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C. Dewick

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Jul 20, 2008, 7:39:29 AM7/20/08
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Kevin Martin <kevinr...@notreqdoptusnet.com.au> writes:

>Sylvia Else wrote:

>> If such people fall out and kill themselves, I'd regard that as a plus,
>> particularly if they do it before reproducing.
>>

>Maybe, but the Coroner usually does not take that view, nor insurance
>companies.

No that's certainly true. Certain persons have attempted to sue RailCorp
over being able to get part of their body out of a train for vandalism then
getting struck by a piece of fixed lineside infrastructure, and common-sense
actually prevailed but I would expect that special legislative changes
might be considered to give weight to the implementation of EDR's again so
that there are discouragements written into law for mis-use, and not just a
generic 'X penalty units' fine as it was with the old EDR's.

This would play into what I've been saying about a proper education campaign
strongly focused on passenger safety with emphasis on the individual's
responsibility to not mis-use safety devices designed to afford safe(r)
means of escape to multiple passengers in case of emergency.

Craig.
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Sylvia Else

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Jul 20, 2008, 8:13:42 AM7/20/08
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C. Dewick wrote:
> Kevin Martin <kevinr...@notreqdoptusnet.com.au> writes:
>
>> Sylvia Else wrote:
>
>>> If such people fall out and kill themselves, I'd regard that as a plus,
>>> particularly if they do it before reproducing.
>>>
>
>> Maybe, but the Coroner usually does not take that view, nor insurance
>> companies.
>
> No that's certainly true. Certain persons have attempted to sue RailCorp
> over being able to get part of their body out of a train for vandalism then
> getting struck by a piece of fixed lineside infrastructure, and common-sense
> actually prevailed

Rundle v State Rail Authority of New South Wales

Yes, though on reading the judgements (first instance and appeal) I have
the impression it was a somewhat close run thing. It was not a simple as
saying that you're at your own risk if you stick your body out through a
small upper window for the purpose of damaging the train while it is in
motion. But it should be.

Sylvia.

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