffoon.
>
>>>You're lower than ordure. You should be ashamed of yourself. Of course
>>>you won't be.
>
>>Who are you addressing? Who was I discussing? Did YOU put a name to
>>that? Shame on you, Hope-a-dope.
>
>Yeahrightsure. Who did you mean by "P" then?
You're the one who assigned a name to it. You and your pals Sylvia
and Xero. You tell me who it meant to you. Go on. Give it a try.
>>On the other hand, YOU knew full
>>well who you were wishing would "lie down and die." After all, you
>>added your comment to the reply to her post.
>
>Indeed. You must therefore also have seen her comment, to which it was
>a reply.
Nothing anyone can ever write here can earn them a death wish,
Hope-a-dope. Only you could believe otherwise.
>>Just face it, moron. You got caught yet again with your hand in the
>>jar. Now do the predictable Hope-a-dope thing and deny it.
>
>You're a piece of shit.
And you got caught again doing that presumption thing and doing it
badly.
--
Ray
Ray Haddad
"$Zero" <ze...@whooooooosh.com> instead replied:
>Ray's such a good guy, and a genius.
>
>you can quote me on that, Ray.
Drunk again?
--
Ray
Ray Haddad
and Sylvia <Syl...@cliffhangerREMOVE.com> instead replied:
>Ray Haddad <rha...@iexpress.net.au> wrote:
I make truckloads of money from a variety of sources including
writing. You?
>Well, it don't matter now 'cause towse followed you around Usenet and
>dug up the information ya posted about yer ratings in another newsgroup.
>So, guess what *towse* then posted to MW at the EXACT same time that you
>posted this reply to me? Oh, yeah, Haddad she just supplied us with the
>information that ya obviously absolutely did not want to have spilled in
>MW.
Obviously? Who are you kidding. I never hid it from you or wanted
you not to see it. My goodness, Sylvia, when you are caught out
being absolutely dead stupid you really try to backpedal in a hurry.
> "Now go ahead and let everyone know how you're not
> an obsessive Internet stalker, Sylvia."
>
> -- Haddad in MW
>
> <pointing carrot stick at towse>
>
>Not me, it's yer pal, towse. I restricted myself to MW information, to
>what you made public *here*. But, towse, as we know, would have no
>problem--no ethical problem, that is--with searchin' for and then
>introducing information that ya posted elsewhere into MW... which now
>makes that information part of MW, doncha know.
Nice try. You were too stupid to find it, girlie. You had no such
qualms about posting sections of my personal page, did you? Now you
pretend you have some ethical barrier which you won't breach. What
nonsense that is. Let me give you a clue, Sylvia. I want to earn an
income so I make sure that those who need to know me and about me
do. Anyone who spends several hours a week trying to do what they
can to destroy me is not going to get provided information on a
silver platter nor are they going to get away with declaring
themselves ethical by implication.
That's an interesting tactic you used there. Declaring Sal to be
unethical implies that your ethics are not to be questioned.
> <most innocent expression>
>
>Can't think what would have pushed towse to feel she had to do that...
>
>> "I spent 22 years in service in total and retired as the last Chief
>> Aviation Fire Control Technician on active duty in September of 1991."
>.
>> >Ray, not to sound stupid or anything (but I probably am), what does a
>> >Chief Aviation Fire Control Technician do?
>.
>> <http://google.com/group/rec.models.rc.air/msg/297581438696882e>
>
>Lookit! Not just a quote, but a link to this entire 94-post thread:
>"Subject: For those curious about Ray Haddad"
Yes. For the most part, complimentary. Read it.
>Oooh! Check out that initial post! You ain't well-liked there either,
>innit.
Jerry Festa and I get along fine. Read it again.
>Gawd, and towse even supplied this:
>
>> AQAR Aviation Fire Control Technician Airman Recruit E1
>> AQAA Aviation Fire Control Technician Airman Apprentice E2
>> AQAN Aviation Fire Control Technician Airman E3
>> AQ3 Aviation Fire Control Technician Third Class E4
>> AQ2 Aviation Fire Control Technician Second Class E5
>> AQ1 Aviation Fire Control Technician First Class E6
>> AQC Chief Aviation Fire Control Technician E7
><...>
>> [ref: <http://snipurl.com/1do1a>]
>
>Hey! You said you were "an E-5 and later an E-6" during the "early
>70's", the time you claimed to be tourin' around with the USO an yer
>time off from combat. But, by 1991 ya only got as high as an E7? Huh.
No. I got as high as E-8 but declined the promotion as I was so
close to retiring. Regarding the rank I held when I was touring, I
answered. There are a lot more questions unanswered here, Sylvia,
that you will never get answered by me. Not because I fear you or
because I fear anyone else here knowing them, but because there's no
point in giving you any more information. You don't want it to
better know me. You want it for ammunition.
> Mr. Stan: "Petty officer is a naval enlisted rank,
> and a particularly low one at that for
> someone with 22 yrs of service. An
> enlisted man with half a brain will easily
> attain the rank of E-6 after 4 yrs
> of service."
>
>Pies de Arcilla: "He said he had that rank when he was on
> the USO tour. Maybe that was after 4
> years. Did he claim to have 22 years in
> at that point?"
>
> Mr. Stan: "He said he served for 22 years. As I said,
> that's a rather low rank for that much time
> in the Navy. So, if he achieved E-6 in his
> 5th year and rose no further, he was either
> a particularly dim bulb or quite the little
> fuck up."
That explains why Stan only did a short stint in service.
> Mr. Hope: "Why does it always have to be either/or?"
>
>
>NEW QUESTION:
>
>So, Haddad, what was it like to tour Vietnam with Mr. Bob Hope?
Only two cities in Vietnam. Guam, Midway, Hawaii, the Philippines
and a few of the larger ships were on the schedule those years. If
you want the exact details with dates, places and possibly a few
photos, send me an e-mail. You know the address.
--
Ray
Ray Haddad
and Sylvia <Syl...@cliffhangerREMOVE.com> instead replied:
>> Don't forget to mention that you disgraced Rick by using his name
>> pretending to speak for him after he was dead. Go on now. Flog
>> yourself for that one you moron.
I note that you didn't deny this but instead tried to deflect
attention from it. Nice one, Sylvia.
--
Ray
Ray Haddad
and Sylvia <Syl...@cliffhangerREMOVE.com> instead replied:
>"Rick is dead. He's gone. Get over it."
Truth becomes you.
--
Ray
Pies de Arcilla
> Money talks. "Pies de Arcilla" <dearci...@gmail.com> posts this:
>
[...]
> > I thought she didn't even know what an "alphanumeric pair" meant.
>
> 'k. I'll bite. Is there some hidden meaning in it? Something
> other than "a pair of characters that can range from [A-z][0-9]?
My point is that it sounded like she didn't know what the
corresponding rank was.
Sylvia
>Sylvia wrote:
<softly singing "la, la, la...">
. <UNsnip>
> > FWIW, I now believe that Haddad is not simply clueless about social
> > mores, but that he is truly unable to *feel* what they are about. That
> > is, when it suits his purposes, he can mimic an understanding of them
> > [1] based on what other people say, but he is one of those (thankfully)
> > rare people that are literally incapable of developing his own awareness
> > of social decency.
</UNsnip>
.
> >[1] "Yes, there were emotional wails, sobs and tears.
> > I thought they would render me into mere shreds
> > of a man if I had to endure them for any longer
> > than I did. I was moved to tears, myself."
> >
> > -- Ray Haddad in MW
.
> Who wrote that?
"That boy's about as sharp as a sack of wet mice."
(Stolen from Mr. Leghorn)
> Be careful, Sylvia.
I wonder if Haddad realizes that when he demands an answer and follows
it with "be careful", it's a sign he knows he's been caught lying *and*
that he is about to attempt to weasel out of what he did?
> Google is not always your friend.
Ray Haddad in MW 12/29/2002
http://tinyurl.com/359694
"The archive will confirm."
-- Mr. RJM
(Gawd, I've been just waitin' to use that quote!)
> Actually, it's your petite mind again getting in your way.
Haddad: "Your petite brain has overloaded."
Miz Sylvia: "And ya couldn't come up with *anything* different.
Yer pathetic. Still, you fall back on the "brain
lame" whenever you feel threatened by someone
else's intellegence... which is to say, you
resort to 'brain lames' a lot.
"<pressing PLAY button on digital recorder>
"Wot a maroon! Haddad believes
there's a positive correlation
between brain size and intelligence!
"[click!]"
Ray Haddad in MW, *Telling* us how Sensitive he is:
"I have had the extreme displeasure of twice having to inform next of
kin about the loss of a loved one on active duty due to combat. [...]
"It is a sad duty beyond description. As a senior military person, that
task often falls on our shoulders and we are trained in the matter. I
expected the worst and was thoroughly overcome by the heroic
acceptance in every case. Yes, there were emotional wails, sobs and
tears. I thought they would render me into mere shreds of a man if I
had to endure them for any longer than I did. I was moved to tears,
myself.
"In all three cases, the questions were the same and could have been
read from a script. They wanted to know the details of his death and
then, in spite of their grief, asked in one form or another if their
man had died with honor. Bearing a letter describing all, it was an
easy task to simply hand it to them. Instead, I had taken the time to
learn all I could because I expected the questions. I'll never forget
those visits as long as I draw breath.
"All three women were alone with me after I informed them. They didn't
have to put on a show for me. They had seen me shed tears for their
men. All three accepted their losses as necessary. Not one of them
called the death senseless. Not one of them asked, "Why me?" They had
all known of the possibility of this loss and as mothers and a wife
were behind their men."
-- Ray Haddad in MW 12/29/2002
http://tinyurl.com/359694
--
Sylvia
Ray Haddad *Showing* us how "sensitive" he is.
"Rick is dead. He's gone. Get over it."
-- Ray Haddad in MW
Sylvia
> gekko wrote:
> > Money talks. "Pies de Arcilla" <dearci...@gmail.com> posts this:
<UNsnip>
Haddad: "I was an E-5 and later an E-6."
Miz Sylvia: "Huh. Then, *not* an officer, right? Coulda sworn
ya said you were an officer.
"So, what what were yer duties as an alphanumeric
pair? Swab decks? Hoist mizzenmasts? Wake up
and find yerself hangin' from the second highest
yardam? Shirley ya had some kind of title...
Prevaricator Third Class?
"For all yer braggin' about yer 22 year 'military
career', ya never have mentioned what yer
regular assigned duties were. Ever. Odd, innit."
</UNsnip>
> [...]
> > > I thought she didn't even know what an "alphanumeric pair" meant.
.
> > 'k. I'll bite. Is there some hidden meaning in it? Something
> > other than "a pair of characters that can range from [A-z][0-9]?
.
> My point is that it sounded like she didn't know what the
> corresponding rank was.
"Corresponding rank"? Idjit! He said he was enlisted. Why do ya suppose
I then asked him what his duties and title were?
"The use of the word 'rank' for Navy enlisted personnel is
incorrect. The term is 'rate.' The rating badge is a combination
of rate pay grade... and rating." [1]
"I don't know anything about the military."
-- "Pies de Arcilla"
Something you've proved many times in this thread.. and, yet, ya persist
in makin' a fool of yerself. Knock yerself out.
--
Sylvia <--- The Supreme Ruler of MW
[1] http://www.navy.mil/navydata/ranks/rankrate.html
Here. Here are just a FEW possibilities of what Haddad's tentative
response could have meant.
GRADE RATING DESCRIPTION PAYGRADE
AB2 Aviation Boatswain's Mate Second Class E5
AB1 Aviation Boatswain's Mate First Class E6
AC2 Air Traffic Controller Second Class E5
AC1 Air Traffic Controller First Class E6
AD2 Aviation Machinist's Mate Second Class E5
AD1 Aviation Machinist's Mate First Class E6
AE2 Aviation Electrician's Mate Second Class E5
AE1 Aviation Electrician's Mate First Class E6
AG2 Aerographer's Mate Second Class E5
AG1 Aerographer's Mate First Class E6
AQ2 Aviation Fire Control Technician Second Class E5
AQ1 Aviation Fire Control Technician First Class E6
SH2 Ship's Serviceman Second Class E5
SH1 Ship's Serviceman First Class E6
SK2 Storekeeper Second Class E5
SK1 Storekeeper First Class E6
SM2 Signalman Second Class E5
SM1 Signalman First Class E6
ST2 Sonar Technician Second Class E5
ST1 Sonar Technician First Class E6
SW2 Steelworker Second Class E5
SW1 Steelworker First Class E6
TD2 Tradesman Second Class E5
TD1 Tradesman First Class E6
TM2 Torpedoman's Mate Second Class E5
TM1 Torpedoman's Mate First Class E6
UT2 Utilitiesman Second Class E5
UT1 Utilitiesman First Class E6
WT2 Weapons Technician Second Class E5
WT1 Weapons Technician First Class E6
YN2 Yeoman Second Class E5
YN1 Yeoman First Class E6
Sylvia
"Alan Hope" <not.al...@mail.com> wrote in message
news:cm0303tho5qo1e0pg...@4ax.com...
> Good. Lie down and die.
>
>
OK, fine and you just carry on with the other gals, harassing people.
You're in appropriate company.
Sylvia
> Ray Haddad goes:
>
>>>>>>>Good. Lie down and die.
>
>>>>>>When you wrote that to P, he took you seriously. No, seriously.
>
>>>>>You're despicable.
>
>>>>Oh, dear. After you wish someone else dead, you have absolutely no
>>>>room to make such a comment you buffoon.
>
>>>You're lower than ordure. You should be ashamed of yourself. Of course
>>>you won't be.
>
>>Who are you addressing? Who was I discussing? Did YOU put a name to
>>that? Shame on you, Hope-a-dope.
>
> Yeahrightsure. Who did you mean by "P" then?
>
>>On the other hand, YOU knew full
>>well who you were wishing would "lie down and die." After all, you
>>added your comment to the reply to her post.
>
> Indeed. You must therefore also have seen her comment, to which it was
> a reply.
Yes. To clarify: my comment was a question, actually. I was asking you
what it would take to make you and your girlfriends stop bullying your
victim -- tears? His suicide? Or.. what?
To which your response was that I should lie down and die.
Pies de Arcilla
Sylvia wrote:
> "Pies de Arcilla" thinks yer gonna cry 'cause I asked
> about yer rating.
I didn't say anything like that. I have not been posting as "Sylvia"
in this thread.
Ray Haddad
and Sylvia <Syl...@cliffhangerREMOVE.com> instead replied:
> Ray Haddad <rha...@iexpress.net.au> wrote:
Actually, it's a sign that I have yet again caught you being very,
very sloppy. In your haste, you always are. Getting frantic?
>> Google is not always your friend.
>
> Ray Haddad in MW 12/29/2002
> http://tinyurl.com/359694
Well, there you go, Sylvia. You tried to nitpick me and got snared
in the process. NOW, you have the right message instead of one that
Rick quoted. Since he garbled the attribution, you couldn't be sure.
Garbled? Yes. Go on. Have another go. I can hardly wait.
Ok. NOW you have the primary source and you CAN, indeed, be sure
that I wrote what you quoted. By the way, thanks for citing that
message. That was paraphrased from an article I wrote for Stars and
Stripes many years ago. I actually had to resurrect my WordStar
files from archive to retrieve it from way back then and "remodel"
it a bit to fit the discussion of the moment.
You should be my publicist.
--
Ray
Ray Haddad
and Sylvia <Syl...@cliffhangerREMOVE.com> instead replied:
>Something you've proved many times in this thread.. and, yet, ya persist
>in makin' a fool of yerself. Knock yerself out.
The only one making a fool of herself here is you, Sylvia.
--
Ray
Pies de Arcilla
Sylvia wrote:
[...]
> "Pies de Arcilla" <dear...@gmail.com> wrote:
> <...>
> > >I decided to go on a spree and help myself to anything that I wanted
> > >to use, regardless of whether anyone thought of it as her own.
> <...>
> > >And now you are shooting the messenger, whoever I am.
> </UNsnip!>
I didn't write the above. Your way of quoting tends to deceive the eye.
Alan Hope
>For example, Temple Grandin, a high functioning autistic, once looked at
>a sunset that filled someone else with awe at its beauty. Miz Grandin
>was fully capable of describing the sunset using non-abstract terms, she
>could even explain why we see the colors that we do, and she could state
>that she was aware that a sunset was considered beautiful... and that
>this one filled her friend with joy. Sadly, Miz Grandin also know that
>she could never *feel* as her friend did--in fact, she could never even
>understand how a sunset could make anyone feel that way. She just
>doesn't have the frame of reference.
On the other hand, she's uncannily able to put herself in the position
of animals on the way to being slaughtered, to the extent that her
ideas have improved the lot of abbatoir animals by a very great deal,
though not obviously to the extent of stopping them from getting the
chop.
This puts a hole somewhat in the commonly-held notion that autistics
have a defective Theory of Mind, or what has been called
mind-blindness: that is, that they're unable to put themselves in
someone else's shoes in the way you suggest. It could perhaps be that
they're perfectly able to see that a person feels a certain way, to
see how they manifest that feeling a certain way, and maybe even to
intuit why they feel a certain way. But they simply don't think it's
of much consequence to the rest of the world.
Ray Haddad
"Pies de Arcilla" <dear...@gmail.com> instead replied:
She's pathological about it. It's a sure indication of her current
state of panic.
--
Ray
Alan Hope
>On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 13:40:32 +0100, I said, "Pick a card, any card"
>and Alan Hope <not.al...@mail.com> instead replied:
>>Ray Haddad goes:
>>>On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 08:00:51 +0100, I said, "Pick a card, any card"
>>>and Alan Hope <not.al...@mail.com> instead replied:
>>>>Ray Haddad goes:
>>>>>On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 01:47:17 +0100, I said, "Pick a card, any card"
>>>>>and Alan Hope <not.al...@mail.com> instead replied:
>>>>>>Ray Haddad goes:
>>>>>>>On Wed, 21 Mar 2007 20:09:57 +0100, I said, "Pick a card, any card"
>>>>>>>and Alan Hope <not.al...@mail.com> instead replied:
>>>>>>>>Good. Lie down and die.
>>>>>>>When you wrote that to P, he took you seriously. No, seriously.
>>>>>>You're despicable.
>>>>>Oh, dear. After you wish someone else dead, you have absolutely no
>>>>>room to make such a comment you buffoon.
>>>>You're lower than ordure. You should be ashamed of yourself. Of course
>>>>you won't be.
>>>Who are you addressing? Who was I discussing? Did YOU put a name to
>>>that? Shame on you, Hope-a-dope.
>>Yeahrightsure. Who did you mean by "P" then?
>You're the one who assigned a name to it. You and your pals Sylvia
>and Xero. You tell me who it meant to you. Go on. Give it a try.
Who did you mean?
>>>On the other hand, YOU knew full
>>>well who you were wishing would "lie down and die." After all, you
>>>added your comment to the reply to her post.
>>Indeed. You must therefore also have seen her comment, to which it was
>>a reply.
>Nothing anyone can ever write here can earn them a death wish,
>Hope-a-dope. Only you could believe otherwise.
Is Leslie dying?
Is Pastorio posting here?
Explain to me the equivalence again.
>>>Just face it, moron. You got caught yet again with your hand in the
>>>jar. Now do the predictable Hope-a-dope thing and deny it.
>>You're a piece of shit.
>And you got caught again doing that presumption thing and doing it
>badly.
You're a piece of shit and a cowardly liar.