Learning to Drive a Truck
Janet
attends she is looking for an internet site where she could read about
some of the actual maneuvering of the trucks. Has anyone seen one?
Mopar Doctor
Rocky Roads or Supernews Rocky Roads?
"Janet" <heal...@cfaith.com> wrote in message
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> My sister is getting ready to take a class and get a CDL. Before she
> attends she is looking for an internet site where she could read about
> some of the actual maneuvering of the trucks. Has anyone seen one?
I looked all over for a book somewhere that showed how to parallel park. I
could not find one, so I had to ask this group.
There were some good answers, but in reality, it is just one of those "do
it" things, where once you have tried it a few times, it comes easy.
Beware of the Supernews Rocky Roads. He does not like girls.
You can spot him by looking at the properties of his post to see if it says
supernews on the line that starts with "Message-ID:"
Rookie Stupidity Alert
Idiot. Why are you so st00pid?
Rocky Roads or Supernews Rocky Roads?
news:107qpi8...@corp.supernews.com...
kOOk alert is right. I see it says corp.supernews.com above. I guess
Supernews Rocky Roads is still at home wishing for a girlfriend.
The Original Archie Leach
Alex, you are (once again) making him look pretty smart in comparison.
screedmonkey
> You can sit there and watch a video 10,000 times. Get behind the wheel and
> not be able to do the same thing.
> Learning what to do and when is all "on the job training".
> This is where a good school comes in.
>
> Find somewhere a place that sells large toy trucks.
> Use that as a way to better understand how a two part vehicle maneuvers.
this day's lesson, dont take advice from a pedophile....
Cainman
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Hello, Moron? Your bus is leaving. ($1 to Bill Murray).
That post was not made by me. If I want to mock you, I can do it without
using a sockpuppet.
The Original Archie Leach
Regardless. If it sounds like Alex Cain making a lazy-ass uninspired
"IDIOT WHY ARE YOU SO ST00PID" post, then it probably IS Alex Cain
making a lazy-ass uninspired "IDIOT WHY ARE YOU SO ST00PID" post.
Even if you didn't do it, you did most of the work in inspiring such.
Cainman
Who cares? Shut up and go away.
* plonk *
Dave R
questions here and just filter out the idiots.
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Brian Smith
"Dave R" <sword...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> What if she has to drive a truck and trailer? Or doubles? She can ask
> questions here and just filter out the idiots.
That in itself (the filtering out the idiots), is a full time job.
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TurboTrucker
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> Find somewhere a place that sells large toy trucks.
> Use that as a way to better understand how a two part vehicle
> maneuvers.
OMG!!!
What else need be said?
This one takes the cake....
~Tony~
Amy D
Ummm....I've heard old-timers say this a gazillion times, Tony. That's
how I finally learned how to back up a trailer. I had to "see" the
dynamics and responses to actions.....
amy
TurboTrucker
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> Ummm....I've heard old-timers say this a gazillion times, Tony. That's
> how I finally learned how to back up a trailer. I had to "see" the
> dynamics and responses to actions.....
Excuse me, but if you learned to back a trailer by playing with a toy
truck, then I now understand where most of the rest of your thought
processes originate from.
You've heard this a "gazillion times"?
My, Amy, where do you find the time to hear all these "old-timers" offer
such bits of wisdom?
I suppose that you'll next state that you learned about sex from playing
with barbie dolls.....
~Tony~
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Amy D
TurboTrucker wrote:
Well, considering I learned how to back up a trailer -- and I'm talking
a 11,000 + lb of liquid on a ball hitch --- when I was 14..........no, I
take that back....I think I was 15 when I finally learned how to do it.
:) The guy at the fertilizer store used to just say "Women drivers, no
survivors" and back it up for me after spending 20 minutes a day trying
to teach me when I was 14. :) He called my daddy and they decided to
show me with toy trucks how my actions with the truck made the trailer
respond. Once I could "see" it it was a piece of cake. I've heard
old-timers tell that to newbies many, many times. It's common sense.
amy
amy
Amy D
TurboTrucker wrote:
Well, considering I learned how to back up a trailer -- and I'm talking
a 11,000 + lb of liquid on a ball hitch --- when I was 14..........no, I
take that back....I think I was 15 when I finally learned how to do it.
:) The guy at the fertilizer store used to just say "Women drivers, no
survivors" and back it up for me after spending 20 minutes a day trying
to teach me when I was 14. :) He called my daddy and they decided to
show me with toy trucks how my actions with the truck made the trailer
respond. Once I could "see" it it was a piece of cake. I've heard
old-timers tell that to newbies many, many times. It's common sense.
Guess I up in the old days when fathers taught the children to drive
their truck. One of the earliest lessons was getting out the toy trucks.
amy
TurboTrucker
> Well, considering I learned how to back up a trailer -- and I'm
> talking a 11,000 + lb of liquid on a ball hitch --- when I was
> 14..........no, I take that back....I think I was 15 when I finally
> learned how to do it.
>:) The guy at the fertilizer store used to just say "Women drivers,
>:no
> survivors" and back it up for me after spending 20 minutes a day
> trying to teach me when I was 14. :) He called my daddy and they
> decided to show me with toy trucks how my actions with the truck made
> the trailer respond. Once I could "see" it it was a piece of cake.
> I've heard old-timers tell that to newbies many, many times. It's
> common sense.
Okay Amy....that's YOUR story and your sticking to it....
If and when I see the "old timer's" bring out the Tonka trucks in the
truckstop parking lots for a backing demonstration exercise, or when I pass
a CDL mill and actually see this phenomenon, I will certainly wonder where
I was during the "gazillion times" that it was passed on by our
elders....and I failed to hear it.
If I ever find the need to explain backing of a tractor-trailer to a five
year old, the "toy truck method" will certainly be appropriate, but I think
that most adult people would be a bit insulted to have to be dumbed down to
the level of a child to have the concept explained to them...
Then again, as you and Bullis have shown....maybe not....my expectations
might be a bit too high for some.
~Tony~
Moving Vision
Don't worry Amy. You are quite correct in that a toy semi or draw bar
can indeed be helpful to raw beginners. To hear how some drivers go on
about, rookies, old timers and such, you'd think driving a truck was
quantum physics, rocket science, brain surgery etc.
Some of us learned with just a few hours instruction, including roping,
sheeting and changing tyres, then went on to drive hundreds of thousands
of miles of all kinds. Heck I even had to do my own fork lift and crane
operating. The driving and the manoeuvring is a piece of piss, as is,
for the most part, the whole job, apart from the occasional hard labour,
the tedium and the fatigue. What makes some driving jobs more
interesting and demanding than what British truckers call 'Wally Jobs',
is crossing cultural and geographical borders, loading and transporting
unusual cargoes and running your own business.
Whilst many of us are truly the 'salt of the earth', few of us will be
called upon for our dazzling genius.
--
John Lubran
Hdlinnebur
Some people might need the perspective provided by a toy truck combination that
can't be had while inside the cab of an actual truck. The use of a toy truck
provides a larger picture of what's taking place.
Toy truck demonstrations could be useful in situations where individuals
haven't had past experience in pulling small trailers, boats or farm machinery.
TurboTrucker
news:20040425123457...@mb-m03.aol.com:
> Some people might need the perspective provided by a toy truck
> combination that can't be had while inside the cab of an actual truck.
> The use of a toy truck provides a larger picture of what's taking
> place.
>
> Toy truck demonstrations could be useful in situations where
> individuals haven't had past experience in pulling small trailers,
> boats or farm machinery.
Look...I've trained my share of drivers, and I have not found that to
explain the concept of backing a trailer, that it was necessary to use
models to demonstrate the "dynamics" (not your term..it was mentioned
previously).
All one has to do is to simply explain that you turn the steering wheel
opposite of the way you want the trailer to go.
You start by lining up a truck and trailer and have them back it straight
in reverse telling them to keep it straight. If a dock is available, so
much the better. You gradually increase the difficulty of the backs that
need to be made right up to the famous 90 degree between two truck
scenario.
~Tony~
Mark R Mayfield
news:Xns94D686BD181...@216.77.188.18:
You're teaching the hard way. I find it easiest to tell the student
to grab the bottom of the wheel, and push the wheel the direction you
want the trailer to go. You can almost here the clicks going off in
their heads.
TurboTrucker
news:Xns94D67E74D...@24.93.43.119:
> You're teaching the hard way. I find it easiest to tell the student
> to grab the bottom of the wheel, and push the wheel the direction you
> want the trailer to go. You can almost here the clicks going off in
> their heads.
Very good....I'll remember that one....
~Tony~
Amy D
Sorry, I grew up when daddies taught their kids to drive their trucks
and that was one of the first lessons......
In this house daddy preaches, "You will NEVER drive a truck....." :)
amy
kc0iv
"TurboTrucker" <Dr...@nospam.net> wrote in message
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> hdlin...@aol.comhas (Hdlinnebur) wrote in
> news:20040425123457...@mb-m03.aol.com:
>
> > Some people might need the perspective provided by a toy truck
> > combination that can't be had while inside the cab of an actual truck.
> > The use of a toy truck provides a larger picture of what's taking
> > place.
> >
> > Toy truck demonstrations could be useful in situations where
> > individuals haven't had past experience in pulling small trailers,
> > boats or farm machinery.
>
> Look...I've trained my share of drivers, and I have not found that to
> explain the concept of backing a trailer, that it was necessary to use
> models to demonstrate the "dynamics" (not your term..it was mentioned
> previously).
>
Tony,
While I never needed a toy to see what happens when backing a truck I can
see where it might have an advantage. Just think for a moment about the
training of a fighter pilot. Toy planes have been used from the very
beginning.
I've thought for some time about getting a radio control 18 wheeler to demo
truck driving. I think it would be a great first step for new students.
BTW another poster spoke about using the bottom of the wheel. I used this
with my wife. She just couldn't get the idea until I used this approach.
Then it clicked. In fact just the other day she ask me -- Why I don't use
the bottom of the wheel.
Leon
Hdlinnebur
Hdlinnebur
I have two crashed RC aircraft in my hobby room. My having an RC truck would be
much safer for the spectators. But DAMN !! are they expensive.
snuffy751
DrNo wrote:
>hdlin...@aol.comhas (Hdlinnebur) wrote in
>news:20040425123457...@mb-m03.aol.com:
>
>> Some people might need the perspective provided by a toy truck
>> combination that can't be had while inside the cab of an actual
>> truck. The use of a toy truck provides a larger picture of what's
>> taking place.
>>
>> Toy truck demonstrations could be useful in situations where
>> individuals haven't had past experience in pulling small trailers,
>> boats or farm machinery.
>
>Look...I've trained my share of drivers,
which might explain the current sad state of backing proficiency
demonstrated at many of todays truckstops.
>and I have not found that to explain the concept of backing a trailer,
>that it was necessary to use models to demonstrate the "dynamics" (not
>your term..it was mentioned previously).
>
>All one has to do is to simply explain that you turn the steering wheel
>opposite of the way you want the trailer to go.
And which part of the trailer is that, are you talking about the front
part of the trailer? the rear part? the part you see in your mirror?,
the part you see when you look out the window? For a newbie, nothing's
simple, and the more tools you have to explain what he'she is trying to
accomplish the better the probability they will understand the basic
priciples.
>
>You start by lining up a truck and trailer and have them back it
>straight in reverse telling them to keep it straight.
And if they cant keep it straight when they back up? then what. And how
can they tell you what they are doing wrong when they dont even know
what they are doing, or the dynamics of what happens when they turn the
wheel in a certain direction.
>If a dock is available, so much the better. You gradually increase the
>difficulty of the backs that need to be made right up to the famous 90
>degree between two truck scenario.
>
>~Tony~
>
The point that she is making is that for some people, they need to see
what happens from a perspective OUTSIDE of the truck, and using that
perspective will help them to understand how moving the front wheel
axles on one end of this huge, bendable vehicle, will cause the center
of the rig to respond, and thus cause the back of the rig to respond.
Just because you dont use a method does NOT mean there is no merit in
the method.
Seems to me, if training were more about actually imparting knowledge,
rather than just teaching a monkey-see,monkey-do method, then any good
instructor would be not too proud to use any tool at his/her
disposal.(including the old Matchbox models)
Snuffy
TurboTrucker
I previously wrote:
>>Look...I've trained my share of drivers,
snuffy751's pathetic response:
> which might explain the current sad state of backing proficiency
> demonstrated at many of todays truckstops.
You're certainly entitled to your opinion, and I'm not about to do a thing
to alter it, as I have nothing to prove to a soul. I am a shining example
and represent this industry in positive terms at all times when I am doing
my job, and I have passed on what I know and do to others who are receptive
to achieving the same goals.
More of my previous words:
>>All one has to do is to simply explain that you turn the steering wheel
>>opposite of the way you want the trailer to go.
And more of snuffy 751's silly retorts:
> And which part of the trailer is that, are you talking about the front
> part of the trailer? the rear part? the part you see in your mirror?,
> the part you see when you look out the window?
Pardon me. I had no idea that some people out here aim the front of the
trailer rearward towards the dock. I now see why you find a simple concept
so hard to understand.
> For a newbie, nothing's
> simple, and the more tools you have to explain what he'she is trying to
> accomplish the better the probability they will understand the basic
> priciples.
Then by all means, feel free to trot out a toy truck and roll it back and
forth to your heart's content. Don't forget to "toot" the horn and emulate
the sound of the air brakes.
My opinion on this remains the same. I treat adults like adults, and I will
leave the toy trucks on the store shelves for the children.
Me again:
>>You start by lining up a truck and trailer and have them back it
>>straight in reverse telling them to keep it straight.
And snuffy 751 again:
> And if they cant keep it straight when they back up? then what. And how
> can they tell you what they are doing wrong when they dont even know
> what they are doing, or the dynamics of what happens when they turn the
> wheel in a certain direction.
Oh...they will not immediately discover this difficult to see phenomenon in
the mirrors of the truck? Obviously, if the trailer is not going the way it
is supposed to be, it is easy enough to figure out that by turning the
wheel the OTHER way....that it just might work better.....ya' think?
> The point that she is making is that for some people, they need to see
> what happens from a perspective OUTSIDE of the truck, and using that
> perspective will help them to understand how moving the front wheel
> axles on one end of this huge, bendable vehicle, will cause the center
> of the rig to respond, and thus cause the back of the rig to respond.
Why are you explaining this to me? I am not the person who needed a toy
truck to figure out something rather simple to grasp within a relatively
few minutes behind the wheel.
> Just because you dont use a method does NOT mean there is no merit in
> the method.
There's merit to it, and I already stated when that was. When I need to
explain the dynamics of a tractor and trailer to a five year old, it's
completely acceptable to tug on a Tonka.
Short of that....
> Seems to me, if training were more about actually imparting knowledge,
> rather than just teaching a monkey-see,monkey-do method, then any good
> instructor would be not too proud to use any tool at his/her
> disposal.(including the old Matchbox models)
Well....since I observe childish behavior almost daily on the part of far
too many people who are involved in this industry in many facets of doing
their jobs, and who at the same time seem to be incapable of doing no less
than an "elementary" job out here, I'm hardly surprised at your taking the
opportunity to attempt to illustrate that a toy truck is the best way to
communicate such a simple concept.
Me?...I try to think the best of someone, until they give me reason to do
otherwise. This includes relating to adults....as adults.
~Tony~
snuffy751
DrNo wrote:
>"snuffy751" <mccr...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>news:408dea8e$1...@news.vic.com:
>
>I previously wrote:
>>>Look...I've trained my share of drivers,
>
>snuffy751's pathetic response:
>> which might explain the current sad state of backing proficiency
>> demonstrated at many of todays truckstops.
>
>You're certainly entitled to your opinion, and I'm not about to do a
>thing to alter it, as I have nothing to prove to a soul. I am a shining
>example and represent this industry in positive terms at all times when
>I am doing my job, and I have passed on what I know and do to others
>who are receptive to achieving the same goals.
>
>More of my previous words:
>>>All one has to do is to simply explain that you turn the steering
>>>wheel opposite of the way you want the trailer to go.
>
>And more of snuffy 751's silly retorts:
>> And which part of the trailer is that, are you talking about the
>> front part of the trailer? the rear part? the part you see in your
>> mirror?, the part you see when you look out the window?
>
>Pardon me. I had no idea that some people out here aim the front of the
>trailer rearward towards the dock. I now see why you find a simple
>concept so hard to understand.
>
When you are learning anything, be it backing up a semi rig, or cooking
in a burton stove, or any of the other many things a driver must know,
you have to be able to answer ALL the questions, even those coming from
someone who's thinking is very different, or doesnt know enough to ask
the right questions.
To expect a new-bie to understand the concepts you have learned over the
years, from the same vantage point as you now understand them limits the
methods you can use to get your point across.
>> For a newbie, nothing's simple, and the more tools you have to
>> explain what he'she is trying to accomplish the better the
>> probability they will understand the basic priciples.
>
>Then by all means, feel free to trot out a toy truck and roll it back
>and forth to your heart's content. Don't forget to "toot" the horn and
>emulate the sound of the air brakes.
>
If thats what you think this is about, then I can see why you are so
upset. This is not about little boys toys. Its about tools. Its about
using different methods to explain a point to someone who has not the
familiarity, or advantage of years of experince to draw on for his/her
understanding.
>My opinion on this remains the same. I treat adults like adults, and I
>will leave the toy trucks on the store shelves for the children.
>
Gee I'm sorry if your maturity feels threatened by using this method.
Personally, I've used Matchbox trucks, Playing cards, Cassette tapes,
and many other handy toolds to explain to trainees the dynamics of why
you gotta turn the wheel the "wrong" way to get the trailer to track the
"right" way. Didnt bother me a bit, and made it easier to teach backing
in the yard once we had a common vocabulary from which to draw.
>Me again:
>>>You start by lining up a truck and trailer and have them back it
>>>straight in reverse telling them to keep it straight.
>
>And snuffy 751 again:
>> And if they cant keep it straight when they back up? then what. And
>> how can they tell you what they are doing wrong when they dont even
>> know what they are doing, or the dynamics of what happens when they
>> turn the wheel in a certain direction.
>
>Oh...they will not immediately discover this difficult to see
>phenomenon in the mirrors of the truck?
Of course they do. BUT knowing what to do about it? NOt if they cant put
it onto words, which means they gotta understand whats happening. And
THAT is where the models, showing a perspective from outside the truck
comes in handy.
>Obviously, if the trailer is not >going the way it is supposed to be,
>it is easy enough to figure out that by turning the wheel the OTHER
>way....that it just might work better.....ya' think?
>
>> The point that she is making is that for some people, they need to
>> see what happens from a perspective OUTSIDE of the truck, and using
>> that perspective will help them to understand how moving the front
>> wheel axles on one end of this huge, bendable vehicle, will cause the
>> center of the rig to respond, and thus cause the back of the rig to
>> respond.
>
>Why are you explaining this to me? I am not the person who needed a toy
>truck to figure out something rather simple to grasp within a
>relatively few minutes behind the wheel.
>
>> Just because you dont use a method does NOT mean there is no merit in
>> the method.
>
>There's merit to it, and I already stated when that was. When I need to
>explain the dynamics of a tractor and trailer to a five year old, it's
>completely acceptable to tug on a Tonka.
>
>Short of that....
Then obviously the trainees, in your world would be "untrainable" (after
all, we cant have "five year olds" driving trucks now, can we?) So,
send'em to me. I'll train em to drive. Then we can work on learning to
be a truck driver (Thats the real task)
>
>> Seems to me, if training were more about actually imparting
>> knowledge, rather than just teaching a monkey-see,monkey-do method,
>> then any good instructor would be not too proud to use any tool at
>> his/her disposal.(including the old Matchbox models)
>
>Well....since I observe childish behavior almost daily on the part of
>far too many people who are involved in this industry in many facets of
>doing their jobs, and who at the same time seem to be incapable of
>doing no less than an "elementary" job out here, I'm hardly surprised
>at your taking the opportunity to attempt to illustrate that a toy
>truck is the best way to communicate such a simple concept.
Actually, Its just another way to do it. One that I, for one, am not too
proud and pig-headed to use if it helps my student understand the
priciples he/she needs to learn to back up without hitting something.
>
>Me?...I try to think the best of someone, until they give me reason to
>do otherwise. This includes relating to adults....as adults.
>
Me, I believe in using anything I can to train. Be it a toy truck, or an
empty 2 liter bottle of soda, (to break the habit of deep clutching), or
a formal prac-fac based system of training (to ensure ALL skills needed
are covered and understood)
>~Tony~
>
Snuffy All cats are not gray at night. (infinite variety!) LL
Don Poaps
some sense this time.
"Amy D" <amy...@joimail.com> wrote in message
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TurboTrucker
> Gee I'm sorry if your maturity feels threatened by using this method.
My "maturity" is not in the least threatened by this method....
I find it completely condescending, however to use a toy truck to
illustrate a simple concept to an adult.
But...enough....this one needs to die. It's a waste to go on...as we each
have our own opinion...and y'all are in agreement with Bullis....
~Tony~
realitytrucker
Instructors at the driving school I went to used toy trucks in class
before we ever went to the trucks. It seemed to help some people. I
already understood the dynamics of backing combination vehicles so I
napped through that part of class. :)
Amy D
Fascinating. Is that how you view it? It's not "y'all are in agreement
with Bullis"....rather YOU are in disagreement with many who have
"learned" or "taught" <I prefer ya'll> .......your little opinion
doesn't matter. Too bad you threw away many drivers who could have been
great drivers had they had a little tool you are too macho to use....oh
yeah...you would have actually had to TRAIN anyone first....
amy
ｽ.0
"Amy D" <amy...@joimail.com> wrote in message
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> Too bad you threw away many drivers who could have been
> great drivers had they had a little tool you are too macho to use....oh
> yeah...you would have actually had to TRAIN anyone first....
>
>
> amy
>
Why do you even post on this NG Amy? You are not a truck driver.
0
"ｽ.0" <ｽ@0.0> wrote in message news:109bcuq...@corp.supernews.com...
No, she is a lot brighter than most of them. She must be here just to help
the Idiots like Dave R. out.
0
"ｽ.0" <ｽ@0.0> wrote in message news:109bcuq...@corp.supernews.com...
>
BTW I know who you are. You are that poster that doesn't like girls.
Amy D
˝.0 wrote:
And you would be WHAT, exactly??
amy
ｽ.0
> >
> And you would be WHAT, exactly??
>
> amy
>
I can tell you what I am not.
I am not any of the following:
A drivers wife
A nagging drivers wife
A nagging, fat drivers wife
A nagging, fat, hormonally challenged drivers wife
A nagging, fat, hormonally challenged, psychotic drivers wife
A nagging, fat, hormonally challenged, psychotic, prime worshiping wife
and on
and on
and on
shhhheeeiiitttt.... I am not even the type of person who would catch their
spouses truck on fire in hopes of getting him to spend more time at home.
Amy D
˝.0 wrote:
In other words you are an idiot -- join Richard and groupies in my
killfile. See ya.
amy
TurboTrucker
> Fascinating. Is that how you view it? It's not "y'all are in
> agreement with Bullis"....rather YOU are in disagreement with many who
> have "learned" or "taught" <I prefer ya'll>
Despite your assessment, it is a fact that he brought it up. I found it
laughable, and you happened to jump right in and agree with him. So...I
suppose that it is more than fair for me to make my own comment along that
line. You agreed completely with the Pedo. Would you care for some
antiseptic hand wash?
> your little opinion doesn't matter.
When have I ever offered that it did? I'm certainly entitled to offer any
opinion I desire, just as you have done.
So what if I happen to be on the off-side of this particular discussion?
I'm hardly distressed about it. It's not the first time that I have found
myself in disagreement on an issue of discussion.
> Too bad you threw away many drivers
> who could have been great drivers had they had a little tool you are too
> macho to use....oh yeah...you would have actually had to TRAIN anyone
> first....
Too bad that you don't have any idea what you're talking about. And too bad
that you don't realize that you simply have offered your own opinion, and
it's worth just as much to me, as mine is....to you.
Now..please....go out in your living room and play with the tot's trucks,
and train a future trucker to serve America in the next generation, who
will most likely to do this between the whines and cries of abuse and
disrespect, all in the hope that your legacy will go on....
I have every reason to think that under your guidance, their future is
going to be very limited, unless they tire and desire to "be all that they
can be"....Get it?
~Tony~
TurboTrucker
> shhhheeeiiitttt.... I am not even the type of person who would catch
> their spouses truck on fire in hopes of getting him to spend more time
> at home.
Yikes.....
~Tony~
Amy D
TurboTrucker wrote:
LMAO! Daddy stresses they will NOT drive a truck -- that is my job --
make sure they DON'T. :)
Yeah...get it.....they won't "be all that they can be" under Bush's
reign.....
amy
realitytrucker
Who cares? She's married to one and she's more than welcome to post
here. She's much more welcome than some immature loser that posts
crap like the above.