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Dryad

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Apr 21, 2006, 7:17:57 PM4/21/06
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...ever write about 'writing stuff' anymore?

I mean, this stuff that's filling my screen with irrelevant crap is, well,
irrelevant crap. Someone please tell me the secret password to find my way
back to the real misc.writing.


Towse

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Apr 21, 2006, 8:53:55 PM4/21/06
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Dryad wrote:

I recognize that last name. Welcome back, L. Long time.

Make of misc.writing what you'd like it to be.

Depend not on posters to do what you'd like them to do, to behave as
you'd like them to behave, to have brains if they have none, to be kind
when they're feeling grumpy.

There are certain things two-year-olds are incapable of and it will just
grit your teeth and churn your stomach to try to get them, f'rex, to share.

misc.writing's a bit like that, you know?

Maybe Chris.tine will come back and play, or some logical (oof-aaah!)
equivalent, but as they say on the playground. "You first."

Where you been? Whatcha doin' where you are? Been writing? What's your
favorite place to hang with writerly types on the Web? What do you think
of David Sedaris? Ever read Miss Snark? Some folk here sing the praises
of Jane Austen. What do you think?

--
Sal

Ye olde swarm of links: thousands of links for writers, researchers and
the terminally curious <http://www.internet-resources.com/writers>

Scarberry

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Apr 21, 2006, 11:36:18 PM4/21/06
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"Towse" <se...@towse.com> wrote in message
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Been in Boston. It was not a good time in my life. I spent all but 3 months,
cumulative, in various psychiatric hospitals. That's 3 months out of 3.5
years in Boston. Never knew one city and surrounding areas could have so
many psychiatrists and psych hospitals. They finally called it 'psychotic
depression,' which does not exist in the DSM-IV as a diagnosis, but the
medication I'm on now keeps both the voices in my head and the associated
depression well under control, so I can't complain too much.

Really, the only thing worth mentioning about Boston was the giant sloth
skeleton they had at this museum at Harvard, which my husband and I visited
during a couple of my 'not-in-the-hospital' periods. Durn thing was 12 feet
tall, or something like that. I wish I'd gotten a picture.

I did keep writing, though. Couldn't have a computer in the hospitals--too
many ways to utilize one to inflict 'acts of self-harm'--so I wrote
longhand. I've got most of a first-draft manuscript done now--another 2 or 3
days of work. Wrote about 50,000 words in the hospitals. And I wrote a lot
of short stories, too.

I'm back in my home state of Washington, now, with my husband. I have a life
again, and it feels great. Haven't been in a hospital in almost a year now.
We're planning to celebrate the anniversary with expensive cigars and fine
wine (May 2). The occasion is nearly as big of a deal as our wedding
anniversary, at least for this year.

Jane Austen is great, IMO. Don't have an opinion about David Sedaris, or
Miss Snark; I haven't seen or heard enough of either.

Your turn.

Lara


Sylvia

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Apr 21, 2006, 11:45:02 PM4/21/06
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In article <FKd2g.762$ww6.181@trnddc05>,
"Dryad" <ljsca...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> ...ever write about 'writing stuff' anymore?

Mostly we get a lot of people complainin' that no one is writing about
writing, but them peeps what's complainin' ain't writin' about writin'
either.

> I mean, this stuff that's filling my screen

Lookit, misuse of the passive. Shirley "this stuff" does not have
control of what fills yer screen, *you* do.

> with irrelevant crap is, well,

...what ya chose to fill yer screen with.

> irrelevant crap.

Well, yer still here... perhaps you've got one of them lasagna gardens
goin' and ya need compost, yes?

> Someone please tell me the secret password to find my way
> back to the real misc.writing.

'K. From the Real MW posting guidelines:

*****************
http://www.mw-land.com/postguid.shtml

<...>
"[...] people who come here expecting to see *only* discussion about
writing-related matters are sometimes disappointed.

" Misc.writing is first and foremost a newsgroup *for* writers, rather
than one only *about* writing. And 'writers' means anyone with a serious
(or even not so serious!) interest in writing. Although there are many
professional writers among MW's contributors, participation is by no
means limited to professionals. Everyone is welcome.

"The group is a forum for writers to discuss matters of interest to
them, and it has been described as having a 'cocktail party atmosphere'.
So you may find people discussing politics, computers, the antics of
their pets, or just indulging in pleasant exchanges with their on-line
friends, in addition to the many and varied writing topics. To those who
consider such subjects to be off-topic, which should not be discussed in
a writing newsgroup, it should be pointed out that everything posted
here is seen through the eyes of a writer, from a writer's point of
view, and that it arises from an on-line community of writers."
<...>
*******************

That's the "Real Misc.Writing". That's here. I'd add, "feel free to
actually start a thread about writing instead of just complaining," but
considering how you judge the rest of us, I guess you'd feel you'd be
wasting your words on us "irrlevant crap" writers. I'm thinkin' you want
sumpthin' different, and yer in such luck!

See, once there were some in MW that bemoaned the idea that no one here
(themselves excluded) was a "Real Writer". And after a long time of
complainin' and name callin', The Stepford Writers built their idea of
Heaven: mwm.

"Misc.writing.moderated exists to provide a writing forum
that is not particular to any specific genre, but which provides
focussed discussion on the art, craft, business and creative
process of writing in a positive atmosphere."
http://www.internet-resources.com/writers/mwm/mwm-moderation-FAQ.htm

There ya go! Scamper off and find out what happens when "Real Writers"
get to decide what isn't good enough to fill the screen of Real Writers.
Have fun! Far, far away from the posters in MW whose writing you view as
"irrelevant crap". http://tinyurl.com/zh3xs


<waving!>


--
Sylvia <---- Supreme Ruler of MW

"Either I'm holding the fucking thing upside down, or
God's Plan for Us All is a Mass Ion Furrier Thingy..."

-- Mr. Hope

Scarberry

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Apr 21, 2006, 11:50:38 PM4/21/06
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I'm complaining about the lack of the MW that was, several years ago.

I just haven't been here in something like 4 years. Things is diff'runt now.

Lara

"Sylvia" <Syl...@cliffhangerREMOVE.com> wrote in message
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gekko

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Apr 22, 2006, 12:03:54 AM4/22/06
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Mairzydoats and dozydoats, but little "Scarberry"
<ljscarber...@yahoo.com> posts to misc.writing, saying ...


> Things is diff'runt now.

Diffrunt names of diffrunt peeps crapping in diffrunt shaped piles, is
all.

--
gekko

TEAMWORK... means never having to take all the blame yourself.

Dr Zen

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Apr 22, 2006, 12:03:55 AM4/22/06
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GIGO, innit. "Dryad" <ljsca...@yahoo.com> fed this in:

Shaddap cunt.
--

Dr Zen

Allowing us to replace
the tyrant every four years
is not something I want to go
to the last ditch for,
nor something I want to see
young men and women die
in a faraway place to bring to others.
http://gollyg.blogspot.com

Dr Zen

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Apr 22, 2006, 12:06:15 AM4/22/06
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GIGO, innit. "Scarberry" <ljscarber...@yahoo.com> fed this in:

>I'm complaining about the lack of the MW that was, several years ago.
>
>I just haven't been here in something like 4 years. Things is diff'runt now.
>

Yeah, now we count in decimal.

Sylvia

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Apr 22, 2006, 12:58:27 AM4/22/06
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"Scarberry" <ljscarber...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I'm complaining about the lack of the MW that was, several years ago.

Tomorrow at 10:37 AM CST I plan to complain about the lack of the 25
cent slice of Truly Excellent New York Pizza that once was. All
interested peeps meet in the MW Rec Hall library.

> I just haven't been here in something like 4 years.

Unless ya posted under a different name, it's been seven years.

> Things is diff'runt now.

Well, yeah. That's how it works. I asked someone about this years ago
and he said, "Just wait. It'll change again. Trust me on this one."

By golly if he wasn't right. Just don't tell him I said that, 'K?

So, what, exactly, is it about writing that ya wanted to discuss? That
still works the same way--you start the thread.

BTW, my BIRTHDAY is April 23rd, don't forget to bring me a really
EXCELLENT BIRTHDAY PRESENT.

--
Sylvia <--- Supreme Ruler of MW

"It's fun when we all dress up like villagers and we get these
torches and we march on Dr. Frankenstein's castle, isn't it?
I think we all enjoy that, and we need to do it more often."

-- Miz deMedicis

Sylvia

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Apr 22, 2006, 1:08:28 AM4/22/06
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Miz "Scarberry" wrote:

<...>


> Really, the only thing worth mentioning about Boston was the giant sloth
> skeleton they had at this museum at Harvard

<...>
> Durn thing was 12 feet tall, or something like that. I wish I'd gotten picture.


<adding final touches to Welcome Back Basket for Miz Scarberry>

Lessee... one more thing... AH!


<tucking in framed http://tinyurl.com/zx6dt >


<standing back and admiring basket>

<blink!>

NOOOO! Harvey! Silly bird! That ain't yer ribbon! Here, you can have
this red one. Go play on yer bungee, now, good bird!

<re-adusting Basket ribbon>

Poifect, as always! And it ain't even a Tuesday!

<grabbing Basket and hopping into Welcome Wagon>

<driving off>

Towse

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Apr 22, 2006, 2:19:26 AM4/22/06
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Scarberry wrote:

This is good. Yucky times though, eh? Sorry for that.

> Really, the only thing worth mentioning about Boston was the giant sloth
> skeleton they had at this museum at Harvard, which my husband and I visited
> during a couple of my 'not-in-the-hospital' periods. Durn thing was 12 feet
> tall, or something like that. I wish I'd gotten a picture.

I've seen sloths down in the Amazon basin.

The thought of one 12' tall is nightmare making. They really are
sloth-like, slow-mo, one-foot ... the-next-foot ...

> I did keep writing, though. Couldn't have a computer in the hospitals--too
> many ways to utilize one to inflict 'acts of self-harm'--so I wrote
> longhand. I've got most of a first-draft manuscript done now--another 2 or 3
> days of work. Wrote about 50,000 words in the hospitals. And I wrote a lot
> of short stories, too.

This is good. Did it help you hang in there?

> I'm back in my home state of Washington, now, with my husband. I have a life
> again, and it feels great. Haven't been in a hospital in almost a year now.
> We're planning to celebrate the anniversary with expensive cigars and fine
> wine (May 2). The occasion is nearly as big of a deal as our wedding
> anniversary, at least for this year.

I remember you leaving WA for TX. ...and then on to MA, it sounds like.
Are you happy-ish to be back in WA?

> Jane Austen is great, IMO.

> Don't have an opinion about David Sedaris,

See what you think: <http://www.npr.org/programs/specials/lists/sedaris/>

> or Miss Snark; I haven't seen or heard enough of either.

Miss Snark: <http://misssnark.blogspot.com/>

See what you think. I find her very entertaining.

> Your turn.

Your turn, Lara. Welcome back.

Has Washington been drizz? We've been having drizz in San Francisco,
which we promptly blamed on Seattle and environs pushing the clouds and
drizz our way.

Nice to see you 'round abouts.

Alan Hope

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Apr 22, 2006, 5:14:54 AM4/22/06
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Scarberry goes:

>I'm complaining about the lack of the MW that was, several years ago.

Yes. Another one.

>I just haven't been here in something like 4 years. Things is diff'runt now.

No shit.


--
AH


RJM

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Apr 22, 2006, 6:42:46 AM4/22/06
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"Dryad" <ljsca...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"Goodbye"


Frank Raymond Michaels

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Apr 22, 2006, 7:53:04 AM4/22/06
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"Dryad" <ljsca...@yahoo.com> wrote in
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> ...ever write about 'writing stuff' anymore?

Yeah.

> I mean, this stuff that's filling my screen with irrelevant crap is,
> well, irrelevant crap. Someone please tell me the secret password to
> find my way back to the real misc.writing.

"The real misc.writing" is a kingdom of the mind. No secret password,
but I've found the judicious application of killfilters (something I'd
never done in the past) helpful during the current MW administration,
especially against the swarm of cross-posting spambotty-folk that seem
to have accumulated round here, and filtering by subject is also pretty
easy. Cherry-pick from what's left, or start your own threads.

Some of the old guard are still here, some (like you) have come back
after prolonged absences (John Scalzi poked his head in here recently as
well, as has John Ashby; whether they stay or not is up to them), some
(like me) have skip-dash participation depending upon available time and
interest.

Sorry to hear you've been going through a rough stripe, but welcome
back.

There are some absent posters whose participation I truly miss, and wish
they'd at least pop in: Gail (any word about her? her health was rather
fragile last time I'd seen her post), Harper, Hound, Keltic, Terje,
Clough, Doug, Harris, AJB, the two Erics (Garcia and Bycer), a whole
bunch of Carols, a small fleet of Pauls, Lutz (I know where to find him,
though), Faith, Davida (you made a list!), Kurt, Penrose, Funke, Arleen,
Deck and Alma, Bil, and others whose names are not listed and will pop
in to berate me for not listing them.

But fundamentally this place has not changed in that it is what you make
of it. So what would you like to talk about? --
FRM (I recently invented the Goldfish Barometer...)

PJ

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Apr 22, 2006, 8:21:50 AM4/22/06
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"Frank Raymond Michaels" <frmichaelsMUNG'D...@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:Xns97AD5037B6120fr...@69.28.186.158...

> "Dryad" <ljsca...@yahoo.com> wrote in
> news:FKd2g.762$ww6.181@trnddc05:
>
>> ...ever write about 'writing stuff' anymore?
>
> Yeah.
>
>> I mean, this stuff that's filling my screen with irrelevant crap is,
>> well, irrelevant crap. Someone please tell me the secret password to find
>> my way back to the real misc.writing.
>
> "The real misc.writing" is a kingdom of the mind. No secret password, but
> I've found the judicious application of killfilters (something I'd never
> done in the past) helpful during the current MW administration, especially
> against the swarm of cross-posting spambotty-folk that seem to have
> accumulated round here, and filtering by subject is also pretty easy.
> Cherry-pick from what's left, or start your own threads.

Filtering out the swamp scum can indeed be a daunting challenge, but it's
worth the effort, I think. There are some cool people here. No, I won't list
them.

> Sorry to hear you've been going through a rough stripe, but welcome back.

I second that. Welcome back, Lara, I hope things are better for you now.

> There are some absent posters whose participation I truly miss, and wish
> they'd at least pop in: Gail (any word about her? her health was rather
> fragile last time I'd seen her post), Harper, Hound, Keltic, Terje,
> Clough, Doug, Harris, AJB, the two Erics (Garcia and Bycer), a whole bunch
> of Carols, a small fleet of Pauls, Lutz (I know where to find him,
> though), Faith, Davida (you made a list!), Kurt, Penrose, Funke, Arleen,
> Deck and Alma, Bil, and others whose names are not listed and will pop in
> to berate me for not listing them.

Sheesh, you sure have a way of conjuring up memories of the old days! I miss
many of those people too. And like you, some of them pop in whenever time
permits, but others have most certainly left for good. Lack of time, lack of
interest, lack of tolerance for how mw has evolved, lack of whatever.


>
> But fundamentally this place has not changed in that it is what you make
> of it.

Yes. This is true. If more writers truly (keyword *truly*) wanted to see the
froup change, they would flock here in droves, start threads of interest to
other writers, and eventually become louder than the crapola. Complaining
about not liking the way things are has never worked and never will.

> So what would you like to talk about?

Writing. Or rather, the hazards of being a writer. I want to know if other
writers get sick of the following conversation:

"What do you do for a living?"

"I'm a writer."

"YOU ARE? REALLY? OH MY GOD, I CAN'T BELIEVE IT, WHAT AN INCREDIBLE
COINCIDENCE, I'M A WRITER TOO, I JUST WON A PRIZE FROM OUR CHURCH FOR
ARTICLES I WROTE FOR THE MONTHLY BULLETIN, LET'S GET TOGETHER AND TALK ABOUT
WRITING SOMETIME, I HAVE SO MANY FASCINATING THINGS YOU NEED TO KNOW!!!!"

Ever happen to you?

~ ~

PJ

http://pjs-place.blogspot.com


Frank Raymond Michaels

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Apr 22, 2006, 9:01:49 AM4/22/06
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"PJ" <autho...@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:wJ6dnb749rW...@comcast.com:

> "Frank Raymond Michaels" <frmichaelsMUNG'D...@optonline.net> wrote:
>
>> So what would you like to talk about?
>
> Writing. Or rather, the hazards of being a writer. I want to know if
> other writers get sick of the following conversation:
>
> "What do you do for a living?"
>
> "I'm a writer."
>
> "YOU ARE? REALLY? OH MY GOD, I CAN'T BELIEVE IT, WHAT AN INCREDIBLE
> COINCIDENCE, I'M A WRITER TOO, I JUST WON A PRIZE FROM OUR CHURCH FOR
> ARTICLES I WROTE FOR THE MONTHLY BULLETIN, LET'S GET TOGETHER AND TALK
> ABOUT WRITING SOMETIME, I HAVE SO MANY FASCINATING THINGS YOU NEED TO
> KNOW!!!!"
>
> Ever happen to you?

No, but I do not make my living at writing (unless you count technical
documentation I create as part of my IT job). Folk ask me what I do, I
tell them computers and either a) their eyes glaze over and I safely
escape, or b) I end up fixing their printer (it's always their printer).

Yes I write, yes I've been published, and yes I've some writing projects
in the pipe that may (or may not) result in fame, fortune, and women
hurling themselves at my feet, but writing is still more of an avocation
to me, so I typically don't identify myself to people as a writer, and I
am selective as to whom I talk about writing. Especially in long run-on
sentences.

The hazards of writing, to me, are working out plot points in your head
and then finding out you missed your exit twelve miles back.
--
FRM

Undecided

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Apr 22, 2006, 11:39:28 AM4/22/06
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Dryad wrote:

> I mean, this stuff that's filling my screen with irrelevant crap is, well,
> irrelevant crap. Someone please tell me the secret password to find my way
> back to the real misc.writing.

It's like those clubhouses in trees way before puberty, where exile
could be conflated with elite. There seems to be a maximum credit given
to knowing all the tired old handshakes and codewords.

There was once a character in a story who believed since he was
extremely brittle and weak there must by pure sense of electromagnetic
wave logic be a superhuman around somewhere. That's what inspires the
modern Diogenes in newsgroups.

For myself, I've never been to a party in which I did not figure
something much more exciting MUST be going on somewhere else.


--
Doubting Timus
Ubi Dubium Ibi Libertas
http://tremonius.blogspot.com/

gekko

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Apr 22, 2006, 12:06:55 PM4/22/06
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Mairzydoats and dozydoats, but little Sylvia
<Syl...@cliffhangerREMOVE.com> posts to misc.writing, saying ...


> http://tinyurl.com/zx6dt

The sloth, giant or otherwise, is one of my role models.

Although that skeleton looks NOTHING like Sid.

Undecided

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Apr 22, 2006, 11:57:01 AM4/22/06
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Sylvia wrote:

> Mostly we get a lot of people complainin' that no one is writing about
> writing, but them peeps what's complainin' ain't writin' about writin'
> either.

The cardiac troubles of Larry McMurtry trashed his confidence in a way I
don't understand at all, after which he could no longer write - until
coaxed out of premature retirement by his lady love, who co-wrote Pretty
Boy Floyd with him. I began thinking about how a physical failure could
destroy belief in self.

I thought of him before because I knew another writer, once, I did. She
was what McMurtry would call a "bleeder," in contrast to himself, who
wasn't one. My writer friend wrote stories of rich ladies cast off by
wealthy cads and then picked up by earnest stoic working class heroes.
How she suffered, she said, sleepless before deadlines, grinding it out,
and always and forever there was the elite lady abandoned by rich rascal
and saved by white knight plumbers and such.

I began to see the modern grim groveling for the mot juste as an affect.

Aside: What we learned long ago is that you cannot have a serious
discussion while allowing silly prattle. It's why there are two
separate and equal tables at large family gatherings; so the kids can
have their serious talk without being interrupted by adult drivel. The
quick and easy always drives out the deep and troubling, which is really
not a commercial for laxatives...

Go on.

gekko

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Apr 22, 2006, 12:17:04 PM4/22/06
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Mairzydoats and dozydoats, but little "PJ" <autho...@yahoo.com>

posts to misc.writing, saying ...

> "What do you do for a living?"
>
> "I'm a writer."
>
> "YOU ARE? REALLY? OH MY GOD, I CAN'T BELIEVE IT, WHAT AN
> INCREDIBLE COINCIDENCE, I'M A WRITER TOO, I JUST WON A PRIZE FROM
> OUR CHURCH FOR ARTICLES I WROTE FOR THE MONTHLY BULLETIN, LET'S
> GET TOGETHER AND TALK ABOUT WRITING SOMETIME, I HAVE SO MANY
> FASCINATING THINGS YOU NEED TO KNOW!!!!"
>
> Ever happen to you?

Nah. What happens to me is

"What do you do for a living?"

"I'm a sloth."

"No, really. Whaddaya do?"

"I am a manager for a large corporation."

"Ooh, you a two-toed or a three-toed sloth?"

Undecided

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Apr 22, 2006, 12:14:47 PM4/22/06
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PJ wrote:

> Ever happen to you?

Only the opening question. When I reply "I'm a Crap Artist," they gaze
over my shoulder and plot escape.

There was a more common experience expressed in a novel some plenty
years back. I don't remember the author or the title, but you know the
one I mean.

In a traditional neighborhood, the husband of April Wheeler was
constrained, yearning, angst-riddled. Why, dear, whatever can be the
matter? Oh, it's not you, it's me. You see, I'm a writer, but this job
and this life..."

So April Wheeler set out to remove all burdens and barriers from the
track of her genius. It was Herculean, but she plucked every objection
and punctured each complaint and soothed the brow of her troubled warrior...

...and then noticed he would diligently replace every single hurdle she
had removed. Eventually she discovered his genius was in the leash
rather than the romp.

She died after a self-performed abortion of her stillborn illusions, not
to mix a metaphor. The End.

What was the name of that book? I'm really not sure April Wheeler was
her name. It doesn't Google. It's so very much more common, the story,
than the one about the bored writer beset by amateurs at a party. You
see, the amateurs are legion.

gekko

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Apr 22, 2006, 12:41:11 PM4/22/06
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Mairzydoats and dozydoats, but little Undecided <woe...@yahoo.com>

posts to misc.writing, saying ...

> There was once a character in a story who believed since he was
> extremely brittle and weak there must by pure sense of
> electromagnetic wave logic be a superhuman around somewhere.
> That's what inspires the modern Diogenes in newsgroups.

Earthloaf?

Flag

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Apr 22, 2006, 1:17:19 PM4/22/06
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"Undecided" <woe...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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iwastrolledintohere


One day while sobbing in prayer, I called out to God and asked him why He
allows such turmoil in my life (one of my cats had shat largely in my $95
Nike).

He told me to shut up. "If you think you've got it bad, just log on to MW
and see what real turmoil is about. They are a miss-matched mix of
psychotics, neurotics, silly-dilly liberals, frustrated conservatives and
washed-up over-the-hill hippies. And some of them are foreigners who have
no business posting to this American newsgroup at all."

That's what God said.

I was suddenly humbled--and that is not easy.

--CCflag


ashaanderson

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Apr 22, 2006, 1:27:59 PM4/22/06
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On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 17:53:55 -0700, Towse <se...@towse.com> wrote:

>Dryad wrote:
>
>> ...ever write about 'writing stuff' anymore?
>>
>> I mean, this stuff that's filling my screen with irrelevant crap is, well,
>> irrelevant crap. Someone please tell me the secret password to find my way
>> back to the real misc.writing.
>
>I recognize that last name. Welcome back, L. Long time.
>
>Make of misc.writing what you'd like it to be.
>
>Depend not on posters to do what you'd like them to do, to behave as
>you'd like them to behave, to have brains if they have none, to be kind
>when they're feeling grumpy.
>
>There are certain things two-year-olds are incapable of and it will just
>grit your teeth and churn your stomach to try to get them, f'rex, to share.
>
>misc.writing's a bit like that, you know?
>
>Maybe Chris.tine will come back and play, or some logical (oof-aaah!)
>equivalent, but as they say on the playground. "You first."
>
>Where you been? Whatcha doin' where you are? Been writing? What's your
>favorite place to hang with writerly types on the Web? What do you think
>of David Sedaris? Ever read Miss Snark? Some folk here sing the praises
>of Jane Austen. What do you think?


Sal, you're like coming home after a long cold winter's day and
finding that there's still a fire left in the stove.


a.
http://www.ashabot.com
http://www.ashabot.blogspot.com
Keep out of damn ditch.

Alan Hope

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Apr 22, 2006, 1:32:08 PM4/22/06
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gekko goes:

>Mairzydoats and dozydoats, but little Undecided <woe...@yahoo.com>
>posts to misc.writing, saying ...

>> There was once a character in a story who believed since he was
>> extremely brittle and weak there must by pure sense of
>> electromagnetic wave logic be a superhuman around somewhere.
>> That's what inspires the modern Diogenes in newsgroups.

>Earthloaf?

WTF is he on?


--
AH


Alan Hope

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Apr 22, 2006, 1:35:18 PM4/22/06
to
Undecided goes:

>There seems to be a maximum credit given
>to knowing all the tired old handshakes and codewords.

The handshakes and codewords come from acquaintance, sometimes over
years. Some people have that acquaintance with each other, but you
don't. It doesn't follow they're doing it to exclude you. It just is
that way.

So lighten up.


--
AH


Alan Hope

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Apr 22, 2006, 3:03:03 PM4/22/06
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PJ goes:

Oh, haha.

They were very interesting articles, though I say it myself.


--
AH


PJ

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Apr 22, 2006, 3:13:35 PM4/22/06
to
"Alan Hope" <not.al...@mail.com> wrote in message
news:05qk4258hnkhmae4b...@4ax.com...

> Undecided goes:
>
>>There seems to be a maximum credit given to knowing all the tired old
>>handshakes and codewords.
>
> The handshakes

I meant to talk to you about this ... that little finger tickle thing you
did? That wasn't really part of the handshake and completely unnecessary.

> and codewords

Moth. Monkeysocks. Jehovah. Moped. Cockateil.

Tomorrow. 2100 hours.

Word.

Dig?

Alan Hope

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Apr 22, 2006, 4:26:31 PM4/22/06
to
PJ goes:

>"Alan Hope" <not.al...@mail.com> wrote in message
>news:05qk4258hnkhmae4b...@4ax.com...
>> Undecided goes:

>>>There seems to be a maximum credit given to knowing all the tired old
>>>handshakes and codewords.

>> The handshakes

>I meant to talk to you about this ... that little finger tickle thing you
>did? That wasn't really part of the handshake and completely unnecessary.

Not completely unnecessary. It got my rocks off later that evening.
And may indeed do so again this.

>> and codewords

>Moth. Monkeysocks. Jehovah. Moped. Cockateil.

>Tomorrow. 2100 hours.

>Word.

>Dig?

Barry Cryer with a bottle of Sanatogen in a Gypsy Moth over Godalming
at Michaelmas.

So be there.


--
AH


pandora

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Apr 22, 2006, 5:52:15 PM4/22/06
to

"Dryad" <ljsca...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:FKd2g.762$ww6.181@trnddc05...
> ...ever write about 'writing stuff' anymore?
>
> I mean, this stuff that's filling my screen with irrelevant crap is, well,
> irrelevant crap. Someone please tell me the secret password to find my way
> back to the real misc.writing.
>
What do you want to say/ask/write about? We're here. You just have to dig
a bit deeper.

Marg

pandora

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Apr 22, 2006, 6:19:15 PM4/22/06
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"Frank Raymond Michaels" <frmichaelsMUNG'D...@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:Xns97AD5BDFDEC58fr...@69.28.186.158...

> "PJ" <autho...@yahoo.com> wrote in
> news:wJ6dnb749rW...@comcast.com:
>
> > "Frank Raymond Michaels" <frmichaelsMUNG'D...@optonline.net> wrote:
> >
> >> So what would you like to talk about?
> >
> > Writing. Or rather, the hazards of being a writer. I want to know if
> > other writers get sick of the following conversation:
> >
> > "What do you do for a living?"
> >
> > "I'm a writer."

Hey, try telling them you're a poet sometime if you *really* want their eyes
to glaze over.

> > "YOU ARE? REALLY? OH MY GOD, I CAN'T BELIEVE IT, WHAT AN INCREDIBLE
> > COINCIDENCE, I'M A WRITER TOO, I JUST WON A PRIZE FROM OUR CHURCH FOR
> > ARTICLES I WROTE FOR THE MONTHLY BULLETIN, LET'S GET TOGETHER AND TALK
> > ABOUT WRITING SOMETIME, I HAVE SO MANY FASCINATING THINGS YOU NEED TO
> > KNOW!!!!"
> >
> > Ever happen to you?
>
> No, but I do not make my living at writing (unless you count technical
> documentation I create as part of my IT job). Folk ask me what I do, I
> tell them computers and either a) their eyes glaze over and I safely
> escape, or b) I end up fixing their printer (it's always their printer).

Hehehehehe. Used to happen to me all the time when I worked for an ISP.
People seemed to assume that I knew ALL of the programs they were using on
their computer. (OF course, sometimes I did which made it all the worse.)

> Yes I write, yes I've been published, and yes I've some writing projects
> in the pipe that may (or may not) result in fame, fortune, and women
> hurling themselves at my feet, but writing is still more of an avocation
> to me, so I typically don't identify myself to people as a writer, and I
> am selective as to whom I talk about writing. Especially in long run-on
> sentences.

I write poetry, mostly and a few novels and short shorts. So far, only the
poetry has been published, well except for a couple of stories a few years
back. I'm working on getting my novels looked at/read. It's about time I
think for me to do that. Shit or get off the pot time has arrived.

> The hazards of writing, to me, are working out plot points in your head
> and then finding out you missed your exit twelve miles back.

Heh. I just point my car toward the coast and it takes me there. No turns
necessary.

Marg


> --
> FRM


gekko

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Apr 22, 2006, 6:17:00 PM4/22/06
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Mairzydoats and dozydoats, but little "PJ" <autho...@yahoo.com>
posts to misc.writing, saying ...

> Moth. Monkeysocks. Jehovah. Moped. Cockateil.

galoshes. blubber. beluga. mukluks. macadamia. bouffant. bulbous.

gekko

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Apr 22, 2006, 6:18:28 PM4/22/06
to
Mairzydoats and dozydoats, but little Alan Hope
<not.al...@mail.com> posts to misc.writing, saying ...

Peej was peeved:


>>I meant to talk to you about this ... that little finger tickle
>>thing you did? That wasn't really part of the handshake and
>>completely unnecessary.
>
> Not completely unnecessary. It got my rocks off later that
> evening. And may indeed do so again this.

So this is what you're here for, is it, Alan? Low-grade ham-fisted
camp sexual innuendo between the middle-aged, and, in your case,
wrinkled and overweight.

Gosh, no wonder you're annoyed at Stanners for tearing down all your
efforts.

pandora

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Apr 22, 2006, 6:21:40 PM4/22/06
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"PJ" <autho...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:wJ6dnb749rW...@comcast.com...

> Filtering out the swamp scum can indeed be a daunting challenge, but it's
> worth the effort, I think. There are some cool people here. No, I won't
list
> them.

I think that *everyone* here, currently is/are cool people. I don't
classify anyone here right now as swamp scum.

> > Sorry to hear you've been going through a rough stripe, but welcome
back.
>
> I second that. Welcome back, Lara, I hope things are better for you now.

And I third that.

Marg

Alan Hope

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Apr 22, 2006, 6:30:34 PM4/22/06
to
gekko goes:

>Mairzydoats and dozydoats, but little Alan Hope
><not.al...@mail.com> posts to misc.writing, saying ...

>Peej was peeved:
>>>I meant to talk to you about this ... that little finger tickle
>>>thing you did? That wasn't really part of the handshake and
>>>completely unnecessary.

>> Not completely unnecessary. It got my rocks off later that
>> evening. And may indeed do so again this.

>So this is what you're here for, is it, Alan? Low-grade ham-fisted
>camp sexual innuendo between the middle-aged, and, in your case,
>wrinkled and overweight.

Masturbatory, not sexual. I thought we'd made that clear. Look what
your monkey wrote:

>>> Oh, I grasp it. You're here to jerk off. Got it.

See?

>Gosh, no wonder you're annoyed at Stanners for tearing down all your
>efforts.

Well I'm not. Nobody tears down my efforts. If only someone would try.

See, your joke might have worked quite nicely, had it not been for the
punchline. That's something you really need to watch.


--
AH


Towse

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Apr 22, 2006, 6:43:25 PM4/22/06
to
Alan Hope wrote:

> Barry Cryer with a bottle of Sanatogen in a Gypsy Moth over Godalming
> at Michaelmas.
>
> So be there.

"Ou sont les neiges..."

Alan Hope

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Apr 22, 2006, 7:28:42 PM4/22/06
to
Towse goes:

>Alan Hope wrote:

>> Barry Cryer with a bottle of Sanatogen in a Gypsy Moth over Godalming
>> at Michaelmas.

>> So be there.

>"Ou sont les neiges..."

En effet.


--
AH


Dick Harper

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Apr 22, 2006, 11:15:37 PM4/22/06
to
Frank Raymond Michaels eloquently commented in misc.writing

> Some of the old guard are still here, some (like you) have come back
> after prolonged absences (John Scalzi poked his head in here recently as
> well, as has John Ashby; whether they stay or not is up to them), some
> (like me) have skip-dash participation depending upon available time and
> interest.
>

> There are some absent posters whose participation I truly miss, and wish
> they'd at least pop in: Gail (any word about her? her health was rather
> fragile last time I'd seen her post), Harper, Hound, Keltic, Terje,
> Clough, Doug, Harris, AJB, the two Erics (Garcia and Bycer), a whole
> bunch of Carols, a small fleet of Pauls, Lutz (I know where to find him,
> though), Faith, Davida (you made a list!), Kurt, Penrose, Funke, Arleen,
> Deck and Alma, Bil, and others whose names are not listed and will pop
> in to berate me for not listing them.

It is always worthwhile, when making lists like that to
include at least a couple of the people you wish would pop out.
Oh.
I see.
Well, rats.
I'm afraid I am responsible for Hound's absence as well as
for Deck and Alma's. Hound disappeared right after I invited him
to the No Puffin Wr*v*l-without-a-name and hasn't been heard
from since. Deck and Alma did come a'visiting but I showed them
some houses in Richford and they were so entranced, they moved
to Washington state (1).
As for Lutz, I understand he has started a new business
with beverages and costumes and stuff (2).
Meanwhile, I'm about a week away from assembling the
world's largest artist's palette which we expect either to tow
around on a float in front of 50,000 really sticky people at the
Maple Festival or to be used by a clan of pygmies preparing the
world's shortest (but widest) mural.

> FRM (I recently invented the Goldfish Barometer...)

Better than the Goldfish Hygrometer.

--Dick (100%, innit)

---------------
(1) Alma is prolly on a book tour as we speak for The
The Secrets of Jin-shei or The Embers of Heaven.
(2) I'll most likely make it to the Great Glenside
BackyardBacchanalia of Ought Six. You better
be there, too.

Steve Pritchard

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Apr 23, 2006, 11:45:55 AM4/23/06
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"Dick Harper" <Internation...@NorthPuffinSpamCatcher.com>
wrote in message news:444aeb8f...@news.gmavt.net...

> (2) I'll most likely make it to the Great Glenside
> BackyardBacchanalia of Ought Six.

Cool


gekko

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Apr 23, 2006, 12:16:54 PM4/23/06
to
So it isn't a triple-dark-fudge brownie with a scoop of vanilla bean
icecream on top, but Internation...@NorthPuffinSpamCatcher.com
(Dick Harper) did write something interesting in news:444aeb8f.25600932
@news.gmavt.net:


> I'm about a week away from assembling the
> world's largest artist's palette

I think Sylvia uses computers, rather than paint, so maybe you'll want
to reconsider the palette, hmmm?

--
gekko

What's another word for Thesaurus?

Dick Harper

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Apr 23, 2006, 1:35:02 PM4/23/06
to
gekko eloquently commented in misc.writing

> Dick Harper did write

>
> > I'm about a week away from assembling the
> > world's largest artist's palette
>
> I think Sylvia uses computers, rather than paint, so maybe you'll want
> to reconsider the palette, hmmm?

Sylvia is not a clan.

--Dick (short reply)

Flag

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Apr 23, 2006, 4:02:59 PM4/23/06
to

"Dick Harper" <Internation...@NorthPuffinSpamCatcher.com> wrote in
message news:444aeb8f...@news.gmavt.net...
>> (2) I'll most likely make it to the Great Glenside
> BackyardBacchanalia of Ought Six. You better
> be there, too.


I will be attending an old persons' convention in downtown Philly a few days
beforehand. Weather permitting, I will hang around and check into said
Bacchanalia. Lutz said the real debauchery doesn't start until the 10th.
It doesn't take me long to get debauched.

--CCglaf


Ray Haddad

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Apr 23, 2006, 6:07:40 PM4/23/06
to
On Sun, 23 Apr 2006 15:02:59 -0500, I said, "Pick a card, any card"
and "Flag" <nos...@nospam.com> instead replied:

>It doesn't take me long to get debauched.

Ooh, that's gotta hurt.
--
Ray

sayitisntso

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Apr 24, 2006, 11:20:34 AM4/24/06
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I'm a published author and ck into this forum once in a while but I'm
totally lost. What are you guys talking about or working? How do we
join in?

If you're interested in a writer's forum, visit:
http://p068.ezboard.com/bwritersblocked

gekko

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Apr 24, 2006, 11:36:47 AM4/24/06
to
It's the story of a lovely lady, who, in misc.writing, was bringing
up three very lovely girls, one of whom was named "sayitisntso"
<debraj...@gmail.com>, and she said:


> I'm a published author and ck into this forum

"newsgroup"

> once in a while but I'm
> totally lost. What are you guys talking about

Whatever pleases us.

> or working?

Me? I'm taking time off of work for a few.


> How do we
> join in?

Poast.

<snip> If I was interested in a writer's forum, I'd've found one by
now, yes?


--
gekko

Press CTRL-ALT-DEL to continue ...

Alan Hope

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Apr 24, 2006, 12:05:38 PM4/24/06
to
sayitisntso goes:

If you're interested in a writer's forum [sic] why don't you go there
instead of coming here and doing the thing that's not shutting the
fuck up.


--
AH


Stan (the Man)

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Apr 24, 2006, 12:21:13 PM4/24/06
to

You'll have to excuse Zenalan, sayitisntso. He's trying to demonstrate
to the rest of us that he's not a very ugly, very little man ("am not!
am not!") and he's experiencing a bit of a stutter-start. You know how
it is.

--
Stan

chris....@gmail.com

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Apr 24, 2006, 12:42:40 PM4/24/06
to

Towse wrote:

> Dryad wrote:
>
> > ...ever write about 'writing stuff' anymore?
> >
> > I mean, this stuff that's filling my screen with irrelevant crap is, well,
> > irrelevant crap. Someone please tell me the secret password to find my way
> > back to the real misc.writing.
>
> I recognize that last name. Welcome back, L. Long time.
>
> Make of misc.writing what you'd like it to be.
>
> Depend not on posters to do what you'd like them to do, to behave as
> you'd like them to behave, to have brains if they have none, to be kind
> when they're feeling grumpy.
>
> There are certain things two-year-olds are incapable of and it will just
> grit your teeth and churn your stomach to try to get them, f'rex, to share.
>
> misc.writing's a bit like that, you know?
>
> Maybe Chris.tine will come back and play, or some logical (oof-aaah!)
> equivalent, but as they say on the playground. "You first."

Saturday, Chris.tine fought--and lost--a battle with a Virginia creeper
big around as her wrist and now has a fractured ulna. One handed
keyboarding sucks.

c

gekko

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Apr 24, 2006, 1:23:23 PM4/24/06
to
It's the story of a lovely lady, who, in misc.writing, was bringing
up three very lovely girls, one of whom was named

I thought Geno was from Texas?

Stan (the Man)

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Apr 24, 2006, 1:28:40 PM4/24/06
to

er. CreepER.

--
Stan

Flag

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Apr 24, 2006, 2:24:59 PM4/24/06
to

"chris_...@hotmail.com" <chris....@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1145896960.6...@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...

My queen, I hope you didn't misspell vulva. But even so, a cracked wingbone
is a bummer. I hope you mend quickly and without pain and deformation.

--Geno


Flag

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Apr 24, 2006, 2:28:32 PM4/24/06
to

"Stan (the Man)" <stanN...@rvckids.us.Invalid> wrote in message
news:%T73g.51$uT2...@fe09.lga...


Well. I've never been so insulted in all my life. Although I will admit to
being as "big around as her wrist".

--CCflag


Flag

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Apr 24, 2006, 2:29:47 PM4/24/06
to

"Ray Haddad" <rha...@iexpress.net.au> wrote in message
news:skun42lkhtjpci1gj...@4ax.com...


No pain no gain.


Towse

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Apr 24, 2006, 2:40:23 PM4/24/06
to
chris_...@hotmail.com wrote:
> Towse wrote:

>>Maybe Chris.tine will come back and play, or some logical (oof-aaah!)
>>equivalent, but as they say on the playground. "You first."
>
> Saturday, Chris.tine fought--and lost--a battle with a Virginia creeper
> big around as her wrist and now has a fractured ulna.

Ouch.

> One handed keyboarding sucks.

Alan Hope

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Apr 24, 2006, 2:58:33 PM4/24/06
to
Stan (the Man) goes:

Recruiting for your little gang, Stannie?

It's not like it used to be, is it? Remember when someone else took
care of all that, and you could kick back and just be a Contributing
Gangfucker? Those were the days.

And now it's all gone. And you're left all alone, with only Ray for
comfort.

<sigh>


--
AH


chris....@gmail.com

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Apr 24, 2006, 3:05:52 PM4/24/06
to

Flag wrote:
>
> My queen, I hope you didn't misspell vulva. But even so, a cracked wingbone
> is a bummer. I hope you mend quickly and without pain and deformation.

Too much time spent with your metacarpals and phalanges, I think. Like
ice cream, vulvas don't have bones.

Christine

Stan (the Man)

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Apr 24, 2006, 3:18:57 PM4/24/06
to
Alan Hope wrote:
> Stan (the Man) goes:
>
>> Alan Hope wrote:
>>> sayitisntso goes:
>
>>>> I'm a published author and ck into this forum once in a while but I'm
>>>> totally lost. What are you guys talking about or working? How do we
>>>> join in?
>
>>>> If you're interested in a writer's forum, visit:
>>>> http://p068.ezboard.com/bwritersblocked
>
>>> If you're interested in a writer's forum [sic] why don't you go there
>>> instead of coming here and doing the thing that's not shutting the
>>> fuck up.
>
>> You'll have to excuse Zenalan, sayitisntso. He's trying to demonstrate
>> to the rest of us that he's not a very ugly, very little man ("am not!
>> am not!") and he's experiencing a bit of a stutter-start. You know how
>> it is.
>
> Recruiting for your little gang, Stannie?

Heh. Bit of a bizarre interpretation whine there, denial-boy. This is
what "recruiting" a gang looks like:

Alan Hope wrote:

> Ray Haddad goes:
>
>> Alan, you don't speak or write majority English. You lose. Period.
>
> Sorry, what's he saying? Anyone?

Ok, it's also begging, but I guess you're getting understandably desperate.

> It's not like it used to be, is it? Remember when someone else took
> care of all that, and you could kick back and just be a Contributing
> Gangfucker? Those were the days.
>
> And now it's all gone. And you're left all alone, with only Ray for
> comfort.
>
> <sigh>

Zenalan and irony. Go together like a horse and horseshit, eh?

--
Stan

Stan (the Man)

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Apr 24, 2006, 3:19:46 PM4/24/06
to

uh-oh

--
Stan

Alan Hope

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Apr 24, 2006, 4:08:45 PM4/24/06
to
Stan (the Man) goes:

No, that's what a joke looks like, but I suppose if it doesn't involve
you showing your knob to someone, you don't recognise the humour.

>> It's not like it used to be, is it? Remember when someone else took
>> care of all that, and you could kick back and just be a Contributing
>> Gangfucker? Those were the days.

>> And now it's all gone. And you're left all alone, with only Ray for
>> comfort.

>> <sigh>

>Zenalan and irony. Go together like a horse and horseshit, eh?

The only irony you know anything about is the platey in your skully.


--
AH


Stan (the Man)

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Apr 24, 2006, 4:18:36 PM4/24/06
to

A joke. Suuuuuuure it was. Yep. I believe you. Honest. No plea for help
there. NopeNopeNope. Ok. If you say so. Bwah!

>>> It's not like it used to be, is it? Remember when someone else took
>>> care of all that, and you could kick back and just be a Contributing
>>> Gangfucker? Those were the days.
>
>>> And now it's all gone. And you're left all alone, with only Ray for
>>> comfort.
>
>>> <sigh>
>
>> Zenalan and irony. Go together like a horse and horseshit, eh?
>
> The only irony you know anything about is the platey in your skully.

Last vestiges of your pride gone bye-bye, eh, Zenalan? Sad.

--
Stan

Ray Haddad

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Apr 24, 2006, 5:27:41 PM4/24/06
to
On 24 Apr 2006 09:42:40 -0700, I said, "Pick a card, any card" and
"chris_...@hotmail.com" <chris....@gmail.com> instead
replied:

>Saturday, Chris.tine fought--and lost--a battle with a Virginia creeper
>big around as her wrist and now has a fractured ulna. One handed
>keyboarding sucks.

Whoa! Tough plant!

Sorry to hear that, Chris. I hope it heals well and rapidly.

My iPaq PocketPC has a voice input which can send speech direct to
type in a Word document. If that little thing can do it, there must
be some program out there for a PC or Mac to do the same.
--
Ray

Alan Hope

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Apr 24, 2006, 5:57:07 PM4/24/06
to
Stan (the Man) goes:

I've used it before, in that mnid ng where I kicked your arse once.
Look it up.

>>>> It's not like it used to be, is it? Remember when someone else took
>>>> care of all that, and you could kick back and just be a Contributing
>>>> Gangfucker? Those were the days.

>>>> And now it's all gone. And you're left all alone, with only Ray for
>>>> comfort.

>>>> <sigh>

>>> Zenalan and irony. Go together like a horse and horseshit, eh?

>> The only irony you know anything about is the platey in your skully.

>Last vestiges of your pride gone bye-bye, eh, Zenalan? Sad.

Sad? The gangfucker supreme is calling me zenalan and he calls *me*
sad?

That's not irony, but it is funny.


--
AH
http://sour-grapes.blogsource.com



Stan (the Man)

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Apr 24, 2006, 6:15:07 PM4/24/06
to

I remember you running back to mw for help.

>>>>> It's not like it used to be, is it? Remember when someone else took
>>>>> care of all that, and you could kick back and just be a Contributing
>>>>> Gangfucker? Those were the days.
>
>>>>> And now it's all gone. And you're left all alone, with only Ray for
>>>>> comfort.
>
>>>>> <sigh>
>
>>>> Zenalan and irony. Go together like a horse and horseshit, eh?
>
>>> The only irony you know anything about is the platey in your skully.
>
>> Last vestiges of your pride gone bye-bye, eh, Zenalan? Sad.
>
> Sad? The gangfucker supreme is calling me zenalan and he calls *me*
> sad?

Irritates the crap outta you, doesn't it?

> That's not irony, but it is funny.

I should say so. Of course, that laughter you're hearing isn't exactly
what you so desperately hope it is.

--
Stan

Alan Hope

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Apr 24, 2006, 6:41:16 PM4/24/06
to
Stan (the Man) goes:

That's your Korsakoff's acting up.

But don't change the subject.

>>>>>> It's not like it used to be, is it? Remember when someone else took
>>>>>> care of all that, and you could kick back and just be a Contributing
>>>>>> Gangfucker? Those were the days.

>>>>>> And now it's all gone. And you're left all alone, with only Ray for
>>>>>> comfort.

>>>>>> <sigh>

>>>>> Zenalan and irony. Go together like a horse and horseshit, eh?

>>>> The only irony you know anything about is the platey in your skully.

>>> Last vestiges of your pride gone bye-bye, eh, Zenalan? Sad.

>> Sad? The gangfucker supreme is calling me zenalan and he calls *me*
>> sad?

>Irritates the crap outta you, doesn't it?

Your gangfucking? Not really. It's your trademark. You never go up
against anyone alone.

>> That's not irony, but it is funny.

>I should say so. Of course, that laughter you're hearing isn't exactly
>what you so desperately hope it is.

Clumsy sentence. Work on that.


--
AH
http://sour-grapes.blogsource.com



Flag

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Apr 24, 2006, 7:31:17 PM4/24/06
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Oh, ghod. I'm sorry. I meant Volvo. Damn, I feel so dumb. Lordy lordy®
and all that.

Seriously, mend quickly and without pain (it's from the Bible).

--GGglag


Me

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Apr 24, 2006, 8:14:07 PM4/24/06
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chris_...@hotmail.com wrote:
> Towse wrote:

>
>
> Saturday, Chris.tine fought--and lost--a battle with a Virginia creeper
> big around as her wrist and now has a fractured ulna. One handed
> keyboarding sucks.

Well. Why didn't Virginia law enforcement take care of him before he
headed out to the Midwest?

Interesting that I assume your Virginia creeper is a man. I guess a
woman can be a creeper, too.

Donna (I was bit seven times on my left hand by fire ants yesterday.
You people don't have fire ants, do you?)

Bob (this one)

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Apr 24, 2006, 8:41:21 PM4/24/06
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chris_...@hotmail.com wrote:

> One handed keyboarding sucks.

Lotta guys around here been doing it for years...

No, seriously...

Pastorio

Flag

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Apr 24, 2006, 8:58:12 PM4/24/06
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"Me" <adl123...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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This is Texas. We make ours wear muzzles.
--CCflag


Ray Haddad

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Apr 24, 2006, 9:42:24 PM4/24/06
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On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 00:14:07 GMT, I said, "Pick a card, any card"
and Me <adl123...@mindspring.com> instead replied:

>You people don't have fire ants, do you?

As pets, no. As pests, yes.
--
Ray

Stan (the Man)

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Apr 24, 2006, 10:18:13 PM4/24/06
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Alan Hope wrote:
> Stan (the Man) goes:

<...>

>>>>>>> Sorry, what's he saying? Anyone?
>
>>>>>> Ok, it's also begging, but I guess you're getting understandably desperate.
>
>>>>> No, that's what a joke looks like, but I suppose if it doesn't involve
>>>>> you showing your knob to someone, you don't recognise the humour.
>
>>>> A joke. Suuuuuuure it was. Yep. I believe you. Honest. No plea for help
>>>> there. NopeNopeNope. Ok. If you say so. Bwah!
>
>>> I've used it before, in that mnid ng where I kicked your arse once.
>>> Look it up.
>
>> I remember you running back to mw for help.
>
> That's your Korsakoff's acting up.

Mmno. It's a fact. Hiked up your skirt and ran screaming for back-up. It
was a hoot.

> But don't change the subject.

You being a very ugly, very little man is the subject.

>>>>>>> It's not like it used to be, is it? Remember when someone else took
>>>>>>> care of all that, and you could kick back and just be a Contributing
>>>>>>> Gangfucker? Those were the days.
>
>>>>>>> And now it's all gone. And you're left all alone, with only Ray for
>>>>>>> comfort.
>
>>>>>>> <sigh>
>
>>>>>> Zenalan and irony. Go together like a horse and horseshit, eh?
>
>>>>> The only irony you know anything about is the platey in your skully.
>
>>>> Last vestiges of your pride gone bye-bye, eh, Zenalan? Sad.
>
>>> Sad? The gangfucker supreme is calling me zenalan and he calls *me*
>>> sad?
>
>> Irritates the crap outta you, doesn't it?
>
> Your gangfucking? Not really. It's your trademark. You never go up
> against anyone alone.

Heh. You're dribbling on your chin. Stop doing that. It's . . . unseemly.

>>> That's not irony, but it is funny.
>
>> I should say so. Of course, that laughter you're hearing isn't exactly
>> what you so desperately hope it is.
>
> Clumsy sentence. Work on that.

Anything to avoid facing the truth, eh, Zenalan?

--
Stan

Dr Zen

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Apr 24, 2006, 10:36:07 PM4/24/06
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GIGO, innit. Ray Haddad <rha...@iexpress.net.au> fed this in:

Do you have them over there? It's all checkpoints and spraying here as
they slowly spread across the burbs.
--

Dr Zen

I do believe that amor vincit omnia
or at least that if you have the amor,
you have a fighting chance.
http://gollyg.blogspot.com

Ray Haddad

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Apr 24, 2006, 10:55:50 PM4/24/06
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On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 12:36:07 +1000, I said, "Pick a card, any card"
and Dr Zen <longho...@gmail.com> instead replied:

>GIGO, innit. Ray Haddad <rha...@iexpress.net.au> fed this in:
>
>>On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 00:14:07 GMT, I said, "Pick a card, any card"
>>and Me <adl123...@mindspring.com> instead replied:
>>
>>>You people don't have fire ants, do you?
>>
>>As pets, no. As pests, yes.
>
>Do you have them over there? It's all checkpoints and spraying here as
>they slowly spread across the burbs.

I was referring to Australia as a whole but you got me curious. I
made a phone call to a mate who works for CALM (Conservation And
Land Management), he tells me that we had a colony intercepted on a
truck two years ago. Apparently it was hiding in the wall panels and
had made an estimated 2 trips in and out of WA. The queen was never
moved but some of the workers may have leapt off in transit, etc.
We're told to be watching for them. Steve Irwin can't seem to stomp
enough of them.
--
Ray

Dan Goodman

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Apr 25, 2006, 12:27:13 AM4/25/06
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Bob (this one) wrote:

I did it for a while at work, the last (I hope) time I broke a fall
with my left hand and had to wear a cast for a while. (I'm lefthanded.)

Turned out I could still type faster than the Data General terminals
could keep up with me.

Around that time, I started insisting that my initials were DSG rather
than DG.

--
Dan Goodman
All political parties die at last of swallowing their own lies.
John Arbuthnot (1667-1735), Scottish writer, physician.
Journal http://dsgood.livejournal.com
Clutterers Anonymous unofficial community
http://community.livejournal.com/clutterers_anon/
Decluttering http://decluttering.blogspot.com
Predictions and Politics http://dsgood.blogspot.com
Links http://del.icio.us/dsgood

Alan Hope

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Apr 25, 2006, 2:06:29 AM4/25/06
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Stan (the Man) goes:

>Mmno. It's a fact. Hiked up your skirt and ran screaming for back-up. It
>was a hoot.

When you start lying, it's time to fold, Stan. It was bad before, but
lying won't make it better. Didn't your mother teach you anything?


--
AH
http://sour-grapes.blogsource.com



Stan (the Man)

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Apr 25, 2006, 6:23:04 AM4/25/06
to

Alan Hope wrote:
> Stan (the Man) goes:
>
>> Mmno. It's a fact. Hiked up your skirt and ran screaming for back-up. It
>> was a hoot.
>
> When you start lying, it's time to fold, Stan. It was bad before, but
> lying won't make it better. Didn't your mother teach you anything?

What a desperate, very ugly, very small man you are, Zenalan. No, I'm
not lying, as you well know. But, I certainly can't blame you for
trying. It has to be a rather large embarrassment for you. At least, it
should be.

--
Stan

Flag

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Apr 25, 2006, 8:53:29 AM4/25/06
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"Ray Haddad" <rha...@iexpress.net.au> wrote in message
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Good point. +note to Me: Don't pet the fire ants.

I put fire ant poison on the lawns twice a year, and it controls them on the
manor grounds. Otherwise they would trail to the cats' food and invade
their dishes and bite them on their little lips. I hate putting lip balm on
cats' lips.

I also put out slug/snail bait, but it has to be done monthly during the
spring and summer at least. I've tried trying to catch them, but they
scurry away too fast--and they won't go into the have-a-heart live- catch
trap.

They are smarter than you think.

--CCflag


Alan Hope

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Apr 25, 2006, 10:46:17 AM4/25/06
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Stan (the Man) goes:

>Alan Hope wrote:
>> Stan (the Man) goes:

>>> Mmno. It's a fact. Hiked up your skirt and ran screaming for back-up. It
>>> was a hoot.

>> When you start lying, it's time to fold, Stan. It was bad before, but
>> lying won't make it better. Didn't your mother teach you anything?

>What a desperate, very ugly, very small man you are, Zenalan.

What a liar you are. Fuck off now.


--
AH
http://sour-grapes.blogsource.com



Stan (the Man)

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Apr 25, 2006, 10:58:48 AM4/25/06
to
Alan Hope wrote:
> Stan (the Man) goes:
>
>> Alan Hope wrote:
>>> Stan (the Man) goes:
>
>>>> Mmno. It's a fact. Hiked up your skirt and ran screaming for back-up. It
>>>> was a hoot.
>
>>> When you start lying, it's time to fold, Stan. It was bad before, but
>>> lying won't make it better. Didn't your mother teach you anything?
>
>> What a desperate, very ugly, very small man you are, Zenalan.
>
> What a liar you are. Fuck off now.

Or what, dishonorable little man? You know what you are and what you did
and we both know I certainly haven't lied. Sucks for you.

--
Stan

gekko

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Apr 25, 2006, 11:33:40 AM4/25/06
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'If this doesn't crash Usenet, nothing will,' "Flag"
<nos...@nospam.com> said as the button was pushed to send
news:124s6r4...@corp.supernews.com out into misc.writing to
proclaim:

I saw some old "Ripley's Believe It Or Not" program that someone had
stored on our DVR. I think the episode came from 2002. There was a
woman there who kept rats as pets. Not your average wild sewer rat.
Pet store rats. Lab rats, prolly. She had one that was bred to be
hairless. A naked rat.

Anyway, I could not help but think what an interesting combination
that would make, if you and she were married. It would keep things
hopping around your mansion, that's for sure.

--
gekko

Ham and Eggs. Just a day's work for a chicken but a lifetime
commitment for a pig

Alan Hope

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Apr 25, 2006, 12:17:48 PM4/25/06
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Stan (the Man) goes:

>we both know I certainly haven't lied.

One more. Go raffle it elsewhere, liar.


--
AH
http://sour-grapes.blogsource.com



Alan Hope

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Apr 25, 2006, 12:18:37 PM4/25/06
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gekko goes:

>I saw some old "Ripley's Believe It Or Not" program that someone had
>stored on our DVR. I think the episode came from 2002. There was a
>woman there who kept rats as pets. Not your average wild sewer rat.
>Pet store rats. Lab rats, prolly. She had one that was bred to be
>hairless. A naked rat.

U is st00pid. Labs rats have white coats. Way not naked.


--
AH
http://sour-grapes.blogsource.com



Stan (the Man)

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Apr 25, 2006, 1:06:22 PM4/25/06
to
Alan Hope wrote:
> Stan (the Man) goes:
>
>> we both know I certainly haven't lied.
>
> One more. Go raffle it elsewhere, liar.

Kills you when your chickens come home to roost, doesn't it? Seems kind
of stupid to attempt to deny you ran for help from mnid to mw. I mean,
it's all right there in google. But, as you've been demonstrating,
denial is your thing. And, I have to admit that watching you tie
yourself up in knots is kind of funny.

--
Stan

gekko

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Apr 25, 2006, 1:59:24 PM4/25/06
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Alan Hope <not.al...@mail.com> was like:


> gekko goes:
>
>>I saw some old "Ripley's Believe It Or Not" program that someone
>>had stored on our DVR. I think the episode came from 2002. There
>>was a woman there who kept rats as pets. Not your average wild
>>sewer rat. Pet store rats. Lab rats, prolly. She had one that
>>was bred to be hairless. A naked rat.
>
> U is st00pid. Labs rats have white coats. Way not naked.
>
>

Underneath our lab coats, we are all of us nekkid.


--
gekko

Chaos, panic, & disorder--my work here is done.

sayitisntso

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Apr 25, 2006, 2:21:53 PM4/25/06
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I can honestly say I have *never* received these kinds of comments
ever, anywhere--and from such an innoculous post. Wow. That's a lot
of hositilty. All I did was ask a few questions and leave a link.
That's really scary.

Offically off this board.

Alan Hope

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Apr 25, 2006, 3:53:53 PM4/25/06
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Stan (the Man) goes:

>chickens

Indeed. Fuck off now, liar.


--
AH
http://sour-grapes.blogsource.com



Alan Hope

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Apr 25, 2006, 3:55:07 PM4/25/06
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gekko goes:

>Alan Hope <not.al...@mail.com> was like:

>> gekko goes:

>>>I saw some old "Ripley's Believe It Or Not" program that someone
>>>had stored on our DVR. I think the episode came from 2002. There
>>>was a woman there who kept rats as pets. Not your average wild
>>>sewer rat. Pet store rats. Lab rats, prolly. She had one that
>>>was bred to be hairless. A naked rat.

>> U is st00pid. Labs rats have white coats. Way not naked.

>Underneath our lab coats, we are all of us nekkid.

Ewww. 144.


--
AH
http://sour-grapes.blogsource.com



Stan (the Man)

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Apr 25, 2006, 4:20:43 PM4/25/06
to
Alan Hope wrote:
> Stan (the Man) goes:
>
>> chickens
>
> Indeed. Fuck off now, liar.

And miss your desperate denials and demonstrations of your utter
dishonesty? Not bloody likely. You can call me "liar" and snip all you
like and be as shrill as you like, but it won't change the fact that
I've stated nothing but truth. And, in the end, you'll still be a very
ugly, very small man.

--
Stan

Alan Hope

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Apr 25, 2006, 4:49:29 PM4/25/06
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Stan (the Man) goes:

>snip all

Took the words right out of my mouth.

Night, liar.


--
AH
http://sour-grapes.blogsource.com



Stan (the Man)

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Apr 25, 2006, 4:57:50 PM4/25/06
to
Alan Hope wrote:
> Stan (the Man) goes:
>
>> snip all
>
> Took the words right out of my mouth.

You're ability to snip the words is all you've got left. But, the truth
is still all there, much to your dismay. You can't snip away truth.

> Night, liar.

Buh-bye, ugly little man. Sleep tight.

--
Stan

Alan Hope

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Apr 25, 2006, 5:28:07 PM4/25/06
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Stan (the Man) goes:

>dismay

Not surprised.

How awkward for you.


--
AH
http://sour-grapes.blogsource.com



Stan (the Man)

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Apr 25, 2006, 5:33:32 PM4/25/06
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Alan Hope wrote:
> Stan (the Man) goes:
>
>> dismay
>
> Not surprised.
>
> How awkward for you.

Poor, ugly little man. It's all you can do, yet it does you no good.
You've run out of tactics. How very sad.

--
Stan

Alan Hope

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Apr 25, 2006, 5:51:33 PM4/25/06
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Stan (the Man) goes:

>

--
AH
http://sour-grapes.blogsource.com



Ray Haddad

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Apr 25, 2006, 6:14:00 PM4/25/06
to
On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 23:28:07 +0200, I said, "Pick a card, any card"
and Alan Hope <not.al...@mail.com> instead replied:

>awkward

Ever noted how awkward that word really is?
--
Ray

Ray Haddad

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Apr 25, 2006, 6:14:55 PM4/25/06
to
On 25 Apr 2006 11:21:53 -0700, I said, "Pick a card, any card" and
"sayitisntso" <debraj...@gmail.com> instead replied:

It's not a board, it's a . . .

Oh, well. Too late.
--
Ray

Stan (the Man)

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Apr 25, 2006, 8:07:04 PM4/25/06
to

Alan Hope wrote:
> Stan (the Man) goes:

> Poor, ugly little man. It's all you can do, yet it does you no good.


> You've run out of tactics. How very sad.

Out of defense, eh? Concession accepted.

--
Stan

Dr Zen

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Apr 25, 2006, 10:38:16 PM4/25/06
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GIGO, innit. "Stan (the Man)" <skidN...@optonline.net.INVALID> fed
this in:

>
>
>Alan Hope wrote:
>> Stan (the Man) goes:
>>
>>> Mmno. It's a fact. Hiked up your skirt and ran screaming for back-up. It
>>> was a hoot.
>>
>> When you start lying, it's time to fold, Stan. It was bad before, but
>> lying won't make it better. Didn't your mother teach you anything?
>
>What a desperate, very ugly, very small man you are, Zenalan. No, I'm
>not lying, as you well know.


Liar.

Scarberry

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Apr 26, 2006, 4:31:34 PM4/26/06
to
Actually, I was mostly joking about the current state of affairs here. It's
easy to be dismayed about the junk when you've got 58,131 messages to try to
clear.

I'm back, and I haven't heard anything about the people from the list. I was
totally incommunicado there for a long time. I -am- writing--got the first
draft of a novel almost complete--and I anticipate more where that came
from.

Good to talk to you.

L
"Frank Raymond Michaels" <frmichaelsMUNG'D...@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:Xns97AD5037B6120fr...@69.28.186.158...
> "Dryad" <ljsca...@yahoo.com> wrote in
> news:FKd2g.762$ww6.181@trnddc05:
>
>> ...ever write about 'writing stuff' anymore?
>
> Yeah.
>
>> I mean, this stuff that's filling my screen with irrelevant crap is,
>> well, irrelevant crap. Someone please tell me the secret password to
>> find my way back to the real misc.writing.
>
> "The real misc.writing" is a kingdom of the mind. No secret password,
> but I've found the judicious application of killfilters (something I'd
> never done in the past) helpful during the current MW administration,
> especially against the swarm of cross-posting spambotty-folk that seem
> to have accumulated round here, and filtering by subject is also pretty
> easy. Cherry-pick from what's left, or start your own threads.
>
> Some of the old guard are still here, some (like you) have come back
> after prolonged absences (John Scalzi poked his head in here recently as
> well, as has John Ashby; whether they stay or not is up to them), some
> (like me) have skip-dash participation depending upon available time and
> interest.
>
> Sorry to hear you've been going through a rough stripe, but welcome
> back.
>
> There are some absent posters whose participation I truly miss, and wish
> they'd at least pop in: Gail (any word about her? her health was rather
> fragile last time I'd seen her post), Harper, Hound, Keltic, Terje,
> Clough, Doug, Harris, AJB, the two Erics (Garcia and Bycer), a whole
> bunch of Carols, a small fleet of Pauls, Lutz (I know where to find him,
> though), Faith, Davida (you made a list!), Kurt, Penrose, Funke, Arleen,
> Deck and Alma, Bil, and others whose names are not listed and will pop
> in to berate me for not listing them.
>
> But fundamentally this place has not changed in that it is what you make
> of it. So what would you like to talk about? --
> FRM (I recently invented the Goldfish Barometer...)


Scarberry

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Apr 26, 2006, 4:35:50 PM4/26/06
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<snip>
"PJ" <autho...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:wJ6dnb749rW...@comcast.com...

>> So what would you like to talk about?
>
> Writing. Or rather, the hazards of being a writer. I want to know if other
> writers get sick of the following conversation:
>
> "What do you do for a living?"
>
> "I'm a writer."
>
> "YOU ARE? REALLY? OH MY GOD, I CAN'T BELIEVE IT, WHAT AN INCREDIBLE
> COINCIDENCE, I'M A WRITER TOO, I JUST WON A PRIZE FROM OUR CHURCH FOR
> ARTICLES I WROTE FOR THE MONTHLY BULLETIN, LET'S GET TOGETHER AND TALK
> ABOUT WRITING SOMETIME, I HAVE SO MANY FASCINATING THINGS YOU NEED TO
> KNOW!!!!"
>
> Ever happen to you?
>
> ~ ~
>
> PJ
>
> http://pjs-place.blogspot.com

*giggle* Yeah, been there, done that, got the t-shirt. Or wait, that's the
NaNoWriMo t-shirt from 2001. Sorry. Got confused there for a moment.

BTW, is NaNoWriMo still a happening thing?


Scarberry

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Apr 26, 2006, 4:46:07 PM4/26/06
to
Actually, as I said in another post (on this same thread), I was mostly
joking. It just didn't come across well in the textual medium, perhaps
because I forgot to use little smiley-faces.

But I do like to talk about the experience of writing, about what people are
working on currently, who's gotten published, who's still hoping, things
like that.

...as well as--of course--the craft of writing, too.


"pandora" <pan...@peak.org> wrote in message
news:ydidnTEbUJJpOdfZ...@scnresearch.com...
>
> "Dryad" <ljsca...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:FKd2g.762$ww6.181@trnddc05...


>> ...ever write about 'writing stuff' anymore?
>>

>> I mean, this stuff that's filling my screen with irrelevant crap is,
>> well,
>> irrelevant crap. Someone please tell me the secret password to find my
>> way
>> back to the real misc.writing.
>>

> What do you want to say/ask/write about? We're here. You just have to
> dig
> a bit deeper.
>
> Marg
>
>
>


Pandora

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Apr 26, 2006, 6:13:08 PM4/26/06
to

"Scarberry" <ljscarber...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:j_Q3g.2515$Ci.1238@trnddc05...

> Actually, as I said in another post (on this same thread), I was mostly
> joking. It just didn't come across well in the textual medium, perhaps
> because I forgot to use little smiley-faces.

I understand, truly.

> But I do like to talk about the experience of writing, about what people
> are working on currently, who's gotten published, who's still hoping,
> things like that.

As do many of us here, now and then.

Marg

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