Becoming Outdoorsy
Steve Pritchard
real; the places that are a bit wilder than, say, nice shiny cities.
I mean, Outdoors is very pretty in places, and I don't mind looking at
it, but the idea of spending protracted length of time in the open
isn't something that has ever really grabbed me. In an attempt to give
a decent shot at overcoming this aversion I took a pretty extreme trip
around Thailand a few weeks ago. The trip involved a lot of trekking
through jungles, white water rafting, elephant riding, camping in the
wilds and so on. And, to my surprise, I actually enjoyed it all. I came
back quite perky (if a little fatigued) and only a minor injury to my
right tibia, so it was generally seen as a success. So much so, that
I'm planning to do something similar over Xmas.
This time it's going to be Egypt. A 22 day trip covering as much of the
country as I can manage; felucca journeys, camel-back rides into the
desert to stay in oases, Luxor, Karnak, Abu Simbel, Cairo, Giza and so
on. However, recent research tells me that night time temperatures in
the deserts of Egypt during December can fall to slightly below zero
centigrade. Which bothers me.
So, anyone here outdoorsy enough to tell me how one stops one's
eyeballs freezing if they sleep outside (i.e. under the stars with no
tent) in this kinda temperature?
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Josh Hill
That's quite an ambitious trip. There's plenty of cold weather camping
gear -- a warm sleeping bag sounds like the key here -- but I'm afraid
I can't advise you inasmuch as my cold-weather camping method has
always consisted of checking into a motel when the water bottles
freeze, and that's /with/ a tent.
BTW, I spent a couple of weeks in Egypt many years ago & loved it. No
trekking through the desert, but I did see Luxor and Karnak and of
course the Great Pyramids and Egyptian Museum. Marvelous, all, except
for Cairo itself, which was a crowded, not exactly atmospheric place.
Luxor, OTOH -- the cabs were still horse drawn, the people out of the
pages of National Geographic. Then flew across the Sinai and spent the
second week diving in the Red Sea, which was an experience in itself
-- richer even than the Great Barrier Reef, wall to wall fish, a wreck
to dive in, a coral drop-off into pelagic waters with white-tipped
reef sharks zipping by right in font of your nose. Other than the
brief sojourn at the pyramids, which basically have city on one side
and desert on the other, the resort in Sinai (built originally by the
Israelis), that was my only desert experience. Don't remember it as
having been particularly cold at night, but IIRC it was autumn rather
than winter, and I slept in a hotel, so had no exposure to late
night/early morning temperature drops. Do have vivid recollections of
the stars in the desert, though. Spectacular.
--
Josh
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Ejucaided Redneck
wrote:
> So, anyone here outdoorsy enough to tell me how one stops one's
> eyeballs freezing if they sleep outside (i.e. under the stars with no
> tent) in this kinda temperature?
Down-filled mummy bag.
Whole bunch of 'em at Amazon: http://tinyurl.com/2yysc2
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> So, anyone here outdoorsy enough to tell me how one stops one's
> eyeballs freezing if they sleep outside (i.e. under the stars with no
> tent) in this kinda temperature?
Yes. Don't sleep outside in that kinda temperature.
HTH
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Wendy Chatley Green
<Steve_P...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
:So, anyone here outdoorsy enough to tell me how one stops one's
:eyeballs freezing if they sleep outside (i.e. under the stars with no
:tent) in this kinda temperature?
Zero degrees Centigrade is not cold enough to freeze eyeballs,
especially the eyeballs of those alive enough to close their eyelids
while sleeping. I've slept in colder weather in a mummy bag (no pun
intended).
If you're truly concerned, bring a padded sleep mask with you. It
will give your guides something to talk about.
It is cold enough to want to keep your head covered if you don't have
a mummy bag. A knit watch cap works to keep your head heat in your
scalp where it belongs.
--
Wendy Chatley Green
RJM
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What splendid advice! Succinxly or succinctly put, with just that
touch ("no pun intended" - droll) of typical WCG levity. Pritchard,
ignore the rest, absorb the best, you won't regret it, nearly.
Especially ignore my advice - get your arse into a decent hotel like
a normal person, you tight Northern git.
boots
>So, anyone here outdoorsy enough to tell me how one stops one's
>eyeballs freezing if they sleep outside (i.e. under the stars with no
>tent) in this kinda temperature?
Real Men don't worry about that shit, cause they're stayin at the best
hotel in town instead of sleepin on the ground where scorpions and
snakes and petite-woman-simulacra can crawl into their sleepin bags
and cozy up to their bloodstream for dinner.
Of course those hottytotty "Real Men" are gonna get crabs from the
unwashed linen and have their wallets lifted in the middle of the
night, but "Real Men" can take it because they're "Real Men".
My advice is to stay home and sleep in your own bed wif yer own
wimmen, and if you feel the need to be a Real Man you can peepee
outside oncet in a while. The great outdoors is great if you keep it
there, but if you keep up the jungle-bwana crap pretty soon you won't
be able to get through the door because of your humongous backpack and
the chainsaw on your belt next to the machete will make your pants
slide down your ass and everybody will think you're a crazed plumber.
--
The sane answer, to madness, is insanity.
boots
>On Sep 2, 7:31 pm, "Steve Pritchard" <Steve_Pritch...@ntlworld.com>
>wrote:
>
>> So, anyone here outdoorsy enough to tell me how one stops one's
>> eyeballs freezing if they sleep outside (i.e. under the stars with no
>> tent) in this kinda temperature?
>
>Down-filled mummy bag.
That has an almost prophetic sound to it, eh?
boots
It's the little earsies that get cold first, and the nosie; best to
keep those in something warm. I'll leave off the description of what
"something warm" might be, to avoid offending, since the lechers among
us already know how best to keep their parts warm.
boots
"tight Northern git"? What d'yoo mean by the word "tight" there, d'ya
mean "drunk", or "cheap"?
RJM
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Cheap, in this instance, though I understand the bloke likes a bevy.
Make, by the way, the Fat Boy. I agree that it's the humdingingest
hog. Badly want one myself, actually, but I can't justify the loot.
When the Hayabusa starts to scare me (more), maybe I'll make a
change. There's a shop here blacks them up. All the chrome, the
handlebars, mudguards, surrounds. There's just one thing left metallic,
those beautiful wheels. Expensive job sure, but hey, sony money.
boots
I just look and drool a bit myself. It's not the money alone (though
yes, they are fairly outrageous) that keeps me from acquiring one of
the gorgeous beasts, it's having long ago become too tired of time
spent horizontally with a bike between my legs; just too tired of
going around delicious corners that should be dry pavement, on the
edge of traction, to find some idjut's put sand or oil there, y'know?
For me it's 4 wheels or 2 feet nowadays. I could cry over missing the
good parts of the ride, but I'm still breathing and have most of my
original skin tissue. Age, advances on us if we stay lucky.
Wendy Chatley Green
:
:It's the little earsies that get cold first, and the nosie; best to
:keep those in something warm. I'll leave off the description of what
:"something warm" might be, to avoid offending, since the lechers among
:us already know how best to keep their parts warm.
A hand-knit cozy.
--
Wendy Chatley Green
RJM
Yees, well, don't get all American on me if I say age
is the factor that would get me off a bike that corners fast
onto a bike that corners eventually. I'm still getting my
knee down sharp and drifting long, but I'm definitely two
or three seconds of the pace these days. I've always
had in mind owning a Harley when the time came, and the
time is nigh. I'm old enough, and sensible enough.
I mean, let's face it, you ain't going anywhere fast on that,
are you?
gekko
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Missed your lovely self, Wendy.
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gekko
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has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories
instead of theories to suit facts. - Sir Arthur Conan Doyle (1859-
1930), Sherlock Holmes
boots
I don't click tinyurls, sorry, I run windoze and it's dumb enough to
eat whatever it's fed, including malware.
It's the hopping along trying to keep the thing upright after the
tires give up traction that's hard on a fellow's leg, and bad enough
with a lightweight bike. I'll leave the thrills to those like
yourself who feel young enough to risk a limp for a thrill; I get too
many thrills already, and sometimes yearn for boredom... but that
doesn't keep me from appreciating the sheer beauty of something like a
Fat-Boy.
Sylvia
> "Steve Pritchard" wrote:
.
> > So, anyone here outdoorsy enough to tell me how one stops one's
> > eyeballs freezing if they sleep outside (i.e. under the stars with no
> > tent) in this kinda temperature?
.
> Down-filled mummy bag.
And, dogs. Sounds like a three dog night, but bring four (4) good-sized
dogs just in case. Get into yer sleepin' bag and then have them dogs
puppy pile all around ya.
--
Sylvia (don't forget the Snausages (tm)
"Walls make the room. Definitely walls.
Ask Fortunato if you don't believe me."
-- Mr. FRM
roy
0 centigrade is 32 F, right? Shit, hate to say it--that ain't cold enough to
worry about it. But, I gotta say, this one time I was on safari, like you
said, and I shot an elephant in my pajamas. See, I thought I felt a draft,
that's what woke me up. How he . . . well, you know.
Anyway, have fun!
Roy
Not sure of the current conventions on MW regarding blatant promotion of
blogs, Steve. Google "calypso people". That's weird enough I should be at
the top.
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B--
>
>> "Steve Pritchard" wrote:
> .
>> > So, anyone here outdoorsy enough to tell me how one stops one's
>> > eyeballs freezing if they sleep outside (i.e. under the stars
>> > with no
>> > tent) in this kinda temperature?
> .
>> Down-filled mummy bag.
>
lean-tos in January, north of Edmonton. That's Edmonton, Alberta,
Canada.
No we were not insane, it was part of an outdoor education course, and
we're tough up here. Well, we only ended up having to be toughish, it
was an extremely warm winter and only went down to 0 C, so would be
fairly similar night temperatures. I was sleeping in a down-filled
mummy bag. It was almost too warm. Of course I was between four other
14-year old girls and the fire, but I was on the outside edge and the
fire died during the night, so it was a fair test of a mummy bag.
Oh, my brother went a few years later, and the temperature hit
about -40 C. Not being truly insane, they made them sleep in cabins.
Missed the whole out under the stars thing, poor baby.
--
Beth
"If earth is an urban planet, i'm moving to the suburbs." - Zero
Steve Pritchard
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> especially the eyeballs of those alive enough to close their eyelids
> while sleeping. I've slept in colder weather in a mummy bag (no pun
> intended).
>
> If you're truly concerned, bring a padded sleep mask with you. It
> will give your guides something to talk about.
>
> It is cold enough to want to keep your head covered if you don't have
> a mummy bag. A knit watch cap works to keep your head heat in your
> scalp where it belongs.
Okay, sounds like a plan. Bought myself a four seasons mummy bag on
Sunday.
Still worried about the freezing of eyeballs though. In the desert and
stuff.
And good to see you around Wendy!
Steve Pritchard
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> What splendid advice! Succinxly or succinctly put, with just that
> touch ("no pun intended" - droll) of typical WCG levity. Pritchard,
> ignore the rest, absorb the best, you won't regret it, nearly.
Wendy is the epitome of common sense.
> Especially ignore my advice - get your arse into a decent hotel like
> a normal person, you tight Northern git.
Tight? This bloody trip is costing me an arm and a leg already. And
they don't have decent hotels out in the desert. man.
Steve Pritchard
>>>a normal person, you tight Northern git.
>>
>> "tight Northern git"? What d'yoo mean by the word "tight" there,
>> d'ya
>> mean "drunk", or "cheap"?
>
> Cheap, in this instance, though I understand the bloke likes a bevy.
If you are buying.
Steve Pritchard
The mummy bag thing seems to take care of the ears. The nose is large
enough that losing an inch or two to frostbite wouldn't be tragic.
Steve Pritchard
> My advice is to stay home and sleep in your own bed wif yer own
> wimmen, and if you feel the need to be a Real Man you can peepee
> outside oncet in a while. The great outdoors is great if you keep it
> there, but if you keep up the jungle-bwana crap pretty soon you won't
> be able to get through the door because of your humongous backpack
> and
> the chainsaw on your belt next to the machete will make your pants
> slide down your ass and everybody will think you're a crazed plumber.
Ah, but this time it's pyramids, temples and oases. Travelling lighter
and all that.
Gotta get this stuff in there while I'm still capable.
Steve Pritchard
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> Hey--you're still here anyway.
Yup, still am. Where've you been then?
> 0 centigrade is 32 F, right? Shit, hate to say it--that ain't cold
> enough to
> worry about it. But, I gotta say, this one time I was on safari, like
> you
> said, and I shot an elephant in my pajamas. See, I thought I felt a
> draft,
> that's what woke me up. How he . . . well, you know.
>
> Anyway, have fun!
>
> Roy
>
> Not sure of the current conventions on MW regarding blatant promotion
> of
> blogs, Steve. Google "calypso people". That's weird enough I should
> be at
> the top.
Found it and tagged it. Will look it over later.
Steve Pritchard
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> That's quite an ambitious trip. There's plenty of cold weather
> camping
> gear -- a warm sleeping bag sounds like the key here -- but I'm
> afraid
> I can't advise you inasmuch as my cold-weather camping method has
> always consisted of checking into a motel when the water bottles
> freeze, and that's /with/ a tent.
See, the hotel thing is there - in places - but a good few nights of
the trip are going to be a tad remote. It'll make me appreciate the
hotels more when I get back to them. The last trip did exactly the same
thing; two star hotels felt like a five-star Hilton after three days in
a jungle.
> BTW, I spent a couple of weeks in Egypt many years ago & loved it. No
> trekking through the desert, but I did see Luxor and Karnak and of
> course the Great Pyramids and Egyptian Museum. Marvelous, all, except
> for Cairo itself, which was a crowded, not exactly atmospheric place.
Going to do those, plus Aswan and Abu Simbel - it's gonna be a bit of a
race!
> Luxor, OTOH -- the cabs were still horse drawn, the people out of the
> pages of National Geographic. Then flew across the Sinai and spent
> the
> second week diving in the Red Sea, which was an experience in itself
> -- richer even than the Great Barrier Reef, wall to wall fish, a
> wreck
> to dive in, a coral drop-off into pelagic waters with white-tipped
> reef sharks zipping by right in font of your nose.
I was torn between the desert hikes and the Red Sea, but last time I
did scuba I had an ear infection. Stupidly I still dived and it left me
deaf in my right ear. I've been warned that diving again might do some
pretty serious damage to my inner ear; I should really do without
losing my sense of balance, for example.
> Other than the
> brief sojourn at the pyramids, which basically have city on one side
> and desert on the other, the resort in Sinai (built originally by the
> Israelis), that was my only desert experience. Don't remember it as
> having been particularly cold at night, but IIRC it was autumn rather
> than winter, and I slept in a hotel, so had no exposure to late
> night/early morning temperature drops. Do have vivid recollections of
> the stars in the desert, though. Spectacular.
The latter is something I'm really looking forward too.
Steve Pritchard
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> On Sep 2, 7:31 pm, "Steve Pritchard" <Steve_Pritch...@ntlworld.com>
> wrote:
>
>> So, anyone here outdoorsy enough to tell me how one stops one's
>> eyeballs freezing if they sleep outside (i.e. under the stars with
>> no
>> tent) in this kinda temperature?
>
> Down-filled mummy bag.
That exactly what I went out and bought Ej!
Steve Pritchard
> Ejucaided Redneck <rls...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>>Down-filled mummy bag.
>
> That has an almost prophetic sound to it, eh?
Well, it's for Egypt - what else would I have?
Steve Pritchard
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> Mr. Ejucaided Redneck wrote:
>
>> "Steve Pritchard" wrote:
> .
>> > So, anyone here outdoorsy enough to tell me how one stops one's
>> > eyeballs freezing if they sleep outside (i.e. under the stars with
>> > no
>> > tent) in this kinda temperature?
> .
>> Down-filled mummy bag.
>
> And, dogs. Sounds like a three dog night, but bring four (4)
> good-sized
> dogs just in case.
I could never eat four.
Steve Pritchard
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> Once in my far-distant youth I went on a school outing camping out in
> lean-tos in January, north of Edmonton. That's Edmonton, Alberta,
> Canada.
> Oh, my brother went a few years later, and the temperature hit
> about -40 C. Not being truly insane, they made them sleep in cabins.
> Missed the whole out under the stars thing, poor baby.
That fact, right there, is one of the reasons I turned down the chance
to work in Edmonton a few years back.
-40C?
That's Siberia, for Christ's sake!
Steve Pritchard
news:Xns999FE067DE16Fne...@130.81.64.196...> news:5k0vehF...@mid.individual.net:
>> So, anyone here outdoorsy enough to tell me how one stops one's
>> eyeballs freezing if they sleep outside (i.e. under the stars with
>> no
>> tent) in this kinda temperature?
>
>
> HTH
You're a real gem.
Honestly.
RJM
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Q.E.D.
boots
Maybe not but the brown part would be on the wrong end.
boots
Josh Hill
<Steve_P...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
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>> That's quite an ambitious trip. There's plenty of cold weather
>> camping
>> gear -- a warm sleeping bag sounds like the key here -- but I'm
>> afraid
>> I can't advise you inasmuch as my cold-weather camping method has
>> always consisted of checking into a motel when the water bottles
>> freeze, and that's /with/ a tent.
>
>See, the hotel thing is there - in places - but a good few nights of
>the trip are going to be a tad remote. It'll make me appreciate the
>hotels more when I get back to them. The last trip did exactly the same
>thing; two star hotels felt like a five-star Hilton after three days in
>a jungle.
So I arrive in Cairo, and naturally, the first question I ask is
"Where's the Nile?"
"Oh, it's over there, behind the Hilton."
Sometimes, progress sucks. I hope Luxor and Karnak are still as
remarkably unspoiled as they were twenty years ago.
>> BTW, I spent a couple of weeks in Egypt many years ago & loved it. No
>> trekking through the desert, but I did see Luxor and Karnak and of
>> course the Great Pyramids and Egyptian Museum. Marvelous, all, except
>> for Cairo itself, which was a crowded, not exactly atmospheric place.
>
>Going to do those, plus Aswan and Abu Simbel - it's gonna be a bit of a
>race!
Heh, yes, but it's enough. I did those in a week, spent a week diving.
Would have liked more time at the Egyptian Museum, which is beyond
belief, and the astonishing temples at Luxor and Karnak, and more time
to walk off the beaten path, but a day each at the Valley of the Kings
and the Great Pyramids and the Sphynx was enough for a lifetime of
memories.
>> Luxor, OTOH -- the cabs were still horse drawn, the people out of the
>> pages of National Geographic. Then flew across the Sinai and spent
>> the
>> second week diving in the Red Sea, which was an experience in itself
>> -- richer even than the Great Barrier Reef, wall to wall fish, a
>> wreck
>> to dive in, a coral drop-off into pelagic waters with white-tipped
>> reef sharks zipping by right in font of your nose.
>
>I was torn between the desert hikes and the Red Sea, but last time I
>did scuba I had an ear infection. Stupidly I still dived and it left me
>deaf in my right ear. I've been warned that diving again might do some
>pretty serious damage to my inner ear; I should really do without
>losing my sense of balance, for example.
Ouch! Definitely not worth it.
>> Other than the
>> brief sojourn at the pyramids, which basically have city on one side
>> and desert on the other, the resort in Sinai (built originally by the
>> Israelis), that was my only desert experience. Don't remember it as
>> having been particularly cold at night, but IIRC it was autumn rather
>> than winter, and I slept in a hotel, so had no exposure to late
>> night/early morning temperature drops. Do have vivid recollections of
>> the stars in the desert, though. Spectacular.
>
>The latter is something I'm really looking forward too.
My main recollection of the Sinai: not so much a desert as we envisage
it but a landscape that somebody forgot to decorate -- dry riverbeds,
a desertified landscape denuded by our ancestors.
Bedouins with tents.
In the middle of hundreds of miles of nothing, running into American
peacekeeping troops carrying boomboxes playing rap, Empire is Us.
A sense one is inhabiting the world of the Old Testament. It's like
going to Italy and seeing the trees you see in the background of
Renaissance paintings: you see these scraggly bushes everywhere and
suddenly you understand why they wrote about burning bushes.
--
Josh
"Let us find health and vigor and hope, and the diseased portion
of the earth will fall behind of its own doing. For that we need
no aggressive strategic plans, no provocation of military hostilities,
no showdowns." - George Kennan
Steve Pritchard
Come on - you can't feed out a line like that not expect me to bite,
surely?
B--
That was a long time ago. Global warming seems to have kicked in, or
global cycling, whatever. We haven't had lower than -30ish for about
10 years. Well, -35 tops.
You just have to dress properly for it. Oh, and best of all, just stay
indoors during the worst of it. The really cold temperature don't last
longer than a few days. Yes, even natives (I was born in this town)
avoid the worst of it.
The best of the cold weather is the scenic value. There's nothing
quite like a sunny, snowy, reallllly cold, clear Alberta day --
sparking frost on all the trees and telephone poles with expanses of
untrodden snow shining like fields of diamonds under a deep Alberta
blue sky.
--
Beth
Sanity is preserved by the outside glimmer of magic - Sister Spike
Sylvia
<...>
> Tight? This bloody trip is costing me an arm and a leg already. And
> they don't have decent hotels out in the desert. man.
Yes, well, if the place was fulla hotels to choose from, then it would
be fulla highways and vegetation that don't belong and several
Starbucks... Starbuckses... Starbucki .. well,why would ya want to go
there, then?
--
Sylvia
"They can all go eat rat heads."
-- Mr. Dangerous Bill Penrose
Sylvia
> "Sylvia" wrote
> > Mr. Ejucaided Redneck wrote:
> >> "Steve Pritchard" wrote:
.
> >> > So, anyone here outdoorsy enough to tell me how one stops one's
> >> > eyeballs freezing if they sleep outside (i.e. under the stars
> >> > with no tent) in this kinda temperature?
.
> >> Down-filled mummy bag.
.
> > And, dogs. Sounds like a three dog night, but bring four (4)
> > good-sized dogs just in case.
.
> I could never eat four.
<staring>
Fine, then. Freeze yer eyeballs.
--
Sylvia
"Truth, fiction, plots, twists, turns, complications,
heroes, antagonists, climaxes -- and sometimes we
even talk about writing...!"
- MR FRM on Life in MW
Sylvia
<...>
> Ah, but this time it's pyramids, temples and oases. Travelling
> lighter and all that.
>
> Gotta get this stuff in there while I'm still capable.
<pea green with envy>
Yer gonna turn all that experience into a game and write off the whole
trip, ain'tcha?
--
Sylvia (It just ain't fair)
"She was not quite what you would call refined.
She was not quite what you would call unrefined.
She was the kind of person that keeps a parrot."
- Mark Twain
Towse
> Ah, but this time it's pyramids, temples and oases. Travelling lighter
> and all that.
>
> Gotta get this stuff in there while I'm still capable.
If you keep moving, you'll be capable for more years than you (at your
tender age) can imagine.
Doesn't hurt to make a list, though, in declining order of what mobility
you'll need.
Barges down the rivers of Europe are way down on the list and just a
shade above cruise ships or (spare me) Club Med.
Check out routes people are planning to catch for the total solar
eclipse next August.
--
Sal
Ye olde swarm of links: thousands of links for writers, researchers and
the terminally curious <http://writers.internet-resources.com>
RJM
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> Mr. Pritchard wrote:
>
> <...>
>> Tight? This bloody trip is costing me an arm and a leg already. And
>> they don't have decent hotels out in the desert. man.
>
> Yes, well, if the place was fulla hotels to choose from, then it would
> be fulla highways and vegetation that don't belong and several
> Starbucks... Starbuckses... Starbucki .. well,why would ya want to go
> there, then?
Tsk. He's Northern.
Bernie
Hey! So am I!
Lancastrian to the backbone!
OK, so we might have had a few local red v white skirmishes over
the years -- "A horse, a horse," etc., not to mention the
cricket -- but we'd very likely band together against any
perceived affronts from the South which in turn might cause me
some grief and pain and you really wouldn't want that on your
conscience would you, RJ? (I mean, you really, really wouldn't
want that, would you?)
Bernie.
>
>
RJM
"Bernie" <rain...@westnet.com.au> wrote in message
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Er, nay lass.
I was in the North recently, which I enjoyed very much
on the sleeper to Edinburgh.
Bernie
Touché, Robert. (But then I, too, had to close my eyes to so much
during the ten years or so that I lived in London ;) Nyah!
Bernie.
Steve Pritchard
> Yer gonna turn all that experience into a game and write off the
> whole
> trip, ain'tcha?
I just spent two week in the jungles of Thailand. Have you any idea how
similar they are to the jungles of Vietnam?
And guess where one of the games we're currently making is set.
:-)
Steve Pritchard
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> Steve Pritchard wrote:
>> Gotta get this stuff in there while I'm still capable.
>
> If you keep moving, you'll be capable for more years than you (at
> your tender age) can imagine.
I've always been a bit, erm, sedentary. My SO is the one trying to get
me doing stuff. She's nearly twelve years my junior so I doubt she's
planning on letting me put my feet up too early in life.
> Doesn't hurt to make a list, though, in declining order of what
> mobility you'll need.
Absolutely. Machu Picchu has to come in pretty soon.
> Barges down the rivers of Europe are way down on the list and just a
> shade above cruise ships or (spare me) Club Med.
I cannot imagine how dull and frustrating a cruise around the Med would
be - some cities these things stop at allow you a couple of hours at
best to explore. Venice, for example, sees thousands of cruise ships a
year, and the average visitor to the city stays there only four hours.
Four Hours! Absolute madness.
> Check out routes people are planning to catch for the total solar
> eclipse next August.
I may well be holidaying on my own next year, so that's not a bad plan,
Sal.
Towse
> I cannot imagine how dull and frustrating a cruise around the Med would
> be - some cities these things stop at allow you a couple of hours at
> best to explore. Venice, for example, sees thousands of cruise ships a
> year, and the average visitor to the city stays there only four hours.
> Four Hours! Absolute madness.
Venice is a place I could return to again and again and again, despite
all the places we've never been and hope to see some day.
I dreamed of Venice last year after we got back from a five day stay
followed by a walk in the Veneto. The dream was a nightmare really. I
was standing across a canal looking at a place we'd just bought and
realized the waters were rising and all my books were on the ground
floor with no time to move them before ...
The Guy's GGAunt fell in love with the place in 1891:
<http://www.towse.com/blogger/uploaded_images/MBBVenice1891-716869.jpg>
We can see the cruise ships dock here in San Francisco. They come in and
leave the same day. One day in San Francisco. Perhaps the only time in
your entire life you'll be in San Francisco. One day. Not even
twenty-four hours. What if the sun isn't shining? What if the cable cars
are out of commission? What if? What if? What if? One day in Derry,
sure. One day in San Francisco?
Sylvia
.
> "Sylvia" wrote:
.
> > Yer gonna turn all that experience into a game and write off the
> > whole trip, ain'tcha?
> I just spent two week in the jungles of Thailand. Have you any idea how
> similar they are to the jungles of Vietnam?
>
> And guess where one of the games we're currently making is set.
>
> :-)
<even *more* pea green with envy>
I *KNEW it! It just ain't fair!
So, didja think of writin' off yer trip before I mentioned the idea? If
not, I want a percentage.
Thenk yew.
--
Sylvia
"Well, don't complain to me. Complain to Oliver Cromwell."
-- Mr. Hope
Sylvia
> "Sylvia" wrote :
> > Mr. Pritchard wrote:
.
> > <...>
> >> Tight? This bloody trip is costing me an arm and a leg already. And
> >> they don't have decent hotels out in the desert. man.
> >
> > Yes, well, if the place was fulla hotels to choose from, then it would
> > be fulla highways and vegetation that don't belong and several
> > Starbucks... Starbuckses... Starbucki .. well,why would ya want to go
> > there, then?
.
> Tsk. He's Northern.
<staring>
What all I saw was pleasant and interestin', so it can't all be bad.
Corby Glen (and environs) was lovely. I'm sayin' that on my own
volition, with no threats from MW's HRH Gail Seery. Really.
And, I'm crazy about York. I could spend a couple of weeks in that area
alone explorin' its history.
Mr. Pritchard's from Derbyshire and he PROMISED me a tour of Peak
District National Park. Unless there is a GREAT CONSPIRACY, from what I
can tell, it's a dazzlingly beeeyootiful area.
It is, right? I don't want to go all the way there just to have Mr.
Pritchard say, "Neener!" He already laughed at me enough 'cause of...
well, next time I'm gonna rent a cell phone.
Not that I didn't like London, I did. I plan to bury myself in the
British Museum and in the Victoria & Albert for as long as possible
again,but I'll come up air once in awhile and <scamper> about.
Providing I can sneak back into England, of course...
--
Sylvia <--- Supreme Ruler of MW & a Petite Peep
"All power corrupts. Absolute power is kinda neat though."
Steve Pritchard
> Mr. Pritchard's from Derbyshire and he PROMISED me a tour of Peak
> District National Park. Unless there is a GREAT CONSPIRACY, from what
> I
> can tell, it's a dazzlingly beeeyootiful area.
>
> It is, right? I don't want to go all the way there just to have Mr.
> Pritchard say, "Neener!" He already laughed at me enough 'cause of...
> well, next time I'm gonna rent a cell phone.
Well, I'm in Derby right now.
Tomorrow I'm talking with some nice gentlemen from Sony about maybe
working down at their Studios in London, so a move might be on the
cards if the position is right.