I revved my motor to keep it running, then I got on the CB and asked
where the nearest place to get fuel was.
I ended up getting 50 gallons of Bio-Diesel, or maybe I should call it
Soy-Diesel. More on this at: http://ilsoy.org/
After that, I drove to the next truck stop and filled my tanks the rest
of the way with Diesel.
After making a phone call and hearing someone else claimed better
mileage, I saw it myself.
I will run some more test on it, but from my first 50 gallons it looks
like this truck can finally get better than 6 mpg.
What type of engine do you have?I know the Cummins ISL and ISC engines
don't like Bio.
I always thought it was about the octane rating. I've never used bio
diesel, but I would, if it were my choice. Willie Nelson claims it is
superior to regular diesel.
From the BioDieselNow.com website:
"Biodiesel is a vegetable oil-based fuel that runs in
*unmodified diesel* engines - cars, buses, trucks, construction
equipment, boats, generators, and oil home heating units. It's usually
made from soy or canola oil, and can also be made from recycled fryer
oil (yes, from McDonalds or your local Chinese restaurant). You can
blend it with regular diesel or run 100% biodiesel."
Besides, there's something going on that the American Press isn't
telling us about. In June, Russia is starting an oil market based on
Russian money; soon after, Iran opens another that'll be based on the
Euro.
Here's more info on this:
Vladimir Putin and the rise of the petro-ruble *
*By Mike Whitney
05/22/06 "**Information Clearing House*
<http://informationclearinghouse.info/>*" *-- -- "If one day the world's
largest oil producers demanded euros for their barrels, it would be the
financial equivalent of a nuclear strike". Bill O' Grady, A.G. Edwards
On May 10, Russian President Vladimir Putin ignited a firestorm that is
bound to sweep across the global economy. In his* * */ State of the
Nation speech to parliament,/*
<http://en.rian.ru/russia/20060510/47932818.html>, he announced that
Russia was planning to make the ruble "internationally convertible" so
that it could be used in oil and natural gas transactions. Presently,
oil is denominated exclusively in dollars and sold through the New York
Mercantile Exchange (NYMX) or the London Petroleum Exchange (LPE) both
owned by American investors. If Russia proceeds with its plan, the ruble
will go nose to nose with the dollar on the open market sending several
billions of surplus greenbacks back to the United States. This could
potentially send the American economy into freefall; triggering a deep
recession and an extended period of hyper-inflation.
"The ruble must become a more widespread means of international
transactions," Putin said. "To this end, we need to open a stock
exchange in Russia to trade in oil, gas, and other goods to be paid for
in rubles."
Currently, the central banks around the world carry large stockpiles of
dollars to use in their purchases of oil. This gives the US a virtual
monopoly on oil transactions. It also forces reluctant nations to
continue using the dollar even though it is currently underwritten by
$8.4 trillion national debt.
Putin's plan is similar to that of Iran, which announced that it would
open an oil-bourse (oil exchange) on Kish Island in two months. The
bourse would allow oil transactions to be made in petro-euros, thus
discarding the dollar. The Bush administration's belligerence has
intensified considerably since Iran made its intentions clear. In fact,
just yesterday, Secretary of State Condi Rice said that "security
guarantees were not on the table" regardless of any Iranian commitment
to stop enriching uranium. In other words, Washington will not provide
Iran a "non-aggression pact" whether it follows UN Security Council
guidelines or not.
Surely, this is a sign that Uncle Sam is on a fast-track to war.
The United States must protect its dollar-monopoly in the oil trade or
it will lose the advantage of being the world's "reserve currency". As
the reserve currency, the US can maintain its towering $8.4 trillion
national debt and $800 billion trade deficit without fear of soaring
interest rates or hyper-inflation. Trillions of greenbacks are
constantly circulating in oil transactions just as hundreds of billions
are stockpiled in foreign banks. In effect, the Federal Reserve is
issuing bad checks with every dollar printed on the assumption that they
will never reach the bank for collection. So far, they've been right,
and as the price of oil continues to skyrocket, the Fed just keeps
cheerily printing more worthless paper sending it to the 4 corners of
the earth. Regrettably, if Russia or Iran goes ahead with their
conversion plan, then the bad checks will flood back to their source and
precipitate a meltdown.
America's economic supremacy depends entirely on its ability to compel
nations to make their energy acquisitions in greenbacks. If the flaccid
dollar is not linked to the world's most vital resource, then banks will
dump it overnight. This extortion-racket is the system we are defending
in Iraq, not "democracy". It is a huckster's scam designed to perpetuate
American debt by forcing worthless currency on the developing world.
In a recent article by Dave Kimble, "Collapse of the petrodollar
looming", the author provides the details of Russia's importance to the
world oil market.
"Russia's oil exports represent 15.2% of the world's export trade in
oil, making it a much more significant player than Iran, with 5.8% of
export volumes. Russia also produces 25.8% of the world's gas exports,
while Iran is still only entering this market as an exporter…. Venezuela
has 5.4% of the export market."
Obviously, it is not in Russia's interest to trade with its European
partners in dollars any more than it would be for the US to trade with
Canada in rubles. Putin can strengthen the Russian economy and improve
Russia's prestige in the world as an energy superpower by transitioning
to rubles. But, will Washington allow him to succeed?
A growing number of nations are now focusing on the empire's Achilles'
heel, the dollar. Venezuela, Russia, Norway and Iran are all threatening
to move away from the greenback. Is this a spontaneous uprising or is it
a new type of asymmetrical warfare?
Whatever it is, Washington is bound to be reeling from the affects.
After all, war maybe possible with Iran or Venezuela, but what about
Russia? Would Bush be stupid enough to risk nuclear Armageddon to
protect the drooping dollar?
The administration is exploring
--
I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and
causes me to tremble for the safety of my country. . . . Corporations
have been enthroned, an era of corruption in high places will follow,
and the money-power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by
working upon the prejudices of the people until the wealth is aggregated
in a few hands and the Republic is destroyed.
--Abraham Lincoln
>
> I always thought it was about the octane rating. I've never used bio
> diesel, but I would, if it were my choice. Willie Nelson claims it is
> superior to regular diesel.
>
WTF does Willie Nelson know.LMAO.Also octane is in gasoline.Cetane is
in Diesel.Anywho,*Bio* could mean anything from corn to fish
oil.There's along way to go before the engine manufactures and the fuel
Company's( Bio to Fuel/ ratios) work all the bugs out of it.Now if the
rest of the world was only as smart as Brazil.
Cummins M14. I always get around 6 mpg. It seems to be better than that
now with some bio-diesel in the tanks. I'll run some more test to see for
sure.
I also talked with someone else today about it.. He says, they have been
using it for 2 years and he thinks without an additive, it will gel up in 30
degree weather.
Our Bio that we were using in our fleet was a fish oil mix of 20% to
80%diesel.The fuel will eventually remove Varnish from inside of the
fuel tank and plug filters.Also gel up in temperatures just below or
above freezing.We pulled the plug on Bio right now on our fleet of 250
buses but had no problems running it in Detroit's.
Willie Nelson has made himself an expert on the subject: he is putting
his money where his mouth is too. Okay, octane, cetane, what the fuck
are those but words--you damn well knew what I meant.
Brazil has converted to the bio-stuff. That is what some smart people
are attempting to do here...so, why are you so anti?
The bio-diesel people are not hiding their negatives.
"Primarily that it's not readily available in much of the nation, YET
(click here for a map of locations). Consumption jumped from 500,000
gallons in 2000 to 15 million gallons in 2001, so hopefully availability
will change soon. 2) Biodiesel will clean your injectors and fuel lines.
If you have an old diesel vehicle, there's a chance that your first tank
or two of BD could free up all the accumulated crud and clog your fuel
filter. 3) It has a higher gel point. B100 (100% biodiesel) gets slushy
a little under 32°F. But B20 (20% biodiesel, 80% regular diesel - more
commonly available than B100) has a gel point of -15°F. Like regular
diesel, the gel point can be lowered further with additives such as
kerosene (blended into winter diesel in cold-weather areas). 4) Old
vehicles (older than mid-90s) might require upgrades of fuel lines (a
cheap, easy upgrade), as BD can eat through certain types of rubber.
Almost all new vehicles should have no problem with BD. 5) Finally, the
one emission that goes up with biodiesel is NOx. NOx contributes to
smog. We feel that a slight increase (up to 15%) in NOx is greatly
offset by the reduction in all other emissions and the major reduction
in greenhouse gasses.
What these spammers(I'm finally getting over 6MPG) fail to tell about
Bio-Diesel is its is a lower energy fuel. The more veggie oil the less
BTU's, albeit not by much. Any fuel mileage increase is in all probability
from the "placebo effect". As you have mentioned it doesn't have all the
bugs worked out. That's evidenced by my home state putting a moritorium on
mandatory usage this past winter. A lot of trucks were having problems with
B2 soydiesel that MN made mandatory. Thats only 2% soyoil. I can about
imagine what a higher mixture would do. I think the mandatory mix of soyoil
was mainly a political ploy in farm heavy state..
--
Diplomacy is the art of saying "Nice doggie" until you can find a rock.
Will Rogers
>
>
> Willie Nelson has made himself an expert on the subject: he is putting
> his money where his mouth is too. Okay, octane, cetane, what the fuck
> are those but words--you damn well knew what I meant.
Yah good for Willie~
How did i know what you meant.I don't know you.
> Brazil has converted to the bio-stuff. That is what some smart people
> are attempting to do here...so, why are you so anti?
Brazil went alternative after the 70's Oil Crisis.I'm just saying the
rest of the World is slow to catch up and i'm not being *Anti* about
anything.
> The bio-diesel people are not hiding their negatives.
>
> "Primarily that it's not readily available in much of the nation, YET
> (click here for a map of locations). Consumption jumped from 500,000
> gallons in 2000 to 15 million gallons in 2001, so hopefully availability
> will change soon. 2) Biodiesel will clean your injectors and fuel lines.
> If you have an old diesel vehicle, there's a chance that your first tank
> or two of BD could free up all the accumulated crud and clog your fuel
> filter. 3) It has a higher gel point. B100 (100% biodiesel) gets slushy
> a little under 32°F. But B20 (20% biodiesel, 80% regular diesel - more
> commonly available than B100) has a gel point of -15°F. Like regular
> diesel, the gel point can be lowered further with additives such as
> kerosene (blended into winter diesel in cold-weather areas). 4) Old
> vehicles (older than mid-90s) might require upgrades of fuel lines (a
> cheap, easy upgrade), as BD can eat through certain types of rubber.
> Almost all new vehicles should have no problem with BD. 5) Finally, the
> one emission that goes up with biodiesel is NOx. NOx contributes to
> smog. We feel that a slight increase (up to 15%) in NOx is greatly
> offset by the reduction in all other emissions and the major reduction
> in greenhouse gasses.
There's still a ways to go.Check out this link to an alternative energy
source.
http://www.cnn.com/video/tech/2006/05/23/patrick.fl.h2o.car.wtvt/content.html
The person I met that has been running Bio-Diesel for two years says the
"veggie oil" makes it lubricate better.
I find it hard to believe the mileage increase myself, but I should be on
'E' right now and I am not. I will run some more test on that before the
weather starts getting cold again.
Yes, I know what Minnesota did with Bio-Diesel. I can't find the post right
now, but I doubt if I'll be using it in cold weather unless my company is
willing to pay for the additives needed.
JD
Mopar Doctor
IMO,They have to design an *engine* for Bio Diesel,not design a Bio
Diesel for all available Engines, because at this point in time,it's
not going to work.:-)
EPA's funtion is to mandate environmental laws and could care less on how
much we are addicted to oil. That's someone elses problem.
Global warming is a fact. When the ocean has risen to the steps of the
White House it'll be a little late to act then. We have an energy
problem. But we also have a growing weather problem. Controlling
pollution is a must, for the future of all of us.
Oh boy, I just love it when a truck driver thinks he can solve all the
problems of the world. :)
I really wouldn't worry too much about what is going to happen after the
year 2011, I doubt if we could have stopped the inevitable even if we tried.
Besides, who would have believed there was a problem back in 1967 with
greenhouse gases and such? Certainly not me.
Bio-Diesel Fan with an M14
To make a long story short, if the TA in Walcott, IA ever sold Bio-Diesel, I
would probably know about it before anyone on this newsgroup.
You might have seen them selling Diesel #1 instead.
Me, I'm still testing Bio-Diesel myself, but it looks good so far.
Yeah, what do you think the WN stands for in this website on Bio-Diesel?
http://www.wnbiodiesel.com
You guessed it. Willie Nelson.
BTW, I've been reading more about Bio_Diesel today at:
http://www.biotrucker.com/testimonials
and someone else thought it was quieter too.
I never said they were selling bio diesel 100%, I said it was some sort
of blend rated to 0 degrees F. Thus the warnings about it. If it had
been diesel #1 the 0 degree warnings wouldn't have been there. Believe
me, I know the difference.
JD
OK, I'll keep asking around on this end.
I know if that TA ever had "Bio-Diesel" they wouldn't get it from a local
terminal, since they don't have any "Bio-Diesel", they would have to get it
from a Soy plant and then mix it right in the tank.
Could it have been Bio-20?
A lot of places that are selling Bio-Diesel are only selling 11% and not
B20, which is 20%. Don't ask me why, I haven't asked them yet myself, but I
think it has something to do with where it starts to gel.
BTW, my first test with a tank of Bio-Diesel is complete but I have to run
some more before I swear by it.
It was a "Winterized blend of #1 diesel" that the TA at Walcott sold last
winter.
I've talked to numerous people about it, including one of the cashiers at
that TA. She stated very plainly, they have never sold Bio-Diesel.
I just happened to meet someone today that fills up out there and drops fuel
out there, and if anyone would know, he would know. He was the one that
called it a "Winterized Blend of #1."
Besides, of all the places I know selling Bio Diesel, once they start
selling Bio Diesel, they do not stop selling it.
Have a good one.