Here we go again
Faith L. McCammon
there's Ivory w/ my favorite ink pen trying to sharpen it.
(mommy grabs it)
"No! No! That's Bad!"
Ivory runs out of the study screaming.
Sigh. I hate to yell at her, but it was my fav pen. Ever have an ink pen
that feels good in your fingers, writes great, & for some really weird
reason, your story notes just seem to flow better when you use it?
(Ivory still screaming in the background)
Anyone got a set of earplugs??
--
Faith
***Do I think there's intelligent life out there? Bwahahahaha! Oh, you
meant outer space?***
Paul Martin
> Heard the pencil sharpener grinding in my study. I go running in there &
> there's Ivory w/ my favorite ink pen trying to sharpen it.
That's one thing I've always wondered. Why do people refer to them as "ink
pens?" I mean, that's what a pen uses. I've never heard of a pen that used
something other than ink. It always strikes me as a redundancy, like "hot
water heater."
(Nothing personal, Faith. You're not the only one I know who uses that
term.)
Paul (rant mode off)
patricia
>Anyone got a set of earplugs??
When the kids are noisy I write wearing those ear muff thingies that you use on
a shooting range. I bought them at a sporting goods shop and they work really
well.
Sometimes I also use them to direct planes on a runway at LAX.
;-) -- patricia
MaBear
Er, Paul? I hate to take the steam out of a good rant, but there ARE
other kinds of pens. I have a big set of watercolor pens at home.
There are also gel pens which, I suppose, contain some sort of ink, but
not the regular sort of ink you'd use for writing. I have calligraphy
pens that have a sort of metallic gold-leaf or silver-leaf paint in them
instead of ink. There are markers and highlighters, which are pens, and
they do use ink, but they're not something you'd write with ordinarily.
And I have other kinds of pens that are specifically for various types
of artwork (though I've been known to do pen-and-ink sketches with a
fine-line ballpoint pen instead of my special drawing nibs) and the
deities help you if I catch you scribbling a grocery list with one of
those pens and my India ink! Heather does face painting for kids'
parties and some school events, and she has a set of acrylic paint pens
and a set of grease pens specifically for facepainting.
So, around my house, there is a darn good reason for saying "ink pen".
It differentiates an ordinary writing pen from all the other kinds of
pens that are floating around my house.
OK?
MaBear
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Before you buy.
Julie Fitzgerald
least one letter in college. I remember many a final essay having to be
written in those infamous "blue books". While all the other students
were scribbling and scratching and sweating I kept mine neat and clean,
and by comparison subliminally suggesting that my thoughts were clearer
and brighter. If only everything else were that easy.
Paul Martin
Well, okay then, in your case we'll make an exception...
Paul
Paul Hartman
Paul Martin wrote:
> "Faith L. McCammon" wrote:
>
> > Heard the pencil sharpener grinding in my study. I go running in there &
> > there's Ivory w/ my favorite ink pen trying to sharpen it.
>
> That's one thing I've always wondered. Why do people refer to them as "ink
> pens?" I mean, that's what a pen uses. I've never heard of a pen that used
> something other than ink.
Dialect usage, very common in the midwest and south. I suppose that one avoids
confusion with things as hog pens, the state pen etc. Where y'all from, there,
brother Paul?
Faith L. McCammon
"Paul Hartman" <hart...@norlight.net> wrote in message
news:38a1ddf9$0$85...@news.execpc.com...
>
>
> Paul Martin wrote:
>
> > "Faith L. McCammon" wrote:
> >
> > > Heard the pencil sharpener grinding in my study. I go running in
there &
> > > there's Ivory w/ my favorite ink pen trying to sharpen it.
> >
> > That's one thing I've always wondered. Why do people refer to them as
"ink
> > pens?" I mean, that's what a pen uses. I've never heard of a pen that
used
> > something other than ink.
>
> Dialect usage, very common in the midwest and south. I suppose that one
avoids
> confusion with things as hog pens, the state pen etc. Where y'all from,
there,
> brother Paul?
>
*laughing*
Would that be anything like the people around my neck of the woods that say
"ain't got none"?
Got an ink pen?
Nope. Ain't got none. <bg>
Faith
Paul Martin
> Paul Martin wrote:
>
> > "Faith L. McCammon" wrote:
> >
> > > Heard the pencil sharpener grinding in my study. I go running in there &
> > > there's Ivory w/ my favorite ink pen trying to sharpen it.
> >
> > That's one thing I've always wondered. Why do people refer to them as "ink
> > pens?" I mean, that's what a pen uses. I've never heard of a pen that used
> > something other than ink.
>
> Dialect usage, very common in the midwest and south. I suppose that one avoids
> confusion with things as hog pens, the state pen etc. Where y'all from, there,
> brother Paul?
Originally, from Upstate New York (specifically, born in Utica and raised in the
Adirondacks). Currently I'm in Richmond, VA. But I've heard that particular
expression used by people from the Pacific Northwest as well as around here.
Although now that I think about it, a lot of people tell me that I sound like
I'm from somewhere in the northern Midwest. Kinda strange, considering that I've
never even set foot in that area of the world.
Paul
Paul Hartman
Faith L. McCammon wrote:
> "Paul Hartman" <hart...@norlight.net> wrote in message
> news:38a1ddf9$0$85...@news.execpc.com...
> >
> >
> > Paul Martin wrote:
> >
> > > "Faith L. McCammon" wrote:
> > >
> > > > Heard the pencil sharpener grinding in my study. I go running in
> there &
> > > > there's Ivory w/ my favorite ink pen trying to sharpen it.
> > >
> > > That's one thing I've always wondered. Why do people refer to them as
> "ink
> > > pens?" I mean, that's what a pen uses. I've never heard of a pen that
> used
> > > something other than ink.
> >
> > Dialect usage, very common in the midwest and south. I suppose that one
> avoids
> > confusion with things as hog pens, the state pen etc. Where y'all from,
> there,
> > brother Paul?
> >
> <snipped>
>
> *laughing*
> Would that be anything like the people around my neck of the woods that say
> "ain't got none"?
>
> Got an ink pen?
>
> Nope. Ain't got none. <bg>
>
Sound like sensible, well-spoken folks to me.
> Faith
Paul Hartman
Paul Martin wrote:
> Paul Hartman wrote:
>
> > Paul Martin wrote:
> >
> > > "Faith L. McCammon" wrote:
> > >
> > > > Heard the pencil sharpener grinding in my study. I go running in there &
> > > > there's Ivory w/ my favorite ink pen trying to sharpen it.
> > >
> > > That's one thing I've always wondered. Why do people refer to them as "ink
> > > pens?" I mean, that's what a pen uses. I've never heard of a pen that used
> > > something other than ink.
> >
> > Dialect usage, very common in the midwest and south. I suppose that one avoids
> > confusion with things as hog pens, the state pen etc. Where y'all from, there,
> > brother Paul?
>
> Originally, from Upstate New York (specifically, born in Utica and raised in the
> Adirondacks). Currently I'm in Richmond, VA. But I've heard that particular
> expression used by people from the Pacific Northwest as well as around here.
> Although now that I think about it, a lot of people tell me that I sound like
> I'm from somewhere in the northern Midwest. Kinda strange, considering that I've
> never even set foot in that area of the world.
>
Come on out an' see us sometime! Anytime soon, and I'd say to bring your snowsuit and
an extra pair of socks....
> Paul
Paul Martin
Snowsuit?!? Why, you folks don't get *real* winter there! You just get spring, summer
and fall! Now where *I* was raised we got winter! We used to get out the bathing suits
when it got up to 33 and start working on our tans. The snow made a dandy reflector so
you got dark all over- at least, darker than the snow.
Why, you haven't lived until you've taken a leak and had it freeze in mid-air...
Paul (and only a *real* man would whip it out in the winter up there!)
--
The optimist proclaims we live in the best of all possible worlds; and the pessimist
fears this is true. [James B. Cabell]
Keltic
<mc...@belmontcty.net> wrote:
>Anyone got a set of earplugs??
Bought six pairs just yesterday, in point of fact.
Here, have a set on me...
Cheers, Keltic
Keltic
>When the kids are noisy I write wearing those ear muff thingies that you use on
>a shooting range. I bought them at a sporting goods shop and they work really
>well.
>Sometimes I also use them to direct planes on a runway at LAX.
Funny you should say that - the reason I bought the earplugs
(mentioned upthread) is the fact that we live right next to - that is,
share a fence with - an air force base. When it's noisy, I can't
concentrate, so I wear muffs. However, they're a misery to wear in
summer, so yesterday I got around to buying a few sets of those
expanding foam earplugs. Nice, quiet environment (if you don't mind
your breath roaring in your ears) and no sweaty ears.
Cheers, Keltic
MaBear
wrote:
>Paul Hartman wrote:
>
>> Paul Martin wrote:
>>
>> > Paul Hartman wrote:
>> >
>> > > Paul Martin wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > "Faith L. McCammon" wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > Heard the pencil sharpener grinding in my study. I go running in there &
>> > > > > there's Ivory w/ my favorite ink pen trying to sharpen it.
>> > > >
>> > > > That's one thing I've always wondered. Why do people refer to them as "ink
>> > > > pens?" I mean, that's what a pen uses. I've never heard of a pen that used
>> > > > something other than ink.
>> > >
>> > > Dialect usage, very common in the midwest and south. I suppose that one avoids
>> > > confusion with things as hog pens, the state pen etc. Where y'all from, there,
>> > > brother Paul?
>> >
>> > Originally, from Upstate New York (specifically, born in Utica and raised in the
>> > Adirondacks). Currently I'm in Richmond, VA. But I've heard that particular
>> > expression used by people from the Pacific Northwest as well as around here.
>> > Although now that I think about it, a lot of people tell me that I sound like
>> > I'm from somewhere in the northern Midwest. Kinda strange, considering that I've
>> > never even set foot in that area of the world.
>> >
>>
>> Come on out an' see us sometime! Anytime soon, and I'd say to bring your snowsuit and
>> an extra pair of socks....
Yes, Paul, you really must come out and see us here in the Midwest
sometime. Just let us know when you're coming and we'll have the
lutefisk ready for you.
> Snowsuit?!? Why, you folks don't get *real* winter there! You just get spring, summer
>and fall! Now where *I* was raised we got winter! We used to get out the bathing suits
>when it got up to 33 and start working on our tans. The snow made a dandy reflector so
>you got dark all over- at least, darker than the snow.
HA! Listen to that, Hartman! They wait until it gets up to 33 before
they get out the bathing suits! HAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAaaaaaa! WIMPS!
Hell, at that temperature, we're cuttin' holes in the ice-pack and
going swimming!
> Why, you haven't lived until you've taken a leak and had it freeze in mid-air...
>
>Paul (and only a *real* man would whip it out in the winter up there!)
Up here in Minnesnowta, they aren't foolish enough to do that. During
the depths of winter, it would freeze off before you ever got around
to taking that leak. And you thought all those old lumberjacks were
nicknamed "Stumpy" because they'd accidentally slipped with the axe
and whacked a leg off. HA! Shows what YOU know.
MaBear
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C Sherwin
It has to do with vowels. not everyone pronounces the same word the same
way.
"Ink pen" is used to differentiate from "straight pin."
Candy (really!!!)
Paul Martin wrote:
>
> "Faith L. McCammon" wrote:
>
> > Heard the pencil sharpener grinding in my study. I go running in there &
> > there's Ivory w/ my favorite ink pen trying to sharpen it.
>
> That's one thing I've always wondered. Why do people refer to them as "ink
> pens?" I mean, that's what a pen uses. I've never heard of a pen that used
> something other than ink. It always strikes me as a redundancy, like "hot
Ken Jenks
> That's one thing I've always wondered. Why do people refer to
> them as "ink pens?" I mean, that's what a pen uses. I've never
> heard of a pen that used something other than ink. It always
> strikes me as a redundancy, like "hot water heater."
> (Nothing personal, Faith. You're not the only one I know
> who uses that term.)
I suspect it's a north/south dialect thing. I'm originally from
Illinois, now transplanted to Texas. In the Land of Lincoln, they're
just plain pens. In Texas, natives call them ink pens, while we damned
Yankees still call them pens.
But Texans pronounce P-E-N exactly the same as P-I-N, so they need to
use an additional qualifier to distinguish between the two spoken words.
It's something to keep in mind when you're writing dialog in dialect.
When I first moved to Texas, I felt I was part of the family. They all
called me Kin.
-- Ken Jenks, http://abiblion.com/
Tools for reading.
Paul Martin
> Paul,
>
> It has to do with vowels. not everyone pronounces the same word the same
> way.
> "Ink pen" is used to differentiate from "straight pin."
>
> Candy (really!!!)
Ah! Now that makes sense. Where I grew up the people enunciate more clearly than
that as a rule. That wouldn't have occurred to me.
Paul
Paul Hartman
MaBear wrote:
> On Wed, 09 Feb 2000 23:30:03 -0500, Paul Martin <pm2...@vcu.org>
> wrote:
>
> >Paul Hartman wrote:
> >
> >> Paul Martin wrote:
> >>
> >> > Paul Hartman wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Paul Martin wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > "Faith L. McCammon" wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > Heard the pencil sharpener grinding in my study. I go running in there &
> >> > > > > there's Ivory w/ my favorite ink pen trying to sharpen it.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > That's one thing I've always wondered. Why do people refer to them as "ink
> >> > > > pens?" I mean, that's what a pen uses. I've never heard of a pen that used
> >> > > > something other than ink.
> >> > >
> >> > > Dialect usage, very common in the midwest and south. I suppose that one avoids
> >> > > confusion with things as hog pens, the state pen etc. Where y'all from, there,
> >> > > brother Paul?
> >> >
> >> > Originally, from Upstate New York (specifically, born in Utica and raised in the
> >> > Adirondacks). Currently I'm in Richmond, VA. But I've heard that particular
> >> > expression used by people from the Pacific Northwest as well as around here.
> >> > Although now that I think about it, a lot of people tell me that I sound like
> >> > I'm from somewhere in the northern Midwest. Kinda strange, considering that I've
> >> > never even set foot in that area of the world.
> >> >
> >>
> >> Come on out an' see us sometime! Anytime soon, and I'd say to bring your snowsuit and
> >> an extra pair of socks....
>
> Yes, Paul, you really must come out and see us here in the Midwest
> sometime. Just let us know when you're coming and we'll have the
> lutefisk ready for you.
>
> > Snowsuit?!? Why, you folks don't get *real* winter there! You just get spring, summer
> >and fall! Now where *I* was raised we got winter! We used to get out the bathing suits
> >when it got up to 33 and start working on our tans. The snow made a dandy reflector so
> >you got dark all over- at least, darker than the snow.
>
> HA! Listen to that, Hartman! They wait until it gets up to 33 before
> they get out the bathing suits! HAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAaaaaaa! WIMPS!
> Hell, at that temperature, we're cuttin' holes in the ice-pack and
> going swimming!
>
<yawn!> Oh, my..... another `my winter's bigger than yours' thread..... Well, bro, *do come
see us some time, maybe it'll seem like home, then again, maybe not. Best not to come in the
first week of December, though, it's rifle season on wooly mammoths and cave bears, they get
*real tetchy around then and have a strong tendency to attack vehicles with out-of-state
plates, we lose a lot of tourists and travellers around then.
> > Why, you haven't lived until you've taken a leak and had it freeze in mid-air...
> >
> >Paul (and only a *real* man would whip it out in the winter up there!)
>
That's why us and the scandahoovians are such coffee slurpers. Get some caffeine in the
system, run around a bit to get the body temperature up and then get the job done *fast, you
fancy eastern types might take a lesson there, no need to dither with winter weeing.
Hound of Cullen
: "Faith L. McCammon" wrote:
:
: > Heard the pencil sharpener grinding in my study. I go running in there &
: > there's Ivory w/ my favorite ink pen trying to sharpen it.
:
: That's one thing I've always wondered. Why do people refer to them as "ink
: pens?" I mean, that's what a pen uses. I've never heard of a pen that used
: water heater."
Actually, shouldn't it be a "cold water heater" since it heats cold
water?
Hound