"The Peace"--a new novel (Christian Sci-Fi, with an Irish flavour)
In a sufficiently hi-tech society numerous individuals are capable
of mass destruction via nuclear or biological weapons. To survive,
civilization requires a pervasive moral code limiting the use of
technology, but in a fallen world this needs policing, and so do the
police.
James IV, most Christian High King of an Ireland with a different
history than ours is deposed in 1941 by a cabal of his nobles. Exiled
to thinly-populated Irish North America, he and his cousins find
unlikely romance, promote traditional honour, and counter genocidal
high-tech schemes. Sergeant Brian McIlhargey carries on the fight in a
later generation.
Can one family stand against the corrupt rulers of two worlds? What
if one of its own members goes bad?
See an excerpt or buy the book at Arjay Enterprises:
<http://www.arjay.bc.ca> or at Bookmice.com: <http://www.bookmice.com>
(ISBN 1-930364-87-3)
--
Rick Sutcliffe Professor Math/Cmpt Trinity Western University
<<Not an official spokesperson>> Books at: <http://www.arjay.bc.ca>
Now that's something new! I've never heard of Christian Sci-Fi before.
Faith
<snipped rest>
There's a bunch of it. Michael Moorcock's novels, *Behold the Man* and
*The War Hound and The World's Pain* are good examples. And the Arthur C.
Clarke short story "The Star" (which is one of my favorite stories).
Hound
Aren't they calling "The Omega Code" Christian Science Fiction?
Tom (who hates the term 'Sci-fi' being replaced for SF)
Good grief am I out of touch w/ the science fiction market! I've never head
of any of those authors or their books! (hanging head in shame) I've been
reading fantasy, magic realism, ghost stories, & some mainstream fiction for
the past couple years.
I'll have to check some of those Christian SF novels out to see what they're
all about.
Faith
>
> Good grief am I out of touch w/ the science fiction market! I've never head
> of any of those authors or their books! (hanging head in shame) I've been
> reading fantasy, magic realism, ghost stories, & some mainstream fiction for
> the past couple years.
>
> I'll have to check some of those Christian SF novels out to see what they're
> all about.
>
There's a lot of other stuff too. I link to some of it on my site, but
have a ways to go. Jerry Jenkins and Tim LaHaye have a "left behind"
series about the end times that is "speculative fiction" (and may be
the biggest money maker in modern fiction), but mine isn't Chiliast.
Neither is it S&S.
BTW, C.S. Lewis is another important Christian Science Fiction name, as
Tolkein, for that matter.
Rick
>Rick Sutcliffe, long-time lurker here, and programming text author
>announces a new web site to house the Modula-2 FAQ and shareware text,
>and to launch
>
>"The Peace"--a new novel (Christian Sci-Fi, with an Irish flavour)
Sounds exciting, Rick, but please keep you ads out of our newsgroup.
John (Launching a new campaign against spammers and advertisers)
Martalo
I wondered if C.S. Lewis was considered Christian SF.
Faith
>
>"Hound of Cullen" <pzisel...@iname.com> wrote in message
>> In article <394fb...@athena.netset.com>, mc...@belmontcty.net says...
>> : Now that's something new! I've never heard of Christian Sci-Fi before.
>> There's a bunch of it. Michael Moorcock's novels, *Behold the Man* and
>> *The War Hound and The World's Pain* are good examples. And the Arthur C.
>> Clarke short story "The Star" (which is one of my favorite stories).
>Good grief am I out of touch w/ the science fiction market!
Not necessarily. The Moorcock books hail back to the 70s and early 80s, IIRC
<and I heartily recommend both; they're superb, though "Christian SF" isn't
what I would label them. Moorcock was part of the "New Wave" of SF writers
who applied trendy literary techniques to sf writing before he branched off
into sword-and-sorcery land, and he can be an excellent writer>, and "The
Star" goes back to ... Lord, what, the 50s?
>I've never head of any of those authors or their books!
Eek! Never heard of Clarke or Moorcock?!
>(hanging head in shame)
I should certainly hope so.
>I've been
>reading fantasy, magic realism, ghost stories, & some mainstream fiction for
>the past couple years.
You should explore some of the older stuff, too. Read Delany from the 60s
and 70s, read all of Zelazny <his solo stuff aimed at the adult market,
anyway>, read some Brian Aldiss and Harlan Ellison and Gene Wolfe <had to
throw him in, because he's far and away my favorite SF author> and Ursula
LeGuin and ... well, the list goes on and on. Find Asimov's "The Hugo
Winners" and take note of the names you see. There's some really, really
good stuff available.
>I'll have to check some of those Christian SF novels out to see what they're
>all about.
Well, not sure how Christian stuff you'll find there. You can find Christian
SF in the "Christian" section of the bookstore.
--
Paul Harwood
Oh, I love Roger Zelazny!! My favs were his The Chronicles of amber! I have
those in hard back!
I adore Alan Dean Foster, too. For the Love of Mother Not was a great tale!
Faith
<snipped rest>
> Paul Harwood
> "Rick Sutcliffe" <rs...@twu.ca> wrote in message
> news:200620001056427822%rs...@twu.ca...
> > Rick Sutcliffe, long-time lurker here, and programming text author
> > announces a new web site to house the Modula-2 FAQ and shareware text,
> > and to launch
> >
> > "The Peace"--a new novel (Christian Sci-Fi, with an Irish flavour)
> >
>
> Now that's something new! I've never heard of Christian Sci-Fi before.
I've happened across a couple of titles of Young Adult Christian
Sci-Fi in the past.
--
Will Salt
>Now that's something new! I've never heard of Christian Sci-Fi before.
There are some uncharitable folks who might be tempted to suggest that
Xianity itself is sci-fi.
Bill (not me, mind you, just some people)
<who knows? said:>
>>I'll have to check some of those Christian SF novels out to
>>see what they're all about.
>
>Well, not sure how Christian stuff you'll find there. You can
>find Christian SF in the "Christian" section of the
>bookstore.
>
<ahem>
cs lewis? hello? or is Perelandra, Out of the Silent
Planet and That Hideous Strength not considered SF?
--
n, at the grand canyoun <-- alma influenced spelling
In England, the Speaker of the House is not allowed to speak.
>IIRC, Barnes and Noble shelves all of CS Lewis's stuff in the
>"Christian" section. Not that that's a rule that anyone else
>necessarily follows, but I got to know their shelving
>reasonably well while I worked for them.
>
alma: well then they're DUMB!
nancy: yes. when i would go to B&N, i would often find
paul taking a nice little snooze on the shelving.
--
n & A at the grand canyon
>
>"Hound of Cullen" <pzisel...@iname.com> wrote in message
>news:MPG.13b98866f...@news.supernews.net...
>> In article <394fb...@athena.netset.com>, mc...@belmontcty.net says...
>> :
>> : "Rick Sutcliffe" <rs...@twu.ca> wrote in message
>> : news:200620001056427822%rs...@twu.ca...
>> : > Rick Sutcliffe, long-time lurker here, and programming text author
>> : > announces a new web site to house the Modula-2 FAQ and shareware text,
>> : > and to launch
>> : >
>> : > "The Peace"--a new novel (Christian Sci-Fi, with an Irish flavour)
>> : >
>> :
>> : Now that's something new! I've never heard of Christian Sci-Fi before.
>> :
>> : Faith
>>
>> There's a bunch of it. Michael Moorcock's novels, *Behold the Man* and
>> *The War Hound and The World's Pain* are good examples. And the Arthur C.
>> Clarke short story "The Star" (which is one of my favorite stories).
>>
>> Hound
>
>Good grief am I out of touch w/ the science fiction market! I've never head
>of any of those authors or their books! (hanging head in shame) I've been
>reading fantasy, magic realism, ghost stories, & some mainstream fiction for
>the past couple years.
>
>I'll have to check some of those Christian SF novels out to see what they're
>all about.
>
>Faith
>
Just off the top of my head and off the middle of my bookshelves:
Sharon Shinn, ARCHANGEL and JOVAH'S ANGEL
Mary Doria Russell, THE SPARROW and CHILDREN OF GOD
C.S. Lewis has already been mentioned, and any number of sf novels can
be seen to have a Christ-ian, if not Christian, bent: STRANGER IN A
STRANGE LAND, and, oh, too many others to list.
Also, a lot of books deal with Christianity, its mythology (by which I
mean no insult to Christians, I'm simply talking of things like the
hierarchy of angels and demons and other things that were added and
codified long, long after the New Testament was written), and its
trappings in fun ways--Norman Spinrad's DEUS X, Neil Gaiman and Terry
Pratchett's GOOD OMENS, Jeremy Leven's SATAN: His Psychotherapy and
Cure by the Unfortunate Dr. Kassler, J.S.P.S.*, and lots of others.
And so many sf books, classic and modern, have as their basis Biblical
themes (the Eden motif being most prevalent) that to even begin to
llist them would be a lifelong endeavor.
In addition, Christian mysteries seem to be making great inroads as
their own separate genre; I have a few.
You may want to ask the question on rec.arts.sf.composition--then
stand back as you're deluged with examples.
Alex Jay Berman
*"J.S.P.S." stands for "Just Some Poor Schmuck"
"I like criticism, but it must be my way."--Mark Twain
[snip]
I was thinking of SF books that deal specifically with christianity,
independent of the author's beliefs. I didn't know there was a
"Christian SF" subgenre.
There are a lot of SF stories that deal with christian themes. I'd
forgotten CS Lewis (bad me). But remembered the short story "Riverworld"
by Philip Jose Farmer. Ray Bradbury is quite devout, but he rarely writes
about his faith.
Hound
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Before you buy.
sonya
>In article <LttPOWZ4iL7TTsmdMYysn=v0q...@4ax.com>, pa...@computerbits.com
>says...
>: Not necessarily. The Moorcock books hail back to the 70s and early 80s, IIRC
>: <and I heartily recommend both; they're superb, though "Christian SF" isn't
>: what I would label them. Moorcock was part of the "New Wave" of SF writers
>: who applied trendy literary techniques to sf writing before he branched off
>: into sword-and-sorcery land, and he can be an excellent writer>, and "The
>: Star" goes back to ... Lord, what, the 50s?
>
>[snip]
>
>I was thinking of SF books that deal specifically with christianity,
>independent of the author's beliefs. I didn't know there was a
>"Christian SF" subgenre.
Yeah. Have a look next time you're in a largish bookstore. Don't expect to
plunk down any money ...
>There are a lot of SF stories that deal with christian themes. I'd
>forgotten CS Lewis (bad me). But remembered the short story "Riverworld"
>by Philip Jose Farmer. Ray Bradbury is quite devout, but he rarely writes
>about his faith.
Oh! And "A Canticle for Leibowitz"! How could I have forgotten that one?!
--
Paul Harwood
Not to mention C.S. Lewis's "Parallendra" trilogy.
And in the fantasy side of SF there's even more, again
notably C. S. Lewis's "Narnia" books.
Carol
>
> You may want to ask the question on rec.arts.sf.composition--then
> stand back as you're deluged with examples.
>
Well, possibly if your angle is the market. If you want
to know about the written fiction, ask on rec.ars.sf.written,
the sister group for that purpose.
You'll get even *more* answers there.
Carol
Hee-hee, don't you hate when that happens!
Tom
LOL--I did a double-take too Faith
thought 'is it just me'? is this a genre???
carlie bear
(download the launch issue of WAPweek in pdf)
"Faith L. McCammon" wrote:
> > There's a bunch of it. Michael Moorcock's novels, *Behold the Man* and
> > *The War Hound and The World's Pain* are good examples. And the Arthur C.
> > Clarke short story "The Star" (which is one of my favorite stories).
> >
> > Hound
>
> Good grief am I out of touch w/ the science fiction market! I've never head
> of any of those authors or their books! (hanging head in shame) I've been
> reading fantasy, magic realism, ghost stories, & some mainstream fiction for
> the past couple years.
Faith,
The recently knighted Sir Arthur C. Clarke is arguably the most famous --
and most important -- living science fiction writer. He is widely credited
with creating the concept of artificial communication satellites and was
perhaps the earliest advocate of "sea farming". The seminal
science fiction movie 2001 was based on his work.
Steve,
(putting away the old Curator of SF hat)
--
Steve Miller -- co-author of the Liaden Universe
Buy Partners in Necessity at fine sf shops
http://www.korval.com/liad.htm
Rick Sutcliffe wrote:
> Rick Sutcliffe, long-time lurker here, and programming text author
> announces a new web site to house the Modula-2 FAQ and shareware text,
> and to launch
>
> "The Peace"--a new novel (Christian Sci-Fi, with an Irish flavour)
Well, good, that means the science fiction readers can leave it on the
shelf.
Steve
re: christian SF:
>Not to mention C.S. Lewis's "Parallendra" trilogy.
oh yes! i remember that one! in which an otherwise
ordinary englishman engages in a series of adventures
with geometric shapes.
say!
didn't he also write a trilogy in which one of the
books was called "Perelandra"?
the parallels here are *amazing*, aren't they?
--
n
A round man cannot be expected to fit in a square hole right
away. He must have time to modify his shape. -- Mark Twain
Hound of Cullen wrote:[snip]
>
> I was thinking of SF books that deal specifically with christianity,
> independent of the author's beliefs. I didn't know there was a
> "Christian SF" subgenre.
There isn't, really, no more than there's a "Pagan SF" subgenre or
a "Jewish SF" subgenre. Most efforts to splinter SF by religion
fail rather quickly. There are many writers who deal with these
issues
If you want books or stories dealing with many of the questions of
religion -- without proselytizing -- there's:
*A Canticle for Leibowitz -- Walter M. Miller, Jr.
*The Quest for St. Aquin (perhap a novella) (Anthony Boucher)
*Towing Jehovah (James Morrow) may qualify
*The Star (A.C. Clarke)
*Childhood's End (A.C.Clarke)
*The Nine Billion Names of God (A.C.Clarke)
*2001 (A.C.Clarke) (and all the follow ons)
*Against the Fall of Night (A.C.Clarke) One of his early novels, sort of YA, from
the 30's,
-- dealing with the nature of humanity and of Diety
*The City and The Stars (A.C.Clarke) a sort of more adult re-run of Against the
Fall of Night
*A Case of Conscience (James Blish)
*Black Easter (James Blish) I think this was part of a trilogy but I'm years from
it.
*A Death in The House (Clifford Simak) -- if you read it carefully
*Jack of Shadows (Roger Zelazny) deals explicitly with good and evil, the question
of human souls, and the so-called "Prometheus myth"
*Job (Robert Heinlein)
*The Rose (Charles Harness)
And again, there's many more good reads. I think the Lahaye stuff
is more like "Tom Clancy with a cross" than real sf.
which was the one about missionary / space explorers
discovering the remains of a civilization which God had supenovaed into
extinction to provide the Star of Bethlehem to guide the Wise men 2000
circa years ago?
That moved me at the time 1950ies?
Hugh W
Cool! I'd like to know the title, too. That sounds like an interesting read!
Faith
Don't know, but I hope someone does -- I haven't read this,
and I'd like to.
But your description jogged my memory: _The Sparrow_
by Mary Doria Russell. All about a Catholic priest's
crisis of faith, the nature of evil, the Grace of God,
and the nature of salvation, all without proselytizing
and to the plot of a gripping SF story.
I've not yet read the sequel, _Children of God_, but I
suspect it would also qualify.
Carol
Ok, that does it. I'll post the question in rasfw and
report back.
Carol
Hound
Hound
Thanks Hound! I'm gonna see if my library has it. (More than likely not
since I have to have nearly every book I wanna read ordered in from another
library... usually another county) It sounds like a splendid story!
Faith
And the answer is:
>Arthur C. Clarke, "The Star", widely anthologized, won the Hugo for
>best short story in 1956, and most recently (thanks to ISFdb for all
>this info) in Hartwell's _Ascent of Wonder_ collection, but earlier in
> Clarke's collection _The Nine Billion Names of God_ as well.
Cheers,
Carol
> On Thu, 22 Jun 2000 11:35:50 +0200, Hugh Watkins said in misc.writing:
>
> >s...@korval.com,Ny-Internet writes:
> >>
> >>If you want books or stories dealing with many of the questions of
> >>religion -- without proselytizing -- there's:
> >
> > which was the one about missionary / space explorers
> >discovering the remains of a civilization which God had supenovaed into
> >extinction to provide the Star of Bethlehem to guide the Wise men 2000
> >circa years ago?
>
> That would be "The Star" by Arthur C. Clarke, already mentioned several
> times in this discussion.
>
> >That moved me at the time 1950ies?
>
> You can find it in several collections; try "The Nine Billion Names of
> God" <which is another great short story with a "Christian" theme by
> Clarke>
Ahem. "The Nine Billion Names of God".
Religious, clearly. Eschatological, apocalyptic, and arguably in a
sense cabalistic. In what way Christian?
--
Will Salt