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[SOCKS-A-POPPIN'] "I Enjoy Being A Girl!": Ray Haddad's Hilarious/Oogie Claims About His SockPuppet - Guess How You Can Spot a Ray Haddad Sock, Mate? Part III

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Sylvia

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Feb 13, 2008, 1:21:47 PM2/13/08
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NOTE: Footnotes up front to make it easier for Ray Haddad in his reply
to snip all of my cited proof, to insist that I provide proof, and to
then claim that he already provided links elsewhere that prove he never
used this SockPuppet (neglecting to cite the supposed links, of course).

CHRONOLOGICAL ORDER of events (links are for verification only):

[1] Ray Haddad's "Dear Friends" post ( http://tinyurl.com/2vkbqy ):

From: rhad...@iexpress.net.au (Ray Haddad) <===== HADDAD's name
Date: 7 Jun 2001
NNTP-Posting-Host: 203.83.153.18 <====== HADDAD's IP Number

[2] Ray Haddad posts as "Rubber Band Man" (http://tinyurl.com/27yyt3 ):

From: Rubber_Band_...@hotmail.com (Rubber Band Man) <===== SOCKPUPPET
Date: 8 Jun 2001
NNTP-Posting-Host: 203.83.153.18 <====== HADDAD's IP Number

[3] Ray Haddad denies using SockPuppet: ( http://tinyurl.com/2akgwr ):

From: rhad...@iexpress.net.au (Ray Haddad) <===== HADDAD's name
Date: 9 Jun 2001
NNTP-Posting-Host: 203.83.153.18 <====== HADDAD's IP Number


[4] Ray Haddad fantasizes that, as "Rubber Band Man", he has a friend:
http://tinyurl.com/3b6sdu

* * * OOGIE WARNING!!! * * *

[5] Ray Haddad fantasizes that, as "Rubber Band Man", he is a woman:
http://tinyurl.com/2p2t4t

* * * ULTRA OOGIE WARNING!!! * * *

[6] Ray Haddad fantasizes that, as "Rubber Band Man", he is a 15 year
old GIRL: http://tinyurl.com/2xytcf

* * * WAY-BEYOND-OOGIE & BIZARRE WARNING!!! * * *

[7] Ray Haddad fantasizes about Mr. Hope's oral sex ability, calling
him an "exceedingly Cunning Linguist" on a web page Haddad created and
left up for *years* ( http://wasm.iwarp.com/photo.html ).


I. RECAP:

Ray Haddad attacked a young man (Eric H.) during a group discussion.
Someone else pointed out Haddad's smear campaign lies against Eric just
before Haddad posted one of his notorious "Dear Friends" [1] messages
to the group sayin' wot a terrible person Eric is, so that that post did
not draw the group censure Haddad usually manages to get with the
tactic.

Concerned about his image deflating, Ray Haddad resorts to using a SOCK
to support and make himself look bigger to the guys in
alt.magic.secrets. [2]

Stupidly, Haddad does not write any differently as his SockPuppet, and
he didn't know enough about Usenet (or e-mail) to understand message
header information.

Eric H. immediately recognizes "Rubber Band Man" as being Haddad and
starts to look into "RBM's" headers, explaining what he is doing. NOW
Ray Haddad understands his header mistake, so he switches machines and
posts a reply to Eric with a *different* IP address in an effort to
throw him off. Then he spouts a bunch of computer jargon, pretending
familiarity, and repeatedly ridicules Eric in many gossipy smear
campaign posts. In one of those posts Haddad *again* stupidly uses the
same machine that he did as his SockPuppet. [3]

II. Ray Haddad's Hilarious/Oogie Claims About
His SockPuppet, "Rubber Band Man":

1) "Rubber Band Man", Haddad claims, is *not* his sockpuppet, but an
Australian friend of his. "Rubber Band Man", he explains, knows what's
going on in the group because of having lurked for three years. [4]

2) Not content with imaging that he is his own friend, Ray Haddad
expands his fantasy. He then posts that "Rubber Band Man" is "a lot
younger than me and much prettier," that " RBM should also more properly
be called RBW", that is, now Ray Haddad has made himself "Rubber Band
Woman". [5]

3) After six months (at least) of fantasizing that he was female, when
someone tells him "You're nothing but a Walter Mitty of USENET", Ray
Haddad *himself*--out of the blue-- brings up "Rubber Band Man" again,
this time he claiming that "She's 15 now". [6]

III. HOW IT ALL TIES IN:

- January 3 2002: Ray Haddad decides he enjoys being a 15 year old girl
so much he has to post about it.

- By the autumn of that year, Ray Haddad starts posting to MW and meets
our Mr. Alan Hope.

- Ray Haddad sets up a Beyond-Ooogie-Bizarre Secret Admiration web page
for Mr. Hope, complete with a reference to oral sex. [7]

Miz Sylvia: "You praised Mr. Hope as:

" 'Alan Hope, Raconteur, exceedingly Cunning Linguist
and Sour Grapes Blogster'

"Why did you create a website to harbor a Secret
Admiration of Mr. Hope page to fantasize about
his oral sex ability? Why would that be so
important to you, Ray Haddad?

Mr. Hope: "I didn't see any tributes to anyone else."

Ray Haddad: "Then you should feel honored."
---------------------------------------------------

Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeew!

<preparing autoclave for Mr. Hope>

I set it for five cycles, Mr. Hope.

--
Sylvia ( Weasel-[WHAP!]ing is fun! )

"People have told you before in no uncertain terms that
your sleazy sexual attention is *most* unwanted and
that it gives them the oogs."

-- Miz Sylvia to Ray Haddad


"Eric,

"I read this whole thread from end to end
and can't even see what is bothering you.
Opinions were stated on both sides of an issue
where you claim to be fence sitting. It sounded
pretty clear to me that you were taking a side.
When called on your opinions and offered others,
you spat the dummy.

"Perhaps you just need a thicker skin there, mate.

"RBM

"Cloaking re-engaged after lurking here for many years."

-- "Rubber Band Man", Ray Haddad's SockPuppet
(before taking a Trans Walk on the Wild Side)

Ultraviolet

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Feb 13, 2008, 4:21:13 PM2/13/08
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Words are flying out like endless rain into a paper cup when Sylvia
<syl...@cliffhangerREMOVE.com> wrote:

<>

> Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeew!


What a weirdie Ray is. Good work, Sylvia.

--
UV
http://paula-light.blogspot.com

Ray Haddad

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Feb 13, 2008, 4:28:04 PM2/13/08
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On 13 Feb 2008 21:21:13 GMT, I said, "Pick a card, any card" and
Ultraviolet <viol...@newsguy.com> instead replied:

>Words are flying out like endless rain into a paper cup when Sylvia
><syl...@cliffhangerREMOVE.com> wrote:
>
><>
>
>> Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeew!
>
>What a weirdie Ray is. Good work, Sylvia.

I assumed you were smarter than that, Paula. You didn't read the
entire exchange at all, did you? There's a lot more proof that she's
wrong there but it appears that's not relevant to you. Good one.
--
Ray

Ultraviolet

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Feb 13, 2008, 4:35:37 PM2/13/08
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Words are flying out like endless rain into a paper cup when Ray Haddad
<rha...@iexpress.net.au> wrote:

<>

> I assumed you were smarter than that, Paula. You didn't read the
> entire exchange at all, did you?


'Course not.


> There's a lot more proof that she's wrong there but it appears that's
> not relevant to you. Good one.


I haven't seen you prove Sylvia wrong about anything yet, but if it's
so easy, give it a shot. What's stopping you?


--
UV
http://paula-light.blogspot.com

Ray Haddad

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Feb 13, 2008, 4:42:00 PM2/13/08
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On 13 Feb 2008 21:35:37 GMT, I said, "Pick a card, any card" and
Ultraviolet <viol...@newsguy.com> instead replied:

>Words are flying out like endless rain into a paper cup when Ray Haddad

Nothing except time and desire. She's beyond redemption. You, on the
other hand, really are smarter than she. But lazy, it appears. Don't
bother to look it up. Don't find the truth. Believe Sylvia's version
based on snips here and there instead of the entire exchange. You'll
find a great difference in reality and Sylvia's version. Just
remember, you're the one biting on her hook. I know the truth.
--
Ray

Stan (the Man)

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Feb 13, 2008, 4:50:28 PM2/13/08
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Ultraviolet <viol...@newsguy.com> wrote in
news:Xns9A438A47E797Fv...@64.209.0.90:

Facts.

--
Stan

Ultraviolet

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Feb 13, 2008, 5:07:47 PM2/13/08
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Words are flying out like endless rain into a paper cup when Ray
Haddad <rha...@iexpress.net.au> wrote:

> On 13 Feb 2008 21:35:37 GMT, I said, "Pick a card, any card" and
> Ultraviolet <viol...@newsguy.com> instead replied:

<>

>>I haven't seen you prove Sylvia wrong about anything yet, but if


>>it's so easy, give it a shot. What's stopping you?
>
> Nothing except time and desire. She's beyond redemption. You, on
> the other hand, really are smarter than she. But lazy, it appears.
> Don't bother to look it up. Don't find the truth. Believe Sylvia's
> version based on snips here and there instead of the entire
> exchange. You'll find a great difference in reality and Sylvia's
> version. Just remember, you're the one biting on her hook. I know
> the truth. --


Hmm, let's see . . .

1. Sylvia backs up her words with quotes and links.

2. Ray just blathers that he knows the truth, and doesn't have the
"time and desire" to prove it, but apparently he has the time and
desire to keep repeatedly screeching that Sylvia's wrong.

It's a dilemma, all right.

--
UV
http://paula-light.blogspot.com

Ray Haddad

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Feb 13, 2008, 5:58:32 PM2/13/08
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On 13 Feb 2008 22:07:47 GMT, I said, "Pick a card, any card" and
Ultraviolet <viol...@newsguy.com> instead replied:

>Words are flying out like endless rain into a paper cup when Ray
>Haddad <rha...@iexpress.net.au> wrote:
>
>> On 13 Feb 2008 21:35:37 GMT, I said, "Pick a card, any card" and
>> Ultraviolet <viol...@newsguy.com> instead replied:
>
><>
>
>>>I haven't seen you prove Sylvia wrong about anything yet, but if
>>>it's so easy, give it a shot. What's stopping you?
>>
>> Nothing except time and desire. She's beyond redemption. You, on
>> the other hand, really are smarter than she. But lazy, it appears.
>> Don't bother to look it up. Don't find the truth. Believe Sylvia's
>> version based on snips here and there instead of the entire
>> exchange. You'll find a great difference in reality and Sylvia's
>> version. Just remember, you're the one biting on her hook. I know
>> the truth. --
>
>
>Hmm, let's see . . .
>
>1. Sylvia backs up her words with quotes and links.

Hardly but if that's the way you see it, my statements alone are
facts.

>2. Ray just blathers that he knows the truth, and doesn't have the
>"time and desire" to prove it, but apparently he has the time and
>desire to keep repeatedly screeching that Sylvia's wrong.

Go ahead and use her links. I don't deny that what she has snipped
is real and factual. What I suggest to you is that there's always a
bigger picture which Sylvia ignores. The biggest in recent memory is
the deal with Eric H from over 8 years ago. She ignores all that he
ever did just to use his hatred of me as a weapon. People like him
have been on the web since day one. He's a bully but he never
managed to get to me. He tried, but he always fell down. Now, in a
childish revenge worthy of Sylvia, he includes a paragraph in the
FAQ for the newsgroup. Another attempt at "winning" something. Sort
of like Sylvia. She tries but here I remain until I choose to leave.

>It's a dilemma, all right.

Your choice. Like I stated earlier, I believed you to be smarter
than you appear now. Sorry for my error. Prove for yourself just
this one time who is being fully truthful and who is not. Go and
read the entire exchange and see for yourself instead of relying on
Sylvia's myopic picture which she paints with unrelated "facts."
--
Ray

Sylvia

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Feb 13, 2008, 6:16:46 PM2/13/08
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In article <15o6r3puf621r3mql...@4ax.com>,
Ray Haddad <rha...@iexpress.net.au> wrote:

> Ultraviolet wrote:
> > Sylvia wrote:
> ><>
> >
> >> Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeew!
.


> >What a weirdie Ray is. Good work, Sylvia.

<UNsnip!> Miz Sylvia wrote:

"NOTE: Footnotes up front to make it easier for Ray Haddad
in his reply to snip all of my cited proof, to insist that I
provide proof, and to then claim that he already provided
links elsewhere that prove he never used this SockPuppet
(neglecting to cite the supposed links, of course)."

</UNsnip!>

> I assumed you were smarter than that, Paula. You didn't read the
> entire exchange at all, did you? There's a lot more proof that she's
> wrong there but it appears that's not relevant to you. Good one.
> --
> Ray

<aside>

<CHORTLE!>

What did I tell yas?

BTW, Points of Added Interest for the MW Newbies:

1) Ray Haddad has repeatedly disparaged peeps for not postin' with
their real names (interferes with his RW stalking and blackmailing), and
has always claimed that he has NEVER posted usin' a different name.

2) Mr. Hope is straight.

3) Ray Haddad has presented himself as a rabid homophobe, and as a
sexual sleaze towards women.

4) Ray Haddad has been nasty to Mr. Hope since he (Haddad) first
started posting to MW around the autumn of 2002.

And, yet Haddad set up a Beyond-Ooogie-Bizarre Secret Admiration web
page for Mr. Hope, complete with a reference to oral sex, *years* ago
[7]... and *still* doesn't see why all this gives folks the oogs.

Miz Sylvia: "You praised Mr. Hope as:

" 'Alan Hope, Raconteur, exceedingly Cunning Linguist
and Sour Grapes Blogster'

"Why did you create a website to harbor a Secret
Admiration of Mr. Hope page to fantasize about
his oral sex ability? Why would that be so
important to you, Ray Haddad?

Mr. Hope: "I didn't see any tributes to anyone else."

Ray Haddad: "Then you should feel honored."
---------------------------------------------------

That proof (again) of Ray Haddad using a SockPuppet, and of using that
SockPuppet in weird ways, folks, is:

--

Ray Haddad

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Feb 13, 2008, 6:24:25 PM2/13/08
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On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 17:16:46 -0600, I said, "Pick a card, any card"
and Sylvia <syl...@cliffhangerREMOVE.com> instead replied:

>[7] Ray Haddad fantasizes about Mr. Hope's oral sex ability, calling
>him an "exceedingly Cunning Linguist" on a web page Haddad created and
>left up for *years* ( http://wasm.iwarp.com/photo.html ).

I'd still like to know exactly how a clever use of words (which I
stole) translates into a sexual comment. It's in your head, Sylvia.
I didn't mention sex at all. You did.
--
Ray

Ultraviolet

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Feb 13, 2008, 6:23:37 PM2/13/08
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<>


Okay, I was bored and read it. Here are some things I noted.

1. You wrote "chuck" full when it should be chock.
2. You do sound like Rubber Band Man.
3. Your explanation for why you couldn't be RBM was ridiculous.
4. You've used "mate" many times here on MW, for one thing.
5. Sylvia summarized that exchange accurately.

Sylvia also referenced your bringing up RBM another time and your
initial exchanges with Hope -- I haven't read those. But I have seen
the oogie web page.

Anything else?

--
UV
http://paula-light.blogspot.com

Sylvia

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Feb 13, 2008, 6:27:42 PM2/13/08
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Mr. Stan (the Man) wrote:

> Ultraviolet wrote:
> > Ray Haddad <rha...@iexpress.net.au> wrote:
> > <>
> >
> >> I assumed you were smarter than that, Paula. You didn't read the
> >> entire exchange at all, did you?

.
> > 'Course not.
.


> >> There's a lot more proof that she's wrong there

The proof is all about Ray Haddad being wrong.

> >> but it appears that's not relevant to you. Good one.
.
> > I haven't seen you prove Sylvia wrong about anything yet,

Neener!

> > but if it's so easy, give it a shot. What's stopping you?

.
> Facts.

<chortle!>

--
Sylvia

* * * ULTRA OOGIE WARNING!!! * * *

Ray Haddad fantasizes that, as "Rubber Band Man", he is a 15 year
old GIRL: http://tinyurl.com/2xytcf

* * * WAY-BEYOND-OOGIE & BIZARRE WARNING!!! * * *

Ray Haddad fantasizes about Mr. Hope's oral sex ability, calling

him an "exceedingly Cunning Linguist" on a web page Haddad created and
left up for *years* ( http://wasm.iwarp.com/photo.html ).

Miz Sylvia: "You praised Mr. Hope as:

boots

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Feb 13, 2008, 6:26:59 PM2/13/08
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Ray Haddad <rha...@iexpress.net.au> wrote:

Her methods might not be scientifically correct, but she got the
bottom line right, you definitely are a weirdie, yes?

--
just write it

Alan Hope

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Feb 13, 2008, 6:35:42 PM2/13/08
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Ray Haddad goes:

This is not going to run, Haddud.

It's only a "clever use of words" if there's a sexual connotation.
Otherwise, what's clever?


--
AH
http://grapes2dot0.blogspot.com


Ultraviolet

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Feb 13, 2008, 6:41:45 PM2/13/08
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Words are flying out like endless rain into a paper cup when Ray
Haddad <rha...@iexpress.net.au> wrote:


Hmm, could Ray *really* be this dumb? The guy claims to be a world
traveler, yada yada, so you'd think he'd have heard this expression
before and gotten the joke. I Googled it up to see how difficult it is
to find an explicit reference and found these within the first few
pages:


http://everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=1206910

http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Cunning_linguist

http://www.definition-of.com/cunning+linguist

http://www.cafepress.com/lesbianfunworld/4641438

So, Ray is either much, much stupider than I thought, or else he's
lying.

--
UV
http://paula-light.blogspot.com

Stan (the Man)

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Feb 13, 2008, 6:43:47 PM2/13/08
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Ultraviolet <viol...@newsguy.com> wrote in
news:Xns9A439FAAB65AAv...@64.209.0.90:

I'll take "both" for a thousand, Alex.

--
Stan

Sylvia

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Feb 13, 2008, 6:44:30 PM2/13/08
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In article <gpo6r352pi42lm4qo...@4ax.com>,
Ray Haddad <rha...@iexpress.net.au> wrote:

> Ultraviolet wrote:
> > Ray Haddad <rha...@iexpress.net.au> wrote:
> ><>
> >
> >> I assumed you were smarter than that, Paula. You didn't read the
> >> entire exchange at all, did you?
> >
> >'Course not.
> >
> >> There's a lot more proof that she's wrong there but it appears that's
> >> not relevant to you. Good one.
> >
> >I haven't seen you prove Sylvia wrong about anything yet, but if it's
> >so easy, give it a shot. What's stopping you?
>
> Nothing except time and desire.

I already provided all of the links to your bizarre, way-beyond-oogie
use of a SockPuppet, Haddad. And, if ya don't care, then why are do ya
keep postin' to this thread?

> She's beyond redemption.

<petite fit of laughter>

Redemption to *what*, Haddad? Salvation in the Church of Haddad? No one
worships you, you weasel.

Eric H.: "[...] Ray seems to think he's some form of god here
and everywhere and knows everything about
everything. It's time he learn he's mortal."

Ray Haddad: "Eric, Compared to you, I am a god. [...] You should
get help before you start thinking you can do
anything you want without consequences."

> You, on the other hand, really are smarter than she. But lazy, it
> appears. Don't bother to look it up. Don't find the truth.

No one has to look up *anything*, Haddad, I provided links to your
posts. The truth is archived, Haddad.

> Believe Sylvia's version based on snips here and there instead of the entire
> exchange. You'll find a great difference in reality and Sylvia's
> version. Just remember, you're the one biting on her hook.

"NOTE: Footnotes up front to make it easier for Ray Haddad

in his reply to snip all of my cited proof, to insist that I
provide proof, and to then claim that he already provided links
elsewhere that prove he never used this SockPuppet
(neglecting to cite the supposed links, of course)."

-- From Miz Sylvia's post

> I know the truth.
> --
> Ray

So do I. The difference is that I tell it--you don't.

--
Sylvia

Ray Haddad

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Feb 13, 2008, 6:54:17 PM2/13/08
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On 13 Feb 2008 23:23:37 GMT, I said, "Pick a card, any card" and
Ultraviolet <viol...@newsguy.com> instead replied:

>Words are flying out like endless rain into a paper cup when Ray


>Haddad <rha...@iexpress.net.au> wrote:
>
><>
>
>> Your choice. Like I stated earlier, I believed you to be smarter
>> than you appear now. Sorry for my error. Prove for yourself just
>> this one time who is being fully truthful and who is not. Go and
>> read the entire exchange and see for yourself instead of relying
>> on Sylvia's myopic picture which she paints with unrelated
>> "facts."
>
>Okay, I was bored and read it. Here are some things I noted.
>
>1. You wrote "chuck" full when it should be chock.

Wasn't me writing it.

>2. You do sound like Rubber Band Man.

LOL

That's funny.

>3. Your explanation for why you couldn't be RBM was ridiculous.

Well, it wasn't me. My computer, yes. Not me.

>4. You've used "mate" many times here on MW, for one thing.

At that time, I wasn't using it. That's an Aussie using it. I've
since adopted its use and find it suits my needs. That's not really
a selling point.

>5. Sylvia summarized that exchange accurately.

Perhaps her summary is biased? Just a bit? Nah. Couldn't be that.
After all she has really, really good reasons for dredging up the
end of a year (or more) long disagreement for pure fun. May I at
least assume she's doing it for fun?

>Sylvia also referenced your bringing up RBM another time and your
>initial exchanges with Hope -- I haven't read those. But I have seen
>the oogie web page.

What's "oogie" about it to you? I really can't figure out Sylvia's
reaction. She adds an element to it that's not there and then blames
me for it. If anything, you should be wondering why SHE's so
"oogie." After all, she translated it for you and you bought it.

>Anything else?

Is there a specific question you'd like answered? Far better to get
it from me than the one who writes fiction about me.
--
Ray

Ray Haddad

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On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 00:35:42 +0100, I said, "Pick a card, any card"
and Alan Hope <usenet....@gmail.com> instead replied:

Is it clever?
--
Ray

Ultraviolet

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Words are flying out like endless rain into a paper cup when Ray
Haddad <rha...@iexpress.net.au> wrote:

> On 13 Feb 2008 23:23:37 GMT, I said, "Pick a card, any card" and
> Ultraviolet <viol...@newsguy.com> instead replied:
>
>>Words are flying out like endless rain into a paper cup when Ray
>>Haddad <rha...@iexpress.net.au> wrote:
>>
>><>
>>
>>> Your choice. Like I stated earlier, I believed you to be smarter
>>> than you appear now. Sorry for my error. Prove for yourself just
>>> this one time who is being fully truthful and who is not. Go and
>>> read the entire exchange and see for yourself instead of relying
>>> on Sylvia's myopic picture which she paints with unrelated
>>> "facts."
>>
>>Okay, I was bored and read it. Here are some things I noted.
>>
>>1. You wrote "chuck" full when it should be chock.
>
> Wasn't me writing it.


Shrug. All the "Ray Haddad" posts in that exchange, plus the Rubber
Band Man posts, sound just like the Ray Haddad that I've read here.
You're not making your case at all.


>>2. You do sound like Rubber Band Man.
>
> LOL
>
> That's funny.
>
>>3. Your explanation for why you couldn't be RBM was ridiculous.
>
> Well, it wasn't me. My computer, yes. Not me.
>
>>4. You've used "mate" many times here on MW, for one thing.
>
> At that time, I wasn't using it. That's an Aussie using it. I've
> since adopted its use and find it suits my needs. That's not
> really a selling point.


I'm not selling anything, Ray. You're trying to get me to disbelieve
Sylvia, but you're failing.


>>5. Sylvia summarized that exchange accurately.
>
> Perhaps her summary is biased? Just a bit? Nah. Couldn't be that.
> After all she has really, really good reasons for dredging up the
> end of a year (or more) long disagreement for pure fun. May I at
> least assume she's doing it for fun?


Assume whatever you like. You asked me to read the thing, and I did.
I gave my opinion of some of it.


>>Sylvia also referenced your bringing up RBM another time and your
>>initial exchanges with Hope -- I haven't read those. But I have
>>seen the oogie web page.
>
> What's "oogie" about it to you?


The same thing that's oogie to the others.


> I really can't figure out Sylvia's reaction. She adds an element
> to it that's not there and then blames me for it. If anything, you
> should be wondering why SHE's so "oogie." After all, she
> translated it for you and you bought it.


She didn't translate anything. I clicked on the link and saw the
page for myself.


>>Anything else?
>
> Is there a specific question you'd like answered? Far better to
> get it from me than the one who writes fiction about me.


Nope.

--
UV
http://paula-light.blogspot.com

Sylvia

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Feb 13, 2008, 8:10:04 PM2/13/08
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Miz Ultraviolet wrote:

> Ray Haddad <rha...@iexpress.net.au> wrote:
>
> <>
> > Your choice. Like I stated earlier, I believed you to be smarter
> > than you appear now. Sorry for my error. Prove for yourself just
> > this one time who is being fully truthful and who is not. Go and
> > read the entire exchange and see for yourself instead of relying
> > on Sylvia's myopic picture which she paints with unrelated
> > "facts."

.


> Okay, I was bored and read it. Here are some things I noted.
>
> 1. You wrote "chuck" full when it should be chock.
> 2. You do sound like Rubber Band Man.
> 3. Your explanation for why you couldn't be RBM was ridiculous.
> 4. You've used "mate" many times here on MW, for one thing.
> 5. Sylvia summarized that exchange accurately.
>
> Sylvia also referenced your bringing up RBM another time and your
> initial exchanges with Hope -- I haven't read those. But I have seen
> the oogie web page.
>
> Anything else?

I provided links that prove that the person who Ray Haddad claims is
really a girl posted from *his* computer. Lessee, she would have been 14
years old then.

Even if Haddad hadn't been so stupid not to know that the headers would
prove he used a SockPuppet, compare the Sock's post to another one of
Haddad's and see if the first one ("RBM") sounds similar to Haddad's
posting or if it sounds as if it were written by a 14 year old girl:

"RMB": " "Eric,

"I [...] can't even see what is bothering you."

Ray H: " "Eric,

"[...] What on earth is wrong with what I said?"
-----------------------------------------------------------------
"RBM": "Perhaps you just need a thicker skin there, mate."

Ray H: "Wow, you have such a thin skin."
-----------------------------------------------------------------
"RBM": "When called on your opinions and offered others, you
spat the dummy. [a baby's pacifier] "

Ray H: "You are acting like the worst kind of schoolyard baby"
-----------------------------------------------------------------

Ray Haddad was too stupid to even alter the way his posts present
*visually* when he posted as "Rubber Band Man":

BOTH POSTS WITH FULL RESPONSES:

From: Rubber_Band_...@hotmail.com (Rubber Band Man) <==== SOCKPUPPET
Date: 8 Jun 2001
NNTP-Posting-Host: 203.83.153.18 <====== HADDAD's Computer

"Eric,

"I read this whole thread from end to end and can't even see
what is bothering you. Opinions were stated on both sides of
an issue where you claim to be fence sitting. It sounded pretty
clear to me that you were taking a side. When called on your
opinions and offered others, you spat the dummy.

"Perhaps you just need a thicker skin there, mate.

"RBM

"Cloaking re-engaged after lurking here for many years.

From: Ray Haddad <rhad...@iexpress.net.au>
Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001
NNTP-Posting-Host: 203.83.128.203 <=== HADDAD's Computer

"Eric,

"Wow, you have such a thin skin. What on earth is wrong with
what I said? Good grief. We've had some touchy people here
but you take the cake. You wrote your words, I took them
exactly from context, not out of context, disagreed with them
and you begin a flame war that never ends. Even Bruce Barnett
gave up on you later.

"Then, you come along and continually swipe at me from the
sidelines lacking the courage to discuss it by e-mail or here
where you simply lob in hand grenades once in a while. You are
acting like the worst kind of schoolyard baby and coward.
You earned this next line.

"Go away, kid. You bother me.

"Ray"

Message-ID for above: <0rptnt4e8vmb5p2j4...@4ax.com>
Haddad's Sock's post: http://tinyurl.com/27yyt3

--
Sylvia

"Well, do we have a cabal forming to deal with a person who
has not used an alias or hidden behind a false name? I am
who I say I am. And you, zenboy, are not. [...]

"For the record, I can assure you that I have only one
personna on this thing called USENET. I don't hide behind
an alias. I only use my legal and proper name. "

-- Ray Haddad, who "hides behind the skirts" of his
little girl SockPuppet Nov 2002

Alan Hope

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Feb 13, 2008, 9:18:06 PM2/13/08
to
Sylvia goes:

>"I read this whole thread from end to end and can't even see
> what is bothering you. Opinions were stated on both sides of
> an issue where you claim to be fence sitting. It sounded pretty
> clear to me that you were taking a side. When called on your
> opinions and offered others, you spat the dummy.
>
> "Perhaps you just need a thicker skin there, mate.

And this is supposed to be a 14-year-old girl?

Worst. Miscasting. Ever.

Since Kiri Te Kanawa did West Side Story, at least.

It sounds exactly like Haddud. Not the WSS thing, obvo. The other bit.


--
AH
http://grapes2dot0.blogspot.com


Alan Hope

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Feb 13, 2008, 9:19:57 PM2/13/08
to
Ray Haddad goes:

>Is it clever?

Nothing is clever. I asked you once, I'll ask it again: in what way am
I a linguist, and what's cunning about it?


--
AH
http://grapes2dot0.blogspot.com


Alan Hope

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Feb 13, 2008, 9:20:44 PM2/13/08
to
Ultraviolet goes:

>So, Ray is either much, much stupider than I thought, or else he's
>lying.

Why does it always have to be either/or with you people?


--
AH
http://grapes2dot0.blogspot.com


Sylvia

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Feb 13, 2008, 9:43:03 PM2/13/08
to
In article <me07r3hfa1ih87r25...@4ax.com>,
Ray Haddad <rha...@iexpress.net.au> wrote:

> Ultraviolet wrote:
> > Ray Haddad <rha...@iexpress.net.au> wrote:
> ><>
> >> Your choice. Like I stated earlier, I believed you to be smarter
> >> than you appear now.

But, Miz UV, you didn't reply, "Oh! Boy! Ray Haddad said I'm smart! Oh,
joy! Oh, Rapture! I will reverse what I've been saying about him and be
his VERY BESTEST friend now!", so:

> >>Sorry for my error.

<...>


> >2. You do sound like Rubber Band Man.

.
> LOL
.
> That's funny.
<...>

Yo, Laughing Boy:

Comparison of two posts originating from Ray Haddad's computer, one
which, Haddad claims, was actually written by a 14 year old girl:

14 yr old girl: "Eric,

"I [...] can't even see what is bothering you."

Ray Haddad: "Eric,

"[...] What on earth is wrong with what I said?"
-----------------------------------------------------------------

14 yr old girl: "Perhaps you just need a thicker skin there, mate."

Ray Haddad: "Wow, you have such a thin skin."
-----------------------------------------------------------------
14 yr old girl: "When called on your opinions and offered others, you

spat the dummy. [a baby's pacifier] "

Ray Haddad: "You are acting like the worst kind of schoolyard baby"
-----------------------------------------------------------------

Ray Haddad was too stupid to even alter the way his posts present
*visually* when he posted as "Rubber Band Man":

BOTH POSTS WITH FULL RESPONSE:

The supposed 14 year old girl:
From: Rubber_Band_...@hotmail.com (Rubber Band Man) <==== SOCKPUPPET
Date: 8 Jun 2001
NNTP-Posting-Host: 203.83.153.18 <====== HADDAD's Computer

"Eric,

"I read this whole thread from end to end and can't even see
what is bothering you. Opinions were stated on both sides of
an issue where you claim to be fence sitting. It sounded pretty
clear to me that you were taking a side. When called on your
opinions and offered others, you spat the dummy.

"Perhaps you just need a thicker skin there, mate.

"RBM

"Cloaking re-engaged after lurking here for many years.

From: Ray Haddad <rhad...@iexpress.net.au>
Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001
NNTP-Posting-Host: 203.83.128.203 <=== HADDAD's Computer

"Eric,

"Wow, you have such a thin skin. What on earth is wrong with
what I said? Good grief. We've had some touchy people here
but you take the cake. You wrote your words, I took them
exactly from context, not out of context, disagreed with them
and you begin a flame war that never ends. Even Bruce Barnett
gave up on you later.

"Then, you come along and continually swipe at me from the
sidelines lacking the courage to discuss it by e-mail or here
where you simply lob in hand grenades once in a while. You are
acting like the worst kind of schoolyard baby and coward.
You earned this next line.

"Go away, kid. You bother me.

"Ray"

Above post: http://tinyurl.com/284mov
Haddad's Sock's "14 year old girl" post: http://tinyurl.com/27yyt3

--
Sylvia

"Eric,

"You know of all people must know there's nothing
personal involved when I disagree with someone."

-- Ray Haddad lies to Eric H. June 3 2001

Ray Haddad: "Eric,

"If I were you, I'd stay out of this one. In
fact, one more word from you and I will call
your your office and speak with you there. [...]

"By the way, what is your reason for being so
hidden again? Last week it was because you live
in such a violent world there in downtown
Lexington, Ky.

"Your phone number is listed in the white pages
[...] It should come as no surprise to you that
your family members are so, so happy that a
friend of yours would call all the way from
Australia. Do you suppose they were eager to
confirm that the number I had was correct?

"Your move, Eric. Keeping silent WAS your best
move yet. Is the next move to keep making
mistakes?

Eric H.: "[...] Ray seems to think he's some form of god here
and everywhere and knows everything about
everything. It's time he learn he's mortal."

Ray Haddad: "Eric, Compared to you, I am a god. [...] You should
get help before you start thinking you can do
anything you want without consequences."

http://tinyurl.com/ys3aue

Ray Haddad

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Feb 13, 2008, 10:14:16 PM2/13/08
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On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 03:19:57 +0100, I said, "Pick a card, any card"

I have no idea what you mean here. It's something I wrote, what, 4
years ago or something? Get over it.
--
Ray

Bernie

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Feb 13, 2008, 10:48:02 PM2/13/08
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"Ray Haddad" <rha...@iexpress.net.au> wrote in message
news:sec7r3hd11uriu23h...@4ax.com...

Have you even the *slightest* idea from where your phrase
"cunning linguist" has its derivation, Ray?

Just curious.

Bernie.


Ray Haddad

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Feb 13, 2008, 11:08:13 PM2/13/08
to
On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 12:48:02 +0900, I said, "Pick a card, any card"
and "Bernie" <rain...@westnet.com.au> instead replied:

Aside from the movies Tomorrow Never Dies or Goldmember? I always
heard it was attributed to Shakespeare, in conversation, not in a
play. Then again, the name Christopher Wren comes to mind. It's also
the title of a book by a casual acquaintance of mine from my San
Diego days. He published it after I moved here. I once heard it
delivered during a speech by Edwin Newman. It was the source of much
laughter. Do you have some other sources?

Do note that I did admit to stealing it.

This could be fun. For a change.
--
Ray

Bernie

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Feb 14, 2008, 1:59:50 AM2/14/08
to

"Ray Haddad" <rha...@iexpress.net.au> wrote in message
news:5le7r31nvdjdmaroc...@4ax.com...

Bernie

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Feb 14, 2008, 2:07:52 AM2/14/08
to

"Ray Haddad" <rha...@iexpress.net.au> wrote in message
news:5le7r31nvdjdmaroc...@4ax.com...

OK, so if you are aware of the innuendo doesn't it rather
contradict your oft-repeated claim of never indulging in coarse
language on news groups?

Just wondered.

Bernie.

Bernie.


Ray Haddad

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Feb 14, 2008, 3:35:31 AM2/14/08
to
On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 16:07:52 +0900, I said, "Pick a card, any card"

>>>Have you even the *slightest* idea from where your phrase
>>>"cunning linguist" has its derivation, Ray?
>>>
>>>Just curious.
>>
>> Aside from the movies Tomorrow Never Dies or Goldmember? I
>> always
>> heard it was attributed to Shakespeare, in conversation, not in
>> a
>> play. Then again, the name Christopher Wren comes to mind. It's
>> also
>> the title of a book by a casual acquaintance of mine from my
>> San
>> Diego days. He published it after I moved here. I once heard it
>> delivered during a speech by Edwin Newman. It was the source of
>> much
>> laughter. Do you have some other sources?
>>
>> Do note that I did admit to stealing it.
>>
>> This could be fun. For a change.
>

>OK, so if you are aware of the innuendo doesn't it rather
>contradict your oft-repeated claim of never indulging in coarse
>language on news groups?
>
>Just wondered.

I missed the part where I used coarse language. That's all down to
others here. Your error, Bernie.
--
Ray

Alan Hope

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Feb 14, 2008, 6:21:56 AM2/14/08
to
Ray Haddad goes:

>On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 03:19:57 +0100, I said, "Pick a card, any card"
>and Alan Hope <usenet....@gmail.com> instead replied:
>>Ray Haddad goes:
>>>On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 00:35:42 +0100, I said, "Pick a card, any card"
>>>and Alan Hope <usenet....@gmail.com> instead replied:
>>>>Ray Haddad goes:
>>>>>On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 17:16:46 -0600, I said, "Pick a card, any card"
>>>>>and Sylvia <syl...@cliffhangerREMOVE.com> instead replied:

>>>>>>[7] Ray Haddad fantasizes about Mr. Hope's oral sex ability, calling
>>>>>>him an "exceedingly Cunning Linguist" on a web page Haddad created and
>>>>>>left up for *years* ( http://wasm.iwarp.com/photo.html ).

>>>>>I'd still like to know exactly how a clever use of words (which I
>>>>>stole) translates into a sexual comment. It's in your head, Sylvia.
>>>>>I didn't mention sex at all. You did.

>>>>This is not going to run, Haddud.

>>>>It's only a "clever use of words" if there's a sexual connotation.
>>>>Otherwise, what's clever?

>>>Is it clever?

>>Nothing is clever. I asked you once, I'll ask it again: in what way am
>>I a linguist, and what's cunning about it?

>I have no idea what you mean here. It's something I wrote, what, 4
>years ago or something? Get over it.

So what? Have you forgotten what it meant four years ago? If you don't
know what it means any more, how can you be so sure it isn't sexual?


--
AH
http://grapes2dot0.blogspot.com


boots

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Feb 14, 2008, 6:45:03 AM2/14/08
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Alan Hope <usenet....@gmail.com> wrote:

>If you don't know what it means any more, how can you be so sure it isn't sexual?

<g>

--
just write it

Ray Haddad

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Feb 14, 2008, 8:38:20 AM2/14/08
to
On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 12:21:56 +0100, I said, "Pick a card, any card"

I wrote a lot of things 4 years ago. I wrote two words that seem to
bother you tremendously. What I'd like to know is how I manage to
have so much power over you with two innocent words.
--
Ray

Alan Hope

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Feb 14, 2008, 11:36:55 AM2/14/08
to
Ray Haddad goes:

>I wrote a lot of things 4 years ago. I wrote two words that seem to
>bother you tremendously. What I'd like to know is how I manage to
>have so much power over you with two innocent words.

Why do you feel the need to lie?

--
AH
http://grapes2dot0.blogspot.com


Ray Haddad

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Feb 14, 2008, 2:36:04 PM2/14/08
to
On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 17:36:55 +0100, I said, "Pick a card, any card"

and Alan Hope <usenet....@gmail.com> instead replied:

>Ray Haddad goes:


>
>>I wrote a lot of things 4 years ago. I wrote two words that seem to
>>bother you tremendously. What I'd like to know is how I manage to
>>have so much power over you with two innocent words.
>
>Why do you feel the need to lie?

Don't try and change the subject, Hope. You're acting like a big
sissy. Grow up.
--
Ray

Alan Hope

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Feb 14, 2008, 6:18:55 PM2/14/08
to
Ray Haddad goes:

Is it sissy to be a cunning linguist, or to admire one?


--
AH
http://grapes2dot0.blogspot.com


Bernie

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Feb 14, 2008, 8:26:33 PM2/14/08
to

"Alan Hope" <usenet....@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:52j9r394fpns9l4eo...@4ax.com...
The screamingly amusing aspect of this whole schemozzle is that
Ray, being Ray, simply hasn't a clue on the subject.

I, however, would consider it undignified for an almost 80
year-old lady to have to spell it out for him.

So I won't.

Bernie.


Stan (the Man)

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Feb 14, 2008, 8:45:28 PM2/14/08
to
"Bernie" <rain...@westnet.com.au> wrote in
news:13r9qif...@corp.supernews.com:

Nor do you need to. Ray knows what the play on words refers to. He just
thinks he's clever in evading answering for his nitwittedness. What he
does't have a clue about is the fact that he's the only one who thinks
he's ever even remotely clever.

--
Stan


Ray Haddad

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Feb 14, 2008, 9:24:15 PM2/14/08
to
On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 01:45:28 GMT, I said, "Pick a card, any card"
and "Stan (the Man)" <newsN...@rvckids.us.NOSPAM> instead replied:

>"Bernie" <rain...@westnet.com.au> wrote in
>news:13r9qif...@corp.supernews.com:
>
>> "Alan Hope" <usenet....@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:52j9r394fpns9l4eo...@4ax.com...
>>> Ray Haddad goes:
>>>
>>>>On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 17:36:55 +0100, I said, "Pick a card, any
>>>>card"
>>>>and Alan Hope <usenet....@gmail.com> instead replied:
>>>>>Ray Haddad goes:
>>>
>>>>>>I wrote a lot of things 4 years ago. I wrote two words that
>>>>>>seem to
>>>>>>bother you tremendously. What I'd like to know is how I
>>>>>>manage to
>>>>>>have so much power over you with two innocent words.
>>>
>>>>>Why do you feel the need to lie?
>>>
>>>>Don't try and change the subject, Hope. You're acting like a
>>>>big
>>>>sissy. Grow up.
>>>
>>> Is it sissy to be a cunning linguist, or to admire one?
>>>

>>> http://grapes2dot0.blogspot.com
>>>
>> The screamingly amusing aspect of this whole schemozzle is that
>> Ray, being Ray, simply hasn't a clue on the subject.
>>
>> I, however, would consider it undignified for an almost 80
>> year-old lady to have to spell it out for him.
>>
>> So I won't.
>
>Nor do you need to. Ray knows what the play on words refers to. He just
>thinks he's clever in evading answering for his nitwittedness. What he
>does't have a clue about is the fact that he's the only one who thinks
>he's ever even remotely clever.

You think it's not clever to have writers from all corners of the
globe worrying over two innocent words that they translated into
something its not in their heads? I find it wildly amusing. I'm
laughing at you. All of you. And so are others. You go nuts over the
most idiotic things, Stan.
--
Ray

Ultraviolet

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Feb 14, 2008, 10:30:32 PM2/14/08
to
Ray Haddad <rha...@iexpress.net.au> left the cake out in the rain:

<>

> You think it's not clever to have writers from all corners of the
> globe worrying over two innocent words that they translated into
> something its not in their heads?


I find the above sentence wildly amusing.


> I find it wildly amusing. I'm laughing at you. All of you. And so
> are others.


Who's laughing at us, Ray? You, yourself, and your sock puppets?

Don't tell me they're emailing you and are too scared to post.


> You go nuts over the most idiotic things, Stan.


Words are idiotic, says Ray the writer who goes nuts every time
Sylvia posts about him, and in words too. Tsk.

--
UV
http://paula-light.blogspot.com

Stan (the Man)

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Feb 14, 2008, 10:34:51 PM2/14/08
to
Ray Haddad <rha...@iexpress.net.au> wrote in
news:hrt9r3t56jnf6g4g0...@4ax.com:

Pointing out that you're a nitwit who lacks any hint of cleverness
hardly qualifies as going nuts. It merely places me with the vast
majority of posters who find you to be a nitwit who lacks any hint of
cleverness, not to mention a contemptible shitwad. And only a
self-deluded asshole such as you would find that "wildly amusing."

--
Stan

serenebabe

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Feb 14, 2008, 11:34:05 PM2/14/08
to
On 2008-02-14 22:34:51 -0500, "Stan (the Man)"
<newsN...@rvckids.us.NOSPAM> said:
<...>
> nitwit
<...>

I like the word "nitwit."

--
It's All About We! (the column)
http://www.serenebabe.net/

Alan Hope

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Feb 14, 2008, 11:51:17 PM2/14/08
to
serenebabe goes:

>On 2008-02-14 22:34:51 -0500, "Stan (the Man)"
><newsN...@rvckids.us.NOSPAM> said:
><...>
>> nitwit
><...>

>I like the word "nitwit."

Hmm. This one's altogether too easy even for me.


--
AH
http://grapes2dot0.blogspot.com


Bernie

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Feb 15, 2008, 2:12:03 AM2/15/08
to

"Alan Hope" <usenet....@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:mh6ar3h9en654jt3p...@4ax.com...

> serenebabe goes:
>
>>On 2008-02-14 22:34:51 -0500, "Stan (the Man)"
>><newsN...@rvckids.us.NOSPAM> said:
>><...>
>>> nitwit
>><...>
>
>>I like the word "nitwit."
>
> Hmm. This one's altogether too easy even for me.

Would (g)natwit do then?

Bernie.

>
>
> --
> AH
> http://grapes2dot0.blogspot.com
>
>
>
>


boots

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Feb 15, 2008, 5:24:30 AM2/15/08
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"Stan (the Man)" <newsN...@rvckids.us.NOSPAM> wrote:

>the vast majority of posters who find you to be a nitwit

There may actually be such a vast majority. Hur hur hur...

--
just write it

Sylvia

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Feb 15, 2008, 1:21:49 PM2/15/08
to
Mr. Hope wrote:

> Heather/serenebabe goes:
> > "Stan (the Man)" said:
.
> ><...>
> >> nitwit
> ><...>
.


> >I like the word "nitwit."

> Hmm. This one's altogether too easy even for me.

I think this sez it best:


(Official) MW Archives: 18 Nov 2007
Subject: Re: your best advice for returning to Real Writing

Ray Haddad: "Okay, I'm part of the problem."

Heather/serenebabe: "Yeah, but you are cute."


<gag!>

Miz Ultraviolet: "No."

Ray Haddad: "Oh, dear. You came here, made a comment unsolicited."

Miz Ultraviolet: "Gawd."

Ray Haddad: " and you really believe I am tagging you?"

Miz Ultraviolet: "You're terribly confused."

Ray Haddad: "Get real, girly. You're hot for me"

Miz Ultraviolet: "Uh huh."

Ray Haddad: "You want me. You are hot for me. You know it. Just
admit it. I'm flattered by your attention, young
lady. I thought I'd left all that kind of thing
behind me but you make me feel young again."


<preparing autoclave for Miz UV>

--
Sylvia

Miz Sylvia: "As long as Haddad--"

Ray Haddad (interrupting): "Oops. You started off great"

Miz Sylvia: " <singing>

" 'INCHworm! INCHworm!
Measuring the marigolds' "

Sylvia

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Feb 15, 2008, 1:36:54 PM2/15/08
to
Miz Ultraviolet wrote:

<snip Miz UV's proof wot refutes The Idiot Haddad's weaseling>

> So, Ray is either much, much stupider than I thought, or else he's
> lying.

Don't sell him short, Miz UV (except for the InchWorm thing)--Ray Haddad
is Multi-UNtalented:

"Results 1 - 100 of 955 for stupid ray haddad ( lying OR liar )":

http://tinyurl.com/3cr935 or:

http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=stupid+ray+haddad&num=100&scoring=r&
hl=en&as_epq=&as_oq=lying+liar&as_eq=&as_ugroup=&as_usubject=&as_uauthors
=&lr=&as_drrb=q&as_qdr=&as_mind=1&as_minm=1&as_miny=1981&as_maxd=15&as_ma
xm=2&as_maxy=2008&safe=off

serenebabe

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Feb 15, 2008, 3:24:25 PM2/15/08
to
On 2008-02-14 23:51:17 -0500, Alan Hope <usenet....@gmail.com> said:

> serenebabe goes:
>
>> On 2008-02-14 22:34:51 -0500, "Stan (the Man)"
>> <newsN...@rvckids.us.NOSPAM> said:
>> <...>
>>> nitwit
>> <...>
>
>> I like the word "nitwit."
>
> Hmm. This one's altogether too easy even for me.

I did wonder if someone wouldn't be able to resist the set up.

But, it's true, of course. I do like the sound of the word.

serenebabe

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Feb 15, 2008, 3:25:19 PM2/15/08
to
On 2008-02-15 02:12:03 -0500, "Bernie" <rain...@westnet.com.au> said:

>
> "Alan Hope" <usenet....@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:mh6ar3h9en654jt3p...@4ax.com...
>> serenebabe goes:
>>
>>> On 2008-02-14 22:34:51 -0500, "Stan (the Man)"
>>> <newsN...@rvckids.us.NOSPAM> said:
>>> <...>
>>>> nitwit
>>> <...>
>>
>>> I like the word "nitwit."
>>
>> Hmm. This one's altogether too easy even for me.
>
> Would (g)natwit do then?

Nits and gnats. I'm getting into "Scrabulous" and just used both words.
I really suck at Scrabble/Scrabulous.

Sylvia

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Feb 15, 2008, 8:59:32 PM2/15/08
to
NOTE: Earlier in our show: Miz Sylvia provided proof that Ray
Haddad's Sock's post originated from the same computer as other Ray
Haddad posts after he denied that it was his SockPuppet.

In article <me07r3hfa1ih87r25...@4ax.com>,
Ray Haddad <rha...@iexpress.net.au> wrote:

> Ultraviolet wrote:
> >Ray Haddad <rha...@iexpress.net.au> wrote:
> >
> ><>
> >> Prove for yourself just this one time who is being fully truthful
> >> and who is not.

<...>
> >3. Your explanation for why you couldn't be RBM was ridiculous.
.
> Well, it wasn't me. My computer, yes. Not me.
<...>

<trap snaps shut>
[ FLOOD LIGHTS TURN ON ] [A SIREN SOUNDS ]

Weasel Contradiction Alert! Weasel Contradiction Alert!

"AMATEUR DETECTIVE WORK FAILED - SORRY ERIC -
IN A FEW YEARS, YOU MAY GET THE HANG OF IT

"No, I am not posting under another name of RBM, [...] RBM
CALLED ME YESTERDAY PROUDLY ANNOUNCING WHAT
WAS DONE in my support. RBM is from Perth. RBM is a
friend of mine here in Australia."

-- Ray Haddad claims that he has a "friend" in
Perth, and that his "friend", with a computer
*elsewhere*, posted as "Rubber Band Man"
to support him http://tinyurl.com/3b6sdu
(emphasis in second paragraph, mine).

<laughing!>

Well, that happened even quicker than I anticipated.

<scribbling higher "Desperation" value on Haddad's chart>

The Idiot Haddad also spent a lot of time spouting computer jargon as
"proof" and/or just outright lied in posts that his Sock, "Rubber Band
Man's" post did *not* originate from the computer that he (Haddad) used.

------------------------------------------------------------------------
This space reserved for Ray Haddad to snip all but that one quote and
repeat "In what way is that a contradiction, Sylvia? Learn how to read"
over and over...
------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
Sylvia

Michael: "Yeah- unlike Michael Moore this site cannot
provide details that back up ANY of its claims.
For instance- the doctor who claimed to treat
Kerry.... HE NEVER DID- there IS NO PROOF."

Ray Haddad: "If he says he did the treatment, he is the proof.
First hand testimony is the proof."

Mr. Rick: "I say I shot JFK. Is that proof enough for you?

"Your idiocy is dazzling."

Ray Haddad: "Look who just confessed to assassinating John Kennedy
and get back to me on who is an idiot."

Yes, folks, that is The Idiot Haddad's *entire* post [1]. He actually
thinks that what he wrote proves something other than his Endless
Stupidity (and his clueless reliance on IKYABWAI? in his replies).

You just can't make up STUPID like that.

[1] ( http://tinyurl.com/2c6g9e )

Ray Haddad

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Feb 15, 2008, 9:17:46 PM2/15/08
to
On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 19:59:32 -0600, I said, "Pick a card, any card"
and Sylvia <syl...@cliffhangerREMOVE.com> instead replied:

>NOTE: Earlier in our show: Miz Sylvia provided proof that Ray
>Haddad's Sock's post originated from the same computer as other Ray
>Haddad posts after he denied that it was his SockPuppet.

Still do. Get a grip, Sylvia.
--
Ray

Sylvia

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Feb 15, 2008, 10:08:42 PM2/15/08
to
In article <47b5f4e9$0$6476$4c36...@roadrunner.com>,
serenebabe <seren...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Alan Hope said:
> > serenebabe goes:
> >> "Stan (the Man)" said:

> >> <...>
> >>> nitwit
> >> <...>
.


> >> I like the word "nitwit."

.


> > Hmm. This one's altogether too easy even for me.
.
> I did wonder if someone wouldn't be able to resist the set up.

<...>

"I simply place things in my posts that can be construed
any way the reader wishes and watch the fun. Then, of
course, the call me stupid. That makes me laugh."

-- Ray Haddad: Everyone keeps him laughing.

--
Sylvia

Sylvia

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Feb 16, 2008, 1:21:00 AM2/16/08
to
Mr. Hope wrote:

> Ray Haddad goes:
> > Sylvia wrote:
.


> >>[7] Ray Haddad fantasizes about Mr. Hope's oral sex ability, calling
> >>him an "exceedingly Cunning Linguist" on a web page Haddad created and
> >>left up for *years* ( http://wasm.iwarp.com/photo.html ).

.


> >I'd still like to know exactly how a clever use of words (which I
> >stole) translates into a sexual comment. It's in your head, Sylvia.
> >I didn't mention sex at all. You did.
.
> This is not going to run, Haddud.

.


> It's only a "clever use of words"

Well, right off the bat ya know it ain't 'cause here "clever use of
words" is preceded with the attribution "Ray Haddad goes:".

> if there's a sexual connotation. Otherwise, what's clever?

"That's what I do. I astonish people."

-- Ray Haddad http://tinyurl.com/yv5dx4


Dr Zen: " 'England' -- one presumes you mean the UK -- "

Ray Haddad : "In the mean time, you nitpick over whether or not
the UK ought to be referred to as England or not."

(Excerpt, "The Memoirs of Ray Haddad, Self-Proclaimed
Official US Diplomatic Representative" http://snipurl.com/1okzj)

--
Sylvia

One Day in the MW Classroom...

Miz Ultraviolet: "So, Ray is either much, much stupider than I

thought, or else he's lying."

[Three hands fly up]

Mr. Hope: "Why does it always have to be either/or with
you people?"

Mr. Stan: "I'll take "both' for a thousand, Alex."

Miz Sylvia: "Don't sell him short, Miz UV (except for the

Sylvia

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Feb 16, 2008, 3:07:45 AM2/16/08
to
In article <sec7r3hd11uriu23h...@4ax.com>,
Ray Haddad <rha...@iexpress.net.au> wrote:

> Alan Hope wrote:
> > >Ray Haddad goes:

> >>Alan Hope wrote:
> >>>Ray Haddad goes:
> >>>> Sylvia wrote:
.
> >>>>>[7] Ray Haddad fantasizes about Mr. Hope's oral sex ability, calling
> >>>>>him an "exceedingly Cunning Linguist" on a web page Haddad created and
> >>>>>left up for *years* ( http://wasm.iwarp.com/photo.html ).
.
> >>>>I'd still like to know exactly how a clever use of words (which I
> >>>>stole) translates into a sexual comment. It's in your head, Sylvia.
> >>>>I didn't mention sex at all. You did.
.
> >>>This is not going to run, Haddud.
> >>>

> >>>It's only a "clever use of words" if there's a sexual connotation.
> >>>Otherwise, what's clever?
.
> >>Is it clever?
.


> >Nothing is clever. I asked you once, I'll ask it again: in what way am
> >I a linguist, and what's cunning about it?

.


> I have no idea what you mean here.

You praised Mr. Hope as:

"Alan Hope, Raconteur, exceedingly Cunning Linguist
and Sour Grapes Blogster"

1) Why are you referring to Mr. Hope as a "linguist"?

2) How could the quality of "cunning" possibly have anything to do with
being a linguist?

3) So, Ray Haddad, what's with you posting about your transsexual
fantasies in one group and presenting yourself as a Rabid Homophobe in
MW?

4) So, Ray Haddad, what's with you fantasizing that you're a GIRL child
with an erotic attraction for a grown heterosexual man whom you praised
as being "exceedingly" talented in female oral sexual gratification? A
fantasy *so* strong that you posted about it and created a secret web
page for it?

5) Why did you set up a Bizarre Way-Beyond-Ooogie Secret Admiration web
page so you could (for *years*) look at a photo of the DALAI LAMA while
indulging in your twisted Transsexual-Child/Adult sexual fantasies, Ray
Haddad?

6) While we're at it, what's with all of your Real World
threats/stalking/blackmail, not to mention your *bragging* about that?

> It's something I wrote, what, 4 years ago or something? Get over it.

The point is not only that *you* have not gotten over yer twisted
Transsexual-Child/Adult/Buddhist sexual fantasies, Ray Haddad, but that
it was fuckin' Bizarre Way-Beyond-Ooogie for you to have had them to
begin with.

Haven't you noticed that not even one of your enablers is supporting you
on this one, Haddad? Gene Royer sidled away from you with a kick when I
pointed out your fantasy's transsexual aspect. I haven't noticed towse
lying for you since she crashed and burned doing so on the Citizenship
thread. Josh Hill left in the wake of your gay-laming him (again).

Maybe it's turned out that even *they* all draw the line somewhere at
being associated with expressions of your amoral Pathological Narcissism
[1], and that you, Ray Haddad, have slimed your way below each one of
those boundaries.

At least as far as your twisted Transsexual-Child/Adult/Buddhist sexual
fantasies are concerned.

--
Sylvia

[1] Narcissistic Personality Disorder: RAY HADDAD, A Case Study
[Part I] http://tinyurl.com/ytmgn3

CHRONOLOGICAL ORDER of events (links for verification):

1. Ray Haddad posts as "Rubber Band Man" (http://tinyurl.com/27yyt3 ):
From: Rubber_Band_...@hotmail.com (Rubber Band Man)
Date: 8 Jun 2001 NNTP-Posting-Host: 203.83.153.18

2. Ray Haddad denies using SockPuppet: ( http://tinyurl.com/2akgwr ):
From: rhad...@iexpress.net.au (Ray Haddad)
Date: 9 Jun 2001 NNTP-Posting-Host: 203.83.153.18

3. Ray Haddad fantasizes that, as "Rubber Band Man", he has a friend:
http://tinyurl.com/3b6sdu

* * * OOGIE WARNING!!! * * *

4. Ray Haddad fantasizes that, as "Rubber Band Man", he is a woman:
http://tinyurl.com/2p2t4t

* * * ULTRA OOGIE WARNING!!! * * *

5. Ray Haddad fantasizes that, as "Rubber Band Man", he is a
15 year old GIRL: http://tinyurl.com/2xytcf

* * * WAY-BEYOND-OOGIE & BIZARRE WARNING!!! * * *

6. Ray Haddad fantasizes, as a GIRL, about Mr. Hope's oral sex ability,

Sylvia

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Feb 16, 2008, 3:16:09 AM2/16/08
to
Mr. Hope wrote:

> Ray Haddad goes:
>
> >I wrote a lot of things 4 years ago. I wrote two words that seem to
> >bother you tremendously. What I'd like to know is how I manage to
> >have so much power over you with two innocent words.
.
> Why do you feel the need to lie?

Narcissistic Personality Disorder: RAY HADDAD, A Case Study [Part I]
http://tinyurl.com/ytmgn3 HTH.

"I have freely admitted that I deliberately used an ambiguous
statement to IMPLY one thing while not admitting to my own
real notions on the subject."

-- Ray Haddad

"Why do you always feel the need to lie, Ray?"
- Mr. McClelland to Ray Haddad
http://tinyurl.com/2ghbrd

"I agree and admit that I use any means to
put forth my views."

-- Ray Haddad

"And fucking asshole idiot fruitloop #1 denying the truth again."
-- Mr. Rick to Ray Haddad
http://tinyurl.com/yozhh9

"Liar, or idiot, take your pick"
-- Mr. Marc to Ray Haddad http://tinyurl.com/yudczc,

"Ray is getting worse, isn't he? All this lying stuff."
-- gekko to Ray Haddad
http://tinyurl.com/366o69

"Ray, you are either a liar or an idiot or both."
-- Joshua P. Hill to Ray Haddad
http://tinyurl.com/24zhsh

--
Sylvia

Ray Haddad: "I have a reputation for truth, honor and integrity."

Miz Ultraviolet: "Maybe somewhere else. On MW you have a rep
as a fuckwitted liar."

"Ray, the world could set its clocks by asking you what
time it is and inverting the hands."

Joshua P. Hill to Ray Haddad

Sylvia

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Feb 16, 2008, 3:30:18 AM2/16/08
to
Miz Bernie wrote:

> "Alan Hope" wrote
> > Ray Haddad goes:


> >> Alan Hope wrote:
> >>>Ray Haddad goes:
> >
> >>>>I wrote a lot of things 4 years ago. I wrote two words that seem
> >>>>to bother you tremendously. What I'd like to know is how I manage
> >>>>to have so much power over you with two innocent words.
.
> >>>Why do you feel the need to lie?

.


> >>Don't try and change the subject, Hope. You're acting like a big
> >>sissy. Grow up.
.
> > Is it sissy to be a cunning linguist, or to admire one?

<cracking up with laughter>

> The screamingly amusing aspect of this whole schemozzle is that
> Ray, being Ray, simply hasn't a clue on the subject.
>
> I, however, would consider it undignified for an almost 80
> year-old lady to have to spell it out for him.
>
> So I won't.

Mitch Leary: "Sylvia, do you know how old Ray is..."

Miz Sylvia: "Do tell. I figure Ray Haddad's gotta be at least
247 years old in order to have had all of the
full careers he's claimed to have had."

Mitch Leary: "I mean really is?

Miz Sylvia: "Well, yeah, *really*... we get enough lies from
Haddad, thanks."

Mitch Leary: "He's almost 80! "

Miz Sylvia: " <making note>

"Thenk yew, that fits claims and observations
and it corroborates old (Official) MW Gossip
Line information nicely. So, Mitchell, is that
a well known fact in Usenet magic circles?"

Mitch Leary: "You're arguing with someone"

Miz Sylvia: "Oh, I'm not arguin' *with* Haddad. I post cited
quotes of him wildly contradicting himself. No
room for argument there. That's why he's
desperately throwin' around stupid stalking
accusations and mental health, Get A Life, and
'Nobody likes her' lames rather than address
the issue."

Mitch Leary: "who's probably old enough to be your great grandfather."

Miz Sylvia: " <nodding> That could explain Haddad's
constant confusion/delusions about his past,
about his present, and about who I am"

--
Sylvia

Jackson Pillock

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Feb 16, 2008, 7:17:38 AM2/16/08
to
Alan Hope <usenet....@gmail.com> wrote in
news:c497r3pmi5i5rsv84...@4ax.com:


...
.
>
> And this is supposed to be a 14-year-old girl?
>
> Worst. Miscasting. Ever.
>
> Since Kiri Te Kanawa did West Side Story, at least.
>
> It sounds exactly like Haddud. Not the WSS thing, obvo. The other bit.
>
>

'Opinions were stated...' That is sooooo Ray.

Stan (the Man)

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Feb 16, 2008, 9:32:48 AM2/16/08
to
serenebabe wrote:
>> On 2008-02-14 22:34:51 -0500, "Stan (the Man)"
>> <newsN...@rvckids.us.NOSPAM> said:
>> <...>
>> nitwit
>> <...>
>
> I like the word "nitwit."

Good thing.

--
Stan

Ultraviolet

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Feb 16, 2008, 10:26:50 AM2/16/08
to
Sylvia <syl...@cliffhangerREMOVE.com> left the cake out in the rain:

<>

> Haven't you noticed that not even one of your enablers is
> supporting you on this one, Haddad? Gene Royer sidled away from
> you with a kick when I pointed out your fantasy's transsexual
> aspect. I haven't noticed towse lying for you since she crashed
> and burned doing so on the Citizenship thread. Josh Hill left in
> the wake of your gay-laming him (again).


Looks like it's just Ray and his sock tonight. I'd do a parody of that
song, but I CBA, sorry.

--
UV
http://paula-light.blogspot.com

Sylvia

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Feb 16, 2008, 10:53:31 AM2/16/08
to
Mr. "Stan (the Man)" wrote:

> "Bernie" wrote
> > "Alan Hope" wrote
> >> Ray Haddad goes:
> >>>Alan Hope wrote:
> >>>>Ray Haddad goes:

.


> >>>>>I wrote a lot of things 4 years ago. I wrote two words that seem
> >>>>>to bother you tremendously. What I'd like to know is how I
> >>>>>manage to have so much power over you with two innocent words.
.
> >>>>Why do you feel the need to lie?

.


> >>>Don't try and change the subject, Hope. You're acting like a big
> >>>sissy. Grow up.
.
> >> Is it sissy to be a cunning linguist, or to admire one?

> > The screamingly amusing aspect of this whole schemozzle is that

> > Ray, being Ray, simply hasn't a clue on the subject.
> >
> > I, however, would consider it undignified for an almost 80
> > year-old lady to have to spell it out for him.
> >
> > So I won't.

> Nor do you need to. Ray knows what the play on words refers to. He just
> thinks he's clever in evading answering for his nitwittedness. What he
> does't have a clue about is the fact that he's the only one who thinks
> he's ever even remotely clever.

"He's unable to answer a direct question, he
has no clue when he's wrong and - worst of all -
he seems to think he's funny."

-- Mr. Pritchard describes Ray Haddad

--
Sylvia

Ray Haddad

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Feb 16, 2008, 12:36:16 PM2/16/08
to
On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 02:16:09 -0600, I said, "Pick a card, any card"

and Sylvia <syl...@cliffhangerREMOVE.com> instead replied:

>Narcissistic Personality Disorder: RAY HADDAD, A Case Study [Part I]
>http://tinyurl.com/ytmgn3 HTH.

Oh, the irony of it.

Here's you just a short few moments ago:

Miz Sylvia: "Oh, I'm not arguin' *with* Haddad. I post cited quotes
of him wildly contradicting himself. No room for argument there.
That's why he's desperately throwin' around stupid stalking
accusations and mental health, Get A Life, and 'Nobody likes her'
lames rather than address the issue."

Are you so desperate, Sylvia?
--
Ray

Ultraviolet

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Feb 16, 2008, 1:49:46 PM2/16/08
to
Ray Haddad <rha...@iexpress.net.au> left the cake out in the rain:

<>

> Are you so desperate, Sylvia?


Whatever she is, she's done a great job of exposing even more of your
idiocy and it's been a hoot to read.

--
UV
http://paula-light.blogspot.com

Donna

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Feb 16, 2008, 2:00:06 PM2/16/08
to
Ultraviolet wrote:
> Ray Haddad <rha...@iexpress.net.au> left the cake out in the rain:
>
> <>
>
>> Are you so desperate, Sylvia?
>
>
> Whatever she is, she's done a great job of exposing even more of your
> idiocy and it's been a hoot to read.
>


The sock thing is a classic . . .

Donna

Jackson Pillock

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Feb 16, 2008, 4:14:48 PM2/16/08
to
Ultraviolet <viol...@newsguy.com> wrote in
news:Xns9A464BBC92695v...@64.209.0.91:

Well it's one, two, three o'clock, four o'clock A sock!

That one?

Alan Hope

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Feb 16, 2008, 4:33:36 PM2/16/08
to
Ultraviolet goes:

>Ray Haddad <rha...@iexpress.net.au> left the cake out in the rain:

><>

>> Are you so desperate, Sylvia?

>Whatever she is, she's done a great job of exposing even more of your
>idiocy and it's been a hoot to read.

Amazing to learn that however repulsive he is here, he's capable of
being even more repulsive elsewhere. I dare say if you keep digging
you get to layers upon which no human eye may ever gaze. I reckon
Sylvia has done us all a favour.


--
AH
http://grapes2dot0.blogspot.com


Alan Hope

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Feb 16, 2008, 4:34:18 PM2/16/08
to
Donna goes:

It pushed the Dalai Lama thing right off the top of the charts.


--
AH
http://grapes2dot0.blogspot.com


Ultraviolet

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Feb 16, 2008, 6:36:29 PM2/16/08
to
Jackson Pillock <jackson...@hotmail.com> left the cake out in
the rain:

> Ultraviolet <viol...@newsguy.com> wrote in
> news:Xns9A464BBC92695violettenewsguycom@64.2

<>

>> Looks like it's just Ray and his sock tonight. I'd do a parody of
>> that song, but I CBA, sorry.
>>
>
> Well it's one, two, three o'clock, four o'clock A sock!
>
> That one?


No, the Pink one.


--
UV
http://paula-light.blogspot.com

Jackson Pillock

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Feb 16, 2008, 7:09:52 PM2/16/08
to
Ultraviolet <viol...@newsguy.com> wrote in
news:Xns9A469EC5A92F6v...@64.209.0.81:


Oh yes, now that you mention it, I did hear that over the wireless
yesterday lunchtime.

Alan Hope

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Feb 16, 2008, 7:25:37 PM2/16/08
to
Jackson Pillock goes:

"The wireless". You've gone native, John.


--
AH
http://grapes2dot0.blogspot.com


Jackson Pillock

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Feb 16, 2008, 7:41:47 PM2/16/08
to
Alan Hope <usenet....@gmail.com> wrote in
news:bnver31b740dncesf...@4ax.com:


>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>Oh yes, now that you mention it, I did hear that over the wireless
>>yesterday lunchtime.
>
> "The wireless". You've gone native, John.

Looked for the reference. All I could find was, 'Ah yes, poor Carruthers.
Gone native, you know.'

I've been reading Asterix in Britain with Jackson Jnr. Loving it. The British
Gauls drink hot water with milk and eat wild boar with mint sauce. Poor
Romans don't stand a chance.


>
>

Sylvia

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Feb 16, 2008, 8:12:44 PM2/16/08
to
Miz Bernie wrote:

> "Alan Hope" wrote
> > Ray Haddad goes:
> >> Alan Hope wrote:
> >>>Ray Haddad goes:
> >

> >>>>I wrote a lot of things 4 years ago. I wrote two words that seem
> >>>>to bother you tremendously. What I'd like to know is how I manage
> >>>>to have so much power over you with two innocent words.
.
> >>>Why do you feel the need to lie?
.
> >>Don't try and change the subject, Hope. You're acting like a big
> >>sissy. Grow up.
.
> > Is it sissy to be a cunning linguist, or to admire one?

.


> The screamingly amusing aspect of this whole schemozzle is that
> Ray, being Ray, simply hasn't a clue on the subject.
>
> I, however, would consider it undignified for an almost 80
> year-old lady to have to spell it out for him.
>
> So I won't.

Don't blame ya. It would be oogie for ya, too.

<considering>

So, would it be undignified for you to... ummmm...

<whispering>

... to ask Mr. Hope if the cunning thingy is true?

<cough!>

Just for the (Official) Record, of course. I'd ask, but as Supreme
Ruler... ummm... I'm sure I had a good excuse, I just can't think of it
right now 'cause... is it me, or is it kinda *warm* in here?

--
Sylvia

Bernie

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Feb 16, 2008, 8:14:26 PM2/16/08
to

"Alan Hope" <usenet....@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:tller3l8hisc11t4i...@4ax.com...
Not to mention that Ray didn't even know that it *was* a picture
of the Dalai Lama -- right there -- on the page -- that Ray
himself had compiled!

(Some mothers . . .)

Bernie.
>
>


Sylvia

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Feb 16, 2008, 8:40:14 PM2/16/08
to
In article <hrt9r3t56jnf6g4g0...@4ax.com>,
Ray Haddad <rha...@iexpress.net.au> wrote:

> "Stan (the Man)" wrote:
> >"Bernie" wrote
> >> Alan Hope wrote:
> >>> Ray Haddad goes:
> >>>>Alan Hope wrote:
> >>>>>Ray Haddad goes:

.


> >>>>>>I wrote a lot of things 4 years ago. I wrote two words that
> >>>>>>seem to bother you tremendously. What I'd like to know is how I
> >>>>>>manage to have so much power over you with two innocent words.
.
> >>>>>Why do you feel the need to lie?

> >>>>Don't try and change the subject, Hope. You're acting like a big

> >>>>sissy. Grow up.
.
> >>> Is it sissy to be a cunning linguist, or to admire one?
.
> >> The screamingly amusing aspect of this whole schemozzle is that
> >> Ray, being Ray, simply hasn't a clue on the subject.
> >>
> >> I, however, would consider it undignified for an almost 80
> >> year-old lady to have to spell it out for him.
> >>
> >> So I won't.

.
> >Nor do you need to. Ray knows what the play on words refers to. He just
> >thinks he's clever in evading answering for his nitwittedness. What he
> >does't have a clue about is the fact that he's the only one who thinks
> >he's ever even remotely clever.

.
> You think it's not clever to have writers from all corners of the
> globe

Haddad, you idiot, globes don't have corners.

> worrying over

"The screamingly amusing aspect of this whole schemozzle"

Yeah, Miz Bernie sure looks like she's "worrying". Not.

>two innocent words that they translated into
> something its not in their heads? I find it wildly amusing.

Expect continued entertainment.

> I'm laughing at you.

'Course. You don't get it.
.
> All of you.

'K.

> And so are others.

Haddad, you idiot, that don't make sense. If yer laughin' at ALL of us
because ya think we're ALL "worrying", then who the heck are the
"others" ya claim are laughin' at us?

Oh, wait. Sorry, Miz UV, I forgot ya fielded that already:

"Who's laughing at us, Ray? You, yourself, and your sock puppets?
Don't tell me they're emailing you and are too scared to post."

-- Miz Ultraviolet to Ray Haddad

> You go nuts over the most idiotic things, Stan.

Lessee, Haddad... you post about your fantasy of being a 14 year old
girl, and you set up a Secret Web page so you can praise and fantasize
about Mr. Hope's oral sex ability (as far as *female* genitalia), but
you think that *Mr. Stan* is going "nuts".

Still, yes, Ray Haddad, I do agree that you are one of "the most idiotic
things".

--
Sylvia

[1] Ray Haddad fantasizes that, as "Rubber Band Man", he has a friend:
http://tinyurl.com/3b6sdu

* * * OOGIE WARNING!!! * * *

[2] Ray Haddad fantasizes that, as "Rubber Band Man", he is a woman:
http://tinyurl.com/2p2t4t

* * * ULTRA OOGIE WARNING!!! * * *

[3] Ray Haddad fantasizes that, as "Rubber Band Man", he is a 15 year
old GIRL: http://tinyurl.com/2xytcf

* * * WAY-BEYOND-OOGIE & BIZARRE WARNING!!! * * *

[4] Ray Haddad fantasizes about Mr. Hope's oral sex ability, calling

Bernie

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"Sylvia" <syl...@cliffhangerREMOVE.com> wrote in message
news:sylvia-711A0D....@news.lga.highwinds-media.com...

Well, now, Sylvia dear -- I'd consider that to be a highly
<cough!> *private* matter between Mr. Hope and his partner, as
indeed it would be between any other couple. Although . . .

. . . I do seem to vaguely recollect it once being blatantly
published, not to mention luridly illustrated, in that truly
shocking publication The Karma Sutra.
(Position No. 69, perhaps?)

But Ray, of course, being Ray, will argue his way out of it to
the death. (Either that, or as I suggested above, he hasn't a
clue.)

> I'd ask, but as Supreme
> Ruler... ummm... I'm sure I had a good excuse, I just can't
> think of it
> right now 'cause... is it me, or is it kinda *warm* in here?

> Sylvia

If not now, luvvy, it's very likely going to be -- and soon!

Bernie.


Ray Haddad

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Feb 17, 2008, 12:31:56 AM2/17/08
to
On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 14:13:04 +0900, I said, "Pick a card, any card"
and "Bernie" <rain...@westnet.com.au> instead replied:

>But Ray, of course, being Ray, will argue his way out of it to
>the death. (Either that, or as I suggested above, he hasn't a
>clue.)

But Bernie, I don't have to argue at all. I'm correct. There were
only two words in question until the word you are now discussing was
added by none other than Sylvia. How special is that? Now, of
course, you have a third word to discuss which doesn't pertain to
anything I've written.
You were wrong, silly girl. But you'll never admit it.
Sal Towse in MW to Sylvia, 8 February, 2008

Pies de Arcilla

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Feb 17, 2008, 1:13:44 AM2/17/08
to
boots wrote:
> Her methods might not be scientifically correct, but she got the
> bottom line right, you definitely are a weirdie, yes?

I don't see the connection between the sock puppet and the page that
mentions Hope. Other than Ray,
but I mean I don't see that he put the page up in the persona of RBM.

Bernie

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Feb 17, 2008, 2:03:53 AM2/17/08
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"Ray Haddad" <rha...@iexpress.net.au> wrote in message
news:ljhfr3lghj09bsodp...@4ax.com...

> On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 14:13:04 +0900, I said, "Pick a card, any
> card"
> and "Bernie" <rain...@westnet.com.au> instead replied:
>
>>But Ray, of course, being Ray, will argue his way out of it to
>>the death. (Either that, or as I suggested above, he hasn't a
>>clue.)
>
> But Bernie, I don't have to argue at all. I'm correct. There
> were
> only two words in question

Which are *exactly* the two words under discussion -- the same
two words that have been used forever as an alternative for that
third word -- the same two words that I earlier suggested you
didn't have a clue about -- and how many times have I cautioned
you about using words you don't know the meaning of?

>until the word you are now discussing

Which is the word you most certainly *implied*, whether you
realised it or not.

was
> added by none other than Sylvia. How special is that?

Do you even know the meaning of the word "special'?

Now, of
> course, you have a third word to discuss which doesn't pertain
> to
> anything I've written.

In view of the foregoing, that is gobbledegook!

> You were wrong, silly girl. But you'll never admit it.

And that is balderdash!

Bernie.

Ray Haddad

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Feb 17, 2008, 3:12:48 AM2/17/08
to
On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 16:03:53 +0900, I said, "Pick a card, any card"

and "Bernie" <rain...@westnet.com.au> instead replied:

>"Ray Haddad" <rha...@iexpress.net.au> wrote in message
>news:ljhfr3lghj09bsodp...@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 14:13:04 +0900, I said, "Pick a card, any
>> card"
>> and "Bernie" <rain...@westnet.com.au> instead replied:
>>
>>>But Ray, of course, being Ray, will argue his way out of it to
>>>the death. (Either that, or as I suggested above, he hasn't a
>>>clue.)
>>
>> But Bernie, I don't have to argue at all. I'm correct. There
>> were
>> only two words in question
>
>Which are *exactly* the two words under discussion -- the same
>two words that have been used forever as an alternative for that
>third word -- the same two words that I earlier suggested you
>didn't have a clue about -- and how many times have I cautioned
>you about using words you don't know the meaning of?

Stop playing schoolmarm, Bernie. I wrote two words. If YOU took them
to mean something else then that's on you, not me. You made a
translation in your head. You're both culprit and victim in this.

> >until the word you are now discussing
>
>Which is the word you most certainly *implied*, whether you
>realised it or not.

Who cares? Clearly only a handful of you do. The rest of the world
is content to see two innocent words.

> was
>> added by none other than Sylvia. How special is that?
>
>Do you even know the meaning of the word "special'?
>
> Now, of
>> course, you have a third word to discuss which doesn't pertain
>> to
>> anything I've written.
>
>In view of the foregoing, that is gobbledegook!

You misspelled brilliant.

>> You were wrong, silly girl. But you'll never admit it.
>
>And that is balderdash!

It was a missapplication of a sig-quote which I fixed below.

>Bernie.
>
>> Sal Towse in MW to Sylvia, 8 February, 2008

Here it is fixed up.
--
Ray

"You were wrong, silly girl. But you'll never admit it."

boots

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Feb 17, 2008, 4:57:49 AM2/17/08
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Ray Haddad <rha...@iexpress.net.au> wrote:

> I'm correct.

The Jews in Auschwitz were probably "correct". Fat lot of good it did
them. Now, step this way please, right in here...

--
just write it

boots

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Feb 17, 2008, 5:23:19 AM2/17/08
to

What the hell are you going on about here?

--
just write it

Bernie

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Feb 17, 2008, 6:26:42 AM2/17/08
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"Ray Haddad" <rha...@iexpress.net.au> wrote in message
news:osqfr394k5l6usgt7...@4ax.com...

> On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 16:03:53 +0900, I said, "Pick a card, any
> card"
> and "Bernie" <rain...@westnet.com.au> instead replied:
>
>>"Ray Haddad" <rha...@iexpress.net.au> wrote in message
>>news:ljhfr3lghj09bsodp...@4ax.com...
>>> On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 14:13:04 +0900, I said, "Pick a card, any
>>> card"
>>> and "Bernie" <rain...@westnet.com.au> instead replied:
>>>
>>>>But Ray, of course, being Ray, will argue his way out of it
>>>>to
>>>>the death. (Either that, or as I suggested above, he hasn't a
>>>>clue.)
>>>
>>> But Bernie, I don't have to argue at all. I'm correct. There
>>> were
>>> only two words in question
>>
>>Which are *exactly* the two words under discussion -- the same
>>two words that have been used forever as an alternative for
>>that
>>third word -- the same two words that I earlier suggested you
>>didn't have a clue about -- and how many times have I cautioned
>>you about using words you don't know the meaning of?
>
> Stop playing schoolmarm, Bernie.

I might do that -- if YOU stop playing the schoolyard jerk.

I wrote two words. If YOU took them
> to mean something else then that's on you, not me. You made a
> translation in your head. You're both culprit and victim in
> this.

Same old same old -- two "innocent words". (Why do we bother?
Perhaps he might prefer just being ignored?)


>
>> >until the word you are now discussing
>>
>>Which is the word you most certainly *implied*, whether you
>>realised it or not.
>
> Who cares? Clearly only a handful of you do. The rest of the
> world
> is content to see two innocent words.

<Sigh> Would that the rest of the world were here to confirm or
deny that.

>> was
>>> added by none other than Sylvia. How special is that?
>>
>>Do you even know the meaning of the word "special'?
>>
>> Now, of
>>> course, you have a third word to discuss which doesn't
>>> pertain
>>> to
>>> anything I've written.
>>
>>In view of the foregoing, that is gobbledegook!
>
> You misspelled brilliant.

Another sigh. (Maybe it's just in the blood?)


>
>>> You were wrong, silly girl. But you'll never admit it.
>>
>>And that is balderdash!
>
> It was a missapplication of a sig-quote which I fixed below.
>
>>Bernie.
>>
>>> Sal Towse in MW to Sylvia, 8 February, 2008
>
> Here it is fixed up.

So, where *is* that misapplication of a sig quote?

Bernie.

boots

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Feb 17, 2008, 6:37:12 AM2/17/08
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"Bernie" <rain...@westnet.com.au> wrote:

> Why do we bother?

The question I have is, what are you bothering to do?

Ray is here to reap attention by being a weaselworder.

Are you trying to straighten him out?
Are you trying to communicate with him?

Achievable goals are found within the realm of the possible.

--
just write it

Ray Haddad

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Feb 17, 2008, 6:53:27 AM2/17/08
to
On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 02:57:49 -0700, I said, "Pick a card, any card"
and boots <n...@no.no> instead replied:

I smell gas.
--
Ray

Ray Haddad

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Feb 17, 2008, 6:52:53 AM2/17/08
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On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 20:26:42 +0900, I said, "Pick a card, any card"

You can pretend all you want, slap the back of your mates here and
even make up your own version of events if you wish, Bernie, but you
can't ever take those two words and force them to be something
they're not. The truth is that they become what they meant to you
inside your brain and only there. Inside of others, it differs.
Some, who aren't prone to hysteria, see only two words.

> I wrote two words. If YOU took them
>> to mean something else then that's on you, not me. You made a
>> translation in your head. You're both culprit and victim in
>> this.
>
>Same old same old -- two "innocent words". (Why do we bother?
>Perhaps he might prefer just being ignored?)

Go for it, Bernie. I don't have a problem with that at all. Others
do, but not this guy. Look, it bears repeating because it's a fact.
They are two innocent words, each having a specific meaning. When
put together, some people still see those two words. Others
translate them into something else. You can pretend all day and all
night that I wrote a third word but I did not. Don't play too hard
at it, Bernie. There are those who probably consider you very, very
stupid if you keep on pretending that you don't get it.

>>> >until the word you are now discussing
>>>
>>>Which is the word you most certainly *implied*, whether you
>>>realised it or not.
>>
>> Who cares? Clearly only a handful of you do. The rest of the
>> world
>> is content to see two innocent words.
>
><Sigh> Would that the rest of the world were here to confirm or
>deny that.

They remain in stunned silence of your awesome translational skills.

>>> was
>>>> added by none other than Sylvia. How special is that?
>>>
>>>Do you even know the meaning of the word "special'?
>>>
>>> Now, of
>>>> course, you have a third word to discuss which doesn't
>>>> pertain
>>>> to
>>>> anything I've written.
>>>
>>>In view of the foregoing, that is gobbledegook!
>>
>> You misspelled brilliant.
>
>Another sigh. (Maybe it's just in the blood?)

Or under your skin.

>>>> You were wrong, silly girl. But you'll never admit it.
>>>
>>>And that is balderdash!
>>
>> It was a missapplication of a sig-quote which I fixed below.
>>
>>>Bernie.
>>>
>>>> Sal Towse in MW to Sylvia, 8 February, 2008
>>
>> Here it is fixed up.
>
>So, where *is* that misapplication of a sig quote?

You kept it below. In my last post you seemed a bit confused but I
neglected to set it up properly. It is set up correctly now. Watch
and I'll do it again.

boots

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Feb 17, 2008, 7:10:24 AM2/17/08
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Ray Haddad <rha...@iexpress.net.au> wrote:

The chili had beans in it.

--
just write it

Ray Haddad

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Feb 17, 2008, 8:52:29 AM2/17/08
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On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 05:10:24 -0700, I said, "Pick a card, any card"

and boots <n...@no.no> instead replied:

>Ray Haddad <rha...@iexpress.net.au> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 02:57:49 -0700, I said, "Pick a card, any card"
>>and boots <n...@no.no> instead replied:
>>
>>>Ray Haddad <rha...@iexpress.net.au> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm correct.
>>>
>>>The Jews in Auschwitz were probably "correct". Fat lot of good it did
>>>them. Now, step this way please, right in here...
>>
>>I smell gas.
>
>The chili had beans in it.

Heh. I knew you couldn't resist that grounder.
--
Ray

Ultraviolet

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Feb 17, 2008, 10:12:30 AM2/17/08
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"Bernie" <rain...@westnet.com.au> left the cake out in the rain:

<>

> Not to mention that Ray didn't even know that it *was* a picture
> of the Dalai Lama -- right there -- on the page -- that Ray
> himself had compiled!


Ray's made such a total arse of himself over that webpage I almost feel
sorry for him.

Almost.

--
UV
http://paula-light.blogspot.com

Sylvia

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Feb 17, 2008, 10:26:57 AM2/17/08
to
Mr. boots wrote:

> Ray Haddad <rha...@iexpress.net.au> wrote:
> >Ultraviolet <viol...@newsguy.com> instead replied:
> >>Sylvia wrote:
> >><>
> >>
> >>> Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeew!
.
> >>What a weirdie Ray is. Good work, Sylvia.
.
> >I assumed you were smarter than that, Paula. You didn't read the
> >entire exchange at all, did you? There's a lot more proof that she's
> >wrong there but it appears that's not relevant to you. Good one.

> Her methods might not be scientifically correct,

<amused>

Not correct, how? Like I didn't preface my evidence with an abstract?

I *did* use the Fourier transform ion cyclotron resonance whatsit...
*and* a diamond-cutting hamster. They're listed on page 47.

> but she got the bottom line right, you definitely are a weirdie, yes?

Ray Haddad's Way Beyond Ooogie! That's an (Official) MW Given.

--
Sylvia (It's 'cause I didn't use any litmus paper or beakers, right?)


CHRONOLOGICAL ORDER of events (links are for verification only):

[1] Ray Haddad's "Dear Friends" post ( http://tinyurl.com/2vkbqy ):

From: rhad...@iexpress.net.au (Ray Haddad) <===== HADDAD's name
Date: 7 Jun 2001
NNTP-Posting-Host: 203.83.153.18 <====== HADDAD's IP Number

[2] Ray Haddad posts as "Rubber Band Man" (http://tinyurl.com/27yyt3 ):

From: Rubber_Band_...@hotmail.com (Rubber Band Man) <===== SOCKPUPPET
Date: 8 Jun 2001
NNTP-Posting-Host: 203.83.153.18 <====== HADDAD's IP Number

[3] Ray Haddad denies using SockPuppet: ( http://tinyurl.com/2akgwr ):

From: rhad...@iexpress.net.au (Ray Haddad) <===== HADDAD's name
Date: 9 Jun 2001
NNTP-Posting-Host: 203.83.153.18 <====== HADDAD's IP Number

[4] Ray Haddad fantasizes that, as "Rubber Band Man", he has a friend:
http://tinyurl.com/3b6sdu

* * * OOGIE WARNING!!! * * *

[5] Ray Haddad fantasizes that, as "Rubber Band Man", he is a woman:
http://tinyurl.com/2p2t4t

* * * ULTRA OOGIE WARNING!!! * * *

[6] Ray Haddad fantasizes that, as "Rubber Band Man", he is a 15 year
old GIRL: http://tinyurl.com/2xytcf

* * * WAY-BEYOND-OOGIE & BIZARRE WARNING!!! * * *

[7] Ray Haddad fantasizes about Mr. Hope's oral sex ability, calling

Bernie

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Feb 17, 2008, 11:24:33 AM2/17/08
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"boots" <n...@no.no> wrote in message
news:ll6gr3duuvf9n1iu1...@4ax.com...

> "Bernie" <rain...@westnet.com.au> wrote:
>
>> Why do we bother?
>
> The question I have is, what are you bothering to do?
>
> Ray is here to reap attention by being a weaselworder.

Not exactly, boots. He's simply not savvy enough to deliberately
initiate a situation such as this. (I.e, the weaselling is
resorted to only when he realises he has to get himself out of
yet another goofed up attempt to appear clever with words he
doesn't know the meaning of.)


>
> Are you trying to straighten him out?

Only if "set him straight" means the same thing.

> Are you trying to communicate with him?

Only in the sense of pointing out his offensiveness.

> Achievable goals are found within the realm of the possible.

Hah! Who needs to score goals against one who personally scores
so many own-goals?

Bernie.
>
> --
> just write it


Bernie

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Feb 17, 2008, 12:54:18 PM2/17/08
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"Ray Haddad" <rha...@iexpress.net.au> wrote in message

<some snippage, all of which can be referred back to>

> They are two innocent words, each having a specific meaning.
> When
> put together, some people still see those two words. Others
> translate them into something else.

The two "innocent" words you used were "cunning linguist", Ray --
a phrase known all over the English-speaking world as a not too
subtle euphemism for a specific sexual position.

>You can pretend all day and

night that I wrote a third word but I did not.

Nowhere did I say that you wrote that third word. What I did say
was that you were probably clueless about it -- which proved to
be correct.

> Don't play too hard
at it, Bernie.
>There are those who probably consider you very, very
> stupid if you keep on pretending that you don't get it.

Kindly point out where I (even once) pretended not to get it.

The plain truth, Ray, is that you once again displayed your
abysmal ignorance by using words you didn't know the meaning
of -- and are now resorting to your usual tiresome codswallop in
an unsuccessful attempt to weasel out of it.

Bernie.

Alan Hope

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Feb 17, 2008, 1:42:15 PM2/17/08
to
Ultraviolet goes:

>"Bernie" <rain...@westnet.com.au> left the cake out in the rain:

><>

>> Not to mention that Ray didn't even know that it *was* a picture
>> of the Dalai Lama -- right there -- on the page -- that Ray
>> himself had compiled!

>Ray's made such a total arse of himself over that webpage I almost feel
>sorry for him.

>Almost.

Ah, the mastery of comic timing, right there on the page. You're now
ready to go into the world.


--
AH
http://grapes2dot0.blogspot.com


Alan Hope

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Feb 17, 2008, 2:11:03 PM2/17/08
to
Jackson Pillock goes:

>>>Oh yes, now that you mention it, I did hear that over the wireless
>>>yesterday lunchtime.

>> "The wireless". You've gone native, John.

>Looked for the reference. All I could find was, 'Ah yes, poor Carruthers.
>Gone native, you know.'

There's no reference. It's a common phrase.

>I've been reading Asterix in Britain with Jackson Jnr. Loving it. The British
>Gauls drink hot water with milk and eat wild boar with mint sauce. Poor
>Romans don't stand a chance.

Great books. Asterix and the Belgians is two-times funny whether you
read it in French or Dutch. A tribute to the translatorial arts. Two
sets of jokes.


--
AH
http://grapes2dot0.blogspot.com


Alan Hope

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Feb 17, 2008, 2:11:56 PM2/17/08
to
Sylvia goes:

>Just for the (Official) Record, of course. I'd ask, but as Supreme
>Ruler

The answer is no. I don't do that sort of thing any more, not indeed
any other sort of thing. I'm fucking married, right? I mean duh.


--
AH
http://grapes2dot0.blogspot.com


Sylvia

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Feb 17, 2008, 3:30:35 PM2/17/08
to
Mr. Hope wrote:

> Donna goes:
> >Ultraviolet wrote:
> >> Ray Haddad <rha...@iexpress.net.au> left the cake out in the rain:
>
> >> <>
>
> >>> Are you so desperate, Sylvia?
>
> >> Whatever she is, she's done a great job of exposing even more of your
> >> idiocy and it's been a hoot to read.
>
> >The sock thing is a classic . . .
>
> It pushed the Dalai Lama thing right off the top of the charts.

Nonsense. That, too, shall live on.

You can count on it. It's *another* classic. Pointing out Ray Haddad
Stupidity/Amorality is part of the MW culture.

--
Sylvia

Sylvia

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Feb 17, 2008, 3:41:41 PM2/17/08
to
Miz Ultraviolet wrote:

> "Bernie" wrote:
>
> <>
> > Not to mention that Ray didn't even know that it *was* a picture
> > of the Dalai Lama -- right there -- on the page -- that Ray
> > himself had compiled!

.


> Ray's made such a total arse of himself over that webpage I almost feel
> sorry for him.
>
> Almost.

I like the part where, when other peeps said *they* saw the Dalai Lama
photo he put on his web page, Haddad THEN claimed that *Google* must
have inserted it as an advertisement!

<petite fit of laughter>

Mr. Hope: "So many questions. The main one being, WTF is the story
with the Dalai Lama? Did you think you could hide
your hero-worship behind sardonic wit?"

Ray Haddad: "I have no idea what you are referring to. Must be
one of those Google ads all over the place. They
change often."

Miz Sylvia: "Here's yer fat code, Haddad:

" <TD>
<P ALIGN="center"><!--begin image_13--><a
href="http://sour-grapes.blogsource.com/"><img
src="/images/alanhope.jpg" border=0 width=66
height=100></a><!--end image_13-->
<P ALIGN="center"><B><!--begin heading_14-->Alan Hope,
Raconteur, exceedingly Cunning Linguist and Sour Grapes
Blogster.<!--end heading_14--></B></P>
</TD>
"Explain how Google could insert 'image_13',
you lying weasel."

Mr. Hope: "You couldn't, not even if you knew what it was."

Ray Haddad: "Apparently, only you even know that Dalai Lama
thing exists. I couldn't find it.

Miz Sylvia: " 'That Dalai Lama thing'? Oh, very nice, Haddad."

--
Sylvia

"My conscience is triggered by events that I actually do
not those you create in a fictional accounting of what
you thought I wrote. I once again ask you to go back and
read what I wrote exactly. Leave off your silly quotes and
cites and just read the entire reply which I wrote to
Hope-a-dope again. You pretend your not dishonest, Sylvia,
but for you to continue on the tack you have chosen simply
proves my suggestion that you are dishonest."

-- Ray "Try to Baffle Them with Incomprehensible Writing"
Haddad

Alan Hope

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Feb 17, 2008, 4:09:21 PM2/17/08
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Ray Haddad goes:

Hey, death-camp jokes! You guys are hilarious!


--
AH
http://grapes2dot0.blogspot.com


Ray Haddad

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Feb 17, 2008, 4:16:03 PM2/17/08
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On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 01:24:33 +0900, I said, "Pick a card, any card"

and "Bernie" <rain...@westnet.com.au> instead replied:

>"boots" <n...@no.no> wrote in message

>news:ll6gr3duuvf9n1iu1...@4ax.com...
>> "Bernie" <rain...@westnet.com.au> wrote:
>>
>>> Why do we bother?
>>
>> The question I have is, what are you bothering to do?
>>
>> Ray is here to reap attention by being a weaselworder.
>
>Not exactly, boots. He's simply not savvy enough to deliberately
>initiate a situation such as this. (I.e, the weaselling is
>resorted to only when he realises he has to get himself out of
>yet another goofed up attempt to appear clever with words he
>doesn't know the meaning of.)

As one of my regular catches here, it seems beyond your ability to
see that you are being snagged. Every time. It's OK, Bernie. You'll
get better with age.
--
Ray

Ray Haddad

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Feb 17, 2008, 4:17:09 PM2/17/08
to
On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 02:54:18 +0900, I said, "Pick a card, any card"

and "Bernie" <rain...@westnet.com.au> instead replied:

>The two "innocent" words you used were "cunning linguist", Ray

Exactly. End of story. Unless you make it up along the way. Then it
becomes YOUR story, not mine. Some day you'll learn.
--
Ray

Ray Haddad

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Feb 17, 2008, 4:18:26 PM2/17/08
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On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 20:11:56 +0100, I said, "Pick a card, any card"
and Alan Hope <usenet....@gmail.com> instead replied:

>Sylvia goes:
>
>>Just for the (Official) Record, of course. I'd ask, but as Supreme
>>Ruler
>
>The answer is no. I don't do that sort of thing any more, not indeed
>any other sort of thing. I'm fucking married, right? I mean duh.

Watch out with that innuendo stuff. Stan'll clobber you. Or try.
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Ray

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